Starter Problem..Takes 3 trys

Rockport
01-05-2007, 03:21 AM
Does anyone know of anything that could be causing my 07 R1 to take 3 trys to start... It might be because of the cold nights.. but I think it still shouldnt take 3 trys? And when I bring it to the dealership they say it started for them.. but a few days later it will still take 3 trys?

riley42
01-07-2007, 04:56 AM
Mine does the same thing. Sometimes I'll have to hold down the starter for like 5 seconds for it to start. My 05 R6 started with a tap. It's been cold here too, but I have no idea why it's happening.

darinn
01-07-2007, 06:38 AM
im sure you guys already know this...but the bike is fuel injected....DO NOT GIVE IT ANY GAS...the bike wont/is very hard to start if you give it any gas whatsoever...so just leave the throttle alone when you start it and it should start up after about 5 seconds at the most on a cold day...im here in richardson, tx and i ride everyday, i love these 50degree nights!!! the cold air makes the bike run like a champ

FlashG
01-18-2007, 10:59 PM
My 06 does the same thing. This morning it was below freezing and she wouldn't start. Mechanic says new R1's have this problem.

Rockport
01-19-2007, 03:52 AM
Mines been starting up lately w/ no problem.........even on the 28 Degrees day..

darinn
01-19-2007, 11:00 AM
hey rockport, been riding in that 28 degree weather??? i rode mine just the other day haha....damn it was cold

Rockport
01-27-2007, 07:29 PM
i was.... I started holding the start button longer.... That fixed it.. I was letting go of the start to quickly... my other bikes started instantly...

GSXRsRforClowns
02-06-2007, 08:00 PM
yeah dont worry about it....my 07 does the same thing, i think it might be a yamaha thing cause my honda 954 started on a dime even in the 10 degree weather....as long as she starts and i get to ride thats all i care about lol

txeric77
02-09-2007, 06:23 PM
Its the price we pay to ride the best

jray02r1
02-09-2007, 06:42 PM
you do make sure to listen for the fuel pump to stop making noise before you start it right?

McKracken
03-23-2007, 11:10 PM
mine does the same thing, but it disappeared...only problem i have now is getting used to the clutch release...i've stalled many times leaving at a stop...the engagement is short...other than throttling up more seems the only way i can get her going without stalling....

MaJoR ChAoS
03-24-2007, 10:13 AM
mine is the same. takes between 3-5 seconds of holding the starter button in. I was concerned because all my other bikes have started instantly. But since a lot of you guys are having the same issue i guess it's normal for 07's

C Bass
03-24-2007, 10:47 AM
Good Post. I thought it was just me that was having this problem. I had an 02 R6 and it always started intsantly. My R1 takes a couple of between 3-5 seconds to catch......

Russian Rocket
03-24-2007, 12:42 PM
i think it might be due to the cam profile, since this years bike is making a lot of power there is a good possibility that the cams have a very high lift, which would cause the bike to not want to start right away.

McKracken
03-26-2007, 12:42 AM
what i really want to know is where do u fellas get these boob pics of all these girls???? It's killing me...LOL

speedsnice
03-26-2007, 07:52 AM
My R1 does the same thing, but it's been cold lately.

jorgelara
03-28-2007, 04:47 PM
Same here...3-5 seconds to start in Houston. Mostly humid and hot

tpirocz
03-28-2007, 06:34 PM
same for me as well. you can hear it trying to fire up, but you still have to hold the starter for another second otherwise it stalls. doesnt matter if its cold or hot.

adamsys
03-28-2007, 06:52 PM
im sure you guys already know this...but the bike is fuel injected....DO NOT GIVE IT ANY GAS...the bike wont/is very hard to start if you give it any gas whatsoever...so just leave the throttle alone when you start it and it should start up after about 5 seconds at the most on a cold day Mine has been a bit suspect, too. I haven't been giving it any throttle but I've been just dabbing at the starter while standing beside the bike. I suppose I need to stay in it a while longer. While my old carbureted bike only required a dab. However, I tuned the idle mixture to perfection. I guess I just have to live with the mixture setting on the R1...bummer.

Soulrider R1
04-21-2007, 08:26 AM
Mine does the same thing. I was relieved others had the same issue. Granted it has zero miles on it. I'd imagine when the engine loosens up it will go away. We shall see...

Curby
04-21-2007, 09:30 AM
When you guy first start it, do you let it do its "system check" when u turn the key? Put key in, turn over and wait 5 seconds before hitting start button, see if that does anything to fix it. Curby

adamsys
04-22-2007, 12:16 AM
When you guy first start it, do you let it do its "system check" when u turn the key? Put key in, turn over and wait 5 seconds before hitting start button, see if that does anything to fix it. Yeah, man. I do that. Does yours start quicker?

bugmn20
04-26-2007, 02:36 AM
I have this problem also. My 07 often takes 3-4 tries to start. I turn the key, let it perform its system check, wait for the fuel pump to quit making noise and then push the start button. It will seem to fire and then die about three times before starting. After it starts it idles kinda rough and my tach bounces around a little bit. (this does not go away as the bike warms up) After it has trouble starting like this I rev it a little when it finally fires (prob to about 4,000) and the bike seems to kind of stutter and not want to respond to the throttle that is being applied. This is my first R1, but my previous R6 never had any problems such as this. Furthermore, the bike got really hot yesterday (which has been discussed on another thread) Just for anyone who replies, My bike is currently stock. I do have all of the parts listed below, but am waiting for the 600 mile break in point to install them. Thanks for any replies/suggestions on what may be causing this.

MaJoR ChAoS
04-26-2007, 08:18 AM
If I wait 4-5 seconds it starts easier.

Curby
04-26-2007, 09:53 AM
Yeah, man. I do that. Does yours start quicker? Well i have an 05, seams like alot of the problems are with 07s, but neways mine starts up fine everytime, i just wait 5 secs after everything is set, pull in clutch, then fire it up. Curby

ambiguousR1
04-26-2007, 09:56 AM
I have the same problem. Takes me 3-4 tries before it fires up.

Mark_Z28
04-26-2007, 10:53 PM
Mine does that to, especially if its been sitting for a few days. If its been run not long before all I have to do is just touch the start button and it runs perfect. If its hot and hadnt been off long it seems to take a while to run also. Once it does run either way it runs smooth, no missing or running rough. All my carbed vehicles(Holley or Edelbrock four barrels) would start within 2 revolutions of the engine, sometimes before it cranks over once. Thought fuel injection was supposed to be so much better, lol.

Wheat
04-26-2007, 11:02 PM
I'll jump in, Ok give it a few seconds after you turn the key on. To the one that said "Dont touch the throttle" is full of Bull, its ok to give a EFI bike gas to start it..:fact

PatR1ck07
04-28-2007, 11:43 PM
Mine does the same thing. I was relieved others had the same issue. Granted it has zero miles on it. I'd imagine when the engine loosens up it will go away. We shall see... :stpd:

flash gordon
04-29-2007, 12:30 AM
I'll jump in, Ok give it a few seconds after you turn the key on. To the one that said "Dont touch the throttle" is full of Bull, its ok to give a EFI bike gas to start it..:fact In fact, when I give my gas it starts right up. If I don't I have to hold the throttle for a long period of time.

crazygumby
05-03-2007, 09:20 PM
After it has trouble starting like this I rev it a little when it finally fires (prob to about 4,000) and the bike seems to kind of stutter and not want to respond to the throttle that is being applied. my bike stutters when i gun it until i reach 6000 rpm. why is that it feels like my bike is chocking anybody else?

mikesRC51
05-04-2007, 07:06 AM
Does anyone know of anything that could be causing my 07 R1 to take 3 trys to start... It might be because of the cold nights.. but I think it still shouldnt take 3 trys? And when I bring it to the dealership they say it started for them.. but a few days later it will still take 3 trys? I was told years ago not to use the kill switch. I always turn the bike off with the key and I've never had a problem.

adamsys
05-04-2007, 07:44 AM
I was told years ago not to use the kill switch. I always turn the bike off with the key and I've never had a problem. In terms of the engine, there is no difference between using the key or the kill switch. The reason using the kill switch is not recommended is people forget they used it and then can't figure out why the bike won't start. I was a wrench for 11 years and its a bit of a classic. Many times people have packed up their brand new bike in a truck, hauled it into the dealer all in a panic, just to have the mechanic flip the switch after a couple of stabs at the starter button and boom, she's running. Of course, at that point the customer then gets one of those "you ass" glares from the wrench!

adamsys
05-04-2007, 07:47 AM
In fact, when I give my gas it starts right up. If I don't I have to hold the throttle for a long period of time. Yeah, I now crack the throttle a bit when I start the R1 just like I used to with carburetted bikes. It seems to help.

dboi R1
05-08-2007, 01:10 PM
mine Is Doin' The Same Thing Too!! Glad I Found This Thread... Maybe With Time And More Miles It Will Go Away...

crazygumby
05-08-2007, 02:14 PM
i saw somewhere on this forum that after removing the cats it will start like a regular bike

SUPERBUD
05-09-2007, 01:43 PM
Ive Got 1200 Miles On Mine And It Still Does It When It Has Cooled Off.

dlashraf
05-13-2007, 09:17 PM
anyone have any info on how to fix this small issue. i'm sure everyone is more worried about the throttle lag though.. :)

the_chosen_ONE
06-02-2007, 11:55 PM
I do the same start it like a carburated bite, works for me.. takes like 3 sec.

getmad
07-09-2007, 06:40 AM
Ive Got 1200 Miles On Mine And It Still Does It When It Has Cooled Off. i got 600km on mine and still start like s**t to me!

bradmedford
07-19-2007, 08:17 PM
I have 1500m and race baffels on my 07 and I have a verry hard time giting it stated event after giving it time. it dose not seem to mater if I give it some throtle or not. This is a big problem on mine. sometimes it takes so long that peaple start to look me and ask if I need help. dose anyone know it the new ECU that the dealers are puting in helps any?

Hazard04r6
07-19-2007, 08:59 PM
I have 2950 miles on my bike and it has done it since i got got the bike. When i turn the key you hear the fuel pump come on and then i hear a couple of putters before it stops making any noise. One mech told me that since it was new it needed to be broken in but i just recently took it to get serviced at a different dealer and when they did a diagnostic test the bike put out at least 6 different fault codes. One being throttle position sensor and another one had to deal with the fuel. We then started every other 07 r1 in the store and it fired right up with no problems at all. My bike is currently being looked at because it is not normall and it is a problem. Currently have: Akrapovic Evo2 Full titanium exhaust BMC Race air filter Power commander 520 chain, 1 down front and up 2 rear dynojet quick shifter Sato rear sets w/ reverse shift Braking front and rear wave rotors SS front and rear lines Brembo 19 X 18 front master cylinder clear alternative smoked integrated turn signals Greggs customs turn signals Greggs charcoal mirror block off plates CRG bar end mirror Graves bar ends 12mm thick custom white rim stripes with Yamaha R1 logo on stripes Complete scorpion alarm GYTR Gel seat Puig dark smoke double bubble

sportbiker1968
07-20-2007, 08:01 AM
Have any of you guys verified whether or not you have a acceleration lag in 2nd gear at 5500 RPM?......If you do, you all have a BAD ECU !!!!!.....I got mine replaced and it fixed about 5 different problems I was having with my bike INCLUDING the hard starting. 1. Lag 2. pinging and vibration when accelerating under 4000 RPM 3. throttle too sensitive in decelleration causing clunky and abrupt shifting 4. Low power compared to my old 04 R1. 5. Won't start right. See my other threads on "ECU replaced?" and check into it. It is worth getting fixed believe me. It is a warranty issue so the dealer will not charge you!....It is FREE!.....Good luck.

krisnet55
08-04-2007, 08:53 AM
What I do and helps is twist the throttle in the opposite direction and it starts. But yes i was also told it could be the throttle position sensor

slapwig
08-05-2007, 02:21 PM
i've had problems with mine taking too long to start or even start then die right away. also i found out about the 5500rpm while my bike is n the shop for something else and haven't seen if mine does it yet. is there a recall on this, if so or even if not, how do i get the new ecu? does the dealer have it?