FS: Chinese SKS

Yeah don't laugh I know it's not motorcycle related. I never use it and I could use the money. It has a foldable synthetic stock, original 10rd internal magazine, 20 or so stripper clips and a little over 1500rounds of ammo (including full original wooden crate of hollow points 1440 rds) Pics as soon as I can borrow my friends camera. Asking 350.00 (will negotiate or accept trades) PM me or email at Looneybomber@hotmail.com Put "SKS" as the subject so I can weed through my junk mail and find it.

Sorry but I have to make fun and ask if this comes with a Shitty Caprice that I can punch a whole in the trunk?....WOO HOO my post-whoring is going to get me flamed this time....=) In all seriousness I had one and wished I had another SKS...kinda inexpensive fun shooter....I didnt have the synthetic but I had a preban with bayonet...LOL for the fun nights hog-poking...=) Good luck on selling her..........:D

man, not even the republicans in full control for 1 day and it's open sales of firearms on the internet.. *wink* Gl selling the shooter :)

yay for the GOP. ha orgnoi... an sks would hardly qualify as a sniper rifle! hahaha. theyre such pieces of commie shit, but a f'load of fun to shoot! sounds like you have a nice one though... i had a chinese sks with an all wood stock. i loved to fire that thing till the barrel smoked. shit, that thing never even jammed!

you know what they say about those Warsaw Pact style weapons...they arent sh*t for accuracy...but you can put a handful of sand in the chamber...put it underwater then freeze it and it will still fire like a charm....LOL I actually got the PRIVILEDGE of carrying an AK when I was in the Army in a Spec Ops team....it was the only full auto weapon we had due to weight restrictions...

How would one go about converting it to a fully automatic? Just curious. ;)

I dont exactly know on an SKS....usually there is a Sear that has to be filed down or replaced with a factory auto setting Sear. once the weapon has been filed though you cannot go back to semi....and run the risk of a runaway....which if it is a surprise can be a little risky....Semi is actually just as fast as you can pull the trigger fast and your aim returns to point on....that is why they got rid of auto on the Armys M-16s and went to Burst...which fired three rounds per pull...

Correct me if I'm wrong but because the SKS was never a full auto weapon converting it to full auto would be a bitch. Not to say it couldn't be done. Just for the hell of it I have a question for all the gun and history enthusists out there. "What was the first standard issue weapon for the United States Army with the ability to change the mode of fire?"

Originally posted by orgnoi1 Semi is actually just as fast as you can pull the trigger fast and your aim returns to point on....that is why they got rid of auto on the Armys M-16s and went to Burst...which fired three rounds per pull... Another reason why the M-16 was converted from full auto to three round burst is because of target fixation. Soldiers in a combat situation would aim at a target and hold down the trigger until the weapon was empty, this wasted ammo and could pinpoint a soldiers position. Also with three round burst soldiers are less prone to "Spray-n-Pray".

Originally posted by shyong How would one go about converting it to a fully automatic? Just curious. ;) I remember seeing a book somewhere that showed you could modify the trigger assymbly or something like that somehow. You could make it in a way that with a small metal pin inserted made it full auto, pull it out and it was semi...I was never interested in converting it though.

Thought I'd ask. If I had a fully automatic assault rifle, it would be for entertainment purposes only. Burst would be nice too.

Just thought I'd toss in that modding any simi to full is VERY illegal. Class III firearms are taken pretty seriously now days, so it's alot harder to just do the backyeard mods for fun and recreation and get away with it. It is possible to get a Cla III firearm legaly, as well as supressors as long as you follow a few simple guidelinne and pay a few extra taxes (thats the important part). You also have to get your local law enforcement to sign off on your having a Class III in their town :fact Anyway, good luck selling that SKS. I'm sure the buyer will be very happy with it.

The first selective trigger grouped weapon the US used was the "Armalite". This was the first version of the gun we know today as the "M-16". :thumbup

Actually I believe it was the M2 carbine of WWII (I suppose it could be the thompson too, I forget when each was adopted). I believe the BAR and greasegun were auto only. The M14 was semi and full for awhile then they were all made semi only due to excessive recoil and the inability to keep ontarget in full. Bryan

Originally posted by Rangerstx Actually I believe it was the M2 carbine of WWII (I suppose it could be the thompson too, I forget when each was adopted). I believe the BAR and greasegun were auto only. The M14 was semi and full for awhile then they were all made semi only due to excessive recoil and the inability to keep ontarget in full. Bryan Ok, the M2 wasn't widely used until Korea, The first Thompsons were select fire, there were a few different models of the BAR, some select fire even one that was full auto but allowed you to select the cyclic rate of the weapon, the M3 (greasegun) was full auto only. And you are correct about the M-14 being a select fire weapon. But, nobody has gotten the right answer yet. (Good answers all around though)

Originally posted by PhiSig1071 "What was the first standard issue weapon for the United States Army with the ability to change the mode of fire?" I think it was it that POS French Sho-Sho Rifle in WWI

You mean the Chauchat? That thing was a piece of trash! It was nor an officially issued piece. It was a french piece of shit that was forced upon our men because we could not build the browning machine guns fast enough. Never adopted though. Bryan

Actually, yes, it was adopted by us and chambered for the .30-06 round. :thumbup

Unfortunately the rechambering tolerances caused it to be highly prone to jamming unless constantly clean and well oiled (of which there was a shortage at the front). The French never understood why we didn't like it because it worked well for them. Also, it was not used because we couldn't get enough BAR's it was used because we didn't have the BAR (in combat) until the final weeks of WWI. The BAR's designator is 1918, the year it entered service. And no, that's still not the right answer. I'll give you a hint, it was carried by the soldiers in basic, but they couldn't change the rate of fire (even if they had been allowed too.)

The Chauchat was shit because the tolerences were so varied that one could not even interchange parts without fitting. The sides of the mag were wide open and the dirt and mud of trench warfare turned many into bolt action repeaters. NOTE: I said nothing about BARs, I said browning machine guns (belt fed). Even in the french caliber, it was not a good gun, the caliber was obsolete years before WWI. What it did do was inspire a new class of portable machine guns unlike the crew served weapons. Carried in basic? Hmmmm. Your not talking about the Peterson device are you? You may be the 1st person to have stymied me in a gun related trivia question. Bryan

No matter who's right or wrong. I'm quite impressed that some of you are actual gun buffs. :thumbup

I'm a friggin gun nut! I have forgotten more than most people will ever know about firearms. I have LOTS of toys.:machinegu Bryan

Originally posted by Rangerstx The Chauchat was shit because the tolerences were so varied that one could not even interchange parts without fitting. The sides of the mag were wide open and the dirt and mud of trench warfare turned many into bolt action repeaters. NOTE: I said nothing about BARs, I said browning machine guns (belt fed). Even in the french caliber, it was not a good gun, the caliber was obsolete years before WWI. What it did do was inspire a new class of portable machine guns unlike the crew served weapons. Carried in basic? Hmmmm. Your not talking about the Peterson device are you? You may be the 1st person to have stymied me in a gun related trivia question. Bryan WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!

Sorry you don't win anything :( but you got it right! During WWI the Army decided that there was a need for the individual soldier to have more firing power when crossing no-mans-land. A gunsmith by the name of Peterson created a bolt that would temporarily replace the stock bolt in the 1903 Springfield which would allow it to fire the internal magazine (5 rounds) at full auto. It was not successful for a couple of reasons. The soldiers were issued a special carrying pouch for the Peterson bolt but they had nowhere to put the stock bolt when using the peterson, so they'd end up losing it, making the rifle pretty useless because of the rate of fire of the bolt. Also it proved very inaccurate because of recoil problems. Regardless of the problems, this device allowed the bolt-action 1903 Springfield to be converted to fully automatic fire (or five shot burst, however you want to look at it) making it the first United States military standard issue weapon with select fire capabilities. BTW Rangerstx, very impressive, I didn't think anyone would have gotten that. :yesnod Good job.

BTW, because the Chauchat was a light machine gun similar in intent to the BAR, and the B in BAR stands for Browning, I thought you meant the BAR. The Browing Machine gun you're talking about (I think, correct me if I'm wrong, when I get technical I tend to sound like an asshole without meaning too) is the 1919A4, it wasn't adopted by the Army until 1919, after the war. The Browning they did have during WWI wasn't a very good machine gun. I don't remember the designator offhand but I do remember the nickname had somehting to do with potato digger or picker or something of that nature because it had a gate style bolt action that extended towards the bottom of the weapon requiring a large trench under the weapon to allow it to operate correctly. I'm also fairly sure it was air cooled without a sleeve or interchangable barrel.

What about the Krag Jorgensen rifle? Although not switching from bolt to semi-auto, it switched from placing a single round in the chamber each shot, to being able to feed with the five round magazine. It did this with a device called a magazine cutoff, common in many bolt rifles. I'm not sure if this could be considered as select fire, but it sure did change how the rifle was fired and the rate of fire as well.

.....6 years later.

PS- the 1903/1903A3 bolt rifles also have a magazine cutoff... (6 years later- this HAS to win some kind of necroposting award!). -Dave

uuhhhhh so? did the guy ever get to sell the gun?

BTW, because the Chauchat was a light machine gun similar in intent to the BAR, and the B in BAR stands for Browning, I thought you meant the BAR. The Browing Machine gun you're talking about (I think, correct me if I'm wrong, when I get technical I tend to sound like an asshole without meaning too) is the 1919A4, it wasn't adopted by the Army until 1919, after the war. The Browning they did have during WWI wasn't a very good machine gun. I don't remember the designator offhand but I do remember the nickname had somehting to do with potato digger or picker or something of that nature because it had a gate style bolt action that extended towards the bottom of the weapon requiring a large trench under the weapon to allow it to operate correctly. I'm also fairly sure it was air cooled without a sleeve or interchangable barrel. The Potato digger was used at the very beginning and up till the end of WWI but was quickly phased out in favor of the the Browning 1917, a larger, water cooled predecessor to the 1919A4. It (1917)was VERY reliable but oh so heavy and hard to move on a moments notice. Purely a static defense weapon. The 1919A6 was the U.S's first foray into belt fed squad autos that was followed by the early M60s in the 60's I love gun threads....:thumbup

FCUK! I remember when this thread was first started! Did he ever sell this shit?

the only problem ive heard or had with a sks being converted to full auto is well once its done theres no going back and at that its you pull the trigger and all rounds are fired even if you let go of the trigger one major fall back of fully auto sks