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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 03-24-2012, 10:29 PM Thread Starter
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Thumbs up New fork design? images inside wood/alloy

I'm assuming some of you have read about this or seen pictures i was just browsing the web and came across this looks fairly neat i like how it would eliminate for seals haha but I am just saying that because mine are blown at the moment it looks bulky but futuristic.
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Pretty sure I saw a bike that Roland Sands did with a front end like that, while I do agree it is interesting I also believe that it loses the sportbike effect totally. JMHO

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My thought exactly, cant imaging it being lighter but looks more durable
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Pretty sure I saw a bike that Roland Sands did with a front end like that, while I do agree it is interesting I also believe that it loses the sportbike effect totally. JMHO
how does it lose the sport bike effect if all you're doing is replacing the forks?
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You tell me you'd get on track and ride that, no way in hell you'd catch me near it. It just doesn't appease the eyes like normal sportbike bits do. Besides, it isn't "just forks", it's something right up front of the bike that aesthetically lacks in a major way and can't be ignored.

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You tell me you'd get on track and ride that, no way in hell you'd catch me near it. It just doesn't appease the eyes like normal sportbike bits do. Besides, it isn't "just forks", it's something right up front of the bike that aesthetically lacks in a major way and can't be ignored.
if it performs as needed and preferably better hell yes I'd rock that on the track.

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You tell me you'd get on track and ride that, no way in hell you'd catch me near it. It just doesn't appease the eyes like normal sportbike bits do. Besides, it isn't "just forks", it's something right up front of the bike that aesthetically lacks in a major way and can't be ignored.
paint/powdercoat it and you'd barely notice it. you're probably going to be the minority on this one.

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if it performs as needed and preferably better hell yes I'd rock that on the track.

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if it performs as needed and preferably better hell yes I'd rock that on the track.
If that design really was better, let alone usable, on track then wouldn't it have been implemented on a race bike by now? There isn't a thing wrong with traditional forks hence why the overall design hasn't changed in years. It's a tried and true product, if it isn't broken don't try to fix it. Improving maybe, but not a total revamp of the design like this is.

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paint/powdercoat it and you'd barely notice it. you're probably going to be the minority on this one.
Paint or powder coat can't cover up an aesthetic mistake like that. And that's perfectly fine, I'm willing to accept that I'm the minority on this one. I don't like it but as I said in my first post, it's only my humble opinion.

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If that design really was better, let alone usable, on track then wouldn't it have been implemented on a race bike by now? There isn't a thing wrong with traditional forks hence why the overall design hasn't changed in years. It's a tried and true product, if it isn't broken don't try to fix it. Improving maybe, but not a total revamp of the design like this is.



Paint or powder coat can't cover up an aesthetic mistake like that. And that's perfectly fine, I'm willing to accept that I'm the minority on this one. I don't like it but as I said in my first post, it's only my humble opinion.
And the rear shock has always been perpendicular to the ground....what the hell was ducati thinking


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If that design really was better, let alone usable, on track then wouldn't it have been implemented on a race bike by now? There isn't a thing wrong with traditional forks hence why the overall design hasn't changed in years. It's a tried and true product, if it isn't broken don't try to fix it. Improving maybe, but not a total revamp of the design like this is.



Paint or powder coat can't cover up an aesthetic mistake like that. And that's perfectly fine, I'm willing to accept that I'm the minority on this one. I don't like it but as I said in my first post, it's only my humble opinion.

i said you're probably going to be the minority, which as i always say, i could be wrong. things change with time, chris brought up a perfect example of that with the bike he posted.
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R1Rider...my point is if companies don't try to fix somthing that isn't broken, we'd all be riding around on 100hp machines...

The fork design is something that may be revolutionary in performance (need tests/real world application)....You just don't know until someone tries it and either fails or succeeds

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Another example of fixing something that wasn't broken was yamaha in 2009 with the xplane motor. Nothing wrong with a Vtwin of ducati and nothing wrong with a standard inline 4 of previous yamahas as well as other jap bikes

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Is it just me, or when the front has to compress the wheelbase shortens significantly more than with standard forks? (more-so in the mock up than the finished product). On the finished product it looks like the designer may have figured that out, but look what the fix was: a much bigger shock that is now a lot more inline with the aluminum........ (I guess you would call it a front swing arm?) and the angle between them is so shallow that I can not see how this is mechanically advantageous at all. In fact I can see where something like landing a wheelie wrong or hitting a depression or bump could possibly not allow the proper shock absorption and you would be fcvked.

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I may be wrong here too, but isn't it just a play one something that's been around for a long time







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I may be wrong here too, but isn't it just a play one something that's been around for a long time

Does it have the parallelogram pivot geometry like that? In the pic above it looks like it only pivots up at the top, just like a swingarm. If it was a parallelogram, then the stuff I said would not be the case........at all.

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Looks like it to me, i can see two pivot points, the main difference is the shock is outside not inside.
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Is that the instrument panel near the top of the windscreen in the full-faired pic? Also looks like a screw through the screen itself for stability.

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Yeah that's the cluster for sure.
Let's face it the forks are one thing, how he's mounted the fairings etc. afterwards is a whole other question






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linkage forks have been around since the beginning of the motorcycle. There are pro/cons to both telescopic and linkage forks

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