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07 R1 Glitches - Throttle lag

Picked up the 07 yesturday, rode it home all is good. Park it once home and start drooling, get ready to go for a ride about an hour later start it let it warm back up. Sitting there idling as I get my gear on blip the throttle and it dies glitch #1. Crusing down the road 55-60 throttle it nothing happens for split second and poof there it goes happened three times already glitch #2-3. Any thoughts?
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is there a way to check the settings on the fly by wire throttle? ie adjust it?
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The only thing the manual shows to adjust are the cables, nothing else. Slack on the cables are still within spec to the manual.
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i would wait for other owners to post, it might take longer than it did in the past for the fly by wire to engage. I know r1lover said it's going to take some time to get use to the fly by wire.
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I was kinda thinking the same thing about the FBW, but it only has done it a handfull of times, and at other times has been very responsive. Just a FYI the 03 definitly has way more low end grunt than the 07 for anyone curious. Took them both out today to feel the difference. Anyway i'm hijacking my own thread. Carry on any other thoughts?
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Same Problems

I have about 150 Miles on mine and I have also had the same problems that you are having. I was riding it around the Apt complex and blipped the throttle at low speed and it cut-out on me. It also cut-out while pullin in the clutch at low speed and blippin the throttle.
The highway issue was around the 60mph and it has happened twice. I was tryin to explain it to my buddies who were with me but they thought I was mistaken. I knew that I rolled on the throttle but it just stayed there and then it finally decided to accelerate. They had convinced me that it was my gloves just slippin or something.
Im glad to see that I am not the only one with some issues so far. I like it so far. I just sold my 04 for this one so I am pleased. There seems to be more power from what I have ridden. I talked to my dealer about the two issues already and he said we will have to wait and see. Like waiting for me to crash and see how I go ape shit on his ass I guess. Keep me informed if you can on the outcome of your issues. Thanks.
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I have about 150 Miles on mine and I have also had the same problems that you are having. I was riding it around the Apt complex and blipped the throttle at low speed and it cut-out on me. It also cut-out while pullin in the clutch at low speed and blippin the throttle.
The highway issue was around the 60mph and it has happened twice. I was tryin to explain it to my buddies who were with me but they thought I was mistaken. I knew that I rolled on the throttle but it just stayed there and then it finally decided to accelerate. They had convinced me that it was my gloves just slippin or something.
Im glad to see that I am not the only one with some issues so far. I like it so far. I just sold my 04 for this one so I am pleased. There seems to be more power from what I have ridden. I talked to my dealer about the two issues already and he said we will have to wait and see. Like waiting for me to crash and see how I go ape shit on his ass I guess. Keep me informed if you can on the outcome of your issues. Thanks.
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I just read the R1 test in Roadracing world and Chris Ulrich mentioned having the same problem. " Picking the R1 up off idle I noticed a slight delay in the throttle response; if the throttle was controlled by cables I could easily blame poor fuel injection mapping, but according to Yamaha, the closed loop YCC-T system allows for optimal engine mapping, so that theoretically rules out the map.

Another possible cause could be the fly-by-wireYCC-T system lagging from the time I opened the throttle on the handlebar and when the servo actuated the butterflies, or it could just be the map, theory or not. The main point is that there was a delay from the time I opened the gas until the R1 started reacting"
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once people get customs maps then you'll know if it's the map or fly by wire throttles...
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hope i dont have the same problems... Isn't this a warantee issue? bring it back to the dealer and see what they say. They will probably come out with a TSB thingy for it.
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I hear where you are coming from but if its down to the FBW thats already spent 12 months on the R6.
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Hopefully this issue will have an easy fix. Always a risk when you buy a first year bike. However, I am surprised because Yamaha has already used the system on the R6 so one would think they'd be able to implement it on the R1 with no problems. I'm hoping my K7 has no issues.....

If I had to bet on which new '07 bike would have the most problems I put my $$ on the 1098 because it's COMPLETELY new. The R1 and the K7 are "new" but they're actually just upgraded.
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No problems here, I think you will just need to ride the bike and get used to the FBW...... it reacts differently then a normally controlled bike... There is some limiting of the power in the lower speed range from what I can tell so far.

If you are babying it around during break in you will notice this more. I personally don't think there is an issue with mine, but in the lower speeds you can tell it's watching out for you.

Open it up and drive it normally and I have nothing but great things to say about it.

This new system will likely have some bugs to work out, but those of you saying the 03 has more bottom end are not operating the bike properly... lol Keep in mind that this bike is computer controlled and limited in the lower range. This helps make this bike one of the smoothest bikes I have ridden.

Time will tell for sure, but these are my opinions from riding mine.
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No problems here, I think you will just need to ride the bike and get used to the FBW...... it reacts differently then a normally controlled bike... There is some limiting of the power in the lower speed range from what I can tell so far.

If you are babying it around during break in you will notice this more. I personally don't think there is an issue with mine, but in the lower speeds you can tell it's watching out for you.

Open it up and drive it normally and I have nothing but great things to say about it.

This new system will likely have some bugs to work out, but those of you saying the 03 has more bottom end are not operating the bike properly... lol Keep in mind that this bike is computer controlled and limited in the lower range. This helps make this bike one of the smoothest bikes I have ridden.

Time will tell for sure, but these are my opinions from riding mine.

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I think the R1 limiting the power in the lower speed range is different from it cutting off completely after blipping. I wonder if it's stalling due a glitch in the YCCI. Considering this has happen multiple times one 2 bikes so far I think it's something to look into.
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I think the R1 limiting the power in the lower speed range is different from it cutting off completely after blipping. I wonder if it's stalling due a glitch in the YCCI. Considering this has happen multiple times one 2 bikes so far I think it's something to look into.

I agree that it might be something to look into, but you need more than 2 ( or a handful of ) bikes to come to that conclusion.



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I agree that it might be something to look into, but you need more than 2 ( or a handful of ) bikes to come to that conclusion.


Agreed. But there's really only a handful of people on here with the bike. It'll be a little while before we know if there is a real issue.
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