05' R1 - 180hp my ass

Sounds good, I'll take the shirt. No, Dave doesn't go to Hooters. It's got sharkskinz bodywork that he never painted with a carbon tank. It's by far the fastest R1 around. It runs 193-195 in less than a mile.

Originally posted by GSX Sounds good, I'll take the shirt. No, Dave doesn't go to Hooters. It's got sharkskinz bodywork that he never painted with a carbon tank. It's by far the fastest R1 around. It runs 193-195 in less than a mile. well give me a call tomorrow arounf 9am or so.. I will be heading back through West palm from Ft lauderdale so i can bring it with me and hand it off to ya somewhere 772 475-4224...oh my name is Trevor

Originally posted by kangaroo a little late to this but the engine isn't the issue. It is the gearing. You want a torque/wheelie monster, then change counter sprocket and sprocket. Somew guy is selling his if I read correctly and he is going back to stock. The downside will be when you take it to the track or the hills. It will be a little harder to control. In my opinion, I think Yamaha designed the bike to be a track/canyon bike and not a stunter. :thumbup Yes, that is correct. The bike was built for superstock rules. There are a host of things that can not be changed, so they designed the bike to perform under those parameters. Easy thing to do if you aren't happy with it is change the gearing, and a few aftermarket mods. If you want to get difficult, you can go into custom camshafts, heads, ignition mapping etc. But for out of the box, they met the rules. For what it's worth, I just did my first (accidental) 6th gear wheelie. Now mind you, I consider a wheelie when my front leaves the ground. Not typically a condition I'm looking for. But I just had the bike pull the front wheel off the ground in the 5 to 6 gear shift while passing a long row of vehicles (I refrain from stating speed, because... honestly... I didn't look at the numbers, but I saw the shift light). I thought I had that tuned out of my suspension, but I guess not. Have to double check my static sag and maybe add a couple of clicks of compression damping in the rear. I've been thinking that anyway. But.... to have a problem not getting the front wheel off the ground.... I don't think that's the bike. Certainly, it doesn't have the torque of the bikes that have a different bore/stroke. But it ISN'T lacking power (at least not mine).

dont sound like a prob with the bike think yer just chasein the wheelie with the power , my mate got mine in a stand up at about 20mph he says its about getin it on the balence point yer dont need any power then but he recons the balence point is real high and real narrow on the R1 compared to the k5 gsxr

Originally posted by red05rider I guess me and u is runnin homie! teach that suzuki a lesson! :2bitchsla Are you going to be ready this sunday??

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I've had my '05 R1 for amout a month now after trading my '04 R6. To date I've logged about 600 on the ODO, and I couldn't agree with you more. Since day one I was very disappointed with the lack of power, espescially after reading all of the hoo-ha claims of 180hp. I could do and did 2nd gear stand-ups at about 60 all the time. I'm gonna try a bigger sprocket on the rear since first gear doesn't even feel strong until about 65 and yesterday I took it to redline in first and saw 103 on the speedo. Why did they gear this this thing so tall? I this sprocket chg will deliver the power that I shelled out the big bucks for. At least I have the coolest looking and most comfortable bike. -Kirk

Originally posted by venomvenom I've had my '05 R1 for amout a month now after trading my '04 R6. To date I've logged about 600 on the ODO, and I couldn't agree with you more. Since day one I was very disappointed with the lack of power, espescially after reading all of the hoo-ha claims of 180hp. I could do and did 2nd gear stand-ups at about 60 all the time. I'm gonna try a bigger sprocket on the rear since first gear doesn't even feel strong until about 65 and yesterday I took it to redline in first and saw 103 on the speedo. Why did they gear this this thing so tall? I this sprocket chg will deliver the power that I shelled out the big bucks for. At least I have the coolest looking and most comfortable bike. -Kirk It's designed for the track...not to stunt. that's why its geared the way it is....

Originally posted by Sabian It's designed for the track...not to stunt. that's why its geared the way it is.... Stop wasting your time they're just not going to get it :bash. If you pooor kids can't wheelie on it dowgrade and get a gixxer!!

Originally posted by Blaze83 Stop wasting your time they're just not going to get it :bash. If you pooor kids can't wheelie on it dowgrade and get a gixxer!! Its just frustrating...

Originally posted by c4am95 I've had my 05' R1 for about 3 months now, putting nearly 6k miles on it so far. One thing that's bothered me since day one on my bike, I couldn't help but think "this doesn't feel like 180hp worth of power". I notice this mostly when trying to do 2nd gear sit downs, I have to be going about 80-85 to get the thing off the ground. My friends all kept saying "It's your technique, let me ride it and I'll pop that bitch up". Well, I had the chance to do just that, I swapped with a buddy of mine who rides an 05' GSXR-1000. Lets just say, he wasn't doing any 2nd gear sit downs that night. He did a couple nice stand ups, but he had to bounce it at about 70mph. The GSXR has so much more torque than the R1, it just felt so much faster. A sit down will come up easy at 60-65mph on that bike. The power of the bike actually intimidated me through 1st and second gear. Getting on the highway, I'll usually put my R1 full throttle to the red through 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Not on the GSXR, I didn't even want to bring it past 10k (not being used to the bike, and it not being mine, I had to be careful). Anyways, 180hp my ass! I'm going to re-gear +1/-1 and see if that helps. I don't know what your problem is but when I'm wot in first running away from whoever I'm riding with, that top end kick that lifts the tire and requires you to modulate the throttle in the first two gears and sometimes third is GREAT.

I've got some fourth and fifth gear power only sit down wheelie video from when I first got my 05. Stock gearing, graves pipe and PC3usb only. Anybody wanna host it? It's short and to the point--about 2megs.

Originally posted by Sabian It's designed for the track...not to stunt. that's why its geared the way it is.... Well it's good to hear someone agree with me. Anyhow, I don't have to worry about the problem anymore seeing as my R1 was stolen 7 days ago. Bike theft in San Dieg is quite amazing, they took it right in the middle of the afternoon in a busy parking lot. Somehow burned the lock off, disable the alarm and bye bye R1. Insurance is a wonderful thing.

The stupid thing pasted the wrong quote, it was supposed to be Sabians quote.

To all those people talking about how the R1 is "geared for the track", maybe you're right, but why then would the other other manufacturers (Suz., Kaw., & Honda) gear their big bikes so show off their power? Weren't they all intended to perform similarly, & designed to fill similar functional roles. Just trying to understand......

Originally posted by Sabian Its just frustrating... I hear ya on this one. It is frustrating. You idiots that buy these bikes to stunt are just that, IDIOTS. If you want to do stoppies, wheelies and backflips then buy a damn trials bike not a liter sport bike. If you want low end torque then buy a thumper or a V-Twin not an inline 4. You kids and squids just will never get it will you. The R1 is one of finest track bikes built. Smooth, predictable and stable. What more could you ask for at a mere $10k.

Originally posted by venomvenom To all those people talking about how the R1 is "geared for the track", maybe you're right, but why then would the other other manufacturers (Suz., Kaw., & Honda) gear their big bikes so show off their power? Weren't they all intended to perform similarly, & designed to fill similar functional roles. Just trying to understand...... ..so that people like you can ask that question and then go buy one to beat in the tank and do high chairs on. Have fun...dont' forget to wear your shorts and sunglasses so the ladies think you are hot.

my 04R1 does the best wheelies at stock gearing its geared perfect for making the pass while they are looking for 2nd then doing wheelies in front of them while they try to catch up.. imho those are the most enjoyable wheelies

Originally posted by c4am95 I've had my 05' R1 for about 3 months now, putting nearly 6k miles on it so far. One thing that's bothered me since day one on my bike, I couldn't help but think "this doesn't feel like 180hp worth of power". I notice this mostly when trying to do 2nd gear sit downs, I have to be going about 80-85 to get the thing off the ground. My friends all kept saying "It's your technique, let me ride it and I'll pop that bitch up". Well, I had the chance to do just that, I swapped with a buddy of mine who rides an 05' GSXR-1000. Lets just say, he wasn't doing any 2nd gear sit downs that night. He did a couple nice stand ups, but he had to bounce it at about 70mph. The GSXR has so much more torque than the R1, it just felt so much faster. A sit down will come up easy at 60-65mph on that bike. The power of the bike actually intimidated me through 1st and second gear. Getting on the highway, I'll usually put my R1 full throttle to the red through 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Not on the GSXR, I didn't even want to bring it past 10k (not being used to the bike, and it not being mine, I had to be careful). Anyways, 180hp my ass! I'm going to re-gear +1/-1 and see if that helps. Go back to the dealer and tell them you want a refund because you can't wheelie it! lmao Originally posted by Minacious What you are experiencing has nothing to do with the power. It is because of the way the R1 is geared and the fact that is doesn't make its true power in the lower rpm range. Wheelies in second are also very possible if done right. I agree, I don't even do wheelies or ride them out and I can still bring the front up 2nd gear off the power, and clutch it up nice and high in second. Not to mention bring it up even in third. The R1 gearing won't make it an out of the box stunt bike, in fact Suzuki has always been better to stunt than the R1s anyhow. Originally posted by c4am95 I'm well aware that the 180hp is not at the wheel, I'd be surprised if it was even putting 150 to the wheel. Regardless, Yam uses the whole 180hp as a huge selling bit. HP is just a mathimatical calculation designed to sell vehciles, so with tha tsaid what did you expect? lol

I love both, Drag racing and stunting "Gixxer"....................Tracks "The One" http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130563

my best friend has a gsxr and he tells me my 05 r1 wheelies better in 1st 2nd and 3rd now he is going to get 1 if u cant weele it sick w/zooma scooters

remember that all the bikes have a different gear ratio than the r1...Not that the r1 is slower just a little weak in the gearing department...After 8000 rpm all other bikes OWNED!!!!!!!!!!

R1 = Not enough power for the street That's an equation I just can't comprehend. :no Perhaps, Yamaha should start selling Rossi's 'beaters' for street use. Even then, I fear that there would be those that would clamor for more HP and Torque. :bow I thought it was all about riding safe and having a little fun. Obviously, I'm still a noob too. :riding

Hi there! I drive a 2005 R1 Some thoughts on the R1 vs Gixer K5, the K5 will be very light in front because the wheelbase is shorter than the R1's, the engine is also mounted higher up which makes it top heavy(like a person sitting straight up compared to lying on the tank), this all with the 10NM of more torque makes the bike wheely a lot easier. I took on a buddy of mine with a K5, he only came past me at 280km/h and he had a racing filter in. I took out the CAT and replaced the standard air filter with a BMC, now a K5 doesn't even come close! Regards Gillmer (from South Africa)

everybody has there favorite But remember the bike is only as fast or slow as the skill of the rider