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Crossplane vs. Not so Crossplane

So guys, insight to me the actual differences in the earlier R1's vs. the crossplane engines. Are they really all the rage?

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I love my crossplane, I picked my r1 because it's a crossplane. Different sound, different torque band. Here is the actual visual difference of the crankshaft.

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depends on what kind of engine characteristics you like.

You have to ride a crossplane to understand how they ride.

Go to a dealer and take one out for a spin - its hard to explain it but its a unique engine to ride


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No vibrating screamer here.


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after finally pulling the trigger on a new R1 I will find it hard to ever look at another bike with a standard I4 ever again. the sound while riding it is even better than the sound you hear not riding it.
think of a nice thumping V8 engine and imaging riding it. that's what it sounds like to me.
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Well let's put it this way. I currently own a 2010 BMW s1000rr and a 2011 Yamaha r1 and until the engine on my R1 started knocking, I hadn't ridden my s1000rr since I bought the crossplane.

So if someone is choosing the crossplane over an s1000rr. It's definitely crossplane ftw lol.

I've also owned in my past
04 R1
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And nothing compared to the crossplane R1. The 07 was a fast one tho. But still the crossplane !!!
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I love my crossplane, I picked my r1 because it's a crossplane. Different sound, different torque band. Here is the actual visual difference of the crankshaft. https://youtu.be/oEXUrO5wYcE

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I love my crossplane, I picked my r1 because it's a crossplane. Different sound, different torque band. Here is the actual visual difference of the crankshaft. https://youtu.be/oEXUrO5wYcE

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This was an extremely helpful video.
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depends on what kind of engine characteristics you like.

You have to ride a crossplane to understand how they ride.

Go to a dealer and take one out for a spin - its hard to explain it but its a unique engine to ride
As much as I'd like to, I don't think any dealer is gonna allow a 19 year old to take their R1 for a spin regardless of my history on my own sportbike being flawless

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As much as I'd like to, I don't think any dealer is gonna allow a 19 year old to take their R1 for a spin regardless of my history on my own sportbike being flawless
If you have the money on hand, you can probably get a dealer to let you test ride a used one. Gotta find the right dealer. I look young for my age and I got to ride an 1199 S, so YMMV.

Just be aware you may not be riding one that has been flashed, so throttle restrictions etc. may be in place. It feels different after a re-flash of the ECU for sure
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If you have the money on hand, you can probably get a dealer to let you test ride a used one. Gotta find the right dealer. I look young for my age and I got to ride an 1199 S, so YMMV.

Just be aware you may not be riding one that has been flashed, so throttle restrictions etc. may be in place. It feels different after a re-flash of the ECU for sure
I can agree 100% here, after my flash tune it was a different bike so smooth

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Well let's put it this way. I currently own a 2010 BMW s1000rr and a 2011 Yamaha r1 and until the engine on my R1 started knocking, I hadn't ridden my s1000rr since I bought the crossplane.

So if someone is choosing the crossplane over an s1000rr. It's definitely crossplane ftw lol.

I've also owned in my past
04 R1
07 R1
And nothing compared to the crossplane R1. The 07 was a fast one tho. But still the crossplane !!!
100% agreed. I had an 04 R1, 08 R1 and then an 09 R1 and that bike has tainted me so bad i couldnt buy my dream bike which was a 2014 bmw s1krr because it sounded like a gsxr(even with a shorty arrow exhaust).

You dont have to test ride one to see if you like it because you will. The guys that dont own one will say other wise but ask anyone whos converted and spent actual seat time and i'll bet 99% are happy with the xplane. The sound that motor makes with some pipes is honestly the best sound out there.
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Crossplane

No vibrating screamer here.
Interesting. I've put over 20,000 miles on two different 2002s and now a 2003.
Never noticed vibrations...

I prefer the wail of the "screamer" engines myself.
And it's not because I'm too cheap to buy a newer R1.
I have a few other new screamers as well.
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Interesting. I've put over 20,000 miles on two different 2002s and now a 2003.
Never noticed vibrations...

I prefer the wail of the "screamer" engines myself.
And it's not because I'm too cheap to buy a newer R1.
I have a few other new screamers as well.
Crossplane engines vibrate far less than flatplane engines.

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Guess I got lucky and always had smooth screamers.
Put 30,000+ miles on an '06 FZ1 as well. Traveled all over on all of them. Many many 300+ mile days on the R1s and 600+ mile days on the FZ.
No issues with bar/clip-on vibes.

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Guess I got lucky and always had smooth screamers.
Put 30,000+ miles on an '06 FZ1 as well. Traveled all over on all of them. Many many 300+ mile days on the R1s and 600+ mile days on the FZ.
No issues with bar/clip-on vibes.
Have you ridden a crossplane?


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Guess I got lucky and always had smooth screamers.
Put 30,000+ miles on an '06 FZ1 as well. Traveled all over on all of them. Many many 300+ mile days on the R1s and 600+ mile days on the FZ.
No issues with bar/clip-on vibes.
I think they are talking about a generalization, in general a crossplane has less vibration and smoother throttle due to the crankshaft design

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Have you ridden a crossplane?
Yes. And I'm not saying a Crossplane is NOT smoother. Just that I've NEVER had vibration issues on any inline 4 I've ever had. This includes 15,000 miles on a CBR1000RR.

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Yes. And I'm not saying a Crossplane is NOT smoother. Just that I've NEVER had vibration issues on any inline 4 I've ever had. This includes 15,000 miles on a CBR1000RR.
You must be riding slow.
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As much as I'd like to, I don't think any dealer is gonna allow a 19 year old to take their R1 for a spin regardless of my history on my own sportbike being flawless
You might be surprised.

Ive never had trouble riding to a dealer, telling them what Im interested in, and getting a test ride.

I dont fork out money for something new without knowing how it rides.
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