ticking noise

silverado
12-18-2006, 07:38 PM
I have an '06 R1SE.there is a ticking noise coming from the engine somewhere.It sounds like an exhaust leak but the exhaust is not loose and I can't see any carbon residue on the pipes anywhere.I'v also heard about ticking noises leading up to crank failures.Is this true?should I be concerned about this noise or ignore it?:scared

Sandman
12-18-2006, 08:27 PM
"Search" function top right hand of screen. Please let us know your conclusion after you've read ALL the posts.

metalwizard
12-18-2006, 11:08 PM
nice bike silver... and sandmans right, search tick, ticker, knock, rattle etc you'll get lots of hits. seams the tick at idle is "normal" or at least "typical" mine dose it to, i used to wrendh for a living, it drives me nuts, but the dealers seam to think its the nature of the beast!!! i made sure the documented it in my service record. bought the Y.E.S. 5 year warrentee, if it breaks its their problem, noy mine. P.S. i got almost 4k on mine and its no worse and no better...

1longR1
12-19-2006, 11:10 AM
check exhaust pipe. they can easily crack if bottomed out hard enuff. i had mine do it and had crack in it and had to have it welded up. start bike up and listen or feel exhaust and see if its leaking. if not its yamaha tick in motor. alot of them do it. but we dont know if yours is same noise or exhaust leak.

silverado
12-19-2006, 02:54 PM
I also wrench for a living and this noise is driving me crazy.I can't feel an exhaust leak and the bike has never bottomed out so I don't suspect a cracked pipe.It sometimes sounds like a valve clearance problem,but it's done it since new.there's only 6500km on it and I too have the 5 yr warranty,but i hate the thought of someone else wrenching on my bike.Will do a search and let everyone know what i come up with.Thanks for your help so far!:thumbup

metalwizard
12-19-2006, 09:17 PM
an easy way to listen for ex leaks, get a piece of fuel line a couple feet long stick one end in yor ear then run the other ournd the pipes etc if you got a leak you'll hear it louder then hell in your ear. like i said before, lots of people complain about this noise, and no one has a final answer. if you find it please post it.

silverado
12-20-2006, 06:47 PM
The Yamaha tick almost drove me crazy paraniod but the Akras fixed that & yes the seat is a brick... FOZZ wrote this in a previous post.hope its the fix!

metalwizard
12-20-2006, 08:34 PM
akras?

Speed_Devil
12-20-2006, 09:11 PM
akras? I think he means Acrapovich....or however its spelled?

pantsman
12-20-2006, 10:13 PM
Akrapovic. Loud noise drowns out bad sound, reminds me of my car. Engine sounds funny? Turn up the volume, engine sounds fine again :)

silverado
12-21-2006, 06:27 AM
Akropovic is what he was refering too.Maybe the loud exhaust just muffles the noise or maybe the exhaust pulses are smoother in a high quality pipe,I don't know.I have PM'ed someone on another site who as it turns out was a mechanic with Yamaha Canada and did material analisis on warranty claimed parts.Apparently,he's very good and hopefully he can help with this issue.If he replies I will post his thoughts

Cobra_bill
12-23-2006, 05:27 PM
Make sure you check your EXUP cables. Mine started ticking/rattling after the dealer replaced my waterpump seals. They had to take the exhaust off to do this and they did not tighten the EXUP cables after they re-installed it. I tightened and adjusted the cables and it is quiet again.

clarythedrill
12-26-2006, 12:33 AM
it may sound silly, but the ticking is your pads rattling around in the calipers. if you take your pads out and silicone them to the pistons, and let them set up and then ride, the rattling will go away. at least until the vibrations cause the pads t seperate from the silicone and they start rattling again. ive replaced the pads with aftermarket, and they still rattle. its not your exhaust, as mine did it brand new and after a fully system intall. heres something funny---it doesnt do it on really humid days for some reason? the earlier models had a really thin "shim" between the pads and the pistons, but the 06s dont, and maybe thats the reason they rattle. hope this helps, clary

r1menace
01-04-2007, 03:38 AM
I occassionally get this on my '05 at start up. I found it was someting to do with the EXUP valve. If I give it a good blast with the hose and some WD40 it stops and is fine until it gets covered in crud again.

Raven06AJR
01-05-2007, 02:48 PM
I have this same issue with my 06'. man it drives me nutz. i hate it. i hate it! and the only thing i have found in my searches is: A) Its Normal B) It wont get worst C) It seems to be the valves flapping (ticking to us) and D)...to fix it, put a loud exhaust on it.

Shayne18
01-08-2007, 06:05 PM
I noticed it at about 2000 mi and took it to the dealer thinking it was piston slap or some valve issue and they say it is the injectors. Pretty common sound. I know what you mean though...it'll drive ya nuts and kinda embarrassing with someone on the back 'cause you think they can hear it. Like they say, get them to log it for warranty and I guess it's just the nature of the beast.

r1menace
02-06-2007, 09:03 AM
I've just had mine checked by the dealership under warranty. They found one of the EXUP cables was loose and the other way too tight. As soon as they adjusted it all the noise stopped and I no longer get an initial sluggishness when I first set off in the mornings.

62646
02-14-2007, 08:13 PM
i have been experiencing that since i have owned my its an o6 and i took it back after about 100 miles thinking something was wrong with it said it was normal, still sounds the same at 10k....just yamaha i suppose...

luma
02-15-2007, 02:01 AM
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Dune_UK
02-19-2007, 05:38 AM
What R1 Meanace said. I had a tick and found it to be the EXUP. Dirt about the actuator was causing the vavle not to close properly and so the ECU was trying to close it causing the tick....

Luvvt
08-26-2007, 10:44 PM
Hi Silverado, I have an 06R1 done 4k when the tick started. Starts ticking at 2000RPM and engine noise drones it out after 5000RPM. Me dealer mechanic says it needs the valve clearances done (apparently they shim the valves to get the clearances right). Valve shouldn't need shimming till 20k but due to Yamaha production, tolerances for clearances are not too hot.Me bike goes in to have the valves shimmed in two weeks, Hopefully it dissapears

prettyboy
08-30-2007, 10:30 AM
No No No No No No No! The 'tick' is not feckin normal. If your bike ticks it has a POSSIBLE problem. Do a search for 'tick' and read all threads. In short: If your bike ticks AND (this is the importand bit) the 'tick' appears to be coming from the top LHS of the engine then your engine is a 'ticker'. The LHS bit is important as in the R1 head, the oil feed comes in on the RHS. In other words, the oil flow to the LHS may be insufficient at certain revs causing premature wear on the exhaust valve follower. THis explains why the tick is ALWAYS on the LHS. My bike does not tick (06). If it ever does, then I want Yamaha to sort it with no BS.

Our1
08-30-2007, 09:25 PM
Does anyone notice that it's generally under load? I've never heard mine while parked, only when riding. Prettyboy, what's the fix, since it's not normal?

luma
08-31-2007, 02:05 AM
Yup mine ticks when idleing untill its warm the it will only tick from 7000rpm up until the wind noise droens it out but only under load I can rev the crap out of it while standing and guess what no tick.

archer1
09-02-2007, 04:00 PM
Well I've been reading about R1 engine noise for about a year now and mine was getting really bad. Began to sound like a diesel truck. It had over 23k on it so I took it in for a valve adjustment. The mechanic says it's not valve noise it's a rod knocking and it will only cost $2100.00 plus parts to fix. I'm glad I bought the extended warranty! But 99% of my riding is commuting to work 62 miles a day. So why is my rod bearing shot? Service was always done by the book too. Time for a BMW??? This was the only one of about 7 or 8 Yamaha's I've had to ever develop a serious problem.

lthompson
09-02-2007, 05:09 PM
Ive got 15k on my 05,, never really hear the tick that everyone talks about... I had other noises that i found though.. My headers were rattling at the joints,, causing a tap, because of a lost spring. Fixed that.. And my clutch rattles at idle.. And i had another sound,, seemed deaper than a tick.. i guess it still does it,, been doin it for several thousand miles... Its not noticable unless sitting and reving.. so far so good... I checked my valve clearances a while back and all was good. But ive never seemed to have the tick everyone talks about really.. at least i dont really notice it. a friend has a gixxer 1k,, and that thing is a lot noisier than mine, with less miles. My roomates cbr1k is nice and quiet though.

Luvvt
09-05-2007, 04:15 PM
Yeeeeeaaaaa No more tick Well for me bike it was just a case of shims. Valve clearance was out .020. Me mechanic says this was a reasonable amount and cause was due to general wear or engine bedding in.(read me other post page 2)

MoNkEyZQ8
09-24-2007, 09:54 PM
Yea

stasis88
09-28-2007, 11:45 PM
I asked my dealer about a tapping sound on my 07, he didn't find anything wrong with it and said what I am hearing may be the valves clicking and said that was normal.

r1stunner2007
05-11-2008, 02:27 AM
well ever since i did the smog block off plates i seem to hear the ticking a whol elot more, i really hear it when i get on it at low rpms, it 5 times louder than before i did the plates, at forst when i didd the block offs i had taken out the reed valves out, ran like shit, thought it was just my motor adjusting itself cuz i didnt have the pc3 yet but i got my power commander annd then i put the reed valves back in, its not assss loud but i still hear the ticking, its still louder than befor i started messin with it to begin with, any ideas, i cant hear it after 5k rpms either and i still have all my power, just noisy at lower rpms

AhhWan
08-29-2008, 06:43 AM
I got my R1 brand new in 2006 (2005 model) and after only 3500 miles clear signs of ticking was heard from the engine. I started consulting different Yamaha dealers to get some feedback on why. None of them had the answer - most of them told me it was supposed to sound like that. On the internet I had no luck finding others having same phenomenon. Some weeks ago I met a guy with an RN12-2006 with same mileage and it was absolutely without any ticking at all. So I gave it another shot finding help and luckily found a Yam dealer that had the answer. It appears (without any service-announcement from Yam) that a series of intake-valves lacked proper hardening and hence resulted in much too early ticking due to greater valve clearance (the valve-rod deformed in the end). He mentioned the possibility of changing shims - but that would only result in silence for a short mileage and then it would start again. So this dealer actually changed all intake valves under the 5 years warranty (3000$ repair). Having had a heck of a time finding any help I'm dropping this info here if any of you guys experience the same. In order to have a sound comparison/impression I've posted a Youtube video with before & after example. Its recommended that you listen to it through headphones in order to hear the Hi freq ticks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lz9GLMH_2w Best regards

CaptainSensible
09-04-2008, 10:01 AM
Well done Ahhwan, It always amazes me how many 'mechanics' seem to think that a ticking engine is 'normal'! What bollocks! :nforc: Fortunately my 9K miles '06 does NOT tick, but if it did I would want it fixing pronto. It would be useful if what you discovered was written down somewhere though, just to avoid the 'what the feck are you on about ' look from the mechanic guy you've just explained the reason to. Cheers CS

madmike22
04-21-2009, 05:21 PM
ok guys i need some help. i got a 06 r1 with full yosh pipe so no exup to deal with. oil changed every 3,000 or sooner, and i have a tick from 3,000 to 4,000 rpm then its gone. the tick speeds up with rpm so i belive its the valves but could be wrong. any thoughts?

archer1
04-21-2009, 07:25 PM
Read my post from a year and a half ago? When someone ask you if your bike is a diesel it ain't normal! I'm lucky it didn't let go at 100+. Now I have starter problems on the 06 engine the dealer put in it. Maybe it is time for a BMW. I like working on bikes but this thing always leaves me pissed and bleeding.:nopity:But when it's running right it is so sweet...

drunknchi
05-27-2009, 09:48 AM
92000 miles ticking is getting louder some people say it might be my exhaust gaskets because I have a slip on with no power commander...help!!! It gets louder and louder and it's freaking infuriating!!! YES 92000 miles.

najerascout
05-28-2009, 08:38 PM
I have a 06 50th annv. that i got straight out of the dealer. 21000 miles into it, the valves started ticking. Took it in to my local shop and they recommended i replace the head. i taught i got lucky by paying under $1000. but 3 weeks later it started all over again. i took it to them 3 times and they said they couldnt hear it or it was an exhaust leak. finally i took their word and decided to chock it up to a normal yamaha valvetrain. much to my disappointment noise increased and finally i got fed up so i took it to another shop. the mechanic there told me after he took it apart that my valves are showing excessive wear.a fix would be to shim it but that that would not be a long term fix. he recommended i replace the valves with aftermarket ones. unfortunately i didnt have the funds to get it done. so i am waiting to get some funds and hopefullly correct the problem. i hope this might shed some light. just so you know guys dont ride with the knocking sound. you risk dropping a valve into your piston and causing permanent damage.