Consider a different oil for your R1?

Well After reading many replys as to which oil ppl here like to use and claim is the shizzle, I took it upon myself to some some homework and have made my choice to use the semi-synthetic 7ThGear motor oil. After seeing some charts as follows i know for a fact i wont be using the amsoil or yamalube. I think you might find this website intresting. www.7thgear.net/7thGear/Portals/0/How%20Does%207th%20Gear%20Stack%20Up.pdf (http://www.7thgear.net/7thGear/Portals/0/How%20Does%207th%20Gear%20Stack%20Up.pdf)

Uh,that link is basically an advertisement for their oil. Do you believe everything the radio/television/magazine ads tell you?

Originally posted by Demian1970 Uh,that link is basically an advertisement for their oil. Do you believe everything the radio/television/magazine ads tell you? UH.......Untill you know what your talking about! Keep your comments to yourself! The link shows statistical testing in which was done! Now if you happen to read the whole Link, you would have found that they are not saying they are the best oil! they are only showing the different qualitys of the different oils out there. I happen to know the rep in my area for 7th Gear and also know that he was the sales Rep for Yamalube. So therefore first hand info from someone in the buisness was helpfull. I never said they were the shizzle. But unlike the other oil competitors, 7th gear wasnt afraid to post their findings. Since you know it all! and im sure you have testing results of your own! Show me what you got and prove the results wrong! I posted it for a FYI post! I didnt post it to be a smartass! Maybee you should stop believing what your buddy's tell you and do your own homework! and I will stick with proven statistics and results. I showed you what i found! and you ack like im the dumbass!......... :bow

Uhhhh, so why exectly wont you be using Amsoil? It beats or meets 7th gear in every performance test. I'll be sticking with Amsoil.

Originally posted by fiveoh Uhhhh, so why exectly wont you be using Amsoil? It beats or meets 7th gear in every performance test. I'll be sticking with Amsoil. Look man! you can use butter for all i give a Sh*t! i never knocked amsoil! heck i didnt knock any oil for that matter! You go ahead and keep paying 4$ a quart more than me running your full synthetic! Ill stay with my semi-Synthetic since it has the same results as your full and save a few foolish dollars! Make of this what you want! Im not the one whining! Next time! try comparing apples to apples! and maybee just maybee ( i know its a long shot) you might learn something! Ride and read safe! Bro!:riding

Originally posted by YammyNut Look man! you can use butter for all i give a Sh*t! i never knocked amsoil! heck i didnt knock any oil for that matter! You go ahead and keep paying 4$ a quart more than me running your full synthetic! Ill stay with my semi-Synthetic since it has the same results as your full and save a few foolish dollars! Make of this what you want! Im not the one whining! Next time! try comparing apples to apples! and maybee just maybee ( i know its a long shot) you might learn something! Ride and read safe! Bro!:riding Take it easy there spaz. :confused: Originally posted by YammyNut After seeing some charts as follows i know for a fact i wont be using the amsoil You may not have "knocked" amsoil, but you certainly did sound like you made some discovery about it sucking. As far as price goes, I pay like $6.60 a quart for Amsoil. So go ahead and stick with your $2 a quart oil. :2bitchsla Originally posted by YammyNut Next time! try comparing apples to apples! and maybee just maybee ( i know its a long shot) you might learn something! Not even sure what this means. :dunno

:dunno why you chose 7th gear (maybe you'll tell us), personally I would've gone with Motul or Mobil if I wasn't going to go with Amsoil. Remember the lower performance in the 4 ball wear test, the more wear you'll have on the engine. Same with the evaporative test. The better the result the more oil you'll have in the engine after it's been heated, and cooked in your engine. What this document doesn't show is the High Temperature/High Shear test (HTHS) which will also show you how well your oil will handle the shearing effects from the transmission. Also keep in mind that part of the reason Amsoil costs a bit more per quart is because you can safely run it for $8k miles, and not 3k. That in itself makes it cheaper in the long run. Give "A Study of Motorcycle Oils" (http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf) a read. It's a nice informative piece that'll help you decide what oil you'll want to run.

Originally posted by YammyNut UH.......Untill you know what your talking about! Keep your comments to yourself! The link shows statistical testing in which was done! Now if you happen to read the whole Link, you would have found that they are not saying they are the best oil! they are only showing the different qualitys of the different oils out there. I happen to know the rep in my area for 7th Gear and also know that he was the sales Rep for Yamalube. So therefore first hand info from someone in the buisness was helpfull. I never said they were the shizzle. But unlike the other oil competitors, 7th gear wasnt afraid to post their findings. Since you know it all! and im sure you have testing results of your own! Show me what you got and prove the results wrong! I posted it for a FYI post! I didnt post it to be a smartass! Maybee you should stop believing what your buddy's tell you and do your own homework! and I will stick with proven statistics and results. I showed you what i found! and you ack like im the dumbass!......... :bow Uh,for your information,I've been a technician for the past 16 years,and am a certified master technician for VW,Audi,Toyota and have been a certified master A.S.E tecnician for the past 14 years.I've been riding in some form or another since age 12. It's what I do for a living,and make a pretty damn good living at it.I don't "listen to what my buddies tell me", I listen to what experience tells me. I've forgotten more about mechcanical workings than you will ever know.Home work is for kids,and yes,you ARE the dumbass.My credentials speak for themselves.

Originally posted by Demian1970 Uh,for your information,I've been a technician for the past 16 years,and am a certified master technician for VW,Audi,Toyota and have been a certified master A.S.E tecnician for the past 14 years.I've been riding in some form or another since age 12. It's what I do for a living,and make a pretty damn good living at it.I don't "listen to what my buddies tell me", I listen to what experience tells me. I've forgotten more about mechcanical workings than you will ever know.Home work is for kids,and yes,you ARE the dumbass.My credentials speak for themselves. Whoa I had no idea!!:bow i Met another Grease Monkey!! and A.S.E Tech to boot! Dont bore me with your lame credentials, sounds like a back yard Mechanic. Ive been a Specialist for Daimler Chrysler for 12 years, and been racing MX since i was 8 years old and still on two wheels. That dont make me a god! therefore! you are also far from it. All i did was show some test results, from a manufacture's testings. Since you cant provide me with alternative info to back up your findings! Then save your opinions for someone who cares! You can take your badass A.S.E and:butt . BTW... I would rather be a dumbass, than a master Jackass! Happy Easter! :finger

Wow, This guys retarded! Stop drinking the Oil spaz!

Oh-Oh, here it comes. Somebody get out a yardstick, another thread that turned into a dick-measuring contest. Happens a lot here somehow. The guys point is that the 18 speed or whatever, is a value leader in semi-synthetics. And he just wanted other riders aware of it. Thanks for the info bro, I personally had no exposure to the product at all.

yammynut (especially the nut part) you should calm down, you were the first person here to fly off the handle. Thank you for the info and the post. Its a good fyi. Everyone has their own opinions, I personally like the amsoil myself also, if you found a oil as good and cost a fraction of that as amsoil then good for you. Just quit spazzing out. No wonder you have that little squirrel from ice age in your sig...you act just like him.

Originally posted by r1scooter Oh-Oh, here it comes. Somebody get out a yardstick, another thread that turned into a dick-measuring contest. Happens a lot here somehow. Ha, just what I was thinking... I'll be stickin with Amsoil as well. oh, my credentials: Owner Automotive Performance Technology 17 years now Mercedes-Benz Factory trained Amsoil dealer 15 years and still own my first bike I bought 22 years ago... did I miss anything? chill out 'Nut, you alienate everyone with that kind of response.

Look Im not spazzing! I like it though, thank you. BUT!...... All i did was post test results. I wasnt badgering anything or anyone. I thought some ppl might find it intresting as i posted in the first post. On that note, Im not gonna take anyones B/S about believing everything, i see on tv and hear on the radio....(whatever that clown said) If you read back Do you see where i bad mouthed any oil? That bone head didnt have to make any comments, Just like the other ppl did. My whole point was that Why spend 7$ a quart for amsoil synthetic, when i can spend 3$ a quart for a semi-synthetic and get the same quality's according to the results. Now If that bone head thought it was inccorect results, and had any prognosis to his findings, Then he should have been a FRIENDLY contributer and voice his reasons for thinking different. But instead he rather run his mouth like he invented the wheel! If you recall, the thread name was "Consider of different oil?" It was a question not a statement . I posted statistics that i found, what did he post? therefore, i dont wanna hear his B/S. Sorry for getting excited..... But ... ruffle my feathers, im plucking yours! :) Sorry to those i may have offended, no punn intended. I was mearly trying to be helpfull. I guess some people are just too cool and know it all, and cant accept it. I dont have a problem with anyone here! never have!

Motul.

Originally posted by the.one_79 yammynut (especially the nut part) you should calm down, you were the first person here to fly off the handle. Thank you for the info and the post. Its a good fyi. Everyone has their own opinions, I personally like the amsoil myself also, if you found a oil as good and cost a fraction of that as amsoil then good for you. Just quit spazzing out. No wonder you have that little squirrel from ice age in your sig...you act just like him. LOL I wasnt spazzing out!! He wanted to play so i figured i would play with him! :) I posted the thread 60 views ago, and nobody said a word, and thats great! But the only person to reply had to be cocky about it! Im just not tucking my tail between my legs for nobody. I found this thread to be rather funny! I mean come on....... Look what such an innocent thread turned into! Ya gotta love it! I guess some ppl just cant resist! :) Like i said before was just posting what i found, thats all. These ppl can take it for how they want. Im sure there are alot more guru's in here than i ever thought of being. Be safe! and rubber side down. BTW........... Damn it, I like my squirrel!! :) He's devoted to trying to bury his nuts! LOL My kind of dude!

Originally posted by fiveoh Uhhhh, so why exectly wont you be using Amsoil? It beats or meets 7th gear in every performance test. I'll be sticking with Amsoil. Sorry Bro, I didnt realize who you were, I thought you were Demian, replying. I didnt mean to get chitty with you. I was kinda blown away with his comment, as if he had substantial reason for his comment. My bad.... Please accept my appologies. As far as Demian, I got some nuts for him! :) LOL Sorry again!

Bonehead,huh?What are you,like 12 years old?Always a sign of low intellect when someone resorts to name calling. I'll see you on the playground at recess. I'll have to guess you grew up in a house under power lines.

Originally posted by fiveoh Uhhhh, so why exectly wont you be using Amsoil? It beats or meets 7th gear in every performance test. I'll be sticking with Amsoil. Originally posted by YammyNut Look man! you can use butter for all i give a Sh*t! i never knocked amsoil! heck i didnt knock any oil for that matter! You go ahead and keep paying 4$ a quart more than me running your full synthetic! Ill stay with my semi-Synthetic since it has the same results as your full and save a few foolish dollars! Make of this what you want! Im not the one whining! Next time! try comparing apples to apples! and maybee just maybee ( i know its a long shot) you might learn something! Ride and read safe! Bro!:riding Look at my post and then your response. I asked you a simple question about why you singled out Amsoil and said you would never use it. You lashed out like a complete spaz. If you don't care what I use, that's fine... STFU. Just what we need, another internet tough guy. Just chill out. I was happy you posted the info, and enjoyed reading it. Then you spazzed out on everyone who contributed to your thread.

The only nuts you have for me are obviously the peanuts in you head,taking up the space where a brain should be. I'm done with this thread,and done with you. I can only hope that Darwin was right,and you take yourself out of the gene pool. I'm betting you will.

Someone has a chip on their shoulder.........

Originally posted by fiveoh Look at my post and then your response. I asked you a simple question about why you singled out Amsoil and said you would never use it. You lashed out like a complete spaz. If you don't care what I use, that's fine... STFU. Just what we need, another internet tough guy. Just chill out. I was happy you posted the info, and enjoyed reading it. Then you spazzed out on everyone who contributed to your thread. LOL You evidently missed my post of apologies. You were right, I was wrong. I said i was sorry. I had mistaken you for demian. I did explain why i didnt use amsoil. I never said it was bad oil. I just didnt understand why pay all the extra $ for what? Just the name? Im sure it is a good oil! I personaly dont want to use a full synthetic, and be forced to continue a full-synthetic. Everybody does have there own opinions, Demian didnt make an opinion only a childish statement. My original post was an FYI, Informational only. As a matter of fact, nobody did contribute to the thread as in there reasons for choosing the oil they prefer. Like i said before and ill say it again. Im sorry with all due respect.

BTW anyone try out Lucas Motorcycle oils ? Regular, semi or full synthetic

Originally posted by Demian1970 Bonehead,huh?What are you,like 12 years old?Always a sign of low intellect when someone resorts to name calling. I'll see you on the playground at recess. I'll have to guess you grew up in a house under power lines. LOL sounds like you never left the playground! With all your super natural Credentials, I expected a little more intelligent reply, rather than do you believe every thing you read or see. Correct me if im wrong.......You went to school for your certification didnt you!? Or were you a master tech at birth and set the standard for A.S.E and didnt have to read or see any text books? You must be a guru!!:bow I came to the table with information that i found. You came to the table with...........Hmmm..........oh yeah.....NOTHIN!! As far as im concerned your still at recess! G/L with that!

Here, let me help. We'll settle this right now. Longest dick wins.

Well, he's got 'NUT' on his screen name and he's just proving that he is :fact :D :lol

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.... :butt :lol :lol HAPPY EASTER EVERYBODY!!!!!!

back at ya carternick79

Aw you guys are sweet!! Thanks for noticing my nut!! I didnt know there were so may UPS employees checking out my package! :) Would it make ya feel better if i used amsoil! Can i get in the glee club then? Gimme a break! I said i was sorry! what more do you want from me!? Lets kickem while hes down! Go ahead if it makes ya feel better! go ahead get it all out!! Let it all hang out! Im havin fun! i would expect you to have just as much fun! LOL This is great! ok ok ok your turn!

Originally posted by YammyNut LOL You evidently missed my post of apologies. You were right, I was wrong. I said i was sorry. I had mistaken you for demian. I did explain why i didnt use amsoil. I never said it was bad oil. I just didnt understand why pay all the extra $ for what? Just the name? Im sure it is a good oil! I personaly dont want to use a full synthetic, and be forced to continue a full-synthetic. Everybody does have there own opinions, Demian didnt make an opinion only a childish statement. My original post was an FYI, Informational only. As a matter of fact, nobody did contribute to the thread as in there reasons for choosing the oil they prefer. Like i said before and ill say it again. Im sorry with all due respect. It's cool :thumbup I missed the apology and just saw the cocky and bone head stuff. Just keep in mind that those test don't cover ALL aspects of oil performance. A full-syn offer better characteristics.

Originally posted by 02R1guy BTW anyone try out Lucas Motorcycle oils ? Regular, semi or full synthetic Hey 02r1guy, I just bought a few bottles of the full synthetic.....I'll let you know how it is. :crash :crash And if performance is the main goal.....full synthetic will be your best bet.....even if some semis come close....it's always more affective with a full ...... oops got off topic :blush

Originally posted by fiveoh It's cool :thumbup I missed the apology and just saw the cocky and bone head stuff. Just keep in mind that those test don't cover ALL aspects of oil performance. A full-syn offer better characteristics. I understand that, I wasnt trying o claim 7th gear was the shizzle, Only trying to show they claim some of the same qualitys in a semi-synthetic and a name brand synthetic. Their PPM of additives were alot higher than the other semi-synthetic brands. And to me that was pretty impressive. I wasnt ready to switch to full synthetic Yet. Heck im even still in limbo as to which oil filter to use. useing OEM for now, but not thrilled about it.

Originally posted by wirefire Change your oil on a regular basis and you can use bacon grease.... They put these oils under tests that you would never do to your bike unless you're a fat lazy bastard/a cartoon or both, and don't give a crap about your bike. It doesnt really matter in the scheme of things if you maintain it. If it did, we would all use the same damn stuff... :bs

Change your oil every 800-1000 miles and tell me that the brand will matter as far as the engine goes. We are comparing brands not grades. The only diff I could maybe see or notice in 800-1000 miles, would be clutch performance. Maybe...but that would be pushing this topic to the limits.