TPS recall on 04/05 R1's

Someone should sticky this. Just got a voicemail from my dealer advising me of a recall on the TPS on my 05 R1. Said he will have the part in next week and to get my bike down there for a replacement. Anyone else get a call yet about this? EDIT: Just got off of the phone with dealer. Apparently they just got the bulliten today about the recall. Kinda sucks because I just picked up my bike from on them on monday from getting a harness taken care off. I need to live closer to my dealer. :cryin

your dealer actually contacted you out of the blue? cool :D

Yeah, I'm a little shocked myself.

What about the 04? It's the same crap sensor?

so.... I guess I should contact my dealer huh...?

Is this for the primary and secondary tps?

Originally posted by aaask8tr What about the 04? It's the same crap sensor? I am not sure (Just tried to call and ask him and he left for the day). However, I did ask him if my brother needed to bring his 05 down as well when I spoke with him and he said that he needed to call them and give them his VIN in order to see if his bike is on the list.

Let us know how it works out. I was interested to contact my dealer to see if this recall would apply to myself as well.

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:iamwithst me too. I wanna see where this goes.

coincidently, i walked into a yamaha dealer yesterday prepared to buy a new sensor if i had to and their service dept guy openly discussed the issue and said the old sensors were now superseded and would order in two revised sensors for me and booked my bike in to have them changed out FOC- painless my previous experience with another dealer last year was just aggravation with them all denial so maybe the tide is finally turning

Good deal. Atleast they were open about it. Some dealers would jump at the first chance to take your money and pocket it. I think this should be a Sticky. :fact

Originally posted by bender Is this for the primary and secondary tps? :yesnod Correct Also, when I call them in the morning I will ask for all the info via email and I will post it in this thread.

Here you go. I can not post the PDF file because it is over 300000 bytes but it does cover 2004 YZFR1-S/SC ALL 2004 FZS600-S/SC ALL 2005 YZFR1-T RN13E-0007911~0012965 2005 YZF-R1TC RN13Y-0001423~0003392 2005 FZS600T RJ08E-0002249~0004781 2005 FZS600TC RJ08Y-0000303~0000702 Here is a link for the Tech Bulletin in PDF: http://www.r1-forum.com/bulletins/yamaha_tps_bulletin.pdf **Admin Edit: Link updated. Well mine is number 015832 looks like no free parts for me

Wondering if my bike will be effected? Must go to check the serial no.... Camping here to see wat is going on....

Oh man Now what....

Originally posted by CastroR1 Oh man Now what.... :lol

Stay on topic Foos.....I just rang my dealer and no such recall according to them.

Check that.....They just called me back and YES its true..They ordered mine as i was on the phone with them...She said i would receive a letter, but went ahead and got the parts on the way.

Mine is recalled, but I have not finished getting it back together to take it in to the dealership. How long will this recall be active? I don't plan on getting back onto the road until October sometime. Will this recall be active then?

ooohhhh....thanks God....my R1 is not recalled...!!!! so it will be ok....i hope so

Originally posted by gabeowen Mine is recalled, but I have not finished getting it back together to take it in to the dealership. How long will this recall be active? I don't plan on getting back onto the road until October sometime. Will this recall be active then? Correct me if I am wrong, but I think a recall no matter what it is is always everlasting.

Just called up my dealer to check on my 04 R1 and he said it was on the list and he was ordering the parts for me already and i could drop my bike off at anytime to get it done. I bought mine in nov of 04 so i guess some of the 04's are definately in the recall. Also i asked him how long i had on the recall just incase and he said normally its 1 year.

For us not so mechanical, what is the TPS? full name, purpose? Thanks in advance for info.

Can someone explain the difference? 2005 YZFR1-T RN13E-0007911~0012965 2005 YZF-R1TC RN13Y-0001423~0003392 Mine is a016202. Can someone help please?

Originally posted by 05 r1racer Can someone explain the difference? 2005 YZFR1-T RN13E-0007911~0012965 2005 YZF-R1TC RN13Y-0001423~0003392 Mine is a016202. Can someone help please? The C is for the California Model. You can also call Yamaha at (800) 962-7926. As for a product specialist, make sure you have your VIN ready. They will look up your bike and let you know. It's a little bit of a wait but worth finding out. The tech bulletin issued by Yamaha is 06-011. Your dealer should already be aware.

Originally posted by Solyjr For us not so mechanical, what is the TPS? full name, purpose? Thanks in advance for info. Throttle Position Sensor It tells the ECU how far the throttle body is open and adjusts accordingly

Originally posted by 05 r1racer Can someone explain the difference? 2005 YZFR1-T RN13E-0007911~0012965 2005 YZF-R1TC RN13Y-0001423~0003392 Mine is a016202. Can someone help please? Yours is not recalled. The set of numbers after the RN13E is the number you have listed (A016202) therefor not recalled

Originally posted by JCStangR1 Just called up my dealer to check on my 04 R1 and he said it was on the list and he was ordering the parts for me already and i could drop my bike off at anytime to get it done. I bought mine in nov of 04 so i guess some of the 04's are definately in the recall. Also i asked him how long i had on the recall just incase and he said normally its 1 year. As per the link I posted on page one to the recall notice ALL 04 R1's are recalled for the TPS.

Originally posted by bender Is this for the primary and secondary tps? The bulletin states that they are only replacing the primary sensor:fact

So... my bikes vin is in the recall but the dealer that I bought it from is out of bis. I've called other dealers in Colorado but they keep givin me a bunch of B S like they have to check my bike to confrim the problem yada yada. Has anybody else had problems with thier dealers and the recall?

Originally posted by TONER1 So... my bikes vin is in the recall but the dealer that I bought it from is out of bis. I've called other dealers in Colorado but they keep givin me a bunch of B S like they have to check my bike to confrim the problem yada yada. Has anybody else had problems with thier dealers and the recall? Since SOME bikes are affected by the recall, they do need to check the vin and make sure it's on the list. So they really aren't trying to bs ya.

I've confrimed it with yamaha usa. I think that our metro dealers are just a bunch of money hungry B***** thats why I work on my bike and not them I would change it myself but they said I have to buy the tps Damn recall politics

Can't see Yamaha UK doing a recall. I take it it's USA only?:mad:

Originally posted by future06R1 Here you go. I can not post the PDF file because it is over 300000 bytes but it does cover 2004 YZFR1-S/SC ALL 2004 FZS600-S/SC ALL 2005 YZFR1-T RN13E-0007911~0012965 2005 YZF-R1TC RN13Y-0001423~0003392 2005 FZS600T RJ08E-0002249~0004781 2005 FZS600TC RJ08Y-0000303~0000702 Here is a link for the Tech Bulletin in PDF: http://www.r1-forum.com/bulletins/yamaha_tps_bulletin.pdf **Admin Edit: Link updated. Well mine is number 015832 looks like no free parts for me :dunno Not sure how to read the numbers. RN13YX5A003355.Seems like my number is out of the mix. yes, no?

Originally posted by cyclepath :dunno Not sure how to read the numbers. RN13YX5A003355.Seems like my number is out of the mix. yes, no? Well I may be wrong here, but it seems like 003355 fits between 001423 and 003392

Originally posted by Corbin Well I may be wrong here, but it seems like 003355 fits between 001423 and 003392 Sounds right to me: The range of 0001423-0003392 is for the California model. Which I'm guessing includes yours is, Cyclepath, since it looks like you're in SoCal (assuming you bought it in-state). 2005 YZFR1-T RN13E-0007911~0012965 <- Non-CA model 2005 YZF-R1TC RN13Y-0001423~0003392 <- CA model

Yup just received the letter today from Yamaha. Looks like mine is one of the recalls.

Originally posted by TOn! Sounds right to me: The range of 0001423-0003392 is for the California model. Which I'm guessing includes yours is, Cyclepath, since it looks like you're in SoCal (assuming you bought it in-state). 2005 YZFR1-T RN13E-0007911~0012965 <- Non-CA model 2005 YZF-R1TC RN13Y-0001423~0003392 <- CA model Yup, thanks, damn.

Shiiiiiii... i just checked and I'm due a new TPS. Son-of-a-motherless goat! It's things like this that make me glad this forum exists. As I was leaving work I ran into another R1 rider in the parking garage and told him about it too.

I had my primary replaced 10 days ago under warranty in Canada, glad it was done before the huge demand for tps units is going to happen.

Yea, I got a recall letter in the mail today from yamaha. Says 04 & some 05. simptoms are idle speed drop to 500-600rpm and engine may stall if not given more throttle. Says to just call your yamaha dealer and schedule an appointment to have it replaced free of charge. I did a post as well not seeing this one was already out there.

Looks like my 05 is on the list, but no letter or phone call. And in 10,500 miles, it's never missed a beat or had any kind of idle fluctuation or any kind of problem. RN13E-0007911~0012965 My number has only 6 digits and is about 600 less than the 012965. I suppose you drop the leading zero in the range ~0012965?

If I am reading this right, my bike - A008200- is part of the recall? :fork

I had to come out of pocket $200+ about two months ago because none of my local dealers had ever heard of the TPS problem and my bike had gotten to the point it was dangerous to ride. Anyone know what the chances of Yamaha compensating for bikes already fixed before the recall is?

Keep in mind guys, the digits read 7 numbers, when they fill up those numbers, they use letters starting with A. If in doubt, contact a dealer, but dont be surprised if they havent heard about it yet. The power of the internet gives us this info before it becomes known to some dealers. :thumbup Also keep in mind that sometimes manufacturers find defects out of the first vin range, and have to revise the vin ranges affected. This only usually happens when complaints are filed in the same manner as the original complaints, but are found to be out of the initial affected vin range. My 05 R1 is not in the vin range, but clearly had the defect, with all of the symptoms. I purchased two TPS out of pocket and repaired it myself. When all of the letters have been sent, and no initial vin range change has been made, I will file the appropriate complaint forms.:fact

Originally posted by knee_draggerR1 I had to come out of pocket $200+ about two months ago because none of my local dealers had ever heard of the TPS problem and my bike had gotten to the point it was dangerous to ride. Anyone know what the chances of Yamaha compensating for bikes already fixed before the recall is? All automotive manufacturers will reimburse customers for repairs of the defect prior to a recall, if it is in the affected vin range. It will be interesting to see if Yamaha conducts itself in the same upstanding manner!:yesnod

Originally posted by elviswarrior All automotive manufacturers will reimburse customers for repairs of the defect prior to a recall That is false info mang, i cant tell how many recalls we have had with Nissan that happened after many cars that were effected by a recall way after factory warr. had ran out. Nissan North America NEVER gave a dime back for parts and labor that came out of they're pocket..... :fact

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Got mine today in the mail folks... I called them up and said "give me my appointment!" They said to call in tomorrow and provide the S/N and then he would see if he has the part... He said it would take a couple of days to do the work... I almost lost it... I think he meant it would take a couple of days to get the part in so don't bother bringing in your bike... I will call tomorrow and see. Now I have to make that damn ride out there and maybe miss work...:argue

I'm betting these TPS sensors go on backorder really fast. I got mine in today, but probably won't put it in the bike until the stock one starts acting a fool.

One of our dealers gave me a hard time so I called another and they made me an appointment without a problem.

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SO, Is it possible to just get the part? The service dept where i bought my bike sucks major A$$.

Nope. Recalls mandate that the dealer is the one who installs the part.

REAL NICE, took mine in for 8k service " that i was stupid enough to pay for when i bought the bike" over filled oil by at least a half a quart, lost a fairing screw, and left grease prints all over my fairings.

My dealer knows nothing about this recall... BASTARDS!!!

:) It's about fooking time Yamaha............... *shakes head at all the trouble Yamaha put it's customers through for two+ years*

Originally posted by R1LOVER :) It's about fooking time Yamaha............... *shakes head at all the trouble Yamaha put it's customers through for two+ years* Funny you say that, mine will get the TPS, but i have NO problems..Go figure.. :cool:

Dealer told me it's not a recall, it's just a buliten.... And that even if your bike shows the symptoms, which btw is the only way they supposedly will replace it, it's not a safety hazard. My bike shows no symptoms at all, perhaps I should leave it be? or should I persue this more?

My bikes had the problem since about 8k but it is real intermitint I don't understand how they can check it. i'm so tierd of our local dealers givin methe run around. I think I'll just shell out money for the tps and do it myself and it will still be cheaper than takin it to any dealer in Denver (even though it shouldn't cost me anything)

Originally posted by Wheatman Funny you say that, mine will get the TPS, but i have NO problems..Go figure.. :cool: :iamwithst I've never had any signs of the TPS bogging or at idle. But i do qualify for the recall, oh well!! :beer

Originally posted by Wheatman That is false info mang, i cant tell how many recalls we have had with Nissan that happened after many cars that were effected by a recall way after factory warr. had ran out. Nissan North America NEVER gave a dime back for parts and labor that came out of they're pocket..... :fact Perhaps you should work for Toyota then, or at least drive one. That is standard procedure with us, as well as others, had no idea Nissan refuses to do so. That seems crappy to me....

Thats what one dealer told me but then I called Yamaha and they told me all bikes within the range given before should have it done regardless of symptoms.

Originally posted by Solyjr Dealer told me it's not a recall, it's just a buliten.... And that even if your bike shows the symptoms, which btw is the only way they supposedly will replace it, it's not a safety hazard. My bike shows no symptoms at all, perhaps I should leave it be? or should I persue this more? They are full of sh!t. It's stated that ANY BIKE WITHIN THE NUMBERS are to be changed out. If your bike falls into that category, then it gets done F.O.C.. :fact

I got a letter today from Yamaha Motor Corp, it read as follows. Dear Yamaha Owner: Yamaha strives to offer motorcycles with exceptional quality and performance, including the YZF-R1 or FZ6 motorcycles shown on the label above. We thank you for purchasing this motorcycle and hope that it is providing you with an enjoyable ownership experience. Yamaha has determined that the Throttle Position Sensor (or "TPS") on 2004 and some 2005 models may not function correctly. As a result, some owners have experienced an intermittently unstable idle when the engine has reached operating temperature. The idle speed might drop to 500-600 rpm, and the engine might stall if you do not give it throttle again. To correct this unstable idle condition, yamaha will replace the TPS on your motorcycle at no cost to you for parts or labor, even if your motorcycle is out of warranty, and even if you have never experienced this unstable idle condition. To get the free TPS replacement, simply call your Yamaha motorcycle dealer and make an appointment so he can be sure to have the parts in stock. The job takes a little less than one and a half hours to perform, but your dealer may need to keep your motorcycle longer depending upon his Service Department schedule. Thank you again for owning a Yamaha. We know you have a choice in motorcycle brands and appreciate that you have chosen to be part of the growing Yamaha family. Please take advantage of this offer today by calling your dealer and scheduling the TPS replacement. Sincerely, Service Division Customer Support Group

Well I just called my local dealer and apparently Yamaha ****ed up again and issued a recall without shipping the replacement parts ahead of time so now it will be another week before my parts are even in stock.

Originally posted by elviswarrior Perhaps you should work for Toyota then, or at least drive one. That is standard procedure with us, as well as others, had no idea Nissan refuses to do so. That seems crappy to me.... Yes it is pretty Shitty, i agree. But thats how it is...I've never known any company to refund parts/labor..

So far I have called 5 Dealers...all of them will be getting the part in by Tuesday and I should be go to go by Wed. The Dealer I bought my bike from was the worst. They were pretty good on the coolant leak, but on this issue they flat out suck. They say, maybe end of Month!!! BullSh*t! I got a Dealer that was up front and said just bring it in Wed, call Tuesday to verify part and I will have you out in an hour. :corn

Originally posted by BottleRocket Well I just called my local dealer and apparently Yamaha ****ed up again and issued a recall without shipping the replacement parts ahead of time so now it will be another week before my parts are even in stock. That sucks Chris. I got Jason to order me two new ones before this bulletin even came out. He pm'd me on Stangs yesterday and told me to get my bike up there. They'll do it FOC! I was ready to pay for them a couple of weeks ago when i had him order them.

So i wonder how long it will be before these go on backorder?

Originally posted by Solyjr Dealer told me it's not a recall, it's just a buliten.... And that even if your bike shows the symptoms, which btw is the only way they supposedly will replace it, it's not a safety hazard. My bike shows no symptoms at all, perhaps I should leave it be? or should I persue this more? Sounds like your dealer is just tryin' to weasel thier way out of having to do it... I'd call around. :yesnod

After hearing all your guys' horror stories about the run-around crap from the dealers, I am suprised mine CALLED ME to inform me about it.

Originally posted by BottleRocket Well I just called my local dealer and apparently Yamaha ****ed up again and issued a recall without shipping the replacement parts ahead of time so now it will be another week before my parts are even in stock. not yamahas fault...they cant know how many to send to each dealer...the parts are available, sounds like your dealer has issues if they only get one shipment a week, the dealer I use gets part shipments all the time

i got the letter today as well, but dont plan on doin it. I havent had a problem in 2 years, and prefer the dealer goons not tearing my bike apart.

Originally posted by cbrjames That sucks Chris. I got Jason to order me two new ones before this bulletin even came out. He pm'd me on Stangs yesterday and told me to get my bike up there. They'll do it FOC! I was ready to pay for them a couple of weeks ago when i had him order them. what dealer you going to? I purchased mine from NTY, but I think I would trust Stadium with it more.

Originally posted by s4iscool i got the letter today as well, but dont plan on doin it. I havent had a problem in 2 years, and prefer the dealer goons not tearing my bike apart. Ditto....:thumbup

Originally posted by Wheatman Yes it is pretty Shitty, i agree. But thats how it is...I've never known any company to refund parts/labor.. Our recall letters are worded pretty much the same as Yamahas (becoming the same company) as far as the striving for quality and all that, but the last paragraph always states that if you had to previously pay for this repair at any facility, all you have to do is send them a copy of your costs and they will reimburse parts and labor. Toyota is the only dealer I have ever known (16 years) and I guess I became so used to it that I thought all manufacturers did that :dunno I didnt realize you were a tech Wheat :hellobye I guess that would explain the Snap-On sig :thumbup I have way too many :dollar tied up in two Snap-On boxes, gotta have one for home as well!:yesnod Later Wheat!:cool:

Originally posted by R1LOVER :) It's about fooking time Yamaha............... *shakes head at all the trouble Yamaha put it's customers through for two+ years* This was posted by Speeder2 9/13/04: PROBLEM When I come to a stop the bike would just shut off. Sounds like a wind down sound. Like an electrical motor winding down to off. The dash lights stay on. I have to turn it off with the key and restart it. This used to happen in the hot days but now it happens at night and within 100 yards after i come out of my driveway in the mornings now. It HAS gotten worse for me. http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98831

Originally posted by elviswarrior Our recall letters are worded pretty much the same as Yamahas (becoming the same company) as far as the striving for quality and all that, but the last paragraph always states that if you had to previously pay for this repair at any facility, all you have to do is send them a copy of your costs and they will reimburse parts and labor. Toyota is the only dealer I have ever known (16 years) and I guess I became so used to it that I thought all manufacturers did that :dunno I didnt realize you were a tech Wheat :hellobye I guess that would explain the Snap-On sig :thumbup I have way too many :dollar tied up in two Snap-On boxes, gotta have one for home as well!:yesnod Later Wheat!:cool: Thats really good of Toyota to do that for its Customers..:yesnod Yes Bro, Been a Tecnician for 11 years.. As far as tools go, i know excacty what you mean about having money in tools..:thumbup

Originally posted by s4iscool i got the letter today as well, but dont plan on doin it. I havent had a problem in 2 years, and prefer the dealer goons not tearing my bike apart. If you don't value your life then don't do it, but I've had my bike going on 3 summers now and it failed the other day in Heavy traffic. It might not happen to you, but do you really want to be in the path of a semi when it fails?

will they just give me the part and let me install it myself or do they have to do all the work in order for it to be free? also, does anybody know where to get that tamper proof torx style tool to remove the tps? thanks

Originally posted by BottleRocket what dealer you going to? I purchased mine from NTY, but I think I would trust Stadium with it more. I-35 Yamaha. Its close to Duncanville.

Originally posted by ryoshimura will they just give me the part and let me install it myself or do they have to do all the work in order for it to be free? also, does anybody know where to get that tamper proof torx style tool to remove the tps? thanks If you actually read this thread, you will see that they will not just give you that part and then let you change it yourself.

btw if you have had a problem and your dealer won't fix it or you're in a diff country you do realize you can buy the sensor and do it yourself. just make sure you get the good sensor...not a huge deal to do it yourself, even though you shouldn't have to...but if it comes down to it at least you know it's fixed

Originally posted by Wheatman Funny you say that, mine will get the TPS, but i have NO problems..Go figure.. :cool: :iamwithst EDIT: Went to the mailbox and the letter was there!

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I just got the letter from Yamaha this is a major pain in the ass, cause it's gonna be impossible to get off work to get the bike into the shop

I didn't get the letter, but I called my dealer. Parts are on order, and they will give me a call when they come in. About an hour and a half labor, no arguments. They got the letter and are honoring all the 2004s, and have the list to ID the 2005s.

Well my bike is plated December 2004, so I'm going to fax the dealer with a copy of the bulletin I just printed I know I'm on the other side of the world, but like bender said, if it does fail, I don't want to be in the path of a semi if it does.

Some of us here will have a problem with this matter. The reason I say this is how many of us have taken the bike in and spent money for a dealership to inspect your bike and say you owe them $$$ and nothing is wrong with it. Do you think Yamaha is going to pay for those services???? I doubt it!! Anyways, now that I have the service bulliten, I'm calling Yamaha as asking for all the crash damages fixed or the bike replaced with a brand new one or I'm suing for all the damages and Pain and Suffering from crashing because of their F* ^. Anyways, good luck all and remember....if you have/had this problem....still report it to: www.nhtsa.com Because, this is only a SERVICE BULLITEN.....not a RECALL. Any questions, just PM me.

Originally posted by Bill2Drunk Because, this is only a SERVICE BULLITEN.....not a RECALL. I have Not received the letter yet, but my dealer has already scheduled me for tuesday.....Point being made, if customers are getting letters then its not a service bulletin, its a recall....:fact

Originally posted by Bill2Drunk Some of us here will have a problem with this matter. The reason I say this is how many of us have taken the bike in and spent money for a dealership to inspect your bike and say you owe them $$$ and nothing is wrong with it. Do you think Yamaha is going to pay for those services???? I doubt it!! Anyways, now that I have the service bulliten, I'm calling Yamaha as asking for all the crash damages fixed or the bike replaced with a brand new one or I'm suing for all the damages and Pain and Suffering from crashing because of their F* ^. Anyways, good luck all and remember....if you have/had this problem....still report it to: www.nhtsa.com Because, this is only a SERVICE BULLITEN.....not a RECALL. Any questions, just PM me. They're telling you to bring it in for a free replacement! What more do you want?

Originally posted by RTSR1 They're telling you to bring it in for a free replacement! What more do you want? :iamwithst

They were a little slow maybe, but at least they are fixing it. :fork

I got my letter yesterday and have talked t the dealer the previous day and the parts are on order. Will be takin it in for them to do. I marked mine so I'l know if the changed them.

Hey that's not a bad idea. I think I will do that myself.

Originally posted by Sniper.308 I marked mine so I'l know if the changed them. Wow, no trust from your dealer huh...:crash Good odea BTW..:thumbup

Originally posted by Wheatman I have Not received the letter yet, but my dealer has already scheduled me for tuesday.....Point being made, if customers are getting letters then its not a service bulletin, its a recall....:fact Go look for yourself..... http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/results.cfm This is a Yamaha SERVICE BULLETIN: Its not a NHTSA SERVICE BULLETIN.....big difference!!! http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/results.cfm Until NHTSA forces it to be a recall.....then YAMAHA gets to blow it over like its no big deal. Like I said in the main trend.....most of you if not 99% of you have been some lazy asses who want people like me to get this crap fixed.....but can't take the time to fill out a 5 minute complaint. www.nhtsa.com

Originally posted by Bill2Drunk Go look for yourself..... http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/results.cfm This is a Yamaha SERVICE BULLETIN: Its not a NHTSA SERVICE BULLETIN.....big difference!!! http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/results.cfm Until NHTSA forces it to be a recall.....then YAMAHA gets to blow it over like its no big deal. Like I said in the main trend.....most of you if not 99% of you have been some lazy asses who want people like me to get this crap fixed.....but can't take the time to fill out a 5 minute complaint. www.nhtsa.com Its obvious that companies go about things in diff. ways. Nissan DONT send out service Bullitons to they're customers. They are for the service dept....So Calm yourself Dude.....Take a pill before you blow a vein. :beer :beer

Originally posted by Bill2Drunk Go look for yourself..... http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/results.cfm This is a Yamaha SERVICE BULLETIN: Its not a NHTSA SERVICE BULLETIN.....big difference!!! http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/results.cfm Until NHTSA forces it to be a recall.....then YAMAHA gets to blow it over like its no big deal. Like I said in the main trend.....most of you if not 99% of you have been some lazy asses who want people like me to get this crap fixed.....but can't take the time to fill out a 5 minute complaint. www.nhtsa.com Well before you go spouting off, who has asked you to do anything? Second, I have talked to three local dealerships that call it a "recall". Now wheather or not if its a recall by that site you keep including in your posts, I could really careless. All I really care about is they called me and informed me about it and it will be getting replaced FOC. The only purpose I posted this damn thread in to inform everyone. Not to hear poeple bitch back oand forth about if it's a recall or not. Christ!

Originally posted by Bill2Drunk Like I said in the main trend.....most of you if not 99% of you have been some lazy asses who want people like me to get this crap fixed.....but can't take the time to fill out a 5 minute complaint. And....................Even though mine will be receive the New TPS this week, it doesn't suffer from this problem.

I'm with Wheat on this one. My 04 has 4700 miles on it and doesn't suffer from the problem as diagnosed by the "product update". I have in the past 4 days seen the bike just stall out while sitting idling at a light twice now. Both times have been random occurrences and I have not seen it do it again. However, just to be safe I'll be taking my bike to the dealer on Thursday (appointment already made) and they will be doing the product update to it then. I called another dealership and they wanted the recall letter before I brought it in. Therefore, I just said screw that and called the next dealership who was more than willing to take my bike in and change out the part in question with no questions asked.

My bike just stalled out yesterday after I was getting gas. Idle dropped by 500 - 900 and died. I'm going to get it done but anyone have it done already? How long will I be without my bike? And can I do this myself?

I got my letter in mail this past Friday and they said labor was around 1 to 1 1/2 hrs. Going to get mine done in a couple weeks. I've got 22,000 miles on my 05 and no problems with it yet.

Got the letter in the mail now I have to call some dealer.... :no

Oh man, it sure is nice of Yamaha to do this, seeing as I went round and round with a dealership and Corporate yamaha 2 years ago on my R6. Same symptoms, same solution. The dealer kept saying "we cant replicate the problem" yet it happened to me everytime I rode the bike. They eventually sent a corporate service rep out to check my bike, he noticed the fluctuations in the voltage immediately and had them order my part. They replaced it, but then lost 2 screws to my fairing... Just my .02. Good to see them on top of it this time.

my dealer s**** they say oh bring the bike over but you will have to leave it a few days blah blah blah :mad: so I called another dealer and they schedule me right away no need to leave the bike :thumbup

Originally posted by k1972pat I got my letter in mail this past Friday and they said labor was around 1 to 1 1/2 hrs. :confused:

1 to 1 1/2 hours seems about right if you have all the tools and you know exactly what you are doing. Especially if the Smog stuff is out of your bike.....hee hee.

It was only a matter of time. This recall is a government plot to reduce the HP of our bikes. Too many people dieing and running from cops. You will have 20 less HP when you get your bike back.:fact They will use an encrypted code to program your fuel injection and timing. There will be no way to reprogram the unit after they get it. They will also activate the built in ignition kill system so cops can shut you down if you try to run. The GPS unit will also be activated so they can find you if you match a profile of a bike that got away. And they will activate the speed recorder program so they can use that against you in court. They have a hand held device that will pull the speed info right off your bikes computer so you cant lie about going fast. So they will pull you over for nothing and check you speed recorder, if you went way over 100mph you are going to jail. I am not getting mine done cuz it works fine the way it is. Big brother is out of control.

No letter yet. I might take ride down to a dealer in a while and see - since it's so nice out now :) Though one job to stop by first. bluecali-R1: BUT if they activate the GPS system then just think if your bike is stolen they can find it quicker :)

GPS I didnt know thare was a GPS on my bike >>> ! :confused:

Yup, got my letter today from Yamaha. I remember posting about how bad mine was stalling last year and how not many people with '05s had the problem. Well, I guess I'm one of the unlucky ones. So far this season it only happened once, so I'll wait until the season is over to drop my bike off.

Originally posted by bluecali-r1 It was only a matter of time. This recall is a government plot to reduce the HP of our bikes. Too many people dieing and running from cops. You will have 20 less HP when you get your bike back.:fact They will use an encrypted code to program your fuel injection and timing. There will be no way to reprogram the unit after they get it. They will also activate the built in ignition kill system so cops can shut you down if you try to run. The GPS unit will also be activated so they can find you if you match a profile of a bike that got away. And they will activate the speed recorder program so they can use that against you in court. They have a hand held device that will pull the speed info right off your bikes computer so you cant lie about going fast. So they will pull you over for nothing and check you speed recorder, if you went way over 100mph you are going to jail. I am not getting mine done cuz it works fine the way it is. Big brother is out of control. Wow. Just simply wow.:p

got my letter today

I got the letter...but my bikes not on the 05' list. after the E in the Vin my is 65..........not 00 or 000 so I guess being built in 12/04 they new about it and put in the right TPS(s) :rock I never have experience power loss or drop in rpms. Never a stall either. Guess they thought they'd just send out the letter to everyone with a 04' and 05' bike.:dunno

OK guys, as Wheat said about recall vs service bulletin, it is a Yamaha recall. Us guys in the automotive industry, (Wheat and I, as well as a bunch others) know that there is a distinction between service bulletins (given by the manufacturer to the dealership as a "helpful hint" type of thing), and a recall, which we call a "Special Service Campaign". Yamaha does not use the same terminology, their "Service Bulletins" can be a "Recall". I went through this on two "Service Bulletins" on my Roadstar Warrior, and trust me on this, they are full on recalls. If anyone has sustained any type of damages from this defect, that definitely needs to be pursued!! Make no mistake, this is a recall, whether required by NTSB(or any other agency) or volunteered by Yamaha is irrelevent, IT IS A RECALL, and no dealer can refuse the work if your bike is in the vin range, PERIOD :fact :thumbup :thumbup

Thanks for clearing that up Elvis. :thumbup

I see a lot going on in the service manual in dealing with the TPS. Lot's of measurments and such, I'm really not sure what's required and what's not when they do this to our bikes. Anyone have a clear understanding of what they are going to do that can fill us in? :) I was really hoping that I'd never have to have anyone touch my bike but me, but now that's a gonner. How does that make you guys feel? SUCKS if you ask me. Thankfully I know the service manager at my local Yamaha dealer. BAH!

They will install your primary tps and adjust it to 18, which was not the stock setting from the factory. 15 or 16 was the stock setting, 18 is the "new" setting to counter act the detonation the bikes have just off idle at a low throttle setting. The setting of 18 definitly works to stop the detonation but it robs power, well my ass dyno said it robbed power. My tps has been set back to 16.

Originally posted by elviswarrior OK guys, as Wheat said about recall vs service bulletin, it is a Yamaha recall. Us guys in the automotive industry, (Wheat and I, as well as a bunch others) know that there is a distinction between service bulletins (given by the manufacturer to the dealership as a "helpful hint" type of thing), and a recall, which we call a "Special Service Campaign". Yamaha does not use the same terminology, their "Service Bulletins" can be a "Recall". I went through this on two "Service Bulletins" on my Roadstar Warrior, and trust me on this, they are full on recalls. If anyone has sustained any type of damages from this defect, that definitely needs to be pursued!! Make no mistake, this is a recall, whether required by NTSB(or any other agency) or volunteered by Yamaha is irrelevent, IT IS A RECALL, and no dealer can refuse the work if your bike is in the vin range, PERIOD :fact :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup

Originally posted by bender They will install your primary tps and adjust it to 18, which was not the stock setting from the factory. 15 or 16 was the stock setting, 18 is the "new" setting to counter act the detonation the bikes have just off idle at a low throttle setting. The setting of 18 definitly works to stop the detonation but it robs power, well my ass dyno said it robbed power. My tps has been set back to 16. This is good news to me as I have some detonation on the low end.

Originally posted by Corbin This is good news to me as I have some detonation on the low end. I've had none...

Only time I have it is taking off "normal" from a light. So to cure it, I shoot of the hole so to speak. :D

Originally posted by Jackofalltrades I'm with Wheat on this one. My 04 has 4700 miles on it and doesn't suffer from the problem as diagnosed by the "product update". I have in the past 4 days seen the bike just stall out while sitting idling at a light twice now. Both times have been random occurrences and I have not seen it do it again. However, just to be safe I'll be taking my bike to the dealer on Thursday (appointment already made) and they will be doing the product update to it then. I called another dealership and they wanted the recall letter before I brought it in. Therefore, I just said screw that and called the next dealership who was more than willing to take my bike in and change out the part in question with no questions asked. What dealer gave you an appointment already?

I put on my pcIII a while back and it seemed ever since, that is the reason my bike was dying at random times. I would open up the gas tank and usually that would take care of it but I have been going nuts over this for a long time. I have an 04 and am so glad that I read about this. Thanks R1-Forum members and keep up the good information. :rock

Who said the Dealer wont let you install it yourself? :beer :beer

Damn how did you get them to give you that

Originally posted by Wheatman Who said the Dealer wont let you install it yourself? :beer :beer How to adjust....(The Proper way) Clicky (http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=173242)

Originally posted by TONER1 Damn how did you get them to give you that Cause i Know my Shit.....:yesnod :D :D

Originally posted by Corbin This is good news to me as I have some detonation on the low end. No detonation for me either. But I wring the $#!T out of it and spend very little time at idle :dunno

I got my letter from Yamaha.. whoopie! I think.. Will this screw up my custom map that I had completed like 1 month ago?

I got my TPS as well in my hand... its not what you know its who you know.

Originally posted by onefastmx5 I got my TPS as well in my hand... its not what you know its who you know. Lucky bastids :mad:

Hey thanks wheatman now all I need is a cool dealer you da man

Wow, I'm glad I found this thread. Mine started dying a month ago, but I went TDY for 3 weeks before I could do much research. I tore it all apart but couldn't find any the source myself. Good news - the local dealer will fix it..bad is they don't stock the damn part.

Originally posted by Hardkore007 Wow, I'm glad I found this thread. Mine started dying a month ago, but I went TDY for 3 weeks before I could do much research. I tore it all apart but couldn't find any the source myself. Good news - the local dealer will fix it..bad is they don't stock the damn part. Welcome to the forum!:hellobye You will find that this forum is the number one place to find good info on theses bikes, as well as plenty of useless stuff, but thats why we have a sense of humor!:yesnod :thumbup

If you live in Colorado and are near Colorado Power Sports off of 104th they are getting 20 in stock. Not sure when but after talking to them and showing them the tech notes they are going to take care of mine. It's funny that they knew nothing about the recall. I have been having problems with mine for about a month now so I am glad it is getting fixed. I am the first one on the list to get one as of yesterday so if you need one call the and they will take care of you. Later

So to get the recall TPS sensor one only needs to go to the dealer and tell them they want the TPS replaced? And if the bike is one of the recalls, they will change it free of charge? Wont be trying to charge me? Just checking. Thanks.

I got a letter in the mail today from yamaha here it is...

I had my TPS replaced yesterday. They took out their instructions, told me the bike needed to cool for about 30 min and then started working on the bike. It took them about 1 hour to finish. I never singed anything and they never gave me anything to take home. They did however stamp my frame that the work was done... Nice crew and they knew what they were doing... Pasadena Yamaha.

They shouldn't charge you for anything. If they do, tell them to :finger themselves. Everywhere that I called, I spoke to the service department - obviously, and they all knew about it. Well I was 2 for 2. ALBA Action sports in Poway, CA is getting a load in soon. Hopefully that will really fix the problem and I could get on with enjoying my bike again. Mine has been acting up for about 6 months and I would talk to people and nobody would have any idea what was wrong.

oh, you guys didn't get the memo? yamaha is putting cover sheets on all TPS reports now... :p

Hmm, I have an 06 R1 with a huge lack of torque, could a bad TPS cause this?? I posted a thread but had no responses on it yet ; http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=173373 any thoughts?

I think it would help out if everyone posted which dealership they used and who they talked to there. I haven't done mine as of yet, but will soon. I think we should post. Dealership name (include State/City) Contact person if applicable Rate of how the service was from a scale of 1-10 Trying to make it easier for our fellow riders. Thanks!

Got the letter a couple days ago. Called the dealer. I-90 Motorsports Seattle, WA area Said they didn't have any in stock but would order with my name on it and call me to schedule replacement. Haven't had a problem myself yet. 13,300+mi. MFG Date 11/04 I'll get it done. It's free and may save an accident down the road as some have mentioned.

Got my letter today! In the San Diego area, now gotta see who I'm gonna call for the work. Tarl

just had recall done on my 05....went to pasadena yamaha and they did a great job with no hassle what so ever. very happy

Any Canadian R1 owners get the recall letter yet?

Originally posted by canadaman123 oh, you guys didn't get the memo? yamaha is putting cover sheets on all TPS reports now... :p :bow :bow :bow <---- to you for being the 1st to think of this :D

Add mine to the list.... Damn - My old TPS was modded.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/TL1000R/R1/Power%20Plate/TPSConnections1Medium.jpg

Hello all newb here. This is great resource.:thumbup After reading the thread . Told my buddy about the TPS problem with the 04 . he just got his letter. Anyone with the 06 have TPS issue?

Originally posted by Tarl Got my letter today! In the San Diego area, now gotta see who I'm gonna call for the work. Tarl North County Yamaha

Originally posted by canadaman123 oh, you guys didn't get the memo? yamaha is putting cover sheets on all TPS reports now... :p BTW have you seen my stapler. Got my TPS done. Took a day to get my bike back.

Beware guys! I just brought my '05 R1 to the same Yamaha dealer where I bought my bike and they *****ED it all up...Now I am experiencing the *unstable engine idel*. Basically, at idle, the rpm is unstable and would fluctuate so low that it would just die! Now I have to bring it back to them and complain about the issue...If it is not resolved, I was thinking of contacting Yamaha Corporation Headquarters directly and explain to them what is going on and how STUPID this sounds! Has anyone had it done yet????

Originally posted by khmai_guy Yup just received the letter today from Yamaha. Looks like mine is one of the recalls. ditto

sorry 4 double post, but did anyone go to Mission motorsports 4 this yet?TIA:hellobye

my bike is build 1/05 and i got the recall 7.2k miles and havent had a problem, made the run out to champion yamaha/honda thye wanted the letter so they can order the part. anyone took their bike there yet?

I got my letter last week, called my dealer for a second time today they still have not recieved the parts yet. I'm in no hurry though, 4500 miles and no problems yet. Just subscribing to see how everyone does.:corn

I am with the others that are waiting for awhile. I was in a nasty accident and have now healed, but the bike has suffered a different fate and is sitting waiting for some parts. So, maybe around Thanxgiving before I take it in. Hopefully to let them work out some kinks.

I bought mine second hand so I doubt I will see a letter, but I am curious to see if my bike is part of the recall. I have no issues with my idle, with only 3600 miles well see what happens.

I contacted Yamaha Australia via their web portal and they seem to have a different view of the world - so as I indicated in my reply email to them I have made a bit of noise and sent this to our local media: "I have a 2004 YZF-R1 that I purchased new in late 2004. I became aware of a problem with the Thottle Position Sensor (TPS) via an R1 specific forum (www.r1-forum.com) that was attributed to a high number of engine cut outs on 04 and some 05 R1's. Yamaha Motor USA has recently (27 July 2006) issued a Technical Bulletin that instructs dealer to replace all sold and stock TPS units in the affected ranges regardless of whether the symtoms have been seen or not (all 2004 and early 2005 R1's). I contacted Yamaha Motor Australia Customer Relations via email asking if they had a programme to do the same and I got this "courteous" reply: "We thank you for the information however we have already taken the appropriate action for our market." Clearly this surprised me as I have not received any advice of any action (being an 04 R1 owner!). I pointed this out and requested details of the "action" but have received no reply. The TPS units fitted to USA R1's and Australian R1 are the same - any argument along the lines of "not a problem here mate" are nul and void. Yamaha Motor USA obviously believe it is significant enough of an issue to order all units replaced (just short of a "recall") - I find it amazing that Australia does not, especially as there have been reported incidents in Australia! I have attached the US Tech Bulletin and the links to the threads on the R1 Forums. http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98831 (The thread that first highlighted the issue to me) http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172634 (The announcement of the Tech Bulletin) http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=166294&highlight=cut+out (This is about Australian R1's) I love my R1 and am keen to see the 07 model with a view to purchasing one - but frankly if this is how Yamaha Australia react to such an important issue then maybe a Honda is safer." jdm

Originally posted by Jstarz600 I bought mine second hand so I doubt I will see a letter, but I am curious to see if my bike is part of the recall. I have no issues with my idle, with only 3600 miles well see what happens. I'm in the same boat. I have an '05 R1 that was built 11/04 I'm pretty sure mine is involved in the recall. How would I know if it's already been taken care of by the previous owner?

There should be a stamp mark (punch) before or after the VIN number.

Originally posted by Corbin There should be a stamp mark (punch) before or after the VIN number. Well, there's definately nothing noticable, so I'm guessing it hasn't been done. Thanx for the reply. Anybody from the Tampa area know how long it's taking Barneys to get these things done?

BINGO! After Two Wheels contacted them (perhaps the timing WAS coincidental): Dear Jason, The necessary information has been sent to all Yamaha dealers. Unlike the US market we requested the dealers to contact customers to have the rework actioned. We apologise on behalf of Actions Motorcycles if this has not occurred. Please contact Action to have the work completed. Regards, Yamaha Motor Australia Service Department

Well, went down to Barneys in Tampa today and asked them about it and they ordered the part without even looking at my bike. They said it will be in, in 5-7 days and then a day to do it. All they did was get the milage off my bike. The guy that walked out the door as I walked in just got his finished, so I guess they're used to doing it.

please check this thread and tell me what do you think? http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=173365&perpage=20&pagenumber=2#newpost

I just got the TPS work completed at the dealer & she runs like shit idle bounces up & down, opening throttle off idle into lower RPM's is choppy - WTF happened ? never had a problem previously

Originally posted by GAMBLER I just got the TPS work completed at the dealer & she runs like shit idle bounces up & down, opening throttle off idle into lower RPM's is choppy - WTF happened ? never had a problem previously Do you have a custom map? If so, you may need to play with it a tad.

Originally posted by Kilowatts BINGO! After Two Wheels contacted them (perhaps the timing WAS coincidental): Dear Jason, The necessary information has been sent to all Yamaha dealers. Unlike the US market we requested the dealers to contact customers to have the rework actioned. We apologise on behalf of Actions Motorcycles if this has not occurred. Please contact Action to have the work completed. Regards, Yamaha Motor Australia Service Department You bastard! In your PM you said you were gonna stir some $hit, but I can't belei9ve you got the response in 2 days! Top work Jason :thumbup :bow :bow :bow Does this mean I'll be getting a lewtter from Yamaha Australia soon? Yours wasn't buggered was it? And they'll change it despite you not having any problems? And will it be a free install?? Peter

Originally posted by Corbin Do you have a custom map? If so, you may need to play with it a tad. yes please elaborate ? where to start, what to do ?

Originally posted by GAMBLER yes please elaborate ? where to start, what to do ? Yes, please do, I have one as well and I'm about to get mine done.

Just contacted the dealer and told them about the R1 TPS recall. They asked my VIN #. Checked it and said it needs to be done. Ordered parts and will schedule a time for work. So far so smooth. We will see.

Originally posted by GAMBLER yes please elaborate ? where to start, what to do ? Sorry for the late response Gambler, looks like you got the needed info from the other thread. I didn;t say that from personal experience as mine goes in monday am. I said that based from what I have been reading from others that have had it done.

I had already replaced the TPS prior to getting the Service Bulletin. I went to the dealer with the old TPS & bulletin in hand and asked them to replace it with the new part # unit. Dealer said no prob. That was painless....almost. Anyway I think I'm going to swap the upper TPS out with the new one from the dealer.

i am taking mine in tomorow morning as i am scepticle about other people working on my bike, they would not just gimmie the part for free they said they would have to install it. I even told them to charge the manufacturer for the hours billed i dont care, but they wouldnt so i am taking mine in tommorow morning and i am going to hover over the mechanic like a hungry vulture, make sure he is not taking any joy rides or accidently break something and just put it back on..... I think that is stupid if there is a recall we should have the option to get the part for free and put it on our selves if we want to thats bull......

Originally posted by GAMBLER I just got the TPS work completed at the dealer & she runs like shit idle bounces up & down, opening throttle off idle into lower RPM's is choppy - WTF happened ? never had a problem previously They more than likely left the old seal in the tps cavity. It's right in the service bulletin that those symptoms will occur if the old seal is left in.

Just got my bike back from the dealerand rode her home. Did not notice a difference except it started better. I will be riding it more Saturday night so well see what she does. Dealer information: Colorado Power Sports 303-427-9000 off of 104th in Thornton Talked to Jeremy at the service counter... Great guy!! They do have more in stock incase you are in Colorado and need it done.

Originally posted by GAMBLER I just got the TPS work completed at the dealer & she runs like shit idle bounces up & down, opening throttle off idle into lower RPM's is choppy - WTF happened ? never had a problem previously Does she run like this??? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/bill2drunk/th_Stallingoutafterriding1minuteor1thm.jpg (http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/bill2drunk/?action=view¤t=Stallingoutafterriding1minuteor1thm.flv)

Will the new TPS screw up a custom map??? I am not having any problems with my bike, and I don't want to get my map all messed up.

You should be able to reload it with out to many problems

Originally posted by Bill2Drunk Does she run like this??? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/bill2drunk/th_Stallingoutafterriding1minuteor1thm.jpg (http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/bill2drunk/?action=view¤t=Stallingoutafterriding1minuteor1thm.flv) thats exactly what mine did. I will never go back to North Texas Yamaha again. I got it back and after a 5 minute ride I noticed it. I brought it back and it took them another day to get it right. When I went back the second time to pick it up, THEY FORGOT MY TANK BOLT. WTF else did they forget inside my motor? And the best part is, the guy who put the bolt in my tank said "well, i guess i should have test ridden the bike after it was fixed the first time"... no shit, ya think?

I installed my TPS. Damn EPA for making Yamaha use "Safety" torx bolts. I changed mine to allen heads when reassembling. BTW, removal of the throttle bodies is not necessary. I was able to access the top TPS mount bolt once the air box was off and the bottom bolt to the TPS via the side by removing the black accent piece between the cowling on the LH side. Hope your throttle bodies were not as dirty as mine were. I used CRC electrical motor cleaner to clean the grime off them and finished with a silcone spray to prevent any corrosion. I also took the time on Cali model to remove the carbon cannister, it is pretty tight on the LH side of the engine bay but once removed, gives you ample room to locate wiring, especially if you have a Power Commander, not to mention the 3 pounds saved approximately. That's all

bike's running fine but its going in for the recall. hope everything goes well. *knock on wood*

Originally posted by ciaka Just contacted the dealer and told them about the R1 TPS recall. They asked my VIN #. Checked it and said it needs to be done. Ordered parts and will schedule a time for work. So far so smooth. We will see. So the TPS issue is effecting 06 models too :( What is manf date of your 06? I'm not having any issues described here but I don't want to miss a recall and have a problem down the road either ... My 06 was manf 10/05

Originally posted by V-MAN So the TPS issue is effecting 06 models too :( What is manf date of your 06? I'm not having any issues described here but I don't want to miss a recall and have a problem down the road either ... My 06 was manf 10/05 I haven't heard anyone say 2006 is effected as of yet. It wouldn't suprise me if it is. But again....not everyone will ride 5,000 miles the first year either. Maybe around this time next year....people with the 2006 will give us an answer.

Originally posted by GAMBLER I just got the TPS work completed at the dealer & she runs like shit idle bounces up & down, opening throttle off idle into lower RPM's is choppy - WTF happened ? never had a problem previously I don't have a problem with TPS, idle is smooth, but my dealer told me that all 04s are affected. Ok I will bring it in, but i'm worried that my bike might end up like GAMBLER's. I have the BMC w/Factory Pro stacks and PC3 and i'm worried that if my bike ends up like GAMBLER's after installing the new TPS, the dealer will blame it on the PC3 or other Mods. I don't have a custom map, just a map that was downloaded from the PC website. Questions: Will I get hassled if my bike ends up not running right after the new TPS is installed? If there is an idle problem after the new TPS is installed, is the dealer responsible to fix/adjust the problem? Note: My bike runs great, also I never received a recall letter from Yamaha. Also, I know the saying 'if it's not broke, don't fix'...or something like that:sneaky but it's recommended by the dealer to fix:fact

alrite, i just got my bike back from champion mototcycles in costa mesa, and i guess everything went well. bike runs like it did when i broguht it in. couple fingerprints and a slightly dirty seat but i need to wash my bike anyways. i didnt get my frame stamped... or is this not a common thing? process took just over an hr

Originally posted by Bill2Drunk I haven't heard anyone say 2006 is effected as of yet. It wouldn't suprise me if it is. But again....not everyone will ride 5,000 miles the first year either. Maybe around this time next year....people with the 2006 will give us an answer. I was going by ciakka avatar bike description - Bike: 2006 YZF-R1 LE That is/was the first 06 I've seen too. :dunno My odo is getting close to the 5K, couple more weeks. Have to wait and see, I won't call the dealer unless I start to have issues or get a recall by mail I guess?

My bike is in the range. I didn't receive a letter because the dealer forgot to record the details of the VIN... thanks guys for this thread. I'm going to record the factory closed TPS setting before dropping it off... in case it is below the set 18 and adjust back if needed (thanks Wheat!!)

Originally posted by Bill2Drunk Does she run like this??? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/bill2drunk/th_Stallingoutafterriding1minuteor1thm.jpg (http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/bill2drunk/?action=view¤t=Stallingoutafterriding1minuteor1thm.flv) Yamaha Corp. called me today and said that they did tests on my bike and that it DOES NOT have a stalling out problem and that they will not cover any damages from my crash and that the bike is out of warranty. But they offered to replace the TPS. I told them to leave the bike as is and I'll pick them up and take them to court. I will never buy a YAMAHA ever again. That is my bike in the video above....sure looks like it stalls out to me.

how did you crash because of the TPS problem? did you post on a different thread?

Originally posted by justforfun I don't have a problem with TPS, idle is smooth, but my dealer told me that all 04s are affected. Ok I will bring it in, but i'm worried that my bike might end up like GAMBLER's. I have the BMC w/Factory Pro stacks and PC3 and i'm worried that if my bike ends up like GAMBLER's after installing the new TPS, the dealer will blame it on the PC3 or other Mods. I don't have a custom map, just a map that was downloaded from the PC website. Questions: Will I get hassled if my bike ends up not running right after the new TPS is installed? If there is an idle problem after the new TPS is installed, is the dealer responsible to fix/adjust the problem? Note: My bike runs great, also I never received a recall letter from Yamaha. Also, I know the saying 'if it's not broke, don't fix'...or something like that:sneaky but it's recommended by the dealer to fix:fact There was nothing wrong with my bike too ,and i still took it in and got it back the same day.The bike runs good and they said that the PC3 wont be affected with the chane of TPS.I really think if you get your bike to a dealer that is reputable you wont have any problems and the bike will come back in one peace.But the 2004 R1 has to get its TPS replaced.

Originally posted by bestman77 how did you crash because of the TPS problem? did you post on a different thread? Its all listed on the other trend "cutting out". I was one of the ones who has forced YAMAHA to do this SERVICE BULLITEN.

Well, bike is back after being in the shop for a day. It runs great with no noticeable difference. I can say that despite their sales department in Southern California, Hahm Motorsports is a great dealership. Their service is bar none the best I've had. Their service manager John is top notch and takes care of their customers. Added benefit is they wash your bike for you! Anyhow, in Anaheim California is Hahm Motorsports and I would recommend getting your service completed with them. Keep in mind they are about a week out for appointments, but just let them know that you want them to order your part for you and then just have them call you when it arrives. I gave my bike in yesterday because the part came in on Monday and without an appointment he had my bike finished that same day! Good luck all of you guys with getting your recall service taken care of.

Originally posted by justforfun I don't have a problem with TPS, idle is smooth, but my dealer told me that all 04s are affected. Ok I will bring it in, but i'm worried that my bike might end up like GAMBLER's. I have the BMC w/Factory Pro stacks and PC3 and i'm worried that if my bike ends up like GAMBLER's after installing the new TPS, the dealer will blame it on the PC3 or other Mods. I don't have a custom map, just a map that was downloaded from the PC website. Questions: Will I get hassled if my bike ends up not running right after the new TPS is installed? If there is an idle problem after the new TPS is installed, is the dealer responsible to fix/adjust the problem? Note: My bike runs great, also I never received a recall letter from Yamaha. Also, I know the saying 'if it's not broke, don't fix'...or something like that:sneaky but it's recommended by the dealer to fix:fact UPDATE: Dropped the bike off at 9am and picked it up at 11am. So far, everything still runs great and strong. No hassle, just dropped off and picked up...no questions asked:fact

Originally posted by Bill2Drunk Yamaha Corp. called me today and said that they did tests on my bike and that it DOES NOT have a stalling out problem and that they will not cover any damages from my crash and that the bike is out of warranty. But they offered to replace the TPS. I told them to leave the bike as is and I'll pick them up and take them to court. I will never buy a YAMAHA ever again. That is my bike in the video above....sure looks like it stalls out to me. what i did to get it to stall every time with the new TPS was start it and let it run for a few seconds and then chop the throttle so that it quickly revs to about 4-5000 RPM and then close the throttle. It would then dip down to about 700rpm and then die soon after. take their ass to court, yamaha is pulling way too much bullshit lately.

Originally posted by BottleRocket what i did to get it to stall every time with the new TPS was start it and let it run for a few seconds and then chop the throttle so that it quickly revs to about 4-5000 RPM and then close the throttle. It would then dip down to about 700rpm and then die soon after. take their ass to court, yamaha is pulling way too much bullshit lately. Trust me....I am. My crash happened while making a right turn...halfway through the turn the bike stalled out and the rear tire locked up and threw me off balance causing it to lay down.

I have a 2004 R1, imported by an independent shop from the USA.It never gave me any problems, but anyway I wrote to Yamaha here to ask about this recall.They said that only the USA models are being recalled and since mine wasn't imported by them that they wouldn't do anything. I'm so pissed, because the only reason I bought an independent import R1 , with no factory warranty is because Yamaha did not have any Blue 2004 R1 imported , just a few silver ones, and I mean a few: my town has 400.000 residents and got 01 R1 only in 2004!!!!!!! That's plain stupid market policy !! They aren't bringing the R6 which is the most technologically advanced sportbike available today !! I hope Honda releases R1 or R6 killers next year, so I can get one.Here Honda has lots of bikes, always available in reasonable amounts, more dealers. It's a pity, because I love the looks and feel of both the R1 and the R6, but Yamaha here sucks bigtime!! I just keep hoping mine won't get the TPS failure problem ever. Thank god it still hasn't.

Originally posted by rkawano I have a 2004 R1, imported by an independent shop from the USA.It never gave me any problems, but anyway I wrote to Yamaha here to ask about this recall.They said that only the USA models are being recalled and since mine wasn't imported by them that they wouldn't do anything. I'm so pissed, because the only reason I bought an independent import R1 , with no factory warranty is because Yamaha did not have any Blue 2004 R1 imported , just a few silver ones, and I mean a few: my town has 400.000 residents and got 01 R1 only in 2004!!!!!!! That's plain stupid market policy !! They aren't bringing the R6 which is the most technologically advanced sportbike available today !! I hope Honda releases R1 or R6 killers next year, so I can get one.Here Honda has lots of bikes, always available in reasonable amounts, more dealers. It's a pity, because I love the looks and feel of both the R1 and the R6, but Yamaha here sucks bigtime!! I just keep hoping mine won't get the TPS failure problem ever. Thank god it still hasn't. same here....no Yamaha dealer sell R1....here is worst....Yamaha only sell moped here......:lol :lol :lol no big bikes here....i imported my R1 myself and helped by independent importer.... no problem found ...i hope it wont have any problem....

just got my tps repalced today @ pasadena yamaha, it took a hour and a half those guys are total pros. the throttle seems tighter, crisper

Originally posted by ridefasteR1 just got my tps repalced today @ pasadena yamaha, it took a hour and a half those guys are total pros. the throttle seems tighter, crisper I got my bike back yesterday afternoon and she runs like a top. I noticed that it starts up a lot quicker, idles smoother and runs great. When I picked it up at the dealership they told me my bike was the first TPS replacement they had done. I couldn't stop myself from asking if they were sure they did it right and they showed me the manual and the bulletin they had concerning the replacement. There were about five other bikes after mine waiting to get the TPS replaced. I also figured now was as good a time as any to change the plugs and airfilter. Honestly, it's like a brand new bike.

Just got mine back a couple of minutes ago. Same as everybody else. Runs fine, and starts easier. One thing I did notice though. I had my stock map running on my PCIII because it was running a little off before with the modded map, but with the new TPS the modded map runs freakin awesome. So that's good new to me.

Originally posted by rkawano I have a 2004 R1, imported by an independent shop from the USA.It never gave me any problems, but anyway I wrote to Yamaha here to ask about this recall.They said that only the USA models are being recalled and since mine wasn't imported by them that they wouldn't do anything. I'm so pissed, because the only reason I bought an independent import R1 , with no factory warranty is because Yamaha did not have any Blue 2004 R1 imported , just a few silver ones, and I mean a few: my town has 400.000 residents and got 01 R1 only in 2004!!!!!!! That's plain stupid market policy !! They aren't bringing the R6 which is the most technologically advanced sportbike available today !! I hope Honda releases R1 or R6 killers next year, so I can get one.Here Honda has lots of bikes, always available in reasonable amounts, more dealers. It's a pity, because I love the looks and feel of both the R1 and the R6, but Yamaha here sucks bigtime!! I just keep hoping mine won't get the TPS failure problem ever. Thank god it still hasn't. Where your bike is doesn't change the serial number or the fact that the TPS is known to be defective. Go to the top and write a letter to the most important person you can find. Don't get mad, just tell them you want it taken care of since it is known to be defective. Most manufacturers generally want this to just go away and someone will be told to take care of you.

ah damn it i just changed mines like a month or two ago and bike runs like a champ still. wonder if i can can get a refund since its a recall item now?

week since my TPS replacement form the dealer. and rided about 60 miles. so i just notice today when i was going over my bike... a screw caught between the tank and the side panel on the right side... WTF where is this screw from?

Looks like the one that holds that black heat shield to your gas tank on the side. Make sure you don't just pull off the heat shield though, it slides back toward the seat, then pull out.

Originally posted by AmpliFyre week since my TPS replacement form the dealer. and rided about 60 miles. so i just notice today when i was going over my bike... a screw caught between the tank and the side panel on the right side... WTF where is this screw from? Look at the lower sides of your bike. Where the side panels mounts in.

Originally posted by AmpliFyre week since my TPS replacement form the dealer. and rided about 60 miles. so i just notice today when i was going over my bike... a screw caught between the tank and the side panel on the right side... WTF where is this screw from? If you have bits and pieces left over, I'd be going dtraight back to the dealer and telling them that they F*#ked up. Why should you have to do the guess work? If it wasn't there before you took it in, one of the monkeys probably dropped it and forgot to get it out Good luck.

I took mine in for the replacement today, pickeed it up around noon time and went for about a 50 mile ride (long lunch). :lol One thing I did notice, like others have said is better throttle response.

Humm I guess I better get my butt in gear and get mine done too.

took mine in today. course had bike stripped down on trailer and i use to work for this dealer. so took about 10 minutes to replace it and stamp frame.

Where is the tps located on the bike?

on throttle bodies, on left side, under airbox, tank and such.

Originally posted by C5-R1 I took mine in for the replacement today, pickeed it up around noon time and went for about a 50 mile ride (long lunch). :lol One thing I did notice, like others have said is better throttle response. Yes definitly better throttle respone. Bike is much more responsive after replacement.

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Stopped in tonight and parts are on order

Originally posted by AndyC Stopped in tonight and parts are on order Andy, where are you getting the work done?

Originally posted by CrazyRED Looks like the one that holds that black heat shield to your gas tank on the side. Make sure you don't just pull off the heat shield though, it slides back toward the seat, then pull out. nope, wasnt that one.... both sides are screwed in.... any other locations, i might just take the bike in if i cant figure otu where it came from... its a philip head screw...

Originally posted by AmpliFyre nope, wasnt that one.... both sides are screwed in.... any other locations, i might just take the bike in if i cant figure otu where it came from... its a philip head screw... I can't think of any other places that has a black philips head. At least not a metal philips head.

I just stopped in my local dealer and they said they had to order the part. They said it should be no problem to get it worked in. After looking up the Vin to verify it needs the new TPS, their like this bike is registered to **** *****. I said yeah , I just bought the bike from him this past saturday. Well, then the story changes to I will have to drop the bike off and they will have it for about a week and a half. First come First served, so I will get put in the back of the line of all other customers and they will get to mine. I guess I need to look for another stealer to do the work. I'm not about to give them my bike for that long for a 1 1/2 job. Rant Over!:machinegu

Originally posted by RealDeal75 I just stopped in my local dealer and they said they had to order the part. They said it should be no problem to get it worked in. After looking up the Vin to verify it needs the new TPS, their like this bike is registered to **** *****. I said yeah , I just bought the bike from him this past saturday. Well, then the story changes to I will have to drop the bike off and they will have it for about a week and a half. First come First served, so I will get put in the back of the line of all other customers and they will get to mine. I guess I need to look for another stealer to do the work. I'm not about to give them my bike for that long for a 1 1/2 job. Rant Over!:machinegu What reason did they give for having to hold your bike for a week and a half? Why can't they just tell you the day they are going to service it and bring it in then?

Originally posted by C5-R1 What reason did they give for having to hold your bike for a week and a half? Why can't they just tell you the day they are going to service it and bring it in then? That's kind of what I thought. Set me up a appointment and let me bring it in. They won't put me in line till I bring it to them. I think it's jus because I didn't buy from them.

Got mine done, pretty painless.

Well, dealer just called a couple days ago and said that they got the parts to do the TPS replacement under recall. Will have to schedule an appointment to do this. Wonder where exactly I should expect them to work on the bike (where are the parts located and what will they need to touch to get them replaced)? I will be asking them exactly what and how they will be doing this to make sure I know everything they will touch. Hope it is painless too. It is like a family member going for a kidney transplant.

Had mine done 3 days ago. Dropped off at around noon picked it back up at around 3:00. Pretty painless and can tell that it has better throttle responce than before. Starts up a little quicker as well.

DONE. They told me on Tuesday am that they will need to keep the bike til Fri. Then on Tue afternoon called saying it is ready. Dont notice anything different (well thought I did in my other thread but now I think it is strictly psychological). One less thing to worry about. Good luck to others.

Took the bike in today for a new set of tires (Power's) and an oil change. I showed them the letter I received and they ordered in the part. Probably next week it will come in. I'm curious as well if I get better throttle response. I haven't had any complaints with it currently, but if it improves, I'm all for it! :beer

Ok I read all of this and I need someone to either tell me i'm stupid or that it makes sense: Last night I went down in a low speed corner (40 mph) cuz when I was engine breaking for the turn my bike started to sputter and lurch back and forth and ultimately stalled in the turn. I couldn't keep control of the bike and hit the curb, went down and did some damage to right side fairings. Does this sound like a TPS problem or am I making up excuses for something else entirely? ('05 R1) Thanks for any help

Originally posted by wenzel Ok I read all of this and I need someone to either tell me i'm stupid or that it makes sense: Last night I went down in a low speed corner (40 mph) cuz when I was engine breaking for the turn my bike started to sputter and lurch back and forth and ultimately stalled in the turn. I couldn't keep control of the bike and hit the curb, went down and did some damage to right side fairings. Does this sound like a TPS problem or am I making up excuses for something else entirely? ('05 R1) Thanks for any help Somebody else in this forum had the same thing happen and I believe he is sueing Yamaha for it.

Had mine done last week - only riding I have done is back home in traffic. Seems OK as it was doing the cranky stall when hot in traffic. Aren't they meant to stamp the frame/build plate as a reference. Might have to lift the hood on the bike to check they really swapped in new TPS modules. Any tell tale signs I should look for - part #'s etc ? Thanks. Rich. Sydney Australia

The problem with the TPS in my encounters with it were usually at idle. As long as I was moving it was okay, but I could see your problem if you are engine braking than that might do it cause your shifting down and idle will drop during the shift and decelleration. Good luck with that, I would definitely take it in for the TPS to get changed. It is covered under warranty and yeah I would complain to Yamaha cause I went through similar thing, but I was in first getting into gear at a light and it stalled, since I was in gear it jerked me forward and I bareeeely laid it down. Still sucked though. I looked like such a squid.

Well I just got off the phone with Yamaha and they said the TPS has been recalled on my bike so now the question is whether or not I am going to have to pay for fairings.......A big thanks to everyone on this site because if it wasn't for all of you I would be still trying to find out why my bike did what it did. Hopefully this is in fact the reason too....

Wenzel -- Damn dude sorry to hear that happened. My 05 is going in next Wednesday for the TPS recall -- though my bike runs great now - no problems and I'm at about 8500 miles.

Okay so I called the dealer and they are ordering the parts but I asked him should I take my PCIII off since I paid a good bit of money to get a custom map and don't want it erased... He siad no cause it could change the throttle sensor. I am still very uneasy about this cause I know that they are going to have to reset the factory computer when they install te new TPS. What should I do????:dunno

You can easily save that custom map that was built for you. Connect and load up the software and there's a "save to" button and save it locally on your PC. When you get the bike back just throw back the custom map.

According to one of the ten dealers I called, this is only for some units. VINs ending in 1423 to 3392 are covered for this recall. However, I did find two dealers that will swap out ALL 2004 and some 2005 R1 TPS units at n/c: Yamaha North Hollywood 5626 TUJUNGA AVE., N HOLLYWOOD, CA 91601-1830, Ph: 818-766-6134 CAL COAST MOTORSPORTS 5455 WALKER ST., VENTURA, CA 93003, Ph: 805-642-0900 Still waiting for seven dealers to call me back. That's a shocker. I bought my 2004 R1 used from a friend. He said it's never cut out on him and it seems fine to me. But I'd hate to be in turn 4B and have it drop out (sorry dude!). Guess I'll get it swapped out just in case.

Originally posted by motofabio According to one of the ten dealers I called, this is only for some units. VINs ending in 1423 to 3392 are covered for this recall. However, I did find two dealers that will swap out ALL 2004 and some 2005 R1 TPS units at n/c: Yamaha North Hollywood 5626 TUJUNGA AVE., N HOLLYWOOD, CA 91601-1830, Ph: 818-766-6134 CAL COAST MOTORSPORTS 5455 WALKER ST., VENTURA, CA 93003, Ph: 805-642-0900 Still waiting for seven dealers to call me back. That's a shocker. I bought my 2004 R1 used from a friend. He said it's never cut out on him and it seems fine to me. But I'd hate to be in turn 4B and have it drop out (sorry dude!). Guess I'll get it swapped out just in case. All '04's are included.

Originally posted by CrazyRED All '04's are included. Yup, but just to clarify my point, the "official" Yamaha recall is only those that fall within that VIN range (confirmed that with another dealer). However, some dealers are being cool about it and simply replacing any 2004 TPSs.

Got mine done this week. I noticed that my bike idles @ about 1200 rpm's instead of the 1000 rpm's that it idle @ before the TPS change. Has anyone else experience this?. Should I take it back to have it fixed?. What is the normal idle rpm?. Thanks.

I haven't had mine done yet. Going tomorrow but when I got mine from the fact. it would idle @ around 1100 to 1200. All I did was idle it done some.... It shouldn't hurt it as far as I know.

Originally posted by motofabio Yup, but just to clarify my point, the "official" Yamaha recall is only those that fall within that VIN range (confirmed that with another dealer). However, some dealers are being cool about it and simply replacing any 2004 TPSs. The letter I got said nothing about VIN #'s for the '04's. It said all '04's and '05's with VIN's from ____ to ____

Originally posted by CrazyRED The letter I got said nothing about VIN #'s for the '04's. It said all '04's and '05's with VIN's from ____ to ____ Interesting. I hate dealerships! It's no skin off their noses, why do they have to limit the 04's they do to a series of VINs? Or maybe they just have their info mixed up. Darn it. Anyway, my 04 sounds like one of the pipes is under water, but it runs fantastic and never hesitates or stalls and doesn't idle low. Anyone have one that sounds like that?

Originally posted by motofabio Interesting. I hate dealerships! It's no skin off their noses, why do they have to limit the 04's they do to a series of VINs? Or maybe they just have their info mixed up. Darn it. Anyway, my 04 sounds like one of the pipes is under water, but it runs fantastic and never hesitates or stalls and doesn't idle low. Anyone have one that sounds like that? Why don't you just take the recall letter to them. They have no choice but to fix the '04's, it's not an option for them. Just so you know I'm not BSing you. Here's the actual TSB and the letter that got sent out. ALL '04's are to be replaced. http://www.r1-forum.com/bulletins/yamaha_tps_bulletin.pdf

Originally posted by CrazyRED Why don't you just take the recall letter to them. They have no choice but to fix the '04's, it's not an option for them. Just so you know I'm not BSing you. Here's the actual TSB and the letter that got sent out. ALL '04's are to be replaced. http://www.r1-forum.com/bulletins/yamaha_tps_bulletin.pdf Oh I wasn't doubting you. I was just passing along the info I got from the dealers I called. I never got a letter, I just bought my 2004 R1 from a friend used -- and he said he never received a letter. But thanks for that link. I definitely will be going in to get mine done, even if there is nothing wrong with it, what could it hurt? :thumbup

Well, I was planning on not having the work done, because I had none of the symptoms... but lo and behold, the other day my 04 R1 stalls. Now, just about every other ride, or randomly on rides, it stalls when idling. Got my letter saying "Yamaha has determined that the TPS on 2004 and some 2005 models may not function correctly", and off to the shop I go. As long as they properly fix it, I'm still a happy camper.

Well to give everyone who wants it an update, the dealership has ordered the TPS and is sending an appraisal to Yamaha along with pics. It will prolly be a week before they decide whether they are gonna fix the damage. Then if they decide to it will prolly be another week before they start working on it. So this will more than likely be at least a three wk process when it's all said and done. Does this seem normal? Cuz I def miss my baby already....

Originally posted by wenzel Well to give everyone who wants it an update, the dealership has ordered the TPS and is sending an appraisal to Yamaha along with pics. It will prolly be a week before they decide whether they are gonna fix the damage. Then if they decide to it will prolly be another week before they start working on it. So this will more than likely be at least a three wk process when it's all said and done. Does this seem normal? Cuz I def miss my baby already.... Well, either that or you pay out of your pocket right?