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post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-24-2012, 06:14 AM
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the lightechs are easier because you need no tools to adjust them. they also cost significatly more. the TCA style gilles like i showed you just loosed axle nut and turn each side with allen tool and retighten axle nut.

i wouldnt sit on these on a stand though. they do move around on their own when you have wheel removed.(its only that lil 8mm bolt that holds your whole bike up, i'll use the bobbins because thats what they are designed for) im good 240 and i sit on my bike with the boobins on the stand and feel comfortable doing so. would never do that off the adjusters

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Yep, the one I was referencing aren't the ones pictured above. The adjusters extended a few inches beyond the swinger and that's what bent/failed in the pics I saw.
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Well I just bought them today on ebay so I don't have them yet.. I'll get pics up as soon as I get them.

These are the ones I bought, only mine were used.

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god i love getting good deals on top end parts. have less then 500 in both the gilles rearsets and adjusters and the rearsets retail for 580 this forum is good to us!

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the lightechs are easier because you need no tools to adjust them. they also cost significatly more. the TCA style gilles like i showed you just loosed axle nut and turn each side with allen tool and retighten axle nut.

i wouldnt sit on these on a stand though. they do move around on their own when you have wheel removed.(its only that lil 8mm bolt that holds your whole bike up, i'll use the bobbins because thats what they are designed for) im good 240 and i sit on my bike with the boobins on the stand and feel comfortable doing so. would never do that off the adjusters
I'm about 80-90lbs lighter so maybe that's why I'm ok with it

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Are you sure that's what you bought, don't you have an 05?
No those aren't the EXACT ones. Yeah, I've got an 05. I bought them on ebay so there's a huge possibility I got railroaded with some cheap aftermarket crap..

But idk, I'll wait till they get here to decide. To me, they looked just like any Gilles that I've ever seen, just used. Some scuffs, Nothing to remove paint (powdercoat?) but scuffs nonetheless..

Overall they looked good.
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Just picked up a set as well from MM(thanks Corey) haven't fitted them yet but they are the TCA items and look trick. They also seem straight forward to fit and not too different from stock but then again, I'm ok with the technical stuff when I have the tools!
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No those aren't the EXACT ones. Yeah, I've got an 05. I bought them on ebay so there's a huge possibility I got railroaded with some cheap aftermarket crap..

But idk, I'll wait till they get here to decide. To me, they looked just like any Gilles that I've ever seen, just used. Some scuffs, Nothing to remove paint (powdercoat?) but scuffs nonetheless..

Overall they looked good.
Is this them?

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Those are good, genuine Gilles.
They will be fine and secure, haven't had a problem with mine in over 5 years. Problems didn't start until 07> as the swingers are different.






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Gecko, was it a problem with the adjusters themselves on those models? Or was it mainly user error?

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Those are good, genuine Gilles.
They will be fine and secure, haven't had a problem with mine in over 5 years. Problems didn't start until 07> as the swingers are different.
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Gecko, was it a problem with the adjusters themselves on those models? Or was it mainly user error?

Don't take this as Gospel PJ but the problem as I'm aware (and have seen) is that the 07> swinger is thicker at the rear where the adjusters actually clamp. This means that they don't necessarily sit square and can stop the adjusters sitting flat and effect the clamping ability of the axle. This is why (I believe) they ask you put back the OEM adjuster bolts to stop the wheel from moving forward should that in fact happen.
I have seen NO examples of >06 having a problem and when fitted correctly they sit perfectly flat and will not effect the axle clamping force.

Like I say this is not anything official.

There were of course some examples of dipshits spacing them out with washers and stuff on extended swingers and the like, but then they get what they deserve






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I have the original design Gilles adjusters & lifters, mine are between 8-9 years old and I have never had any issues with them
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I hope you got the TCA model. They got rid of the other model as they had issues as stated above. You ahd to use the oem bolts in addition to the Gilles chain adjusters to ensure you wouldn't have an issue.
so i'm not smoking the cheap stuff then!... yeh i couldnt remember what the issue was., thanks for posting.




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nope, as all the gsxr models had to use the oem bolts as well. It was a design flaw in the entire design. It's not likely you'll have an issue, but after a certain number of people did they recommend that the old model all use the oem bolts and then they moved the TCA model for all bikes from then on and even went backwards with the TCA adjusters a decent amount.

A very small % had issues, but a few that did 100% installed them right and that is when Gilles decided it was time to recommend the oem bolt be used and changed their design. Odds are you will not have an issue, but I wouldn't risk it when you're talking about your rear wheel. Just use the oem bolts in addition with them.


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Don't take this as Gospel PJ but the problem as I'm aware (and have seen) is that the 07> swinger is thicker at the rear where the adjusters actually clamp. This means that they don't necessarily sit square and can stop the adjusters sitting flat and effect the clamping ability of the axle. This is why (I believe) they ask you put back the OEM adjuster bolts to stop the wheel from moving forward should that in fact happen.
I have seen NO examples of >06 having a problem and when fitted correctly they sit perfectly flat and will not effect the axle clamping force.

Like I say this is not anything official.

There were of course some examples of dipshits spacing them out with washers and stuff on extended swingers and the like, but then they get what they deserve
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ive got the older model, havent had an issue. i would of preferred the lightechs but not available for my year.
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