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extrakt0r
01-02-2006, 03:27 PM
LOL...

How to get cut-off on the Race Track not ONCE, but TWICE and not tuck the front like the dude in this thread...

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148914



How to Get Cut-Off - Video (http://www.teamsimoneracing.com/tsr_videos/cutoff.wmv)

BlaziN R1
01-02-2006, 03:34 PM
I have this problem with my windows media player all the time. the video lags frames like crazy and its like a picture slide show. does anybody know a fix for this? do I need to download a different program like winamp? I have windows media player 10 and its the latest one and I still have this problem

BlaziN R1
01-02-2006, 03:39 PM
by the way..what happened in the first video?

Ponykiller
01-02-2006, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by BlaziN R1
I have this problem with my windows media player all the time. the video lags frames like crazy and its like a picture slide show. does anybody know a fix for this? do I need to download a different program like winamp? I have windows media player 10 and its the latest one and I still have this problem


Do you have a mac? I find that many times .wmv files won't play on my mac. It sucks.

Ponykiller
01-02-2006, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by extrakt0r
LOL...

How to get cut-off on the Race Track not ONCE, but TWICE and not tuck the front like the dude in this thread...

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148914



How to Get Cut-Off - Video (http://www.teamsimoneracing.com/tsr_videos/cutoff.wmv)



Holy crap Mike, that ass that cut you off is the same ass that ran me off the track coming out of turn 11 (for those of you that aren't familiar with Barber, turn 11 would be the first turn that he cut Mike off in). I had to run in the grass for a couple hundred feet because of that dick.

ryan5508
01-02-2006, 04:22 PM
ouch that sucks

Mizuno
01-02-2006, 04:40 PM
sucks.... good vid quality though. track looks awesome.

PowerJunkie
01-02-2006, 05:03 PM
Awesome looking track!!!

I have a different take on that vid though. If your looking to pass, it's your responsibility to do it safely and taking the inside of a turn just before the apex is not what I would consider the best spot. I don't think that guy cut him off, I think he was running his line. Also, on-board video like that leaves some illusions. I'll bet the rider with the camera knew that he was going to cut in on both corners, and backed off to avoid an accident.
Every org I've done track days with have 2 or 3 levels and each has everything to do with where you can and cant pass. Oh, and they also frown on wheelies.

That's my 3 beer take on things.

Shrike
01-02-2006, 05:24 PM
This guy seems to be just dumb and apologizes after the 2nd cut-off .. (the only one he noticed prolly)

Have wrecked also due to some ass like that, except the dude that ran me off did it on purpose. Afterwards he even found it amuzing i went down. :rant

My day will come. Some sort of Rossi/Gibernau trick :riding

R1formetoo
01-02-2006, 05:43 PM
It looked to me like those were legit straightaway passes and the guy re-took the position on corner entry. In my opinion that is only acceptable in a real race.

Ian
www.redlinestands.com

Eyespy
01-02-2006, 05:44 PM
It's the passing rider's responsibility to make a clean pass and stay out the the line of the bike being overtaked. If you are setting up for the pass, set it up and get past. shooting up the inside and taking away the line of the other rider is a sure way to risk causing a crash. I would likely have had a little talk with the video bile rider about safe passing strategies and passing etiquette.

pokey1
01-02-2006, 05:47 PM
I'm with PowerJunkie.
The guy on the Duc was taking the proper lines.
If you haven't made the pass before the apex, let him have it.
I've been to Barber twice.
Excellent track. :rock

extrakt0r
01-02-2006, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Eyespy
I would likely have had a little talk with the video bile rider about safe passing strategies and passing etiquette.

:confused:

I guess you just did, since I was the one who was trying to get around this rider...

I don't see were EITHER of us did anything wrong...

The guy simply can not hold a line...

Two different times I tried to pass him, saw that he could not take a proper line thru the Turn, so I waited until it was 100% safe to pass down the front straight...

Not worth risking in a Morning Pratice...Had it been a Race, I surely would have stuffed him the 2nd time and made him yeild... :fact

extrakt0r
01-02-2006, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by PowerJunkie
I don't think that guy cut him off, I think he was running his line. Also, on-board video like that leaves some illusions. I'll bet the rider with the camera knew that he was going to cut in on both corners, and backed off to avoid an accident.


You are correct...I knew he was, you can see me watching him in the reflection of the Cluster...

Dude could not hold a line... :fact

Not worth risking a "stuf" pass in Morning Pratice...

Eyespy
01-02-2006, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by extrakt0r
I guess you just did, since I was the one who was trying to get around this rider...

I don't see were EITHER of us did anything wrong...

The guy simply can not hold a line...

Two different times I tried to pass him, saw that he could not take a proper line thru the Turn, so I waited until it was 100% safe to pass down the front straight...

Not worth risking in a Morning Pratice...Had it been a Race, I surely would have stuffed him the 2nd time and made him yeild...

I meant in reference to a track day, not a race. If it were a race practice, i wouldn't likely say a word. :)

k61K
01-02-2006, 10:37 PM
Mike is right. This cat couldn't keep it planted. Look at the steering movements. ONE STEERING INPUT AND FORGET IT! Maintenace throttle and then roll on and twist it to the stops. He clearly doesn't know how to use the twin's powerband. I wouldn't even ride on the same track with someone that noobish.

Eyespy
01-02-2006, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by k61K
Mike is right. This cat couldn't keep it planted. Look at the steering movements. ONE STEERING INPUT AND FORGET IT! Maintenace throttle and then roll on and twist it to the stops. He clearly doesn't know how to use the twin's powerband. I wouldn't even ride on the same track with someone that noobish.

That's why we have instruction and different groups.

vcyclenut
01-03-2006, 05:44 AM
the guy obviously isnt smooth through the corner and its your responsability to pass clean in practice and track days axtrakter did the right thing and waited till the straight like he said though during a race , dont wait

thats the problem with waiting to last part of a braking zone to pass its much safer to get the pass done early in the breaking zone, but some guys make that very tuff and some times it doesnt come out that way

its easy to say now watching the vid but if after he cut you off in the first left you would of hung back at the entry of the next right so you wouldnt have to wait for him to start his drive out of the corner i bet you would have blew by him before the next corner

extrakt0r
01-03-2006, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Eyespy
I meant in reference to a track day, not a race. If it were a race practice, i wouldn't likely say a word. :)

:beer

JAYSTENSEC4CYL
01-08-2006, 08:22 PM
I just watched it twice. Looks to me like the guy on the duc is hitting the lines, and the r1 rider is not.

First time was nothing, second time the duc guy was pushing a bit, but in my opinion he was on the correct line.

If someone did that to me at a track day i would not give it another thought.

extrakt0r
01-08-2006, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by JAYSTENSEC4CYL
I just watched it twice. Looks to me like the guy on the duc is hitting the lines, and the r1 rider is not.



:confused: :lol

Ok man... :bash

KneeDragger77
01-08-2006, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by extrakt0r
:confused:

I guess you just did, since I was the one who was trying to get around this rider...

I don't see were EITHER of us did anything wrong...

The guy simply can not hold a line...

Two different times I tried to pass him, saw that he could not take a proper line thru the Turn, so I waited until it was 100% safe to pass down the front straight...

Not worth risking in a Morning Pratice...Had it been a Race, I surely would have stuffed him the 2nd time and made him yeild... :fact

Cool vid, nice track! Looks like you were moving nicely! That said, "the line" is relative to the riding style/the bike/what makes you feel good etc... Even at Motogp levels, riders take different lines around the same turn.

Looks like he was on a 748/916, thus the need to start wide/get on the gas early/straighten out the turn. Or, to put it simply:building momentum. With a literbike you can definitely exercise the point/shoot method. If you got on that 748 and rode the same lines you do with your R1, you'd wonder why the thing felt like it was going to stall/die coming out of each turn. :lol

I gotta get to Barber sometime:beer

JAYSTENSEC4CYL
01-09-2006, 08:52 PM
Not trying to be a smart ass here, but you should be trying to straighten out every turn on every bike.

I realize that bikes are different and some times require different lines.

That said after watching it , to me it looked like the duc was going where he wanted it to go, and the r1 was running in low, and often over shooting the apex a bit.

Not trying to bag on anyone, and I am not Rossie. Just telling you what I see.

If you want to see cut off I can show you a viedo of me at the track a few years back...lmao

JAYSTENSEC4CYL
01-09-2006, 08:58 PM
yea I forgot to mention, that track looks like a ton of fun. Super smooth. I would love to go sometime.

KneeDragger77
01-09-2006, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by JAYSTENSEC4CYL
Not trying to be a smart ass here, but you should be trying to straighten out every turn on every bike.

I realize that bikes are different and some times require different lines.

That said after watching it , to me it looked like the duc was going where he wanted it to go, and the r1 was running in low, and often over shooting the apex a bit.

Not trying to bag on anyone, and I am not Rossie. Just telling you what I see.

If you want to see cut off I can show you a viedo of me at the track a few years back...lmao

SMART ASS!!!

:lol

bet ya dont remember me do ya? One time, about 3 to 4 years ago (?) we rode together from OKC with the speed tribe up to some place in some little ok town to eat. I was on a silver R1, and you were on some ragged out beat up old bike, and we were flying down some pretty crapped out roads.

JAYSTENSEC4CYL
01-09-2006, 09:55 PM
I remember you man, you had the big ass bowed up arms...lol Looked like a soloflex comercial or something...lol

I recgonized the screen name, but did not know if it was you or not. I had not realized you moved away.

Wish you were still here, you can ride and don't have a big ego...lol Getting to be a hard combo to find.

Been keeping myself busy riding the r1 at Hallett, then crashing it on the street...lmao

Still trying to get a 24 at Hallett, last time out was a 25.1, my quickest yet.

KneeDragger77
01-10-2006, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by JAYSTENSEC4CYL


Wish you were still here, you can ride and don't have a big ego...lol Getting to be a hard combo to find.



:lol I bet alot of people would disagree with you...

You should come east sometime. Good roads ya know.

Those are some good lap times at Hallett too!:riding

Gawarrior
01-11-2006, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by KneeDragger77
:lol I bet alot of people would disagree with you...

You should come east sometime. Good roads ya know.

Those are some good lap times at Hallett too!:riding


Phil why would you say that:D :lol Doing any Gap trips this year?

KneeDragger77
01-11-2006, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by gawarrior
Phil why would you say that:D :lol Doing any Gap trips this year?

Chad
Yea last year sucked. Bike was under repair for a while, and then in the summer I binned it at the track and busted my collar bone, which effectively put me out of service until Sept, at which point I found out the bike I wrecked had a cracked engine case etc etc….

So, 2005 sucked. Only 1 gap trip. This year, it will be different. Right now I plan on going about 4 times.
May: warmup session
June: to say hi to the R1 Convention
July/Aug: sometime in here
Sept/Oct: last time here

We'll probably see each other quite a few times.:sneaky

Gawarrior
01-11-2006, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by KneeDragger77
Chad
Yea last year sucked. Bike was under repair for a while, and then in the summer I binned it at the track and busted my collar bone, which effectively put me out of service until Sept, at which point I found out the bike I wrecked had a cracked engine case etc etc….

So, 2005 sucked. Only 1 gap trip. This year, it will be different. Right now I plan on going about 4 times.
May: warmup session
June: to say hi to the R1 Convention
July/Aug: sometime in here
Sept/Oct: last time here

We'll probably see each other quite a few times.:sneaky


Cool that sounds like a good year. I only got to the Gap once myself last year. I was busted up too. broken foot, 3 broken ribs, and broken hand put me out of commission all summer...although that was all on MX tracks. I have the new R6 coming in march so I plan on riding the heck out of it:yesnod. Looking at maybe doing a trip in march or april then the convention... and then as time allows.

Hey, we are doing a RA trackday april 15th if you are interested. Should be a good time. And I will have my R6 by then:rock

definately looking forward to this year!

Southern118
01-11-2006, 02:17 PM
we are goign to the gap teh 29-31 of april :) also for both of yall