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post #1 of 111 (permalink) Old 03-29-2017, 04:48 PM Thread Starter
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My 15 R1 engine blew with 2888 miles!

I've tried searching for this topic on here and it seems pretty rare so I thought I'd share and maybe some folks will chime in.

I've got a 2015 w. 2888 miles and last weekend the engine popped in her. It happened on the street under hard acceleration in 3rd gear, pretty constant engine load.

She was pulling hard as she always does, then I felt a sudden loss of power and that noise of ball bearings being rattled in a tin can, as I slowed a cloud of smoke caught up with me. I shut it off immediately. When I took it home and quickly opened the drain plug below is what I saw. Got it at the dealer now and they are going through it with Yamaha... I'm curious as to what caused this and what action Yamaha will take to rectify this.

This bike had the transmission recall done prior to me picking it up.

Anyone else had this experience? Or hear of something like this happening?
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post #2 of 111 (permalink) Old 03-29-2017, 04:51 PM
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I have 2000 miles and 2 track days on mine.....Kinda scary - let us know what you hear from the dealer/Yamaha.

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Scary indeed. But mostly disappointing.
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post #5 of 111 (permalink) Old 03-29-2017, 06:41 PM
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Recall completed then sudden engine destruction...anyone else figure this puzzle out? Shame bro for your loss...

PS I'm never getting the recall done
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post #6 of 111 (permalink) Old 03-29-2017, 06:45 PM
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If the bike is still on full warranty. They must replace the engine with a brand new one. I would assume so!
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Sorry about your bike. Glad your ok though. Now to those that dont wanna have the recall done due to chance of issues down the line, find yourself a good shop and have it done.

If you have the right shop, the bike will be put together better than factory....
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post #9 of 111 (permalink) Old 03-30-2017, 05:54 AM
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The tech and I at the dealership put the bike in every gear and it moved so nothing is locked up in the drivetrain, plus when it happened I don't recall it feeling like the rear wheel locked up, I decelerated in a smooth controlled manner. I'm fairly certain transmission can be ruled out.

Does anyone know which parts of the engine assembly are NOT magnetic on this motor? The tech mentioned something about that, not sure if there is any truth to it. The bits on the drain plug are magnetic. I though everything in the engine assembly was magnetic.

I'm just trying to rule things out in my head, the curiosity is killing me... The tech that's qualified to work on 15+ R1 isn't back until next week at this dealership so they haven't cracked it open yet.
The bearings and pistons are probably an aluminum alloy and won't be magnetic, as well as the titanium connecting rods.
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post #10 of 111 (permalink) Old 03-30-2017, 07:46 AM Thread Starter
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The bearings and pistons are probably an aluminum alloy and won't be magnetic, as well as the titanium connecting rods.
Hmm, maybe crank shaft or valve train, although I'd be surprised if something all the way up from the valvetrain would make it all the way down to the drain plug that quickly, which leaves us with the crank........ anyway, all conjecture and guess work at this point, won't know until they open it up later this week and examine the carnage.
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Sudden? It happened almost 3000 miles later. The recall and this blown motor are not connected. No way no how. I had my recall done and I've got over 6000 miles on mine. No problems what so ever. Feel free to continue with your moronic thoughts.
Ahhh I misread the OP. He said the transmission recall was completed prior to being picked up and I thought he meant that day not 3000 miles prior. My bad.

However if you think that the recall was done successfully just because it lasted 3000 or 6000 miles think again...

My guess is that sealant got into some oil passages and a few thousand miles later Boom.

You can call me names but I know engines and rebuilds. And if you trust every mechanic that works at a dealer then well you know
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Ahhh I misread the OP. He said the transmission recall was completed prior to being picked up and I thought he meant that day not 3000 miles prior. My bad.

However if you think that the recall was done successfully just because it lasted 3000 or 6000 miles think again...

My guess is that sealant got into some oil passages and a few thousand miles later Boom.

You can call me names but I know engines and rebuilds. And if you trust every mechanic that works at a dealer then well you know
Either that, or a foreign object was left in the case after reassembly. Curious as well to see what they find after opening her up.
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yeah to say no way no how is a bold statement and far from the truth imo. We have a ram as a shop truck and theres a clip thats put in during assembly and if youre lucky it doesnt come loose, if you're semi lucky it comes loose and grenades your tranny within warranty and if youre unlucky it comes loose and grenades your tranny shortly after warranty expires(happened to a guy who was a couple thousand kms past warranty)

To also say you wont get the recall done because of a couple problem bikes is also pretty ridiculous. Engines blow in all brands and for various reasons.

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The recall work and this could definitely be related 3000 miles later.


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Yamaha will do nothing, but send you in circles and in the end tell you that it was your fault and nothing they can do. Personal experience over 2 years dealing with them. Get a lawyer and don't talk to Yamaha much and the dealer. What you have told them already and what they have is all you need to say.

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post #16 of 111 (permalink) Old 03-31-2017, 11:21 PM
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Just out of curiosity, say they repair everything from warranty, will the dealer repair top-end, bottom end, crank, etc.. Whatever needs fixing, or will they give you a whole engine new from factory?
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i have heard of valve issues on a couple bikes they updated the head design for some reason i suspect maybe related. sounds a bit like it dropped a valve. that would explain the rock tumbler noise and how oil is getting into the the combustion chamber to make the smoke cloud and the loss of power. until they pull it apart though its all speculation. i thought it was second gear that was having the issue though and while shifting was breaking it i didn't know third was an issue as well. also a gear breaking shouldn't be putting smoke into the chamber so it sounds like it isn't likely to be the issue

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Yamaha will do nothing, but send you in circles and in the end tell you that it was your fault and nothing they can do. Personal experience over 2 years dealing with them. Get a lawyer and don't talk to Yamaha much and the dealer. What you have told them already and what they have is all you need to say.

Trans gear and shift fork are hard alloy that will stick to a magnet
That makes me sad... if true. But I guess I should be prepared for the worst.

This will be my fist and last Yamaha if that's how this plays out.
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Yamaha will do nothing, but send you in circles and in the end tell you that it was your fault and nothing they can do. Personal experience over 2 years dealing with them. Get a lawyer and don't talk to Yamaha much and the dealer. What you have told them already and what they have is all you need to say.

Trans gear and shift fork are hard alloy that will stick to a magnet
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i have heard of valve issues on a couple bikes they updated the head design for some reason i suspect maybe related. sounds a bit like it dropped a valve. that would explain the rock tumbler noise and how oil is getting into the the combustion chamber to make the smoke cloud and the loss of power. until they pull it apart though its all speculation. i thought it was second gear that was having the issue though and while shifting was breaking it i didn't know third was an issue as well. also a gear breaking shouldn't be putting smoke into the chamber so it sounds like it isn't likely to be the issue
Good point, I'm 99% sure it would not be the trans, as that would not send a cloud of smoke into the air... just lock up the drive train.

That's not to say the warranty work to replace the trans didn't lead to this issue though... as someone else said, a tech not installing the gear assembly properly, sealant got into the oil passages, boom.
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Whoever did the recall work probably half assed it when putting everything back together like a lot of the stories you see on here regarding the 2015's.
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