Well I just got a new Scotts Stabilizer for my 2001 R1, I should be happy right; wrong,:mad: as I was installing it I find out the bracket that connects with the triple clamp was not flush w/the triple clamp.:( The instructions specified that this should not happen and if it did to give them a call. Well I called them and they said that some times the triple clamp is not 100% strait. Ok, I can understand that but it just so happen that my friend w/a 2001 R1 like mine shows up and I try the piece on his triple clamp and guest what? Is not flush either.:mad: Well I called them again and they want to see my triple clam, I send them both pieces FedEx to see if they can figure it out. Have any of you guys have had any problems w/Scotts especially w/2001 R1 model?:eek:

Do you mean that the mount sat maybe 0.010" off of the triple clamp? I would think if that was the case you should measure the amount of gap with a feeler gauge, then take the nut into a machine shop and machine the measured amount off the bottom of the nut. Follow?

Well, it was more like the thickness of a quarter “off” on my bike and my friends. So I did not want it to go to the hazel to take my triple clamp to a machine shop went I think that Scotts should look at it first. I’m bagging to think that the 2001 R1 triple clamps are not 100% flat from the factory.

O.K. when you get it back measure that amount of clearance with a stack of feeler guages, then take the NUT into the machine shop and have that amount taken off of the bottom. You don't need to take off the triple clamp. If your not comfortable making the measurement get the machine shop to do it. I hope this helps.

I hope when I get it back it should be fix from Scotts. But is not the nut the one that is off is the piece that goes around it,, the nut is fine cause its seat on a different level.

Yes, its the piece that goes around the nut, It screws into resesses in the nut with set screws right. if the nut and its dimples are lowered, than the ring that screws to the nut will be lower to the triple. Follow?

Yes, that is the one. Im hopping that Scotts fix this problem as I think is on all 2001 R1. If not Im looking at a matrix damper. Is new and I do not know how it performs but it sure looks good. Especially in a red R1

Mine on a 2000 was not quite flush. Not as bad as what you are talking about. I seriously doubt the triple clamps are bent from the factory, if it was bent enough that you would notice it in the middle it would have to look like a bannana. I belive it is more of a problem with design on scott's part, by the way ohlins makes them for Scott's. Could you take the washer off? maybe get a thinner one? I cannot remember if you use it or not. Anywho I left a small gap on mine and it works fine.

I just installed the Matris damper and it works like a charm. Also it matches the red r1 like nothing else....:p

how much did damper cost you

I have one on my 2000 R1. It fits perfectly and took about 15 minutes to install. Did you purchase the authentic Scotts factory mounting kit, or some other?

I think the problem is w/2001 bikes. I test it in 2 different 2001 bikes w/same resolts.
Yes I did purchase the authentic Scotts factory mounting kit.

www.twobros.com has matrix and scott's dampers. I also believe they have a different mount for the scott's. I have seen it and it is bad as hell. You have to drill the tripleclamp though. And don't let scott's tell you your clamp isn't straight.....that's wack.

I've got a scotts on a 2001. It bolted right up, no prob. It was flush too.:confused:

I have a 2001 with a scotts damper and it fit on the tripple clamp fine, but here is where it was off on the frame rails which they say is ok just to use some hard rubber pads if it exceeds .030" :

There is no drilling needed? I am going to order one but I heard from some that there is no drilling and others that there may be drilling needed. I have a 2k, anyone know?
Thanks

No drilling here are the instructions:

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=875

I have a stupid question. Isnt this a flaw in their design? I mean you shouldnt have to shave down the nut or add rubber pads to make up for a large gap in order for the damper to fit. For $400 I want a component that fits properly without any unneccassary modifications. Besides its not like every R1 is drastically different. I just think Scott's could do a better job at designing the fit-up. Even adding rubber spacers in the kit they send you so that you can stack them if there is too much clearance between the frame like in Champions pic would help.

Im not bashing the damper, I think its one of the best on the market(maybe the best), Im just saying their fit-up design could be better, especially if this is an reaccuring problem.

Originally posted by scooter
I have a stupid question. Isnt this a flaw in their design? I mean you shouldnt have to shave down the nut or add rubber pads to make up for a large gap in order for the damper to fit. For $400 I want a component that fits properly without any unneccassary modifications. Besides its not like every R1 is drastically different. I just think Scott's could do a better job at designing the fit-up. Even adding rubber spacers in the kit they send you so that you can stack them if there is too much clearance between the frame like in Champions pic would help.

Im not bashing the damper, I think its one of the best on the market(maybe the best), Im just saying their fit-up design could be better, especially if this is an reaccuring problem.



The tolerances at the factory are such that sufficient production variables in the finished vehicle DO exist that result in perfect fit on some, and suboptimal fit on others. This is why some people "blueprint" a motor, for example.

Scooter, I agree w/you that is why I send my triple clam to Scoots. I should get a response from them today and let you all know what his answers is.

EyeSpy I have to disagree. We are talking about one component, not many that an engine has where a lot of internal parts etc can be out of tolerance. Blueprinting and balanceing an engine is mainly done to high performance engines that are being worked for more HP.
I guess my point is Yamaha uses one triple clamp, one large nut on top. So Scotts has the specs on these, its not like their guessing. All Im saying is Scotts can do a better job. Look at Ivans needles, those are made with a very high tolerance, have top fit into a very tight spot, but I have never heard of them not fitting. Scotts should be the same as Akro pipes. Take a slip on for example. It slips onto the existing exup valve assy exhaust piece(im guessing here) so Akro has a tolerance to fit onto that. The damper should have the same concept. Im not sure if its a design problem or manufacturing problem, but if people have to add spacers or grind the nut down something is wrong.

Here it is, They call me last night and after they got a look at the triple clamp they told me that they have seen this problem happened to Suzuki’s and the Yamaha’s a lot. But that there is no problem because went you tie the 8 or 6 screws that go around that piece it should become flush. Hhhuuuummm. They also told me that the instructions given for the Suzuki and the Yamaha are been change as we speak to reword the part about that piece been flush to the triple clamp. Apparently on this 2 kind of bike the way the Scoots fit on the triple clamp it does not matter if is not flush to it, contrary to what the instructions said. I hope this did not confuse some of you but I was just following the instruction they provide.

Facinating...... So what you are saying is that when you tighten the eight mounting screws it doesn't matter if it is flush or not? :n0t Well at least you will be riding again soon.

forgive the stupid dutchman, but what does flush mean in this context? :confused:

Completely flat with no space between the two pieces.

:hellobye

I just put on my Scott's Damper last night on my 2001 R1, and it fit perfect. Took me 10 min to put on. :D

Hope it all works out for you.

Finally

:hellobye stalin & jstbecauz: thank you...

Looks good Rick. Let me know how you like it. I'm trying to decide between the Scotts and Ohlins damper. I'm confident both are excellent dampers, it's more of what style of damper I'd be happier with. Or maybe a Matris would be better. Hell I dunno.

Scotts damper has every kind of adjustment and can be fine tuned in every way. The matris damper (which I use) is very, very, beautiful, and it seems to work too. I think for serious riding the scotts would be a better choice. I don't know about the Ohlins.