'05 Engine just "broke"

Well heres the story. Went out for a ride today did a couple wheelies down the freeway and we pulled over to a side street that people stunt on and parked there for a few minutes... anyways when I start it back up there is a HORRIBLE sound from my engine people that were 20' away all stoped talking and came over. When it started it sounded like something came loose and was smacking the piston? I shut it off after about 2 seconds of running. I have had a REAL noticable tick (louder than the "normal" tick from what i can tell). I just took my bike in this last week for its 8,000 mile service and they said the tick was "normal". It's gonna be interesting to see if they warranty this cause I'm sure its not gonna be cheap and I'll be bikeless for at least a couple weeks :cryin

Has anyone heard of this happening on a 05 R1 with 8,000 miles??? (and before you flame I did do a search) My best guess at this point is that it threw a rod or dropped a valve. And would the wheelies have messed it up (again don't flame I'm just trying to get some feed back before I take my bike in tomorrow). I know there was the issue with the older gixxers with the oil pickup and starving the engine of oil, but my understanding these are pick up in the rear. The only thing I'm getting at is *caugh* sometimes *caugh* I go to redline with my wheelies.

Originally posted by jhensel1 Has anyone heard of this happening on a 05 R1 with 8,000 miles??? (and before you flame I did do a search) My best guess at this point is that it threw a rod or dropped a valve. And would the wheelies have messed it up (again don't flame I'm just trying to get some feed back before I take my bike in tomorrow). I know there was the issue with the older gixxers with the oil pickup and starving the engine of oil, but my understanding these are pick up in the rear. The only thing I'm getting at is *caugh* sometimes *caugh* I go to redline with my wheelies. check your coolant level...it's probably empty.

Well the radiant overflow is still at the same level it was at the beginning of the day (high mark) but the sight glass for the oil totally full of oil. I didn't pop the radiator cap to really look in the radiator...so not sure if its full to or not. I don't think it ran long enough though to drain much of the radiator fluid into the oil if that did happen, like I said it was running fine and then when I restarted it it only ran for a couple of seconds and I shut it right back off. I think tomorrow I'm gonna open up the airbox and clean out the oil so it doesn't look like I've been doing wheelies since my service last week. Which they did already note how much oil was in the box and asked me if I did wheelies, I told them no by the way, but it's still noted in their computer the excess of oil in the airbox. Man I hope I don't screwed on this and have to pay for it out of my pocket...:bash

keep us informed on how it turns out.

I think you could be screwed unless youre best mate works in the dealership. :(

I've seen a few threads on here about 04 and 05 engine probs. Seems most others got it fixed and had Yami throw in the 2 year service warranty for free. Not trying to burn you but a search might do you some justice.... just my .02

it just broke because you starved it of oil.... not their problem.

Man why does everyone have to flame the guy? Don't yall think its punishment enough having to live without his bike! He is here for some support so lets give it to him. On that note clean your bike up and get it in to have it checked out. Everything will work out.

Well I took it into the shop last night, the mechanic started it up and said it definitely sounded like the rod. He went on to say he'd write up the report and not mention the oil he found last time in the airbox, and thought he could get it warrantied but they'll let me know more when they know more. So till then I have to hurry up and wait :cryin Originally posted by R1Budha it just broke because you starved it of oil.... not their problem. Why do you say I starved the bike? Everything I had read on the new R1s is that the oil is picked up in the rear and should be good to wheelie for miles (I know my buddy does it all the time on his '04) I'm just askin if you've heard something I haven't on these bikes when doing wheelies?

you would be very hard pressed to starve a bike of oil doing highway wheelies. slow wheelies and 12's might be another story. Whats hard on the rod bearings as far as wheelies go is clutching it up. When you let out on the clutch lever the crank slows down very abruptly, so abruptly that it can force the oil out of place and let the main journal touch the bearing. I have done it, as i clutch all my wheelies. Oil in the air box is extremly common. Most bikes do not use any kind of baffel between the crankcase vent hose and the air box, and with the motor spinning so fast some oil mist is forced up into the air box. It does not hurt anything, and as I said is extremely common. Hope you get the bike fixed with as little drama as possible brother :)

I just got back from looking at my bike...wish I had my camera with me. Engine is TOTALLY apart. And the part that broke ....The valve guide. A chunk of it, about the size of an eraser off a pencil, cracked off and went bouncin around on the piston till it finally "welded" itself to the piston. The mechanic said his personal guess is the guide was cracked when yamaha pressed it in and it just took time to fall apart. They have a couple pages of parts their trying to get warrantied, but the guy that needs to call yamaha was out today but he'll be back tomorrow so I get to hurry up and wait some more :eek:

Sounds like you might be OK after all. Bet thats a relief. Very unusual thing to break. :thumbup

I am 100% sure that will be covered by warranty.

I just got back from looking at my bike...wish I had my camera with me. Engine is TOTALLY apart. And the part that broke ....The valve guide. A chunk of it, about the size of an eraser off a pencil, cracked off and went bouncin around on the piston till it finally "welded" itself to the piston. The mechanic said his personal guess is the guide was cracked when yamaha pressed it in and it just took time to fall apart. They have a couple pages of parts their trying to get warrantied, but the guy that needs to call yamaha was out today but he'll be back tomorrow so I get to hurry up and wait some more :eek: So how common is this problem? Reason I ask is I just had the exact same thing happen to my bike. 16,000 miles on an 04 & its had that slight tick which I too was told "don't worry about it". Took the bike out for a ride a few weeks back & it ran great until I got home...then that horrible noise happened. Shut it down & took it in to the shop & I just got the diagnosis today. Also how common is it for Yamaha to step up & warranty this type of issue even though my bike is now longer under the original 1 yr warranty?

If your bike is out of warranty, I would think you were screwed, if it is still under warranty, they will cover it, and from what I understand they sometimes throw you the extended warranty for free. I know that I always need to run a little extra oil in my bikes, because the oil will come on during or after wheelies, and or fairly long high speed run.

damn good luck bro...

damn good luck bro... Last year dude...

Last year dude... don't be so quick to jump on someone's response, he was replying the guy up above who also indicated having the same problem :rant :lol

damn good luck bro... Yeah, I think in a year he got it figured out

i keep my oil level a lil notch below the max line and do 3 gear wheelies not clutching it up and so far im ok. my bike has 10,500 miles and running good as always (nocking on wood right now) i was told that is best to keep the oil level a lil notch below it it not much but a bit from the max line. is that true. btw sorry to hear that bro, hope they cover that motor on warranty.

don't be so quick to jump on someone's response, he was replying the guy up above who also indicated having the same problem :rant :lol Still last year :blush

So how common is this problem? Reason I ask is I just had the exact same thing happen to my bike. 16,000 miles on an 04 & its had that slight tick which I too was told "don't worry about it". Took the bike out for a ride a few weeks back & it ran great until I got home...then that horrible noise happened. Shut it down & took it in to the shop & I just got the diagnosis today. Also how common is it for Yamaha to step up & warranty this type of issue even though my bike is now longer under the original 1 yr warranty? Sabian and Squidly, do you see the date of this post :dundun:

Still last year :blush Dude you have left me no choice except to throw the :owwn3d flag. Learn to read, the post was from "03-19-2007, 05:48 PM" :lol

:blush I thought it said 06'

:owwn3d lets not start drama on forums now

Sabian and Squidly, do you see the date of this post :dundun: Yama...dude, I thought he was replying to the original post. My bad...I didn't say a word after you pointed it out. Sheesh

Hope everything works out for you R1Dyna. Mine got covered under warranty after a LONG wait to hear from yamaha...or the dealer not sure which one was screwin the pooch but it took forever to find out if the work was warranty or not. The mechanic told me I would be lucky if yamaha warrantied anything else for me, not sure if that ment on that R1 or on any bike in the future? I havent heard of that particular thing going bad on R1's... Good luck again with your bike I feel your pain