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Wonder if Ducati will have to change frame geometry for Lorenzo...

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Wonder if Ducati will have to change frame geometry for Lorenzo...
I think Ducati will be too busy trying to sort out their bike "minus wings". They may have to detune their engine quite a bit just to keep the front end down?
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Am I the only one who thinks Lorenzo may actually do alright on the Poocati?.

Given the guy is an absolute toss but he sure can ride the wheels off a motorcycle[when it's not raining].
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Am I the only one who thinks Lorenzo may actually do alright on the Poocati?.

Given the guy is an absolute toss but he sure can ride the wheels off a motorcycle[when it's not raining].
MotoGP News - MotoGP Valencia: Rossi: Stupid to forget Lorenzo, Ducati for 2017 title

No.

Seriously, I don't think he's going to come out and just light the track up, but there's no way he won't be competitive. He's a damned good rider when all the conditions are near-perfect. The bike they've got now is a goddamned missile, which TBH won't suit Jorge's style, but maybe they can adapt one or the other (the bike or his style)

It's all a matter of how Ducati will cope with no winglets, IMO.
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Am I the only one who thinks Lorenzo may actually do alright on the Poocati?.



Given the guy is an absolute toss but he sure can ride the wheels off a motorcycle[when it's not raining].

No, I said when it was first announced that Lorenzo will probably not miss much of a beat when he jumps on the Duc. Now that Audi is actually engineering their bike and making vast improvements, they are going to make that a top flite bike, no question about it. Lorenzo timed this just right, IMO, now that Rossi convinced them their bike was sheot and they have been improving it ever since....and the riders they have now are equal for the quality of the bike IMO. Now that the bike is going to (they hope) up the ante into what they hope is a championship caliber bike, Lorenzo is a huge score for them and IMO will tear it up on that bike. Maybe not set the world on fire in year 1, but will definitely be a threat for wins. I don't see the doom and gloom that, IMO, is a carryover from the Rossi era there. Totally different bike now, totally different company and totally different engineering. It will be very interesting to see what Stoner does on it in testing and what his reports are. This is the most exciting off-season project going on.
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MotoGP News - MotoGP Valencia: Rossi: Stupid to forget Lorenzo, Ducati for 2017 title

No.

Seriously, I don't think he's going to come out and just light the track up, but there's no way he won't be competitive. He's a damned good rider when all the conditions are near-perfect. The bike they've got now is a goddamned missile, which TBH won't suit Jorge's style, but maybe they can adapt one or the other (the bike or his style)

It's all a matter of how Ducati will cope with no winglets, IMO.

I think it's a 70/30 shot that Lorenzo could kill the field at first race of the season next year. If Duc can keep their straight line speed advantage AND up its cornering performance, he and Duc could very well make it look like the first year of the 800's at that race.

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JLo and everyone at Duc will need to thank Rossi for telling them they needed to get their chit together and start making changes to that bike!!

I do believe JLo will be a threat right from the start. Especially if Yam, Suz, Hon, don't get their power up to par with the Ducs.

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I think Ducati will be too busy trying to sort out their bike "minus wings". They may have to detune their engine quite a bit just to keep the front end down?
Yes. We all see what crazy acceleration does to the Honda.......


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I'm quite looking forward to how Lorenzo will do on the Ducati. It's a fast bike, but not really suited to his riding style.
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Official testing times as of the end of the morning:

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1. Rossi, Valentino ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 30.950s
2. Iannone, Andrea ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 31.165s +0.215s
3. Viñales, Maverick SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 31.234s +0.284s
4. Marquez, Marc SPA Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.289s +0.339s
5. Pedrosa, Dani SPA Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.320s +0.370s
6. Miller, Jack AUS Estrella Galica 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 31.477s +0.527s
7. Lorenzo, Jorge SPA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 31.575s +0.625s
8. Crutchlow, Cal GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 31.603s +0.653s
9. Redding, Scott GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15/16) 1m 31.668s +0.718s
10. Pirro, Michele ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP16/17) 1m 32.068s +1.118s
11. Espargaro, Aleix SPA Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 32.177s +1.227s
12. Dovizioso, Andrea ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16/17) 1m 32.219s +1.269s
13. Barbera, Hector SPA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2/16) 1m 32.321s +1.371s
14. Rabat, Tito GBR Estrella Galica 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 32.578s +1.628s
15. Espargaro, Pol SPA KTM MotoGP Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 33.088s +2.138s
16. Bautista, Alvaro SPA Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 33.156s +2.206s
17. Baz, Loris FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 33.251s +2.301s
18. Folger, Jonas GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 33.317s +2.367s
19. Zarco, Johann FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 33.511s +2.561s
20. Laverty, Eugene IRL Aprilia Test Rider (RS-GP) 1m 33.800s +2.850s
21. Rins, Alex SPA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 33.978s +3.028s
22. Lowes, Sam GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 33.987s +3.037s
23. Tsuda, Takuya JPN Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR) 1m 34.110s +3.160s
24. Abraham, Karel CZE Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP14.2/15) 1m 34.436s +3.486s
25. Smith, Bradley GBR KTM MotoGP Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 34.496s +3.546s
26. Bagnaia, Francesco ITA Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 36.940s +5.990s
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Wow, vinales beats rossi at the end of the first day and Lorenzo is definitely looking dangerous on the Ducati:

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1. Viñales, Maverick SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 30.930s
2. Rossi, Valentino ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 30.950s +0.020s
3. Lorenzo, Jorge SPA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 31.052s +0.122s
4. Marquez, Marc SPA Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.102s +0.172s
5. Dovizioso, Andrea ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16/17) 1m 31.131s +0.201s
6. Crutchlow, Cal GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 31.156s +0.226s
7. Iannone, Andrea ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 31.165s +0.235s
8. Redding, Scott GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15/16) 1m 31.242s +0.312s
9. Barbera, Hector SPA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2/16) 1m 31.286s +0.356s
10. Pedrosa, Dani SPA Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.306s +0.376s
11. Miller, Jack AUS Estrella Galica 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 31.477s +0.547s
12. Bautista, Alvaro SPA Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 31.674s +0.744s
13. Pirro, Michele ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP16/17) 1m 32.068s +1.138s
14. Espargaro, Aleix SPA Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 32.177s +1.247s
15. Baz, Loris FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 32.315s +1.385s
16. Folger, Jonas GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 32.450s +1.520s
17. Zarco, Johann FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 32.462s +1.532s
18. Rabat, Tito GBR Estrella Galica 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 32.578s +1.648s
19. Espargaro, Pol SPA KTM MotoGP Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 32.613s +1.683s
20. Smith, Bradley GBR KTM MotoGP Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 32.806s +1.876s
21. Rins, Alex SPA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 32.811s +1.881s
22. Laverty, Eugene IRL Aprilia Test Rider (RS-GP) 1m 32.935s +2.005s
23. Abraham, Karel CZE Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP14.2/15) 1m 33.231s +2.301s
24. Lowes, Sam GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 33.359s +2.429s
25. Tsuda, Takuya JPN Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR) 1m 34.110s +3.180s
26. Bagnaia, Francesco ITA Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 36.940s +6.010s
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