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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 11-06-2012, 06:55 AM Thread Starter
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condensation in lights

Recently I noticed after a ride, that both my headlights are accumulation condensation in the corners. I hadnt taken the bike out for a decent amount of time in a few weeks. Rode for about an hour and there was a little condenstation in both headlights. I pulled out the bulbs and let it dry. Then I took out the bike yesterday for a few hours. Same thing in both corners of the headlights. No moisture had touched the bike since they had previously dried out. It seems weird that 2 headlight seals would go bad together. I was thinking of putting in angel eyes so I would have to re seal the lights anyway. Anyone else had both headlights start leaking together?
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post #2 of 31 (permalink) Old 11-06-2012, 07:05 AM
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sounds like the headlight fluid is leaking. That's a dealer fix.

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sounds like the headlight fluid is leaking. That's a dealer fix.
Headlight fluid? Wtf... no no no its blinker fluid. Duh

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sounds like the headlight fluid is leaking. That's a dealer fix.
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Headlight fluid? Wtf... no no no its blinker fluid. Duh

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the thing that sucks is I just changed the fluid, Both of them. Bought a 55 gal drum of it for a buck a gallon. It was tough to change, I burned myself on the front differential pretty bad, could barely get it back into 4 wheel drive after that. So I guess no one has had both headlight seals go bad together.
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That's nothing.............you know how much a bucket of prop wash costs? You don't want to spill a drop of that stuff.

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Right!.. Well i'm leaving for afghanistan in like 2 weeks so its gonna have to wait anyway, I just didnt know if this was common or not. Thanks for all the help though
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Mine does it sometimes. That's a lot of heat generated by the bulbs especially if you have the highs running whole time. If its just in the corners it's not a big deal but if your whole lens is getting fogged up then you have an issue id say.


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have you checked all the sockets at the back and made sure the rubber seals are good and that they are screwed in tight?
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Yes its just the corners where the lights come together from what I can tell. Im not super worried about it at this time, I was just wondering if anyone else had this happen. I just double checked to make sure the rubber seals are on the back also.
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Ah man, I had the same issue with my previous bike - FZ6. The only way I finally fixed it was to buy a whole new headlight. I tried everything: Hairdryer, heat from a light, compressed air, shouting at it and I even left a heater on it overnight.

Any moisture that gets in, stays in.

If you do get a new one, check that it seals properly.

Something else you might consider, is just living with it...

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Just picked up my 2012 this past Saturday, and both my lenses fogged up after the 70 mile ride home. Weird. Both cleared the next day. I did ride with my high beams on the entire time.

Is there a Yamaha TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) for this issue? If so, does anyone have the number, a copy, or a link to it? Thanks in advance...

I will have the dealer check it when I go in for 600 mile service I guess. Brand new bike, so I'm a bit perplexed too. And, I'm excited to join the Yamaha liter bike club finally.

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Update: rode around a bit last night but -without- the high beams on. And, lo & behold- no condensation in the headlights at all.

So, I'm thinking the condensation is being caused by running the high beams continuously then? That is so weird...

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So, I'm thinking the condensation is being caused by running the high beams continuously then? That is so weird...

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Heat up the gooey seals with a hairdryer, pull the two halves apart and smudge to goo back into areas where its lacking heat up again and re-seal pushing them tightly togeather while they cool.

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Wouldn't it be easier just to seal the chamber with silicone?


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You can't seal the headlamps, there are 2 big holes in the back where the bulbs go






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Heat up the gooey seals with a hairdryer, pull the two halves apart and smudge to goo back into areas where its lacking heat up again and re-seal pushing them tightly togeather while they cool.


A hairdryer may not be able to heat up the entire unit enough to pull the halves apart. I have known peeps to put headlamp assembly's in a household oven preheated to 350 degree's for just long enough to be able to pull the halves apart, usually a few minutes.




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You can't seal the headlamps, there are 2 big holes in the back where the bulbs go


True that



Although, if you're in a real humid area, I think you can squeeze water out of the air, and into the assembly via the front, though an unsealed portion



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I think it's weird that they only fog up when running high beams tho. Riding around in the damp/ cold night air with regular beams they didn't fog up at all.

What is different with the high beams that might cause this?


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