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post #4901 of 12524 (permalink) Old 12-24-2012, 09:33 PM
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I don't think the forced idle box has worked right since I've had my FT. I went in the timing map and retarded the timing in the first 2 columns down to 1800 RPM until mine settled around 11-1200 RPM. I can't remember what the value was at the moment and I'm not near my laptop to check it. Hope that helps.

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To clear out the cyl after the pull. I have been told that it also helps "cool" the cyl with the addition of fuel from blipping after a hard pull.
You're a 100 % correct, and also to minimize the thermal stress in the cylinder vs. the pistons.
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Can anybody give some feedback directly on the Flash tune files which are downloadable via the FT website.

I'm specifically interested in the 2012 R1 file which seems to make some considerable changes across Ignition timing and fueling. Has anybody used this map, then gone and got a custom tune with a PCV and noted the difference / dyno graphs?

I know these types of maps are usually conservative to suit the majority and are not customized but i was wondering if anybody had real-world evidence of a before / after applying this map.

If you use a FT map with altered fueling and then import a PCV map - does FT know that the PCV map are changes from stock and make the necessary adjustments?

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Yep, windows only right now. Sounds like they may have something in the works, but for now they only support windows. I actually run my interface using a windows xp virtual machine running inside of linux.

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Can anybody give some feedback directly on the Flash tune files which are downloadable via the FT website.

I'm specifically interested in the 2012 R1 file which seems to make some considerable changes across Ignition timing and fueling. Has anybody used this map, then gone and got a custom tune with a PCV and noted the difference / dyno graphs?

I know these types of maps are usually conservative to suit the majority and are not customized but i was wondering if anybody had real-world evidence of a before / after applying this map.

If you use a FT map with altered fueling and then import a PCV map - does FT know that the PCV map are changes from stock and make the necessary adjustments?

R1evoloution is who you need to talk to for a 2012 ECU image. The ECU image on F-T web page for '12 is not that great according to reports.

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Basically use the force target RPM, to get an idea of how the bike responds to it then tweak it till you get something you like. It will go no lower than stock, only higher.

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Guys I'm using peen's v2 map and wanted to try n4speed's too. I am looking at both. The differences are:
1: Engine braking: peen's and n4s' both etv are at 20% but n4s' fuel/ign slider is at 100% while peen's is at 0%. What effect does this have? Does this mean less engine braking? I wouldn't mind lesser than peen's.

2: n4s's map has some fuel mod parameters in the step 4, import map screen. Peen's fuel tps vs rpm tables have higher values than peen's.

3: Ignition timing in both maps are identical.

4: ycct: both maps are identical.

I'd like to know what are the differences between the 2 maps and how? How does the engine braking differ.

I love peen's map but I'd like even further reduced engine braking and still smoother throttle control in A mode. I know N4s's doesn't offer any changes in throttle control, can I alter it by hand without screwing up something else in the map?

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I went in the timing map and retarded the timing in the first 2 columns down to 1800 RPM until mine settled around 11-1200 RPM. I can't remember what the value was at the moment
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Guys I'm using peen's v2 map and wanted to try n4speed's too. I am looking at both. The differences are:
1: Engine braking: peen's and n4s' both etv are at 20% but n4s' fuel/ign slider is at 100% while peen's is at 0%. What effect does this have? Does this mean less engine braking? I wouldn't mind lesser than peen's.

2: n4s's map has some fuel mod parameters in the step 4, import map screen. Peen's fuel tps vs rpm tables have higher values than peen's.

3: Ignition timing in both maps are identical.

4: ycct: both maps are identical.

I'd like to know what are the differences between the 2 maps and how? How does the engine braking differ.

I love peen's map but I'd like even further reduced engine braking and still smoother throttle control in A mode. I know N4s's doesn't offer any changes in throttle control, can I alter it by hand without screwing up something else in the map?
The fuel/ign slider adds fuel&ign when off throttle and decelerating, 100% slider should have least amount of engine braking,the fuel added (at 0% throttle)keeps the engine "running" and causes it to drop rpm slower. Should also make getting back on the throttle smoother as well,since engine is not going from no fuel to some fuel,making throttle less "jerky". Try 25-30% ETV and slowly bring the ETV slider to higher %'s, you will reach a point that the bike does not slow down when the throttle is "closed" because the ETV (electronic throttle valve) is holding the throttles open longer than you want. Be very careful and go slow on the ETV setting,until your'e sure how it reacts to you wanting it to.

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I don't think the forced idle box has worked right since I've had my FT. I went in the timing map and retarded the timing in the first 2 columns down to 1800 RPM until mine settled around 11-1200 RPM. I can't remember what the value was at the moment and I'm not near my laptop to check it. Hope that helps.
I would love a 1100-1200 rpm idle!

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Hey guys, with the last versions of FT software, when you touch the ETV, the ETV values are down than OEM values. This is for the 09-12 R1. Look the YCCT table before and after the ETV slider has been touched. At 12 000tr/min you will have more engine braking than stock value. The 1.2.2.0 version is better for ETV setting.

Also, with a 1100-1200rpm idle, you will use the cams chain, the battery will don't be charged at 14.4V. The best idle for street use is around 1400tr/min.

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The fuel/ign slider adds fuel&ign when off throttle and decelerating, 100% slider should have least amount of engine braking,the fuel added (at 0% throttle)keeps the engine "running" and causes it to drop rpm slower. Should also make getting back on the throttle smoother as well,since engine is not going from no fuel to some fuel,making throttle less "jerky". Try 25-30% ETV and slowly bring the ETV slider to higher %'s, you will reach a point that the bike does not slow down when the throttle is "closed" because the ETV (electronic throttle valve) is holding the throttles open longer than you want. Be very careful and go slow on the ETV setting,until your'e sure how it reacts to you wanting it to.
thanks, I'll just got with etv at 20% as per n4s' map due to the vagaries involved with etv affecting ignition timing elsewhere in the map. At least that's what I've read.

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Hey guys, with the last versions of FT software, when you toch the ETV, the ETV values are down than OEM values. This is for the 09-12 R1. Look the YCCT table before and after the ETV slider has been touched. At 12 000tr/min you will have more engine braking. The 1.2.2.0 version is better for ETV setting.
That's the reason I'm afraid to touch the engine braking settings. I've heard setting something in these 2 sliders affects something else in the map.

Anyone know why N4S's map has fuel mods in the general settings and peen's has them in the tps vs rpm table?

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Also, with a 1100-1200rpm idle, you will use the cams chain, the battery will don't be charged at 14.4V. The best idle for street use is around 1400tr/min.
Cams chain??? Unless you just crank your bike to let it sit and idle, that idle RPM is not going to hurt battery. Even then I seriously doubt it would have a negative affect on the battery. Mines been idling at 1100 for quite a while now and never once had a problem with the battery.



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