Wheat 08-15-2006, 07:36 PM After replacing the primary TPS....Turn off the main switch and engine stop swith.
Disconnect the Fuel wire harness connector.
While simutaneousley pressing and holding the reset and select buttons, turn the main switch on.
The Meter should read "Diag" mode after 8 seconds.
Select diagnostic code 01 (Throttle Angle) The throttle angle will display on the right display of the meter assembly.
Turn the TPS until the Throttle angle indicates the proper Specifications....YZF-R1: 18 (My stock one was 16, i set it to 18)
Wheat 08-15-2006, 07:37 PM Fully open Throttle should read 95-100
Wheat 08-15-2006, 07:38 PM The range chart.....
streetjester 08-15-2006, 07:43 PM nice job wiped.
PowerJunkie 08-15-2006, 07:43 PM You are "the man"!
Any advantage between 90-100 setting? At 1st glance it seems I'd want to shoot for 100, but what does that mean?
Wheat 08-15-2006, 07:45 PM Old TPS on the Right.....:thumbup
Wheat 08-15-2006, 07:50 PM Originally posted by PowerJunkie
You are "the man"!
Any advantage between 90-100 setting? At 1st glance it seems I'd want to shoot for 100, but what does that mean? I cant Fully answer that with how Yamaha sets they're TPS. But it more important on closed trottle than full open...Thats why i set mine to what its was since i had No problems with the old one....
flatout 08-16-2006, 10:15 AM Has anyone run their bike on the dyno before and after the TPS was replaced?
s4iscool 08-16-2006, 04:00 PM Originally posted by flatout
Has anyone run their bike on the dyno before and after the TPS was replaced? yeah 15hp increase
GAMBLER 08-24-2006, 08:47 AM Wheat
previously zero issues - custom map
TPS replaced per recall - now, bike has unstable idle - RPM's bouncing
coming off idle into lower RPM's choppy
?
Wheat 08-26-2006, 11:56 AM Originally posted by GAMBLER
Wheat
previously zero issues - custom map
TPS replaced per recall - now, bike has unstable idle - RPM's bouncing
coming off idle into lower RPM's choppy
? Soory its took so long to respond....Mine had a dead spot after i preplaced it. Since then i have set mine to 18, when i get home today i plan on reloading my map, hope its better. If not i'm gonna put the old one back on!!!!
ROne21 08-26-2006, 12:09 PM :thumbup
kazarw 09-28-2006, 07:28 PM My TPS was installed by the dealer and, its set to 18 as I confirmed. By bike is definately sluggish on the throttle response, compared to before. If I adjsut it to 16 will I get back my snappy throttle repsonse? Seems like my tinming has ben retarded...Also do I need to do anything to my PCUSB, like reset the throttle closed and open settings?
Wheat 09-29-2006, 01:14 PM Originally posted by kazarw
My TPS was installed by the dealer and, its set to 18 as I confirmed. By bike is definately sluggish on the throttle response, compared to before. If I adjsut it to 16 will I get back my snappy throttle repsonse? Seems like my tinming has ben retarded...Also do I need to do anything to my PCUSB, like reset the throttle closed and open settings? I set mine to 18 and reloaded my map, Runs Great!
Robwhen29 09-30-2006, 01:52 AM I have 2005 r1 and received the recall notice and I seem to have no problems with my idle being to lower or jumpy.
Is that something that will happen later on?
I guess what i am asking is should i get my tps replace anyway even if there is nothing wrong with it at the moment?
If i do decide to get it done how long does it take the dealership to finish the job?
ciaka 10-01-2006, 08:47 PM Originally posted by Robwhen29
I have 2005 r1 and received the recall notice and I seem to have no problems with my idle being to lower or jumpy.
Is that something that will happen later on?
I guess what i am asking is should i get my tps replace anyway even if there is nothing wrong with it at the moment?
If i do decide to get it done how long does it take the dealership to finish the job?
They will let the bike cool down first (about 30-60 mins).
Then they will take about 30-45 mins to replace the TPS (if the guy knows what he is doing).
Then they will adjust it.
Then they are done.
Robwhen29 10-02-2006, 02:55 AM Originally posted by ciaka
They will let the bike cool down first (about 30-60 mins).
Then they will take about 30-45 mins to replace the TPS (if the guy knows what he is doing).
Then they will adjust it.
Then they are done.
Thanks
tony7521 10-31-2006, 02:05 PM My TPS was installed by the dealer and, its set to 18 as I confirmed. By bike is definately sluggish on the throttle response, compared to before. If I adjsut it to 16 will I get back my snappy throttle repsonse? Seems like my tinming has ben retarded...Also do I need to do anything to my PCUSB, like reset the throttle closed and open settings?
Hey kazarw,
did you end up resetting the throttle closed and open settings? Since getting my TPS replaced I've got a dead spot at 5k. I noticed when hooking up the PCUSB to my computer at closed throttle the PCUSB reads 2% throttle. My TPS is now set to 17 and I have no idea what it was before. I might try resetting the throttle settings but I haven't figured out how to get the full open setting without redlining the bike...
Wheat 10-31-2006, 02:12 PM I might try resetting the throttle settings but I haven't figured out how to get the full open setting without redlining the bike...You set it with the key on/engine off........18/97 is ideal setting.
tony7521 10-31-2006, 02:19 PM You set it with the key on/engine off........18/97 is ideal setting.
I meant how do I get the new open throttle setting for the PCUSB? It won't sync up with my computer unless the engine is running. Also, my TPS setting is 17/97 right now, and I have a feeling the idle setting was a 16. Why did you choose to set yours to 18/97? I know that's what Yamaha suggests, but they've been wrong before.
Wheat 10-31-2006, 02:38 PM I meant how do I get the new open throttle setting for the PCUSB? It won't sync up with my computer unless the engine is running. Also, my TPS setting is 17/97 right now, and I have a feeling the idle setting was a 16. Why did you choose to set yours to 18/97? I know that's what Yamaha suggests, but they've been wrong before.Setting it at 18 raises the base idol, and does not cause the bike to feel "sluggish" as some have complained about. Its in there heads. If you reload your map, it should set your closed throttle back to 0%.
ciaka 10-31-2006, 03:42 PM After replacing the primary TPS....Turn off the main switch and engine stop swith.
Disconnect the Fuel wire harness connector.
While simutaneousley pressing and holding the reset and select buttons, turn the main switch on.
The Meter should read "Diag" mode after 8 seconds.
Select diagnostic code 01 (Throttle Angle) The throttle angle will display on the right display of the meter assembly.
Turn the TPS until the Throttle angle indicates the proper Specifications....YZF-R1: 18 (My stock one was 16, i set it to 16)
Hey Wheatman, where is that fuel wire harness connector?
And the engine stop switch you are refering to is the red switch on right handle, right? Just confirming this.
Appreciate your help. Thanks.
Wheat 10-31-2006, 03:45 PM Hey Wheatman, where is that fuel wire harness connector?
And the engine stop switch you are refering to is the red switch on right handle, right? Just confirming this.
Appreciate your help. Thanks.On the bottum of the tank, and Yes the Red kill switch..
r8der1 10-31-2006, 06:56 PM :whtfu: I'm taking mine to the dealer tommorow they now have my TPS. So i guess i can expect to have the same problems and have to try and reset it myself.
what settings is anyone using on a 04
kazarw 10-31-2006, 06:59 PM 16/95 is the best setting. 18 yields a voltage that is out of specification per the service manual. 16 put sthe voltage in the middle of the spec range. My bike is musch better when set at 16/95. More responsive and faster acceleration.
:scared
Wheat 10-31-2006, 07:12 PM :whtfu: I'm taking mine to the dealer tommorow they now have my TPS. So i guess i can expect to have the same problems and have to try and reset it myself.
what settings is anyone using on a 0418/97 is the updated specs., youll be fine to take it and have it done..
16/95 is the best setting. 18 yields a voltage that is out of specification per the service manual. 16 put sthe voltage in the middle of the spec range. My bike is musch better when set at 16/95. More responsive and faster acceleration.
:scaredout of specs in the manual that was set for the original sensor...the updated specs are for the new sensor....Trust me when i tell you its all in your head what you feel...:fact
kazarw 10-31-2006, 07:16 PM Ok mR. Wheatman,
What are the voltage specs for the new sensor? Not the range of adjustment,(16-100) I'm looking for the voltage specs as they measure at the connector of the TPS? Should be the same old sensor/new sensor for the voltage specs, as per the service manual.:flex:
Wheat 10-31-2006, 07:22 PM Ok mR. Wheatman,
What are the voltage specs for the new sensor? Not the range of adjustment,(16-100) I'm looking for the voltage specs as they measure at the connector of the TPS? Should be the same old sensor/new sensor for the voltage specs, as per the service manual.:flex:I dont have them in front of me Friend. But i can tell you its an updated sensor and the voltage found in the service manual are not the same for the New TPS. Don't go around with your false info to members that are having theres done by the dealers.
r8der1 10-31-2006, 07:38 PM Thanks Wheat. I am going to talk to the tech that works on my bike and see what setting was used. :thumbup
kazarw 11-01-2006, 04:44 AM I wouldn't call it false info. My data with volatge readings at specific adjustments.
Ok so you don't have all of the information. That's ok just admit it and move on. No need to criticize others for your lack of infomation. If you made the same measurements that I have with a voltmeter at specific adjustments, then you'd have something to comment about.:dundun:
Wheat 11-01-2006, 01:37 PM I wouldn't call it false info. My data with volatge readings at specific adjustments.
Ok so you don't have all of the information. That's ok just admit it and move on. No need to criticize others for your lack of infomation. If you made the same measurements that I have with a voltmeter at specific adjustments, then you'd have something to comment about.:dundun:And what info have you posted on your voltage readings???? Well let me do it for you...Once again the readings are not in Spec. for the New Sensor....
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1572/tpsef1.jpg
filly 10-03-2008, 06:49 PM After replacing the primary TPS....Turn off the main switch and engine stop swith.
Disconnect the Fuel wire harness connector.
While simutaneousley pressing and holding the reset and select buttons, turn the main switch on.
The Meter should read "Diag" mode after 8 seconds.
Select diagnostic code 01 (Throttle Angle) The throttle angle will display on the right display of the meter assembly.
Turn the TPS until the Throttle angle indicates the proper Specifications....YZF-R1: 18 (My stock one was 16, i set it to 18)followed direction but my throttle angle wont change when I move the TPS any thaughts? and what is the voltage on the new tps ?
Wheat 10-04-2008, 08:50 AM followed direction but my throttle angle wont change when I move the TPS any thaughts? and what is the voltage on the new tps ?There is a chance that you have a shot ECU. Try to find one and plug it in and see if the values change.
filly 10-04-2008, 04:39 PM There is a chance that you have a shot ECU. Try to find one and plug it in and see if the values change. got it now wheat....moved it to 18....thanks bro .....looks so far that this might have solved my idle drop going to let it cool again and see and I still have to reset my throttle % on the PCIII it's at 1 right now ...but every thing looks cool so far but I've said that a million times before:lol
SoCal05R1 10-04-2008, 05:18 PM quick ? guys. After going into Diag. mode it just says "Diag" on the screen. How do I get it to cycle through the features?
filly 10-05-2008, 04:36 PM quick ? guys. After going into Diag. mode it just says "Diag" on the screen. How do I get it to cycle through the features?once you hold the two buttons and it go's in to Diag. mode release then press them both again and hold and it will take you there.......
Dudutzu 10-25-2008, 08:24 AM hi guys, nice tread wheat,
so i went to dealership few weeks ago and replaced the TPS, the guy told me that he adjusted it to the new values of the new TPS, so I didnt even bother, but got interested today just to see what the positions are and they're 21 and 101 :-O, and it runs like before to replace the TPS, I mean runs like shit, barely moves under 4k RPMs and idles between 1150 and 1350 according to power commander, so im gonna try to fix it today, I'll try to adjust it to 18/97, see wha's gonna hapen
i'll keep you guys posted
Edit:
well, the job is done 18/97 - good results NO :((
loaded the map... the idle is still choppy, when i try to reset the throttle on PC3 is tells me that the difference between closed and full open is too small, and where is says the throttle position sometimes shows 1, even i just reset the position, and how to get the PC3 connected without having the bike running? tried with the kill switch On and tried w/it OFF and says device not communicating...
tired of this shit
bender 02-04-2009, 05:15 PM Adjust your base to 16. I had my Yamaha dealer set my tps to 18 for a preignition problem and the bikes power went for a shit, I've been riding for 30 years and It wasn't in my head. Uneven idle can happen if the seal was left behind from the first tps and the new one was installed, you could also give your bike a tuneup as it's probably time.
I picked up an 04 last month and just read this thread. I know the bike has been taken in for this recall. Did the check just now and see 16 at closed and 97 at full. Should I still try to set it at 18? im assuming it might be 18/99 afterwards. I do have the lumpy idle.
DEVILSYAM 06-20-2009, 02:29 AM this is a post from the 08/09 thread i'm not spamming as the contents are viable in both threads
tried the diag on the tps today reading was d01:16 closed throttle and full open setting was d70 how from what i have read it should be 18/97 if the new type tps has been fitted next question is how do you achieve the correct setting
is it done via the dash panel or by moving the tps itself?
headshothills 07-09-2009, 05:33 PM Wheat...As always good read. I think this might help. <5k rpm the bike is sluggish. I went through and sync'ed the throttle bodies, made my own Man-o-Meter, and found the bodies were off a great bit. That helped tame the bouncy idle, but it feels soo flat <5k rpm. I got this bike 3rd hand, and the 2nd hand owner had a PCIII he stripped out, but tried to play it off like it never had one.
I have also though about replacing the TPS, since that is what I have read about choppy throttle, before the throt bod syncing, it was jumping anywhere from 500-700 rpms when idling. Ive cut that in 1/2 I would say, but it still isnt as smooth as I would expect..
RayJohns 07-09-2009, 10:03 PM ok... I'm a little lost. I just read through this thread and not 100% clear on what the proper settings should be. I have a 2005 R1 and the throttle position switch recall was done on my bike by the previous owner (the dealer in his area actually). I would like to verify that it's set correctly in the Diag mode.
So when I go into the Diag mode and turn the throttle, it should show a reading for the closed position and also the open position (from what I understand by reading this thread and also by reading through section 7 in the work shop manual).
My questions are:
1. If the recall has been done, what should the readings show in Diag mode?
2. Can the positions be changed via the Diag mode or when people talk about changing from 15 to 16 or 17, are they talking about adjusting the linkage at the throttle or what?
I'm in the middle of doing some other work on the bike, but I would be curious to know what exactly the over view here is and what should be checked and/or adjusted (and how).
Thanks!
Ray
headshothills 07-11-2009, 05:53 PM You bring up a good point. I guess I need to find out if the TPS was replaced on mine. Is there any way to check and verify that? Also, if it is, does it still qualify for replacement, or is it something I have to just purchase and change on my own.. Im rather mechanically inclined, so its not a huge deal. But if I can get someone else to do it for free, it beats the 116 degree weather in the garage here in AZ doing it myself..LOL
DEVILSYAM 07-12-2009, 12:43 AM THE FAULTY tps will start with a 3 in the serial number in the casing of the tps
replacment starts with a 4 series number
mine was not covered by recall so purchased a second hand set on ebay (checking numbers first) and then just swapped them and resold the throttle boddies
took an hour to do
headshothills 07-13-2009, 11:04 AM Well, I went into Diag Mode Last night to check.. mine is reading 16/96...
It was late and I didnt want to mess with it, since its my daily commuter, but I will play with it tonight. I just didnt want to change it, then ride it this morning only to find out it was jacked up.
So, based on prior posts, I should obviously check the TPS Serial number, replace if necessary and adjust my settings to 18/98?? What do you guys think?
The next question is, how do I know if the TPS is having issues. For all I know its been working just fine. What should I be expieriencing to know the TPS is bad. This may sound like a dumb question, but Im coming from the Offroad Motosport industry, CRF, TRX, and YZF, so we didnt have all these extra goodies. The Keihn carb has a TPS on the side of it, but its not something you mess with...LOL
04radojm 07-15-2009, 02:32 PM ok maybe someone can help me i have 06 r1.. i recently got into an accident with and and since then it will not start.. cranks over good, getting spark not sure what to do??? any suggestions???
headshothills 07-24-2009, 03:27 PM Finally adjusted my TPS after picking up those Non-Tamper Torque Tip bits, stock setting from whoever replaced it since it was the new TPS starting with a 4 was 16/96. When I bumped to 18 on closed, it wanted to go to 98 on the WOT, after playing with it for awhile I finally achieved 18/97. I have to say, it definitely helped smooth mine out as compared to 16/96.
Thanks again Wheat!!
djamazon1 09-19-2009, 12:06 PM Wheat you legend! I just got the tps done today. Dealer set to 16/95. I set it to 18/97. And it runs so much better like that. Thanks Again.
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