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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-21-2012, 05:59 PM Thread Starter
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When is Yamaha going to give us a new R1/R6 ?

It's been 5 years now for the R1 and 6 years now for the R6 since a re-design.
When is Yamaha going to give us some fresh meat?

I've got a 2011 Suzuki Gsx-r750 that blows away the R1 in handling and it's pretty dam close in power to the newest generation R1.

The 2013 Kawasaki zx6r looks like tits in it's class. We shall see.

What's Yamaha waiting for?
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I've got a 2011 Suzuki Gsx-r750 that blows away the R1 in handling and it's pretty dam close in power to the newest generation R1.
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Five years since the last remake of the R1?

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Five years since the last remake of the R1?
'13 will make the 5th model year

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'13 will make the 5th model year
I was thinking 2013 - 2009 = 4


Not like Suzuki has much to say. They've all been fugly since day one.

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I was thinking 2013 - 2009 = 4


Not like Suzuki has much to say. They've all been fugly since day one.
'09 - 1 model year ha ha ha
'10 - 2 model year ha ha ha
'11 - 3 model year ha ha ha
'12 - 4 model year ha ha ha
'13 - 5 model year ha ha ha


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a 750 that was as fast as a r1...ummm....

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'09 - 1 model year ha ha ha
'10 - 2 model year ha ha ha
'11 - 3 model year ha ha ha
'12 - 4 model year ha ha ha
'13 - 5 model year ha ha ha


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a 750 that was as fast as a r1...ummm....
On the right track, a 600 would be faster than an R1. Heck, even a SuMo'd 450 would be faster.

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Meh... I've been up since 0330 and dealing with all day from on call and project managers. Brain's fried.



On the right track, a 600 would be faster than an R1. Heck, even a SuMo'd 450 would be faster.
sure...make it small enough and tight enough...MOST track records are held by litre bikes. Now if you look the 600 record isn't far behind

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sure...make it small enough and tight enough...MOST track records are held by litre bikes. Now if you look the 600 record isn't far behind
Thus why I said on the right track.

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a 750 that was as fast as a r1...ummm....
No. I said "dam close" as fast. I am not talking about Squids twisting the throttle between stoplights and seeing which one pulls harder. Out to the real world-

In the real world my 2011 GSXR750 lap times are faster on the track. This applies to Laguna Seca and Infineon too. The Suzuki handling is far better. This applies to liter bikes too. I sold my R1. The R1 gets out gunned in just about every liter bike category. The new gixxer is faster for me at least.

So, don't want to bash Yamaha....but it's time for them to join weight watchers and sharpen everything up here. There's a problem with the torque.

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I sold my R1. The R1 gets out gunned in just about every liter bike category. The new gixxer is faster for me at least.
Are you basing your bike purchases strictly upon whichever one has the greatest power, etc. based upon magazines?

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No. I said "dam close" as fast. I am not talking about Squids twisting the throttle between stoplights and seeing which one pulls harder. Out to the real world-

In the real world my 2011 GSXR750 lap times are faster on the track. This applies to Laguna Seca and Infineon too. The Suzuki handling is far better. This applies to liter bikes too. I sold my R1. The R1 gets out gunned in just about every liter bike category. The new gixxer is faster for me at least.

So, don't want to bash Yamaha....but it's time for them to join weight watchers and sharpen everything up here. There's a problem with the torque.

REDESIGN PLEASE.
So you joined an R1 forum for what reason....and the R1 gets out gunned in every category of a mag...but it sure as shit takes a lot of podium finishes in AMA and others

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So you joined an R1 forum for what reason....and the R1 gets out gunned in every category of a mag...but it sure as shit takes a lot of podium finishes in AMA and others
..josh hayes sure is slow on that r1!

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That's the spirit.

You can't compare GP or WSB to the bikes sold at dealers for street use.
Have you seen those bikes up close?
They are not even close to the same.
That's all market hype.
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Here's my 2004 R1:

Its a better bike than the 2009 generation in my humble soft spoken opinion.

As you can see I dropped a lot on it to make it perform very well.
It can run kinda close to the current crop of liter bikes out.
I don't know why- but the current gen R1 didn't even feel like it was a liter bike. Yamaha is adding complex ( and Heavy) stuff to their R1 when they should be concentrating on how to make it lighter and dance quicker side to side. It's a move out on a tangent and I hope they come back to the center for 2014.
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im not saying the r1 is the best thing ever....but for those of us who enjoy it and own one....we like it. if Suzuki floats your boat, good luck.im sure every liter bike will be pushing 180 hp stock and weight feather weight soon. im sure yamaha will progress as always....market hype is also what you read in magazines shootouts!

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