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post #21 of 31 (permalink) Old 12-24-2012, 07:38 PM Thread Starter
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I remember my Dad telling me about being involved in a crash with a B24 Liberator. I was young at the time and vaguely remembered some of the details. Eight years after his passing, I went on a search and hit pay dirt. I finally found what I was looking for and it had first person accounts from all crew members and assorted pictures. A lot of information from the participants and the higher up brass. The plane is toast but all survived. The jist of what happened was "dirty air" or as he called it, prop wash. She came in hard and I wouldn't want to have been in the nose or belly with all that was about to happen. In my fledgling radio control career, it's called a bad landing. Here are the crappy scans of the wreckage.




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I don't see how any of them made through.
That wreck happened just a few months before the crew was shipped overseas. It was a little taste of what was in store except you had people shooting at you. It's bad enough having FW-190's & ME-109's attacking the formations. On two of his missions, they had to deal with ME-262 jets. One hundred miles an hour faster than our best fighter and loaded up with cannons. He got a crack at them but didn't get a kill. One of the gunners in the group did get one.

I forgot to mention about the group picture above that it was his original crew that had their first mission together. My Dad is the blonde standing 4th from the left. The pilot and co-pilot are sitting on the left. My Mom called them Clark Gable & Cary Grant by their looks. The crew called the pilot Pappy because he was old at 25 yrs compared to their youthful 19 years of age. The guy who wore the dark clothes and hat died on his fifth mission. He signed up with another crew for a mission so he could get his tour of duty done earlier. Their plane crashed soon after takeoff. The pilot avoided a farm house and they wrecked in the adjoining field. All ten of the crew were killed. I've corresponded with a member of his family and he has told me that the farmers plow keeps turning up bits and pieces of the wreckage to this day. He has donated his Uncle's letters to a museum in the U.K. I do not know why he was dressed different than the rest of the crew for that photo but my Mom always told me that my Dad was superstitious about it at the time. Strange things for sure! Part of my Dad's mementos is a silver certificate (1$ bill for the youngins' ) that has all the crew members signatures. I did get in contact with the replacement navigator a few years ago and had a nice talk over the phone. I was going to send him a Christmas gift out of the blue a few years ago but learned of his passing from a letter I received. He sounded so chipper and sharp on the phone and had a nice southern accent. He was living in Mobile, Alabama.

Some day I will get over to the U.K. and visit some of the areas he talked about. The airfield is still in use but downsized to a civilian field. There is a memorial there for the 453rd Bomber Group. A couple of things he mentioned about was taking bike rides to town while on leave. I have pictures of the guys in town but do not know the locations. I'm assuming Norfolk but not quite sure. He also talked about how beautiful Ireland looked from overhead along with seeing the white cliffs of Dover after a mission meant you were safe and sound. My Mom told me that he couldn't swim at all and all the times he flew over the English Channel made her nervous to go along with what they threw at you in the air.

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That wreck happened just a few months before the crew was shipped overseas. It was a little taste of what was in store except you had people shooting at you. It's bad enough having FW-190's & ME-109's attacking the formations. On two of his missions, they had to deal with ME-262 jets. One hundred miles an hour faster than our best fighter and loaded up with cannons. He got a crack at them but didn't get a kill. One of the gunners in the group did get one.

I forgot to mention about the group picture above that it was his original crew that had their first mission together. My Dad is the blonde standing 4th from the left. The pilot and co-pilot are sitting on the left. My Mom called them Clark Gable & Cary Grant by their looks. The crew called the pilot Pappy because he was old at 25 yrs compared to their youthful 19 years of age. The guy who wore the dark clothes and hat died on his fifth mission. He signed up with another crew for a mission so he could get his tour of duty done earlier. Their plane crashed soon after takeoff. The pilot avoided a farm house and they wrecked in the adjoining field. All ten of the crew were killed. I've corresponded with a member of his family and he has told me that the farmers plow keeps turning up bits and pieces of the wreckage to this day. He has donated his Uncle's letters to a museum in the U.K. I do not know why he was dressed different than the rest of the crew for that photo but my Mom always told me that my Dad was superstitious about it at the time. Strange things for sure! Part of my Dad's mementos is a silver certificate (1$ bill for the youngins' ) that has all the crew members signatures. I did get in contact with the replacement navigator a few years ago and had a nice talk over the phone. I was going to send him a Christmas gift out of the blue a few years ago but learned of his passing from a letter I received. He sounded so chipper and sharp on the phone and had a nice southern accent. He was living in Mobile, Alabama.

Some day I will get over to the U.K. and visit some of the areas he talked about. The airfield is still in use but downsized to a civilian field. There is a memorial there for the 453rd Bomber Group. A couple of things he mentioned about was taking bike rides to town while on leave. I have pictures of the guys in town but do not know the locations. I'm assuming Norfolk but not quite sure. He also talked about how beautiful Ireland looked from overhead along with seeing the white cliffs of Dover after a mission meant you were safe and sound. My Mom told me that he couldn't swim at all and all the times he flew over the English Channel made her nervous to go along with what they threw at you in the air.
My pop's got the opportunity one day to shoot down an ME-109 that was strafing CCA column that was paralleling there column on another road about a half mile south of them. the planes would make a run down the other column and bank around over pop's he was on his Browning .50 and as they would fly past he would pour it on them, and on the second pass he flamed the Me-109 and brought it down. (No Chute) That took place in France around Vire.

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My pop's got the opportunity one day to shoot down an ME-109 that was strafing CCA column that was paralleling there column on another road about a half mile south of them. the planes would make a run down the other column and bank around over pop's he was on his Browning .50 and as they would fly past he would pour it on them, and on the second pass he flamed the Me-109 and brought it down. (No Chute) That took place in France around Vire.
Good for him. That must have been a sight to see.

I'm sure you've seen some of them but the Military Channel has been running a lot of WWII stuff this evening. They just had a lengthy segment on The Battle of the Bulge. I think they run them a couple of times throughout the day so you will have a chance to catch it. You never know but the face on the screen might be a familiar one.

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Good for him. That must have been a sight to see.

I'm sure you've seen some of them but the Military Channel has been running a lot of WWII stuff this evening. They just had a lengthy segment on The Battle of the Bulge. I think they run them a couple of times throughout the day so you will have a chance to catch it. You never know but the face on the screen might be a familiar one.
I love the series! He got some recognition for that shot. They almost got him as well, I guess they didn't like getting shot at He has always been a great shot with what ever he used.

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I love the series! He got some recognition for that shot. They almost got him as well, I guess they didn't like getting shot at He has always been a great shot with what ever he used.
Those Krauts took it so personally.

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