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post #8761 of 15162 (permalink) Old 11-11-2012, 05:12 AM
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Oh shit didnt know ctd wouldnt ship here, i might have to look into making them myself. Never done it, how hard is it?



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post #8762 of 15162 (permalink) Old 11-11-2012, 05:23 AM
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Oh shit didnt know ctd wouldnt ship here, i might have to look into making them myself. Never done it, how hard is it?
Depends on what you are reloading for.As far as difficulty,there are formulas for what kind of powder and how much to use with any given bullet weight in any caliber all over the internet.

Quick rundown of the steps:

Clean brass.
Measure and trim brass.
Seat primer
Measure and add powder
Seat bullet.
Measure overall length for spec.

I only reload for my bolt gun,it isn't hard but it is very time consuming measuring and weighing everything.But I am looking for accuracy,not trying to save money.

If you want to reload for handguns or semi-auto rifles,it's not hard.The initial investment(dies,press,scale) can get kind of expensive and it will take a few thousand rounds before you start to realize any savings.If you are reloading to save money,you need to look into a progressive reloading press.It is a lot quicker than a single stage setup,but is also a lot more expensive.

With the election results,the components(powder,primers,brass and bullets) are going to do nothing but go up in price,so keep that in mind as well.

If you understood the dangers of todays modern malls,you would not mock the brave men and women that secure them for our freedom and safety.

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Over-rated? Yeah, right.
Seriously. There are production units out there that shoot as good or better for half the price. You're paying for a name now that the manufacturers have caught up.

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This is true but depending on what he's looking for they may be limited or unavailable.
Yep, was what I intended to say. Not a lot of quantity, and depending upon location, may not carry specific rounds. But, always worth a check when walking through.

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Seriously. There are production units out there that shoot as good or better for half the price. You're paying for a name now that the manufacturers have caught up.


Just like Kimber. Both are still very good guns. But, why pay higher prices when you don't have to? Unless of course, you want to.

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Oh shit didnt know ctd wouldnt ship here, i might have to look into making them myself. Never done it, how hard is it?
Most people won't ship gun control bastion cities, even if it's legal. We have one town here that still has a magazine ban and ammo ban on the books even though it's not legal for them to do so. Dealers won't ship to them.

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post #8766 of 15162 (permalink) Old 11-11-2012, 09:52 AM
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Do you just load them or do you reload them? Just curious as I didn't see anything about resizing the brass?

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Depends on what you are reloading for.As far as difficulty,there are formulas for what kind of powder and how much to use with any given bullet weight in any caliber all over the internet.

Quick rundown of the steps:

Clean brass.
Measure and trim brass.
Seat primer
Measure and add powder
Seat bullet.
Measure overall length for spec.

I only reload for my bolt gun,it isn't hard but it is very time consuming measuring and weighing everything.But I am looking for accuracy,not trying to save money.

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With the election results,the components(powder,primers,brass and bullets) are going to do nothing but go up in price,so keep that in mind as well.
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Ya Corey, kind of forgot that step..lol

If you understood the dangers of todays modern malls,you would not mock the brave men and women that secure them for our freedom and safety.
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I read it over and over thinking maybe I was stoopid and missed it LOL. Just wondered if maybe you didn't reuse the brass and if so why? no biggy lol. You just left me wondering wtf over here.
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Shoot carbon fiber. You get to reuse the ammo without reloading.

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Jason do you load 12G? If you dont no worries but if so send me some numbers, looking to buy a decent ammount.



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Jason do you load 12G? If you dont no worries but if so send me some numbers, looking to buy a decent ammount.
Not yet. Soon though.

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Jason do you load 12G? If you dont no worries but if so send me some numbers, looking to buy a decent ammount.
Unless you really get into reloading shotshells, the cost savings just isn't there. Last time I reloaded, it was almost $1.00 more per box of 25 to reload with used shells than it was to go to Wal-Mart and buy the Federal multi-purpose amo pack of 100. That wasn't even counting the cost of the loader. Just materials.

Most times, friends of mine and I would just keep a watch on the ads and then go stock up.

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Unless you really get into reloading shotshells, the cost savings just isn't there. Last time I reloaded, it was almost $1.00 more per box of 25 to reload with used shells than it was to go to Wal-Mart and buy the Federal multi-purpose amo pack of 100. That wasn't even counting the cost of the loader. Just materials.

Most times, friends of mine and I would just keep a watch on the ads and then go stock up.
I want the capability, not the savings.

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How would a Ruger Mini-14 Tactical stack up against any of the M4's as far as reliability, ability to chew thru a wide range of ammo quality, and overall durability?

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How would a Ruger Mini-14 Tactical stack up against any of the M4's as far as reliability, ability to chew thru a wide range of ammo quality, and overall durability?

http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14/index.html
I've been seeing a lot of reviews on the lwrc m6a2 being able to eat the steel cased wolf ammo with no problems. If you can find the same of a mini -14 I'd say it's not a bad get for 1k less. I'm sure Meister has more info than I of course.

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How would a Ruger Mini-14 Tactical stack up against any of the M4's as far as reliability, ability to chew thru a wide range of ammo quality, and overall durability?

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Ruger has 3 issues. 1 it's not very accurate, Softball sized groups at 100. 2 Mag changes are slower than an AR. 3 it can slam fire with an open bolt.

It's a a good sound rifle that will feed anything available. Great gun to throw in the truck for a rainy day. It will only feed Ruger mags reliably. Since old man ruger died, they have started making 30 rounders again.

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Ruger has 3 issues. 1 it's not very accurate, Softball sized groups at 100. 2 Mag changes are slower than an AR. 3 it can slam fire with an open bolt.

It's a a good sound rifle that will feed anything available. Great gun to throw in the truck for a rainy day. It will only feed Ruger mags reliably. Since old man ruger died, they have started making 30 rounders again.
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the mini-14 was a consideration of mine while looking for a backpacking rifle. i ended up going with a keltec su-16c with a red dot sight (no zoom) on it. 30 rd mags. baseball size groups at 200 yrds shooting off the built in bipod. i haven't had a jam yet, but i've only gone through 200 rds and lubed it once when i first bought it. so far i think it's pretty solid and for the price i picked it up for, no complaints at all other than the bipod legs are still a bitch to get undone.
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