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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-08-2004, 11:00 PM Thread Starter
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Remote start help, '04 R1

I'm almost done installing this alarm plus remote start, I just can't get the remote start to work. I think it has something to do with the last wire, it says "Blue wire to starter wire". Now, I tried tying in the Blue wire to the blue/white wire that feeds to the starter switch, but it's not working. Everything else seems to work, I hit the button to attempt remote start, the insturment cluster comes on, but the bike does not attempt to crank. Any Ideas???? alarm and ignition kill portion work fine.
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It sounds like the way you wired it to the wire to the starter switch, the circuit is not closed unless the switch is depressed, so the remote starter feature is defeated. try attaching it to the starter wire at the other side of the switch.

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It sounds like the way you wired it to the wire to the starter switch, the circuit is not closed unless the switch is depressed, so the remote starter feature is defeated. try attaching it to the starter wire at the other side of the switch.
tried that first, didn't work either.
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not sure how the stater kill works but you may be on the wrong side of that connection. if the remote start doesnt actualy deactiviate the starter kill, then that would be the problem. does the crank wire run through the alarm in any way? if so try and hook the blue wire somewere between the starter and the spot you connected the starter kill to. a thing to try is to proble that blue wire and use the remote start and see if it actualy gets 12V as if its trying to crank the bike. If not, you may have a problem with the remote starter.
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not sure how the stater kill works but you may be on the wrong side of that connection. if the remote start doesnt actualy deactiviate the starter kill, then that would be the problem. does the crank wire run through the alarm in any way? if so try and hook the blue wire somewere between the starter and the spot you connected the starter kill to. a thing to try is to proble that blue wire and use the remote start and see if it actualy gets 12V as if its trying to crank the bike. If not, you may have a problem with the remote starter.
Something probably went wrong with the remote starter like you said. At first when I tried to use remote start I would get a quick jolt of 12v on the blue wire with the meter, but I get nothing. However, when I was getting voltage, it didn't work then either.

Somthing else odd, maybe someone can explain. When I hit the remote start, even if the blue wire is not attached, the instument cluster comes on and I have power to the normal starter switch, if I hit the starter button manually, it will crank, but won't start. This can possibly be engine kill thru the alarm?? I don't know, this is frustrating.

I was hoping to find someone else with an '04 R1 that successfully got it to work so I can be told exactly what to do. Maybe something different on this bike that prevents it from working this way.
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there may be more than one wire in the run position. im not sure about bikes, never did one on a bike but did it on a tone of cars. 1st thing to try, i doubt it but, put the key in the ignition. dont think US spec bikes have a transponder like UK's. but hey, give it a shot. also, do here the fuel pump? what did your starter kill actualy wire to? PCM? if so that could kill anything, spark, fuel, anything...do you still have 12V to that blue wire? give this a shot. probe the crank wire and hit it. is it a 12v+ switch or a ground? it may be a ground switch which would be why your remote starter now no longer sends 12V . if it is 12V+ when you hit the starter button, find out wich one is 12V+ when you are in the run position and which one has nothing. then hit the switch and make sure the other one is 12V+. hook the blue wire to that if the blue wire is still giving a 12V+ when activated. try it with the alarm off first. one thing at a time.
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I had this remote start on my o2 r1 it requiered 2 relays one to turn the starter over and one to trip the fuel pump it was quite difficult to install on my r1 but easy as hell ro install on my buddy's gsxr.
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oh yea forgot to mention be sure to install the side stand kill function if not the bike will start in gear and jump off the side stand.
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I had this remote start on my o2 r1 it requiered 2 relays one to turn the starter over and one to trip the fuel pump it was quite difficult to install on my r1 but easy as hell ro install on my buddy's gsxr.
good tip. listen for the fuel pump when you use the starter. a note for any remote start, any wire that is hot 12v when the key is in the run position needs to be hot with the remote starter. check the wires behind the key cyl harnis.
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oh yea forgot to mention be sure to install the side stand kill function if not the bike will start in gear and jump off the side stand.

That would so not be cool if that was the case. I also have an alarm system for my 01 R1 and I think I will just have the dealer install it. I don't feel to comfortable in those wires.

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What alarms are out there that have the remote start option?

I bought a used one that the sell at tricktape.com

Too many wires to hook up and no alarm shop would touch it.
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What alarms are out there that have the remote start option?

I bought a used one that the sell at tricktape.com

Too many wires to hook up and no alarm shop would touch it.
I think all the Thor alarms have remote start. I got model M302 for $40 on ebay
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IMMOBILIZER!!!!!! the key contains a chip, it cant start without it! you will have to disable the immobilizer function to get remote start to work!,,,
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i don't think so dude
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