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post #4801 of 12031 (permalink) Old 12-02-2012, 10:04 AM Thread Starter
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I've got two things to bring up:

First is that I think some sort of two-step rev limiter would be an awesome next feature. It could be controlled by the clutch switch (not sure if that signal goes to the ECU) or perhaps the limiter would simply be active while the bike is not "in gear". "In gear" being defined as engaged in a gear with no/minimal clutch slip. I guess I'd like to see what Flashtune could come up with, but I would be against any sort of button or switch that would require additional use of the hands.

Secondly, I think we really need to agree on a terminology regarding maps. Because currently, and as Flashtune defines it, a "map" contains "maps" and that is somewhat confusing. There is a YCCT map, idle map, fuel maps, quickshifter maps and ignition maps all within what Flashtune calls a map. I think we need to refer to the "Flashtune map" as an ECU image or something like that. All other maps must be referred to as their type, for example "ignition map" or "TPS vs RPM (Alpha-N) fuel map". Perhaps we should try to get Flashtune to change the terminology in their software.

Tad, you seem to be in contact with the Flashtune guys pretty frequently. Perhaps you can be an "ambassador" for us.
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does anyone know how we disable the o2 sensor now that the crossover point is not adjustable on the newer updates

and is there anyway to disable the velocity stacks if you put fixed stacks on??

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post #4803 of 12031 (permalink) Old 12-02-2012, 01:02 PM
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This POS won't flash my ECU anymore. I updated to the newest version and it will get to 100% of the ETV flash but fails to connect when it attempts to write the FI side. Anyone else experience this?

Update: I tried flashing it with their new "flash etv only" "flash fi only" and it worked. Go figure.

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Sorry guys I have been on travel this week, so I have been a little slower to respond.

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I've got two things to bring up:

First is that I think some sort of two-step rev limiter would be an awesome next feature. It could be controlled by the clutch switch (not sure if that signal goes to the ECU) or perhaps the limiter would simply be active while the bike is not "in gear". "In gear" being defined as engaged in a gear with no/minimal clutch slip. I guess I'd like to see what Flashtune could come up with, but I would be against any sort of button or switch that would require additional use of the hands.

Secondly, I think we really need to agree on a terminology regarding maps. Because currently, and as Flashtune defines it, a "map" contains "maps" and that is somewhat confusing. There is a YCCT map, idle map, fuel maps, quickshifter maps and ignition maps all within what Flashtune calls a map. I think we need to refer to the "Flashtune map" as an ECU image or something like that. All other maps must be referred to as their type, for example "ignition map" or "TPS vs RPM (Alpha-N) fuel map". Perhaps we should try to get Flashtune to change the terminology in their software.

Tad, you seem to be in contact with the Flashtune guys pretty frequently. Perhaps you can be an "ambassador" for us.
First point, send them an email, I think this thread has fallen off their radar for some reason. I will also request the feature. We can take the squeaky wheel approach. At some level the same goes for the second. I will add that terminaology to the FAQ (give me a few days as I am still pretty busy at work and home this week and next), and I support this convention, though you know what they say about old habits.

To be honest, I just send F-T emails, and they respond to them. Some times it takes a few days, but they usually get answered.

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does anyone know how we disable the o2 sensor now that the crossover point is not adjustable on the newer updates

and is there anyway to disable the velocity stacks if you put fixed stacks on??
What do you mean you can not change the load bias setting? ...You do know that they changed it from a slider to a drop down box just above the speed adjustment?

One way to do it is to simply change it to an RPM that is above the rev limter, aka an RPM that the engine will never get to?

Does this help you VC?

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What do you mean you can not change the load bias setting? ...You do know that they changed it from a slider to a drop down box just above the speed adjustment? wow i didnt realize this

One way to do it is to simply change it to an RPM that is above the rev limter, aka an RPM that the engine will never get to?yea that was my plan,

Does this help you VC?yep thanks very much

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post #4806 of 12031 (permalink) Old 12-02-2012, 09:13 PM
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Does anyone know what the stock velocity stack switching point RPM for the crossplane is? I remember Jett and Garage Endeavors claimed they "optimized" this with the OEM stacks. I wonder if they used 10,500.
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post #4807 of 12031 (permalink) Old 12-03-2012, 04:32 AM
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Yes starting a new thread for map development would be a good idea. I have reached page 181 of thsi thread so far and all I have is peen's v2 and n4speed's map from old. I don't know if there have been any new maps since then. I don't know when I will be able to finish reading the entire thread.

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You will boooom your engine. I will open the Peen map and will edit the ignition map for you. Waiting 1-2days.
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You can flash this map, it have the stock ignition values on the high revs and up 50% throttle.


Also, it have a lower engine braking at high revs.
Thanks Jagi, dunno how I missed this earlier

Stock ignition settings above 50% throttle and higher revs? I don't need stock ignition timing on lower revs?

Is engine braking linked with ignition timing, is that why you have edited that too?

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ok run the new map i updated. he has it in his signature or send me a pm with your mail addy and ill send it to you.
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The old one or today's?

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Ummm, where is n4speed's modified map?

Guys, we need to have some proper organisation for finding all these development maps. Sifting through 250+ pages to find a map needs balls of steel.

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Ummm, where is n4speed's modified map?

Guys, we need to have some proper organisation for finding all these development maps. Sifting through 250+ pages to find a map needs balls of steel.
the map that N4speed and i worked on isnt published.

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Question (because I can't find the definitive answer). If I get the interface, can flash a 2011 AND a 2012 with the interface and software? thanks in advance!

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Question (because I can't find the definitive answer). If I get the interface, can flash a 2011 AND a 2012 with the interface and software? thanks in advance!
get the 12 version and you can flash the 9-11 also

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The 09-11 (2.2) version also works on 12. I've used mine on a friend's 2012. BTW, I think I'm going to switch permanently to the 100/20 engine braking setting, it's very consistent and still a hefty reduction over stock.
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The 09-11 (2.2) version also works on 12. I've used mine on a friend's 2012. BTW, I think I'm going to switch permanently to the 100/20 engine braking setting, it's very consistent and still a hefty reduction over stock.
The 2.2 version is the 09+ version. The original 09-11 version (the one that I have) is the 2.1 version of the interface. I still believe that this version cannot flash 12+...., I have not tired. I will ask F-T.

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Thanks for the clarification. So they have three crossplane interfaces? 2.1, 2.2 and 2.2.x?
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...I have the 2.1.....it was the one they made before they came up with the one that would also the the 12+...the 1.x does the 07-08.

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Can someone tell me why my FT may not be working? I was at the track on Friday and tryed more than several times to flash the ECU with no success. It kept giving me a connecting error and I did have the computer (charging) plugged in.

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Were you sure that you had a good 12V supply hooked up? That is the only time i get flashing errors...ie I forget to plug in the 12 power brick....

Also, does it work at home. If you were powering it off a generator, it could not be supplying it with a clean enough AC signal to generate the 12V DC (if you were using a wall mount power supply)...

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Were you sure that you had a good 12V supply hooked up? That is the only time i get flashing errors...ie I forget to plug in the 12 power brick....

Also, does it work at home. If you were powering it off a generator, it could not be supplying it with a clean enough AC signal to generate the 12V DC (if you were using a wall mount power supply)...
Yup, I checked it several times. I haven't tryed it from home since nor in quite a while but I will this week.

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