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INSIDE NEWS:

(this was posted to YAMAHA dealers today)

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5/23/2007

Intermittent Slow Acceleration in Low Gears – 2007 YZF-R1

Some 2007-model YZF-R1 motorcycles may intermittently experience less than ideal acceleration from approximately 5000 rpm in lower gears. Yamaha is currently investigating this issue and we expect to have information about a resolution by early June.

If a customer expresses concerns about such an experience, do normal diagnostic tests to eliminate any problem such as fuel delivery or ignition.
If no abnormal condition is found, please contact your RTA after June 6th for further assistance.
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What it breaks down to is beginning June 6, 2007 owners of the 2007 Yamaha R1 that are having random lower gear issues will be given the opportunity to have the issue fixed by there local Yamaha dealer.

That will make some folks happy!

Notice they never actually acknowledge the issue directly though. The words "some" and a rage of RPM and gears will allow them to have some variability is legal issues.

:lol Typical corporate bullshit.

Bout time they at least come up with something.

Thank you, sir, for posting that up. Thats great news!!!!!!! :thumbup

Just let us know, when there is a final resolution, so we can take our bikes in.


:riding

Peace,
Mr. C

What about us who have modified the exhaust, like the graves cat eliminator systems...?

Sweet - June 6th our bikes will be perfect!

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INSIDE NEWS:

(this was posted to YAMAHA dealers today)

______________________________________________

5/23/2007

Intermittent Slow Acceleration in Low Gears – 2007 YZF-R1

Some 2007-model YZF-R1 motorcycles may intermittently experience less than ideal acceleration from approximately 5000 rpm in lower gears. Yamaha is currently investigating this issue and we expect to have information about a resolution by early June.

If a customer expresses concerns about such an experience, do normal diagnostic tests to eliminate any problem such as fuel delivery or ignition.
If no abnormal condition is found, please contact your RTA after June 6th for further assistance.
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What it breaks down to is beginning June 6, 2007 owners of the 2007 Yamaha R1 that are having random lower gear issues will be given the opportunity to have the issue fixed by there local Yamaha dealer.

Thanx Spidey !!! Your the Man!!!!!!!! Great news!!!!!!!!!!:rock

Notice they never actually acknowledge the issue directly though. The words "some" and a rage of RPM and gears will allow them to have some variability is legal issues.

:lol Typical corporate bullshit.

Bout time they at least come up with something.

Defenitly some BS!!!:bs
How about, " ALL US Models experience this lag at exactly 55k RPM
in 2nd Gear Only!!!" that would be a better description of the issue!! $.02

What about us who have modified the exhaust, like the graves cat eliminator systems...?


Still Stock Baby!!!:thumbup .
But it shouldnt Matter!!:confused:

If you gut or remove the cat doesn't it void your factory warranty! I still have all the stock stuff, just wondering?

I was in the local dealership yesterday and asked if they new of a fix coming for that issue. They had no clue of what I was talking about. The gave me the :dundun: look as if I was trying to bull$hit them. Man, I really appreciate this R1-Forum. I've been learning a lot and I have become addicted! Keep up the good work!:thumbup

Thanks Spidey!!! I guess when the yamaha rep told my dealer it would only be a few more weeks, he may have been telling the truth. I'm really interested to see how they fix this.

If you gut or remove the cat doesn't it void your factory warranty! I still have all the stock stuff, just wondering?


According to the LAW, it will only void your warranty if the product you installed is responsible for the damage. However in reality, people will have different experiences with different dealers.

Thanks for the typical "Sabian" post... Sabian.. :fact Please don't turn this into a rant (anyone) as the problem is being FIXED so this is a good thing for everything! Despite some of the prior posts from people suggesting otherwise we've been supporters of this fix from the start :fact

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This is a direct quote from a Yamaha tech. bulletin that was JUST released. Most dealers unless they are logged into the Yamaha system right now will not have much insight on this. It's not meant to elaborate into the issue only that there is a fix.

Thank you Yamaha :fact :)

1. dumb question: what is RTA ?
2. thanks for the info and updates SpidermanSS :)

they're coming correct-good deal

Thanks for the info and updates SpidermanSS

Reginal tech assistance?? I appreciate the news, spidy, you the man. Im waiting for a call now, from my dealer........

Yeah, can't wait til June for the fix. Those assholes at my local yammie are a bunch of weasels, dumb or dishonest I can't tell. I naggrd about the problem and they gave me the look as if I'm a rookie and don't know anything about the bikes. Hell, I've been raping bikes way before they had the idea of open the dealership and washed their hands after the bike is sold.

:thumbup Shane

Great news..... Can't wait till June 6......


Stan

Props to Shane for getting this info to us! :thumbup

Props to Shane for getting this info to us! :thumbup

+1:bow
all those people who bought the 06 because of the 07 lag will be pissed.
Hehe!!!:sing:

I'm interested to know what the extent of "The Fix" will be. I only have one question now....What will we complain about? The bike will be absolutely perfect.

I'm interested to know what the extent of "The Fix" will be. I only have one question now....What will we complain about? The bike will be absolutely perfect.

+1
and how are they planning on fixing it????:confused:

Thanks to all the guys who kept this issue in the spotlight. You guys made this happen!

+1:bow
all those people who bought the 06 because of the 07 lag will be pissed.
Hehe!!!:sing:


I can't believe it, but I completely agree with Dollaz on this one.:confused:

I can't believe it, but I completely agree with Dollaz on this one.:confused:

OMFKNG !!!!! LOL.............:thumbup

it would be nice to know, seeming the other thread must have been Filled
with possible solutions in about 100+ pages and nobody had a fix.
so i want to see what the final fix actually is, to see who was the closet to
a fix themselves and who was on the right track!!$.02

Thanks Spidey!!! Cant Wait To See What The Fix Is!!!

I would like to thank Yamahog, adamsys, flashgorden and a few others for all there work on this issue. WE tried to push this as long as we could to get everyone on board with this issue since December. It looks like after all the work and bitching we put up with from most people here that said to ride around it.... we finally have got enough attention to this subject from Yamaha.

Let's just hope it does get resolved.

Thanks guys.

I would also like to add that this being on the front page now is kind of funny Shane.... not to call you out at all bro cause you know I would not do that... but it would have been nice to put the pressure on yamaha (via the front page) back when this issue was first noticed as well.

Either way, we are on our way to a fix now and that's all that matters.

I have to tell you that I think a lot of people gave up on it. I figured that there would be a fix eventually. Although, when Wheat locked the original thread, I felt we lost a lot of exposure.

when Wheat locked the original thread, I felt we lost a lot of exposure.I can't take the credit for Closing that Train wreck, wish i could though......Anyway, it's being handled. :fact So lets not dwell in the past. :fact

:thumbup Glad to see Yamaha step up to make things right for us 07 owners. I would like to say thanks to everyone that pushed to get the word out.

I would also like to add that this being on the front page now is kind of funny Shane.... not to call you out at all bro cause you know I would not do that... but it would have been nice to put the pressure on yamaha (via the front page) back when this issue was first noticed as well.

Either way, we are on our way to a fix now and that's all that matters.


Yamaha HAS been apprised of our thread from the GET GO Rhett (I SENT IT TO THEM), straight up the line and I've been working with them on it to get a fix from the get go. I'm not going to actively become the "GO TO" guy for everyone to bitch to about the issue and allow you to over take the entire site with 1000's of threads on it though. We've logged millions of hits to the issue and tens of thousands of hits to your even your web page on the issue as well. So what you think and what happened is two different things. I would've told you via PM if you asked instead of calling me out openly like you did. Anyways it's DONE and fixed, be at the dealership on the 6th to getR done.. :)

This is a good thread so keep anything negative to PM. I should have some fixed ecu reviews for us all to check out soon.

Thanks :)

this is good news
thanks

Thanks for the typical "Sabian" post... Sabian.. :fact Please don't turn this into a rant (anyone) as the problem is being FIXED so this is a good thing for everything! Despite some of the prior posts from people suggesting otherwise we've been supporters of this fix from the start :fact

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This is a direct quote from a Yamaha tech. bulletin that was JUST released. Most dealers unless they are logged into the Yamaha system right now will not have much insight on this. It's not meant to elaborate into the issue only that there is a fix.

Thank you Yamaha :fact :)

Sorry Shane. :(

Shane I sent you an e-mail.... :)


So it looks from what you have said that they are going to replace the ECU? is this correct?

Hell yes, thank you Yamaha now my bike will be perferct!

I too am wondering what the fix will be. New ECU's? Or just a download? Or...? I hope it's something that won't have to be ordered on the 6th and then be back ordered like a mofo cuz every 07 owner on this board will be at the dealer on June 6th. That bulletin says after the 6th contact your RTA so I guess the 7th is actually the magic date.


But anyways :rock:rock:rock:rock:rock badass news.:thumbup

:bow Shane :bow this is awesome news!!!! I know the 07 will beat all of my expectations after the fix :yesnod I now have restored faith in the brand. (time to change my signature back :lol)

The change will have to be added to new stock bikes now too :thumbup Can't wait........

Ok boys, don't get your panties in a wad about the June 6 date.

This message was for dealers to check with their RTA's after June 6 if a customer has a problem with acceleration in low gears if no other condition can be found. It probably means that a fix isn't quite done yet and they are gathering data (i.e. how many bikes they'll have to fix) to see what course of action (re-flash [inexpensive] or ECU change out [very expensive]) they'll have to take to satisfy all the customers and still be as economical as possible for them.

You can take your bike to the dealership after the 6th but I doubt they'll have the fix ready then.

'Course that's just my opinion.

:bow Shane :bow this is awesome news!!!! I know the 07 will beat all of my expectations after the fix :yesnod I now have restored faith in the brand. (time to change my signature back :lol)

Thanks for everything you did Yamahog, you were the one who kept giving me support and hope to keep after this issue. Thank you!

I thank everyone involved in helping with this issue:riding Remove the lag and you have perfection:boobies :boobies :boobies

I thank everyone involved in helping with this issue:riding Remove the lag and you have perfection:boobies :boobies :boobies
and the 60% throttle limitation under 6800 rpm:thumbup

Intermittent my ass.

R1Lover, you're very welcome .... now let this restore your faith in Yamaha and Shane for getting us the info first, as well as the steps he took behind the scenes to work on this for us.

For you other guys, they can word it any way they want, as long as the problem is fixed!!!! I was really getting pissed thinking of another color ending up in the garage. I like my "sea of blue" :yesnod

dang i might have to go trade my 06 for an 07 now.

R1Lover, you're very welcome .... now let this restore your faith in Yamaha and Shane for getting us the info first, as well as the steps he took behind the scenes to work on this for us.

For you other guys, they can word it any way they want, as long as the problem is fixed!!!! I was really getting pissed thinking of another color ending up in the garage. I like my "sea of blue" :yesnod

:thumbup :beer :beer

Thanks, SpidermanSS. I wont be able to sleep tight till Jun 6.

I'm interested to know what the extent of "The Fix" will be. I only have one question now....What will we complain about? The bike will be absolutely perfect.

Rear sets cracking on people who never dropped the bikes or do wheelies!! They are fixed under waranty however much more dangerous than this lag was IMO but that will be another thread...

I am just happy they stepped up to the plate so I can stay with yamaha in the future. It is good to see that my headaches with Customer service and everything else paid off when I filed my complaints. Good to see my dealership was telling me the truth all along too.

Thankyou Yamaha!!

What is ironic to me is that every mag test I read the new R1 sets the fastest lap times by far! Bunch of bitches around here I guess!;)

What is ironic to me is that every mag test I read the new R1 sets the fastest lap times by far! Bunch of bitches around here I guess!;)

I'm having a hard time finding your point?

uh correct me if I'm wrong, but when your on the track, the chances of you being at 5500rpm's is slim right? but its about time yamaha went public with acknowledging (sp) the problem.. might have to consider getting the R1 again..

uh correct me if I'm wrong, but when your on the track, the chances of you being at 5500rpm's is slim right? but its about time yamaha went public with acknowledging (sp) the problem.. might have to consider getting the R1 again..

Not everybody bought this bike for track day riding only. I cant ride it like I do on the track everyday I am going to work in traffic. Lets just be happy Yamaha got their S*** together and are getting things worked out for one of the greatest if not the greatest bikes of all time.

Well first off, I appreciate Shane getting all this info together for everyone. I think the fact that you are able to log all hits to specific threads and forward that info to Yamaha, is very brilliant. I am very happy for all 07 Yamaha R1owners.
My friend does financing for a dealer and she told me to come see her for a really good deal on a 07... I thought she was nuts. No thanks...
I LOVE YAMAHA, but---Is it just me, or does it seem as if Yamaha is lacking... I knew of the gearbox problems in the 01 R6, my coils burnt out in my 03 R6(which was a recall or tech bulletin), my 04 just had the TPS swapped(thank God), and the 07 has the lag... Whats the deal with them? Do they test thier bikes before releasing to the public? Do all other bike brands have similar recalls? Honda or Suzuki? I never hear about them, but then again, Im not looking much either.

Well first off, I appreciate Shane getting all this info together for everyone. I think the fact that you are able to log all hits to specific threads and forward that info to Yamaha, is very brilliant. I am very happy for all 07 Yamaha R1owners.
My friend does financing for a dealer and she told me to come see her for a really good deal on a 07... I thought she was nuts. No thanks...
I LOVE YAMAHA, but---Is it just me, or does it seem as if Yamaha is lacking... I knew of the gearbox problems in the 01 R6, my coils burnt out in my 03 R6(which was a recall or tech bulletin), my 04 just had the TPS swapped(thank God), and the 07 has the lag... Whats the deal with them? Do they test thier bikes before releasing to the public? Do all other bike brands have similar recalls? Honda or Suzuki? I never hear about them, but then again, Im not looking much either.Yes they do....:fact

What is ironic to me is that every mag test I read the new R1 sets the fastest lap times by far! Bunch of bitches around here I guess!;)

my bad.. I guess I should have quoted the post mine was directed:thumbup

Great news. My faith in Yamaha is restored!

:tocoo:

This is supposed to be an informative thread about what is being done not another bitch and whine fest. :fact :no

thank you spiderSS

great to hear, finally something besides negative comments on the lag, got June 6th on my calendar

What is ironic to me is that every mag test I read the new R1 sets the fastest lap times by far! Bunch of bitches around here I guess!;)

Actually the mag test i read the Ducati 1098 had the best lap times with the R1 a close 2nd. R1 had more horsepower though.

Actually the mag test i read the Ducati 1098 had the best lap times with the R1 a close 2nd. R1 had more horsepower though.
This was what I read too. But now, after the fix, who knows, maybe Yami will bank all the rest of the liter bikes.............:boom

Wasn't it the 1098s that was tested in that comparison? I can't recall, but for the extra money the S model demands.. I'd be happy to pay half and get the R1.

What i really am still stomped about is.
Why Blame it on emmissions testing???
what does testing at that RPM have anything to do with it lagging???:dundun: Wouldnt they then have noticed the lag themselves ?????

Can someone more Tech. Savy Explain Please!!!:confused:

What i really am still stomped about is.
Why Blame it on emmissions testing???
what does testing at that RPM have anything to do with it lagging???:dundun: Wouldnt they then have noticed the lag themselves ?????

Can someone more Tech. Savy Explain Please!!!:confused:Well, from what the Yami Tech. explained to me, was that the emissions were for noise,or loudness only! What ever...........
What kills me, is, whats the first thing you modify on your bike?? Changing the pipes!! That makes no sense at all.....

Hey,
I've got the same kind of shit going on with my new R1. I'm still running it in but i've found it really hard to feed the gas in, in low gears without the throttle kind of snatching.... Sometimes it's ok but others I can feel the tension in the cable and nothings happening, then I turn it a fraction more and
it's like it's jumped from 0 to 10% throttle. It's getting me pissed now! My 04 R1 was super smooth on the gas.....

As for the emmissions and noise testing...
The bike has to pass a Db test at a set RPM stipulated by the goverment to get type approval. In Europe it's ilegal to run race end cans on the road... It's a pisser but you can buy road legal cans and just remove the baffle. The good thing about these is they're etched with the correct type approval for road use. Once the baffles un bolted they're identicall to a plain race can.

The same type approval goes for the emmissions laws. I guess they're tested at a set RPM too. At this point the ECU will run the mix lean, I think...

Emmission laws suck for bikes. If the designers could forget about them, modern sports bikes would look sexier, be a lot lighter and go much better! Just look at that tank of an 07 GSXR 1000! Bike evolution has reached it's peak I recon. K6 GSXR 1000's are like rocking horse poo (non existant!) over hear cos everyone knows they're better than the K7 in stock trim at least.
No offence intended K7 owners! Most mags still rate it over my 07 R1!

Gentlemen can we please try to keep this thread from becoming a trainwreck, like the original lag thread. :bow

Noise testing?...not very likely. Yamaha could run open pipes and still be quieter than a harley......

jeez, thats pretty ridiculous.

Noise testing?...not very likely. Yamaha could run open pipes and still be quieter than a harley......

Well that can be misleading because of the deeper tone of the Harley. It may sound loud because its so much base and base travels a lot further before attenuating, but as far as a dB measurement you may be surprised how "quiet" they are with stock exhausts when measured up close.

Its because the higher the frequency of the wave ( whether it be in the sound or light spectrum ), the faster it attenuates over distance.

Gentlemen can we please try to keep this thread from becoming a trainwreck, like the original lag thread. :bow

I agree...we dont need this one being closed.

Im on my way to the dealership to pick up my rear set now. I will ask them what I should expect on June 6th and see what info I can find out. I will post when I get back home.

:rock

I agree...we dont need this one being closed.

Im on my way to the dealership to pick up my rear set now. I will ask them what I should expect on June 6th and see what info I can find out. I will post when I get back home.

:rock

I am probably the reason for the last one being closed... ;) I will mind my p's & F's this time. :lol

Well good news. My rearset is fixed and I talked with the service guy who told me about the lag fix the day before it was posted here when I posted it....

He told me: "yep, its true. Bring your bike in on the 6th. From what I know it will be an ECU swap instead of having us fiddle with the computer."

So far I have no reason to doubt his words because he had taken care of every issue I have brought to his attention. They are the #1 yamaha dealer in western Pa and I hope I am first in line to get it fixed because I brought it to their attention.

It probably took them this long because they had to renegotiate $$$ with the people who produce the ECU because they need a new supply of them. It would cost them more money to have a tech just sit there and fiddle with an ECU to fix what is wrong so it is easier and dont cost $80.00 per hour to just swap it out.

Hey,
I've got the same kind of shit going on with my new R1. I'm still running it in but i've found it really hard to feed the gas in, in low gears without the throttle kind of snatching.... Sometimes it's ok but others I can feel the tension in the cable and nothings happening, then I turn it a fraction more and
it's like it's jumped from 0 to 10% throttle. It's getting me pissed now! My 04 R1 was super smooth on the gas.....

As for the emmissions and noise testing...
The bike has to pass a Db test at a set RPM stipulated by the goverment to get type approval. In Europe it's ilegal to run race end cans on the road... It's a pisser but you can buy road legal cans and just remove the baffle. The good thing about these is they're etched with the correct type approval for road use. Once the baffles un bolted they're identicall to a plain race can.

The same type approval goes for the emmissions laws. I guess they're tested at a set RPM too. At this point the ECU will run the mix lean, I think...

Emmission laws suck for bikes. If the designers could forget about them, modern sports bikes would look sexier, be a lot lighter and go much better! Just look at that tank of an 07 GSXR 1000! Bike evolution has reached it's peak I recon. K6 GSXR 1000's are like rocking horse poo (non existant!) over hear cos everyone knows they're better than the K7 in stock trim at least.
No offence intended K7 owners! Most mags still rate it over my 07 R1!

I've owned the '98, '03 and now '07 and must admit drivabilty leaves little to desire at low RPM and when cracking the throttle. Very unpredictable at best + the lag sucks but when you wind her up i must admit the engine/chassis are sweet.

thanks everyone who helped work on this to get a fix. i am super happy with my 07 until i'm carving a canyon and hit the lag.... i'm going to my dealer tomorrow to talk about the new ecu. hip hip horray!!!!

Well good news. My rearset is fixed and I talked with the service guy who told me about the lag fix the day before it was posted here when I posted it....

He told me: "yep, its true. Bring your bike in on the 6th. From what I know it will be an ECU swap instead of having us fiddle with the computer."

So far I have no reason to doubt his words because he had taken care of every issue I have brought to his attention. They are the #1 yamaha dealer in western Pa and I hope I am first in line to get it fixed because I brought it to their attention.

It probably took them this long because they had to renegotiate $$$ with the people who produce the ECU because they need a new supply of them. It would cost them more money to have a tech just sit there and fiddle with an ECU to fix what is wrong so it is easier and dont cost $80.00 per hour to just swap it out.

I hope your right, but my dealer didn't know squat when I called them. They also suggested I wait a few days so they could experiment on the showroom bikes before they touch mine. New ecu's would kind of suck tho cuz I can only imagine the back order to ensue.

yea, but we are the only people that know about the fix, meaning the forum. Some of the dealers don't even know about the fix. I plan to be there on the 7th to get mine.

so they could experiment on the showroom bikes before they touch mine.



So they are going to take new bikes off the floor to ride them to see if they have the problem that every other US bike has? I call :bs, not from your end, but theirs.

yea, but we are the only people that know about the fix, meaning the forum. Some of the dealers don't even know about the fix. I plan to be there on the 7th to get mine.


I just got back from my dealer and they had no clue. They do now so we'll see how it goes.

So they are going to take new bikes off the floor to ride them to see if they have the problem that every other US bike has? I call :bs, not from your end, but theirs. No they meant they are going to fix the bikes on the showroom floor first.

No they meant they are going to fix the bikes on the showroom floor first.


Gotcha.

Maybe you could suggest that they take care of the people who have bought the bike first... chalk it up to that thing called "Customer Service."

:sing:

No they meant they are going to fix the bikes on the showroom floor first.

My dealer said with something like this Yamaha will send the number of ECU's that each dealer has sold and delivered first.... My guy then said they will fix only those bikes that were bought at that dealer first... then if any ECU's are left they would do other bikes. Luckily mine was the first delivered so it looks like I will have the first ECU to arrive. Although I must state that the dealer had no clue until I told him that a fix was coming. He said with a situation like this Yamaha will send out the ECU's without even telling the dealer about it, then give them the instructions to resolve it.

If your dealer is going to test a bike on the floor with it first then I guess that's his decision... but most will do bikes on the road I'm sure.

My dealer said with something like this Yamaha will send the number of ECU's that each dealer has sold and delivered first.... My guy then said they will fix only those bikes that were bought at that dealer first... then if any ECU's are left they would do other bikes. Luckily mine was the first delivered so it looks like I will have the first ECU to arrive. Although I must state that the dealer had no clue until I told him that a fix was coming. He said with a situation like this Yamaha will send out the ECU's without even telling the dealer about it, then give them the instructions to resolve it.

If your dealer is going to test a bike on the floor with it first then I guess that's his decision... but most will do bikes on the road I'm sure.

Well if that's the way Yamaha has suggested the fix be done, then I will insist that my bike be fixed asap. And since the first R1 they sold is now in Alabama I guess I'm first in line for a new ECU since I bought mine two days later. My dealer had no idea about the fix and only suggested waiting because they didn't know what they were going to be doing and how hard it would be. They wanted to make sure they had it down before touching my bike. I really don't think they were trying to take advantage of me in anyway. They only try that with aftermarket parts and the scheduled services.

I bought the first bike at my dealer also. I took delivery on december the 9th. And I have filed a complaint first with the same dealer after they told me it was a quark of all the electronics. But I told them it was a defect in the program. I guess I was correct. I had to ask them to make the complaint just in case there was a fix I would be on the list.

Well if that's the way Yamaha has suggested the fix be done, then I will insist that my bike be fixed asap. And since the first R1 they sold is now in Alabama I guess I'm first in line for a new ECU since I bought mine two days later. My dealer had no idea about the fix and only suggested waiting because they didn't know what they were going to be doing and how hard it would be. They wanted to make sure they had it down before touching my bike. I really don't think they were trying to take advantage of me in anyway. They only try that with aftermarket parts and the scheduled services.

Ya I'm not sure if that is exactly what "Yamaha" is thinking but as far as my dealer goes.... they would rather do mine first as I know more about these bikes then they do and they have no problem admitting that. Actually while I was there today I was helping a guy who was wanting to buy the 07 R1.... lol He looked at the guy and said this is who you want to talk to right here... :lol Not trying to say I know it all as I don't but my dealer has bigger fish to fry then the market for R1's in this area so it's a small part of his business. So anyway... this is just what he told me from his experience and not coming directly from yamaha on this issue,but rather in the past.

Either way, I'm glad it's getting fixed :beer :beer

That's good news!

i called my dealer about two weeks ago and complained of a pinging sound upon a somewhat hard take off wonder if that has something to do with this?

i called my dealer about two weeks ago and complained of a pinging sound upon a somewhat hard take off wonder if that has something to do with this?

That's been normal on the 04-07 bikes.... Give it a little more throttle on take off... if you bog it it will do that. Maybe try slipping the clutch a little more as that helps too.... The fix is to go -1 in the front though... much better.

I hit a bit of lag for the first time yesterday on the way back from the mountains. I was coming off an on-ramp, gave it some gas and twisted it about 1/4 throttle with nothing as far as response goes, then power started coming on after about 1/2 second of lag. When I looked down sure enough I was in 2nd right around 50mph.

So now I know what its like - glad its getting fixed in a week or two.

Yeah. I'm curious about mods too and warranty. I presume that would mean you would have to potentially pay for the swap. It would be a pain to return to stock just for an ecu swap. I would rather pop the ecu out and take that to the dealer for the swap!

I gave this some more thought....

It shouldn't matter if you have mods on your 07 R1... Here is why.

It is one thing when you go to the dealer and say "there is a problem". They can point to your mods to say you are causing the bike to run out of spec and essentially void your warranty. However, now that yamaha has essentially acknowledged a defect, you should be allowed to receive the "fix" as prescribed by yamaha.

make sense. :dundun:

Mods are not going to matter, I have dealt with aftermarket parts on cars and bikes for years. Unless your aftermarket part is the direct cause of the defect which in this case it is not, you have nothing to worry about.

That's been normal on the 04-07 bikes.... Give it a little more throttle on take off... if you bog it it will do that. Maybe try slipping the clutch a little more as that helps too.... The fix is to go -1 in the front though... much better.

Being done right now(-1 counter)
had the repair shop hook me up with this during the Fix!!.
and my damn headlight is still on B/O so im still frikin bikeless. this sux!!!:mad:

My dealer said with something like this Yamaha will send the number of ECU's that each dealer has sold and delivered first.... My guy then said they will fix only those bikes that were bought at that dealer first... then if any ECU's are left they would do other bikes. Luckily mine was the first delivered so it looks like I will have the first ECU to arrive. Although I must state that the dealer had no clue until I told him that a fix was coming. He said with a situation like this Yamaha will send out the ECU's without even telling the dealer about it, then give them the instructions to resolve it.

If your dealer is going to test a bike on the floor with it first then I guess that's his decision... but most will do bikes on the road I'm sure.

You guys all complain that your dealer knows nothing then you believe them when they say stuff like this... wait until something is actually announced.... dont believe anything you dont hear directly from the horses mouth

You guys all complain that your dealer knows nothing then you believe them when they say stuff like this... wait until something is actually announced.... dont believe anything you dont hear directly from the horses mouth

The problem is the Horse can't or won't talk... which is B.S.

:) all we can do is hope...

I just talked to my dealer. They had no knowledge of the notice BUT they did acknowledge the lag exists (finally) and were receptive to my notification of the June 6 fix date. :thumbup I am a little unsure on how they are going to handle this though. I sure the "problem" is in the ECU and i'm not sure if the dealerships have the equipment to re-flash the ECU so I am guessing they would have to replace the ECU. I don't plan on having my bike "hang out" at the shop while they send the ECU in for "repairs". Anyone have any insight?

Mine is at a tuner right now getting a Graves Ti cat eliminator and a fast card. They're going to custom map it, which I assume will bypass the stock ECU. For peace of mind/resale value/whatever.. I still feel like I should get the ECU swap done. Any of you techy types know how this swap would affect things after the mods and mapping have been done?

Mine is at a tuner right now getting a Graves Ti cat eliminator and a fast card. They're going to custom map it, which I assume will bypass the stock ECU. For peace of mind/resale value/whatever.. I still feel like I should get the ECU swap done. Any of you techy types know how this swap would affect things after the mods and mapping have been done?

Are you trying to say you fixxed the lag on your own?????:dundun:

And what is this "FAST CARD"???:confused:

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200469

Mine is at a tuner right now getting a Graves Ti cat eliminator and a fast card. They're going to custom map it, which I assume will bypass the stock ECU. For peace of mind/resale value/whatever.. I still feel like I should get the ECU swap done. Any of you techy types know how this swap would affect things after the mods and mapping have been done?

The Fast Card is not a fix and will not remove the lag... :) This has been tried before.

Only a new / reprogram factory ECU will solve the lag issue.

So I wonder if I'll need a remap (with the already installed mods) after the ECU is swapped by the dealership?

The Fast Card is not a fix and will not remove the lag... :) This has been tried before.I absolutely agree w/ R1lover, this is a stand alone preformance upgrade(s)........nothing to do w/ the original ECM. Your maps and mods will not be affected!! But, just for the amusement, have it re-tuned after the new unit arrives and is installed. I'll bet it has NO affect...............

I may do that.. and post the results, along with before and after dyno charts from stock to mods. I'm pretty interested to see the differences!

I talked to my dealer today and he went over the tech bulletin on the phone with me. He told me that all it means is that a few bikes are experiencing this and that yamaha doesn't have a fix yet, but hopes to in June. He mentioned I was the only one to complain about this so far too.
Maybe I missed something, but before this conversation I was under the impression that on June 6th we would be able to take our bikes to the dealer to have it fixed. I'm not trying to be discouraging, I'm just reporting what my dealer told me.

only a few bikes???? maybe globally speaking..... I hope it isnt some stall BS tactic to sell what they have until the 08s arrive without the problem

Maybe I missed something, but before this conversation I was under the impression that on June 6th we would be able to take our bikes to the dealer to have it fixed. I'm not trying to be discouraging, I'm just reporting what my dealer told me.

Do not bring your bikes in June 6th or you'll be wasting a trip.

Dealers will be notified June 6th what the actual fix will be & how to obtain the parts required.
Parts will have to be ordered unit specific.
As long as there are not any electronic problems with your bikes, there will be no concerns with any mods.

Also, SpidermanSS. Not sure if you noticed, but that Tech bulletin is copy written material for dealer use only.

I haven't heard of any of the throttle lag issues on the Australian bikes, at least of all the ones in Perth. Any reference to the problem on forums is on US forums and notices. I do hope they fix this for you guys soon.

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200469

Thanx!!

The Fast Card is not a fix and will not remove the lag... :) This has been tried before.

But will it do, what it claims it can do???

Do not bring your bikes in June 6th or you'll be wasting a trip.

Dealers will be notified June 6th what the actual fix will be & how to obtain the parts required.
Parts will have to be ordered unit specific.
As long as there are not any electronic problems with your bikes, there will be no concerns with any mods.

Also, SpidermanSS. Not sure if you noticed, but that Tech bulletin is copy written material for dealer use only.

New member Knowing a bit too much!!
HHHmmmm Yammy Rep ?????:confused:

And I'm Sure he Knows that! and i'm Sure they would not have a problem.
He is the R1 Artist. Yamaha Slappa!:thumbup

Do not bring your bikes in June 6th or you'll be wasting a trip.

Dealers will be notified June 6th what the actual fix will be & how to obtain the parts required.
Parts will have to be ordered unit specific.
As long as there are not any electronic problems with your bikes, there will be no concerns with any mods.

Also, SpidermanSS. Not sure if you noticed, but that Tech bulletin is copy written material for dealer use only.

Well since Yamaha would not tell us anything other then "LIVE WITH IT" then this is what will happen.

IF Yamaha would have spoken up to the OWNERS of this bike then we would not have had to waste many many hours on this crap.

So if you want to chime in now, after the fact this has been posted and bitch about a copyright, then I'm calling :bs

Hey Roberts,

We have been trying to get this defect fixed since december of 06 to no avail. Yamaha would only say that it was built in to the program or it was a by product of the bike and we all knew that it was a defect. We are all just frustrated to put it nicely. So, have a little compassion before someone snaps and goes of the deep end. Yamaha has blown us of for the past 5 months and we all knew it was a defect. I guess you haven't experienced the lag or you would know that every US bike has the defect. It should be called the dead spot. But it sounds like a fix is on the way, for that I will try to remain calm and stay positive.

New member Knowing a bit too much!!
HHHmmmm Yammy Rep ?????:confused:


More like an old member with very few posts and concerned with Yamaha's "proprietery" info. I would have to agree.

Whats a "fast card" that was mentioned above?

Thanks Spidey! I hope the fix is truely a fix. Can't wait for the reviews!

Jimmy

Shhhhhh listen closely ......... do you hear it??? Sounds like another "train wreck" coming :yesnod Let's just put this to rest, I assure anyone who is questioning it, that SpidermanSS is not placing information, on the Internet's highest traffic Yamaha specific site, without permission from Yamaha

:fact

I called and lodged my official complaint at the stealership i bought my 07 from, not only did they know nothing of it but told me there was no such problem
as they being in the know had test driven it, my response to them was awright I'm on my way there in my 3/4 ton dodge pickup, you fire up the red 07 on the floor and we're going take em down the pike.
You gimme a thumbs up when you're in 2nd @ 5500 rpms
and I'm gonna pull along your right side and then I'm going to make a hard left lane change and then you can tell me there is nothing wrong when I come to visit you in the hospital when you come out of the coma.
Yeah I sent them the tech bulletin #'s from the sight
the upside is if he still doesn't believe me I get to run over the idiot with my pickem up

..............think 08 ecu.

I bet all my 32 cents, thats the fix.

Hey Roberts,

We have been trying to get this defect fixed since december of 06 to no avail. Yamaha would only say that it was built in to the program or it was a by product of the bike and we all knew that it was a defect. We are all just frustrated to put it nicely. So, have a little compassion before someone snaps and goes of the deep end. Yamaha has blown us of for the past 5 months and we all knew it was a defect. I guess you haven't experienced the lag or you would know that every US bike has the defect. It should be called the dead spot. But it sounds like a fix is on the way, for that I will try to remain calm and stay positive.

Very understandable.
I have experienced the lag & know exactly how you all must feel.
My point with the bulletin posting is that first; something like that can start a frenzy of people driving to their dealer on the 6th & demanding a fix when the dealer won't have one yet; which will just be another let down to everybody.
I have already seen it taken out of context in this thread (people thinking the fix will be available on June 6th). Second, it is copy written material & therefore illegal to reproduce or copy. If the owners of this site have some deal with Yamaha so be it, not sure if they really care?

All that particular bulletin was, was a memo to dealers to inform them that they are addressing the problem so they can inform concerned customers that a fix is in the works, thats it.

Very understandable.


All that particular bulletin was, was a memo to dealers to inform them that they are addressing the problem so they can inform concerned customers that a fix is in the works, thats it.


Then Yamaha might want to do some training in there service departments.... because not one dealer I have heard of knew anything about the bullentin until someone from this forum told them about it.

I agree that Yamaha should be the one doing the communicating here and not this forum, but that is simply not the case is it. Therefore we are left to try and get this issue resolved the only way we know how... and that is communication to the owners on how to file a complaint and posting any information we may run across.

If Yamaha would have addressed this issue and communicated through the proper channels instead of telling us that's just the way it is and live with it, then there would not be half of the publicity there has been on this.

I hope you understand our position.

I find it funny that so many of you think that Yamaha will have a fix for this on June 6th. If you read the tech bulletin carefully, they said to bring the bike in to be diagnosed....not repaired. Maybe they'll think of something by that date, but don't keep your hopes up. I have heard of a few reasons why the bike lags at that certain rpm range, but we'll see what Yamaha has to say. It will be interesting to see how everything plays out. If so...Yamaha is somewhat smarter than I thought...haha

Chill guys, my goodness, six pages already! This is why the last thread was closed. :fact

I see nothing out of hand bro? might as well close the whole forum if this one is closed... :lol cause this is nothing. :)

Yo,

My brother just saw that the 07 YZF R1 is on a list on the lemon law for potential problems. I think that might be the reason for the bulletin, just a guess. I just re-read the Tech Exchange and it does sound like they will have information about the dead spot. I am calling it like it feels. Or mabe just a bike count for now.

Sorry to hear about all these problems guys, but if this issue is only affecting US bikes, it's got to be something to do with the ignition fueling mapping at the said rpm's to pass some sort of emmision test.
As California has the strictest emission laws known to mankind I'd say this is why only US spec bikes seem to be affected...
At the end of the day, to save yen ($) probably all US bikes are California emmissions compliant....
Well I guess it all sucks if you've parted with a shit loads of cash for a brand new state of the art R1 to find it doesn't do what it says on the tin...
Well here's what I'm getting at, if this is an ECU problem localised to the US.. Maybe, getting European or other less pink and fluffy emmission friendly stock map downloaded to the ECU may be the answer...
I'm guessing that the ECU's are the same, just with different maps downloaded onto them to appease different law makers.... I don't
think Yamaha would be to happy with this solution because it wouldn't fit with their look at us were great immage, not to mention their bikes won't work properly in the US. However it might be the way forward??

Don't jump all over me if you think it's BS, its just a thought from someone looking from the outside in...

Hope you find a solution...

Does anyone know how they are fixing the problem?

Anyone read the shoot out in Sport Rider this month?
If there was any dipping and dodging, Yamaha would have been hard pressed to ignore the fact with the write up the mag wrote specifically about it.
Ray

My dealer just called me at home 2 days ago. He stated that he spoke with yamaha directly and they will be doing the ECU swap very soon. He said he would call again when the ECU's are in. Thats good enough for me

So does this mean that this will also fix to stalling that "most" of us are having as well? And along with the rearset breaking off? Guess this is 1 down and 2 more to go huh? I talked to my dealership today as well, they said they will have the stuff in by the 15th, but they said they are replacing the CDI, is that something like Computer Diag...or what? Thought it was the ECU/mapping that was the problem or does that consist of the CDI thing as well?

dang. I didnt know that your bike even had the stall. After all the times of you laughin at me and all

Stay focused, guys. This thread deals specifically with the June 6th fix.

If you think you might have a solution, go to the 90 plus pages on this thread. It's probably been discussed, and probably doesn't work:

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185084

Rearsets and Stalling are also discussed in the Mech Section.

Thanks,
Jimmy

Stay focused, guys. This thread deals specifically with the June 6th fix.

If you think you might have a solution, go to the 90 plus pages on this thread. It's probably been discussed, and probably doesn't work:

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185084

Rearsets and Stalling are also discussed in the Mech Section.

Thanks,
Jimmy


Not to be bothersome here or make this thread any longer but I've read and have been involved in these issues with this bike since I got it in Jan and my bud got his in Dec so I think I know where to find this info at, thanks.:thumbup And I was just putting in that I WONDER if this will fix the problem of stalls and noting about the rearsets so all the Yami reps that visit this site and haggle us about copyright stuff see we're still interested in fixxing EVERYTHING. Plus I dont read that thread anymore since its the same stuff over and over again. Time to start it somewhere new! HA!

...I talked to my dealership today as well, they said they will have the stuff in by the 15th, but they said they are replacing the CDI, is that something like Computer Diag...or what?

The ignition and fuel injection are all controlled by the same electronic box that they now call the Engine Management Unit or ECU. In the old days, the box looked about the same and was call the CDI (Capacitive Discharge Ignition). We're way past that now. In fact, we have to deal with bugs in the programing!

I, for one, am very glad to hear Yamaha is taking a second look at this. They might fix up a few other glitches we are unaware of while they are at it.

woo hoo, getting excited! Day after tomorrow they should have some information

Congrats guys on nearing a (hopeful) resolution to this big issue. Scary to think Yamaha released this in the first place, but hopefully it's behind you all soon.

Now if Yamaha can just get R1 to stand up to the Gixxer in club racing.

... Sorry, couldn't help it. Would be nice to see more R1's on the grids though.

back to the thead...

2 Days For the FIX..........

ANYBODY Going to be LAG free for he GAP RUN!!!:rock

2 Days For the FIX..........

ANYBODY Going to be LAG free for he GAP RUN!!!:rock

Is there something I missed? My understading is that on the 6th the dealers will get information on how to proceed with the fix. I'm just thinking that it could be July or later before we actually see a fix...

I hope I'm wrong!!!

Is there something I missed? My understading is that on the 6th the dealers will get information on how to proceed with the fix. I'm just thinking that it could be July or later before we actually see a fix...

I hope I'm wrong!!!

me too!
your probly right though,
but if you read the Message to dealers in the 1st post its
notifying them right there??????????:confused:

me too!
your probly right though,
but if you read the Message to dealers in the 1st post its
notifying them right there??????????:confused:


I guess at this point its all speculation on how Yamaha will handle the problem. Let’s see what is communicated to the dealers on the 6th.

Is there something I missed? My understading is that on the 6th the dealers will get information on how to proceed with the fix. I'm just thinking that it could be July or later before we actually see a fix...

I hope I'm wrong!!!


I dont care, Im keeping this bike for years so waiting another month is no big deal for something that I have barely noticed.

The main reason I wanted a fix is for resale value when I do unload it in 2-3 years.

me too!
your probly right though,
but if you read the Message to dealers in the 1st post its
notifying them right there??????????:confused:

On the 6th the dealer will be notified on HOW to fix the issue.

On the 6th the dealer will be notified on HOW to fix the issue.

Oh Sorry,
Well i Hope they get all parts need too!
I'm Going to the dealer on the 6th and
going to See whats the Deal, with this
Post 1 dealer notice printed out as PROOF.
so i dont hear any, WHAT lag? What Dealer notice?? :thumbup

me too!
your probly right though,
but if you read the Message to dealers in the 1st post its
notifying them right there??????????:confused:these are the kind of posts that make me laugh... No....Yamaha will not have a fix for you by tomorrow. If you read it carefully, that's when they will inform Yamaha dealers of updates and will begin to have customers bring their bikes in for diagnostics... They never claimed they will have a fix by June 6th... :no

these are the kind of posts that make me laugh... No....Yamaha will not have a fix for you by tomorrow. If you read it carefully, that's when they will inform Yamaha dealers of updates and will begin to have customers bring their bikes in for diagnostics... They never claimed they will have a fix by June 6th... :no

:thumbup :2bitchsla :bash

Well i still dont see where it says that!
To me it reads to the dealer as of the end of May!
If not who was that Written too! SPIDEY?????:confused:
I Dont think so, to the Dealer, as it says if a customer
Comes in run Tests, and Contact your RTA after 6/6/07 for further info
Which means they(dealers) Know already!!! $.02:sing:

Well i still dont see where it says that!
To me it reads to the dealer as of the end of May!
If not who was that Written too! SPIDEY?????:confused:
I Dont think so, to the Dealer, as it says if a customer
Comes in run Tests, and Contact your RTA after 6/6/07 for further info
Which means they(dealers) Know already!!! $.02:sing:

It says this

" Yamaha is currently investigating this issue and we expect to have more information on a resolution by early June"

How hard is that to read? lol

How about we do a little foshizzle for you so you can read it?

"Yizzle is currizzle invizzle thizzle issuizzle and wizzle expizzle to hizzle morizzle informizzle on a rizzle by eizzle Junizzle
"


:lol :lol :lol

Is that clear now? :beer

:fact It says this

" Yamaha is currently investigating this issue and we expect to have more information on a resolution by early June"

How hard is that to read? lol

How about we do a little foshizzle for you so you can read it?

"Yizzle is currizzle invizzle thizzle issuizzle and wizzle expizzle to hizzle morizzle informizzle on a rizzle by eizzle Junizzle
"


:lol :lol :lol

Is that clear now? :beer

:iamwithst
Thats Pretty Ignorant, I'd expect that From others but Not you!:no
So then Explain Who that Letter was addressed to...

:fact

:iamwithst
Thats Pretty Ignorant, I'd expect that From others but Not you!:no
So then Explain Who that Letter was addressed to...

Holy cow J. The "letter" is a notice that is placed on the computer intranet (can't think of what it's called) for Yamaha. It's addressed to everyone that has access to that system and says in plain english that by June they will "expect to have more information on a resolution". Don't know how else to say it man...it states INFORMATION...not "here's an ecu...put it in". Now the INFO might be...hey we have a new ecu that is shipping by x date...but it does not say ANYWHERE that they will have a solution....just I.N.F.O.R.M.A.T.I.O.N.

:fact

:iamwithst
Thats Pretty Ignorant, I'd expect that From others but Not you!:no
So then Explain Who that Letter was addressed to...


I was just messin with ya J..... It's all in fun... I though it was pretty funny though... :lol :lol :beer

Holy cow J. The "letter" is a notice that is placed on the computer intranet (can't think of what it's called) for Yamaha. It's addressed to everyone that has access to that system and says in plain english that by June they will "expect to have more information on a resolution". Don't know how else to say it man...it states INFORMATION...not "here's an ecu...put it in". Now the INFO might be...hey we have a new ecu that is shipping by x date...but it does not say ANYWHERE that they will have a solution....just I.N.F.O.R.M.A.T.I.O.N.

Thanx, Last (Stupid ) Comment!
Wouldn't the Dealer's have Access to that "INTRA_NET" if Spidey did???
anyway Hope tha INFO is some good news, and not some BS!!

I was just messin with ya J..... It's all in fun... I though it was pretty funny though... :lol :lol :beer

It was the fact that it wasn't funny is what Botherd me,
i couldn't Even Properly De-Code what you wrote, it was just some Blabber!
Now if you said! Yamahizzle.......LOL... Nevermind let me Stop!!!
I Just want to be able to change Profile Heading one day!!!:thumbup

Thanx, Last (Stupid ) Comment!
Wouldn't the Dealer's have Access to that "INTRA_NET" if Spidey did???
anyway Hope tha INFO is some good news, and not some BS!!



That's my point J...all dealers have access to the same Tech Update.

That's my point J...all dealers have access to the same Tech Update.

:thumbup

It was the fact that it wasn't funny is what Botherd me,
i couldn't Even Properly De-Code what you wrote, it was just some Blabber!
Now if you said! Yamahizzle.......LOL... Nevermind let me Stop!!!
I Just want to be able to change Profile Heading one day!!!:thumbup

It's called the "Snoop Dog Translator" :lol :lol

http://www.writtenhumor.com/snooptranslator.html

:)

:lol :hammer:


Wow thats pretty *****ing Funny! how did you come across this?

translates to
Wow thizzle prizzle *****izzle Funny! how dizzle you comizzle across thizzle

Why dont you guys just wait till tomorrow...:rollseyes

Why dont you guys just wait till tomorrow...:rollseyes

Why don't you stop picking on us :rollseyes















:lol :lol j/k we were trying to explain it to Jman.....

Why dont you guys just wait till tomorrow...:rollseyes

****Waiting...........:riding

Why don't you stop picking on us :rollseyes
















:lol :lol j/k we were trying to explain it to Jman.....

Tell Him..
We'll Wait for Tommorizzle For Shizzle WheatMizzle!!!!!!!:thumbup

I called 2 dealers in Cincinnati - Fairfield and Beechmont.

Fairfield didn't have a clue of any of this. They have "never had any complaints about a throttle lag on 07 R1 models" and never got the May 23 letter that yamaha supposedly sent out to all dealers.

Beechmont said that it was a simple ECU swap. Out with the old and in with the new.

Has anyone contacted their local dealers yet and asked what the fix actually entails? They told me it would take 1 day. (i can get the seat off, and swap ecu's in less than 5 minutes - so I don't know what this "1-day" service time is...)

YES THE NEW R1 IS SLOWER IN LOWER GEARS,I HAVE A 2001 R1 AND ITS A BEAST,SO TOO THE 07(BOW DOWN) TOO THE 01 R1:bow

YES THE NEW R1 IS SLOWER IN LOWER GEARS,I HAVE A 2001 R1 AND ITS A BEAST,SO TOO THE 07(BOW DOWN) TOO THE 01 R1:bow

THATS THE GHEYEST 1st Post i ever Read!
My Low end will Mean Nothing Once i Break
4K rpms, and Rev High out of that Zone very quickly!
i Would like to see a Race Stock on Stock!!!

My dealer has yet to been notified. Damn idiots didn't even want to call Yami for me about.

just talked w/ the shop I got the bike from - Service Mgr said that a "tech exchange" is basically Yamaha admitting that there is an actual 'problem' vs an isolated incident.

He also said that a "tech exchange" does not necessarily mean that there will be a recall.

My bet is that there will be a just a few folks hitting this site tomorrow :)

just talked w/ the shop I got the bike from - Service Mgr said that a "tech exchange" is basically Yamaha admitting that there is an actual 'problem' vs an isolated incident.

He also said that a "tech exchange" does not necessarily mean that there will be a recall.

My bet is that there will be a just a few folks hitting this site tomorrow :)

Well im goign to the shp Tommorow and finding out for myself.
even if there is not a fix yet. i want to know what the know!

just talked w/ the shop I got the bike from - Service Mgr said that a "tech exchange" is basically Yamaha admitting that there is an actual 'problem' vs an isolated incident.

He also said that a "tech exchange" does not necessarily mean that there will be a recall.

My bet is that there will be a just a few folks hitting this site tomorrow :)

No one said anything about a recall....... where did you pull that from?

All we are after is a FIX and it is coming, if you want to listen to your dealer - go for it, but this forum is where you will find the correct information and also find it first. The Dealers are always last to know anything.... trust me this is not the first issue Yamaha has had nor the last and you will always see it here first.

Like I Said Chief Your Little 07 Is Slow,fly By Wire Throttle,thats Gay,learn How To Spell Kid,when You Hit 4k I'll Be In Texas Youngster

Like I Said Chief Your Little 07 Is Slow,fly By Wire Throttle,thats Gay,learn How To Spell Kid,when You Hit 4k I'll Be In Texas Youngster



:confused: Huh?

O Im Sorry I Thought You Had A R1 Your On The Wrong Site Buddy, But Hey There All Fast So Big Deal,i See You Listed All Your Specs,wow,but That Dont Mean Shit If You Dont Know How To Ride,you Can Put On As Much Equipment As You Want To,that Dont Impress Me,who Cares About Forks And Brake Pads,pegs,let Me Guess Somebody Told You It Would Help The Bike,hahaha,they Just Hustled You For A Bunch Of Money,hahahaha.......youngsters

so what work will the dealer actually be performing and what is causing this problem.

I wish they'd fix all the other problems, low rpm throttle blip = engine dies, weak rearsets that break, and the 5500 throttle lag.

My dealer has yet to been notified. Damn idiots didn't even want to call Yami for me about.

Dealer called me back and said that on June 7th, they will call Yami and request one of the new experimental ECM which are in limited availability. I have no idea what the hell this means. Never heard of an ECM and I'm not sure I want something experimental on my bike.


p.s.
Might have been nice only to allow mods to post in this thread......

"experimental" huh? hmmmmmmmm

Dealer called me back and said that on June 7th, they will call Yami and request one of the new experimental ECM which are in limited availability. I have no idea what the hell this means. Never heard of an ECM and I'm not sure I want something experimental on my bike.


p.s.
Might have been nice only to allow mods to post in this thread......

Engine Control Module

Just another name for it... :)

Well considering the ECU or ECM that came on the 07 stock was experimental too.... :lol I'll take one... :)

Well...I'm looking forward to tomorrow to hearing from you guys about the new ECU!

So I called the dealership where I regret buying my bike from and spoke to the Service Dept associates. Two different times that I called they tried to transfer me to the parts department and told me that they had no idea what I was even talking about and that I never brought my bike in for a service either..... I politely told they have to be the worse dealership that yamaha has in its stable.... I feel like Milton on Office Space when he says, " Im gonna burn this place down!" If it was only an option and I could park my bike out front so I could get a brand new one.... Well, hopefully someone in here will have an answer for us all that we can teach the other less informative dealerships the correct ways to take care of customers. Almost over is all I have to say.

Who's rollin' in there bikes to the dealers today?! I'm hoping there's a positive outcome real soon. Good luck, guys, keep us posted.....

I was at the dealer yesterday picking up some waverunner parts, so I stopped into service to talk to them. At the time they had no knowledge of the fix or bulletin, so I went to the site and showed him the tech exhchange. He said they would look into it. :dunno

I was at the dealer yesterday picking up some waverunner parts, so I stopped into service to talk to them. At the time they had no knowledge of the fix or bulletin, so I went to the site and showed him the tech exhchange. He said they would look into it. :dunno

Same Here, I went to the dealer to pick my Bike up from the shop yesturday,
and asked if they new about this notice he said nothing,
Then i Popped open this thread , showed him the first post and he looked stumped. He took my Bike for a spin, Went 55k RPm held it for a few
and Did not Lag.@ 3 passes. ( and i heard it myself) he then came back and said your bugging and so is your forum. " Your bike pulls Liek a Monster"
than i remember they changed the sprocket!!:chair:

Any body know the equivelant of 55k Rpm in stock gearing!
to -1 counter sprocket ..???? Rpm = ? for the LAG....
If they cannot replicate it on my bike feel they might not even,
fix when the time comes sice parts will be Scarse!:confused:

Same Here, I went to the dealer to pick my Bike up from the shop yesturday,
and asked if they new about this notice he said nothing,
Then i Popped open this thread , showed him the first post and he looked stumped. He took my Bike for a spin, Went 55k RPm held it for a few
and Did not Lag.@ 3 passes. ( and i heard it myself) he then came back and said your bugging and so is your forum. :boom " Your bike pulls Liek a Monster"
than i remember they changed the sprocket!!:chair:

Any body know the equivelant of 55k Rpm in stock gearing!
to -1 counter sprocket ..???? Rpm = ? for the LAG....
If they cannot replicate it on my bike feel they might not even,
fix when the time comes sice parts will be Scarse!:confused:


Ya the rpm equivalent is 55oo rpm..... The -1 will not change where the problem is but thats been stated in about 50 pages on the other forum where you were so kindly directing others to go. Lets keep this to the topic in here so u so decided to tell people the other day.
Sounds like your bike may have had the fix already done since you changed sprockets:bs

Same Here, I went to the dealer to pick my Bike up from the shop yesturday,
and asked if they new about this notice he said nothing,
Then i Popped open this thread , showed him the first post and he looked stumped. He took my Bike for a spin, Went 55k RPm held it for a few
and Did not Lag.@ 3 passes. ( and i heard it myself) he then came back and said your bugging and so is your forum. " Your bike pulls Liek a Monster"
than i remember they changed the sprocket!!:chair:

Any body know the equivelant of 55k Rpm in stock gearing!
to -1 counter sprocket ..???? Rpm = ? for the LAG....
If they cannot replicate it on my bike feel they might not even,
fix when the time comes sice parts will be Scarse!:confused:

When you go -1, it's still at 48 MPH indicated on the speedo.... don't go by the tach now... use 48 MPH... :)

Ya the rpm equivalent is 55oo rpm..... The -1 will not change where the problem is but thats been stated in about 50 pages on the other forum where you were so kindly directing others to go. Lets keep this to the topic in here so u so decided to tell people the other day.
Sounds like your bike may have had the fix already done since you changed sprockets:bs

Well, i didnt attempt it myself,
i will try later. i figured it would be higher in the rpm range!:confused:
Never said my bike was fixed ,i said the tech could not replicated the lag,,
I didnt bother with it cuz i was too busy having fun to wory about any negatives of my BIKE!

When you go -1, it's still at 48 MPH indicated on the speedo.... don't go by the tach now... use 48 MPH... :)

So is the Guy above you :owwn3d or what.
he just tried to get all smart with me over some BS!
its by the speed now, not 55K rpm Correct! :fact
So the SQUID as they say was correct... HHHmmmm:secret:

Ya the rpm equivalent is 55oo rpm..... The -1 will not change where the problem is but thats been stated in about 50 pages on the other forum where you were so kindly directing others to go. Lets keep this to the topic in here so u so decided to tell people the other day.
Sounds like your bike may have had the fix already done since you changed sprockets:bs

For someone who thinks they have read all those pages........... maybe you should read again....

The lag issue is always at 48 mph (indicated) no matter what rpm you have based on changing the gearing.

For someone who thinks they have read all those pages........... maybe you should read again....

The lag issue is always at 48 mph (indicated) no matter what rpm you have based on changing the gearing.

Well I remeber when he called the Yami Reps and this was the solution they gave him. But you know he was the 3rd or 4th guy in the Lag thread to bring up the problem as well. So I think he knows just as much about this as you do there fella:thumbup and where to find the 90+ pages of same old, same old. Thats why we stop, at least I have, looking in that thread. Dont hate because we tried to fix it the way Yami told us to, even tho we KNEW it wouldn't even come close to fixxin it. Besides we go faster now with the -1 tooth minus the ~167 top speed now.:sing:

Well I remeber when he called the Yami Reps and this was the solution they gave him. But you know he was the 3rd or 4th guy in the Lag thread to bring up the problem as well. So I think he knows just as much about this as you do there fella:thumbup and where to find the 90+ pages of same old, same old. Thats why we stop, at least I have, looking in that thread. Dont hate because we tried to fix it the way Yami told us to, even tho we KNEW it wouldn't even come close to fixxin it. Besides we go faster now with the -1 tooth minus the ~167 top speed now.:sing:

:iamwithst
But i will agree with you on that last part!!:thumbup

Well I just got off of the phone with my dealer and they ran my VIN # through the yamaha system and came up with NO recalls or fixes at this time. :banghead:

sorry, I did not mean "recall" on the bike

but a fix or a new ECU or whatever Yamaha will replaceable to fix the lag issue, thus the point being that Yamaha will not necessarily be fixing the issue - just admitting that it exists.

But hopefully they will have a fix.....

Plus one....


Stan


Well I just got off of the phone with my dealer and they ran my VIN # through the yamaha system and came up with NO recalls or fixes at this time. :banghead:

As I stated a few pages back I talked to my dealership and they said they could order the parts on the 10th and for me to call back on the 15th, when the parts should be in. They also said they are replacing the CDI, which user Adamsys said is the Capacitive Discharge Ignition. So, if they think this will fix it, then I'll take it and if it doesn't then they might need to actually redefine the mapping. I'm going to ask the have the old one to so if the bike is even more messed up I can revert back to this one instead. The strange this is my dealership knew what I was talking about right off the bat, but my buddies dealership had noooooo possible clue of what I was talking about. Weird and they're not to far apart from each other.

Yeah that sounds right. When the guy answered the phone and I told him about the tech exhange he put me on hold and came back talking something about coils and thats when I gave him my vin # and he looked it up. I wasn't really sure what he was talking about with coils.

Hmm...I think I might wait this one out for a while. Sounds a little fishy.

Just for grins I called my dealer and asked about it. They are taking it very literally. He said we can call them tomorrow...when it is AFTER the 6th. I just had to laugh. :chair:

Just for grins I called my dealer and asked about it. They are taking it very literally. He said we can call them tomorrow...when it is AFTER the 6th. I just had to laugh. :chair:

LOL....:thumbup

I talked to my dealer today and asked what was up. He called Yamaha and then called me back and said my new ECU will be in next week. He is going to call me when it is in. He also said that they will install it while I wait (15 minutes).:rock

i guess now the question is if you can go to a different dealer than you bought from and have them get the ECU for you.

I talked to my dealer today and asked what was up. He called Yamaha and then called me back and said my new ECU will be in next week. He is going to call me when it is in. He also said that they will install it while I wait (15 minutes).:rock
Hmm, well thats the first any of us have heard that. My Dealer has yet to be informed of ANY news as of today.

Wow, good question. I hate my dealer.

Me too.


Stan


Hmm, well thats the first any of us have heard that. My Dealer has yet to be informed of ANY news as of today.

Called my Dealer as well, he went "duuuhhhhh I dont know of any problem, and I talk to Yamaha every day" There must be more guys that dont complain, than there are us that do is all I can think of.
Then called Cypress, they did two things, gave me mid month June as Target solution date, then while I was on the phone, called my Dealer Service Dept and put him in the loop.

When I called my dealership a while back they said it would take ~30 mins to change out the parts and would have them in 5 days after they order it. Guess my guys are going to take their time. And my dealership said as long as you set up an time for your bike to be worked on, you can go to any dealership you want to. A Yamaha is a Yamaha, doens't matter which dealership you go to.

The dealership I bought my bike from is pretty far from me, so they actually told me to take it to my local dealer. The service manager at the local shop says I'm the first and only one they know of to complain of this isse. He said when they get a solution from yamaha, I'll be the first bike they'll fix. So I guess it doesn't matter what yamaha dealership fixes the bike.

Man That Sucks Guys,yamaha Should Recall All Those Bikes,and Pay Everybody The Full Price Of The Bike,or Fix All Of Them For Free,good Luck Guys,yami R1 Familia,later

Dealership called today and said the ECU was being shipped out today. Would be in next week sometime. He said they would change it out while I wait. I should hope so because it is a 5 minute job. Let's see; 2 seat bolts, unplug CPU, remove 4 pushpins.

Anyway, he said that there were limited number produced and that it would be first call first served and after that they would be on backorder. The CPU that comes off the bike must be returned to Yamaha within 2 weeks or the dealerships will be charged for it. Not sure what that is all about.

I am not stating any of this as facts, but this is what I was told.
Guess I will find out next week if he knows what he is talking about.

P.S. What the heck happened to this thread? It started off well. Now seems to be full of people bickering over stuff that has already been discussed many times. o well, just thought I would post my info.

hey, i was wondering if there was any news about the 07 r1 throttle lag/glitch problem fix?? it's june 6th now,, and that was date given... :)

Dealership called today and said the ECU was being shipped out today. Would be in next week sometime. He said they would change it out while I wait. I should hope so because it is a 5 minute job. Let's see; 2 seat bolts, unplug CPU, remove 4 pushpins.

Anyway, he said that there were limited number produced and that it would be first call first served and after that they would be on backorder. The CPU that comes off the bike must be returned to Yamaha within 2 weeks or the dealerships will be charged for it. Not sure what that is all about.

I am not stating any of this as facts, but this is what I was told.
Guess I will find out next week if he knows what he is talking about.

sounds exactly like what my dealer told me.

damn, Talk about cold feet, I figured there would be more responses as of this point.....................Nobody off mid-week??? I'll call in the morning, to the dealer, then call my close friend w/ insight, (usually) to verify whats up! Im sure he hates me up to this point....... Will see.........

So is the Guy above you :owwn3d or what.
he just tried to get all smart with me over some BS!
its by the speed now, not 55K rpm Correct! :fact
So the SQUID as they say was correct... HHHmmmm:secret:
If you want me to be a smart ass than I will but knowing what I am talking about doesnt mean that I am being a smart ass. It is still at 5500rpm but what would I know about anything right.... Your the avoider of trying to get this issue fixed so your quote in your name says. Just stating the obvious what I know and all the others in here have experienced as well.

:corn

If you want me to be a smart ass than I will but knowing what I am talking about doesnt mean that I am being a smart ass. It is still at 5500rpm but what would I know about anything right.... Your the avoider of trying to get this issue fixed so your quote in your name says. Just stating the obvious what I know and all the others in here have experienced as well.

What Are you talking about.
You WHERE WRONG, My question was, with the new sprocket
is the LAG in the same spot because the tech could not find it..
I Did it yestyrday and it was not at 55K....
It is at 48 MPH. LIke R1 Lover Stated So you being a smart @$$
means nothing to me because your Facts are Worthless!:thumbup

And YEs if My Bike has a dead Spot. i Would Rather Avoid it, than to pretend its not there!!:dundun: The Fix is coming!!!!!:bow

Well now you must be an idiot then. Think about it. You change your front sprocket and now your speedo is not the correct speed as it was. So your 48 mph that you are seeing is actually slower than what you think. It is at 5500rpm still. So the only thing worthless in here is having you take up so much space in these threads. Go do something useful and ride around it like all of us in here do... E.A.D.
Yes the fix is on the way hopefully.

You gotta point.

Well now you must be an idiot then. Think about it. You change your front sprocket and now your speedo is not the correct speed as it was. So your 48 mph that you are seeing is actually slower than what you think. It is at 5500rpm still. So the only thing worthless in here is having you take up so much space in these threads. Go do something useful and ride around it like all of us in here do... E.A.D.
Yes the fix is on the way hopefully.

:dundun:
The reading of 48 MPH not actual speed.
How could i possibly estimate that with the new sprocket.
Just stop your digging youself a Grave!!! $.02

I've been riding around this BS since i first got my Bike.
I knew about it before i had it , and its always been a concern of mine.
And I am happy Yammy is finally digging into it!!

Well now you must be an idiot then. Think about it. You change your front sprocket and now your speedo is not the correct speed as it was. So your 48 mph that you are seeing is actually slower than what you think. It is at 5500rpm still. So the only thing worthless in here is having you take up so much space in these threads. Go do something useful and ride around it like all of us in here do... E.A.D.
Yes the fix is on the way hopefully.
COULD'NT HAVE BEEN SAID ANY BETTER..........:boom

Hate, hate, hate, hate. Might as well stop there, all you're doing is:horse: with this guy. But...in my view its more like this.....:sissy: But hey, what do I know?

Well now you must be an idiot then. Think about it. You change your front sprocket and now your speedo is not the correct speed as it was. So your 48 mph that you are seeing is actually slower than what you think. It is at 5500rpm still. So the only thing worthless in here is having you take up so much space in these threads. Go do something useful and ride around it like all of us in here do... E.A.D.
Yes the fix is on the way hopefully.

You are not listening to anyone here so just go away...


Here is the fact again.... WHEN THE SPEEDO READS 48 MPH (not the true speed) this is where the LAG WILL BE. no matter the rpm... if you go -1 in the front then it WILL NOT BE 5500RPM's any longer.....

You are not listening to anyone here so just go away...

Here is the fact again.... WHEN THE SPEEDO READS 48 MPH (not the true speed) this is where the LAG WILL BE. no matter the rpm... if you go -1 in the front then it WILL NOT BE 5500RPM's any longer.....

:bow :bow
Bwuahahahaha!!!
:owwn3d by the master..the LAG Vid Maker!!!!
So i think he might know ALOT more than the both of us on this matter.:thumbup IMHO.....

Okay I have good news and bad news. Which one you want to hear first?

Good news is: Dealership just called and said the ECU just came in. That was fast considering he just called yesterday to tell me it was being shipped from Yamaha.

Bad news is: We currently have 40+mph winds and a tornado warning out. Hopefully the weather will be better tomorrow and I can ride up and get it changed out. I will post more info when I have it.

Okay I have good news and bad news. Which one you want to hear first?

Good news is: Dealership just called and said the ECU just came in. That was fast considering he just called yesterday to tell me it was being shipped from Yamaha.

Bad news is: We currently have 40+mph winds and a tornado warning out. Hopefully the weather will be better tomorrow and I can ride up and get it changed out. I will post more info when I have it.

Thank you!!!
great news, Keep us posted!
Anyway the 07 R1 is Tornado resistant, go try it now.
Why do you think the side farings Stick out like that!
So that it holds all spinning wind straight against the Body!!!
try it out!!:thumbup

I just called today. The tech said he'd heard about the problem. I mentioned others having new ECUs sent by Yammy, and he said he'd call me back.

Hopefully I get mine as quick as R1 MASTER did. As for this argument, I'll check where the lag is next time I ride, since I just went -1 in the front. It's been pretty shitty weather here in Colorado Springs, though....

My dealer is making the call today to see if they can get one as well.

Well I dont know about ya'll, but I know at 5500 RPM I still see the lag and I did the -1 tooth on mine and I STILL lag at 5500, its says 48 for me on the speedo so I know thats like ~45ish, since I know that 80 is 75. Thanks to the trusty PoPo for that reading. But J Dollarz I remeber you in the last thread and complaining about the problem when you didn't even have a bike, so its no different here since you say 1st gear killer. I guess you just ride around the city with your chicken strips huh? Sounds fun, I suppose. But who cares where the lag is, its still there and still bugging me. Oh well.....:sleepy:

Well I dont know about ya'll, but I know at 5500 RPM I still see the lag and I did the -1 tooth on mine and I STILL lag at 5500, its says 48 for me on the speedo so I know thats like ~45ish, since I know that 80 is 75. Thanks to the trusty PoPo for that reading. But J Dollarz I remeber you in the last thread and complaining about the problem when you didn't even have a bike, so its no different here since you say 1st gear killer. I guess you just ride around the city with your chicken strips huh? Sounds fun, I suppose. But who cares where the lag is, its still there and still bugging me. Oh well.....:sleepy:


No Strips here Playa!!!
And i was Pissed About it b4 i bought it!
Now i Own it, What else do you have to Say???
and yes i Ride Around it, what do you want me to do,
hang around the lag area all day waiting for that Semi to come
only to grab some throttle and get Smashed???? Dont think so,
but your right, i will change that for you Cuz with my -1
im hardly ever in first any more! :thumbup

Just got off the phone w/ the dealer, mines ordered, should be a few days and I'll have it. Those of you who reported the problem w/ the dealer should also call. If its been documented by your dealer, they dont want to see the bike. Only til the ECU arrives...........

I spoke to my dealer today and they said that that underneath the "tech exchange M2007-007" notice it says what is stated above but also included something about the clutch slipping from abuse. I said what are you talking about, Ive been riding for 23 years, this isnt a clutch problem!! He said bring it in and we will look at it. Now I envison some yahoo burning up the clutch on my 600 mile old R1 at the dealership.

Is there anything I can say or do so I dont have to leave my bike there and they can just order the ECU???

Okay I have good news and bad news. Which one you want to hear first?

Good news is: Dealership just called and said the ECU just came in. That was fast considering he just called yesterday to tell me it was being shipped from Yamaha.

Bad news is: We currently have 40+mph winds and a tornado warning out. Hopefully the weather will be better tomorrow and I can ride up and get it changed out. I will post more info when I have it.
Right on, Bro!! Just wanting to say Thanks for posting that quickly. Please fill us in as soon as you stretch the legs on bike!! Man, oh man, I think I'd be the Tornado w/ a new ECU rippin it up!! Any how, Thanks again

I spoke to my dealer today and they said that that underneath the "tech exchange M2007-007" notice it says what is stated above but also included something about the clutch slipping from abuse. I said what are you talking about, Ive been riding for 23 years, this isnt a clutch problem!! He said bring it in and we will look at it. Now I envison some yahoo burning up the clutch on my 600 mile old R1 at the dealership.

Is there anything I can say or do so I dont have to leave my bike there and they can just order the ECU???
Just let them see it, they need the info anyways, and they wont even touch it. These guys @ my dealer knows how I am about the bike. No-one touches it! Plus, let them know there retards for even saying chit like that. Just tell them your no idiot, I think you would be able to tell. If they insist, tell them to pull the clutch apart and inspect it! That usually stops em........

My dealer called me, mine will be here wednesday...

Wheatman, who's you dealer? I've called three local dealers, none know anything about this.

No Strips here Playa!!!
And i was Pissed About it b4 i bought it!
Now i Own it, What else do you have to Say???
and yes i Ride Around it, what do you want me to do,
hang around the lag area all day waiting for that Semi to come
only to grab some throttle and get Smashed???? Dont think so,
but your right, i will change that for you Cuz with my -1
im hardly ever in first any more! :thumbup
Ummm, throttle lag is in 2nd gear, not first.

My dealer called me today, and said that Yamaha was going to be sending him an ECU for my bike. He said that he would have to send the old ECU back to Yamaha within a week, and wants feedback from me about the new ECU...........sounds like they still may be fishing for a fix.

Yamaha told him that they were going to send out only a few ECU's to those people that are complaining. It wasn't clear if they would eventually make it available to everyone. Sounded to me like they are going to try to silence those that are aware of the problem, hoping to avoid a fleetwide ECU replacement.

What do you guys think?

Jimmy

Finally got tired of waiting for my dealer to call me back. I called them and he said he couldn't find anything describing the problem or the fix. I gave him the M2007-007 number. He said that should help, but still needed to talk with Yamaha.

Doesn't seem to me like this will be a quick fix.... glad some already have their ECUs in. Hopefully mine's the same.

My dealer called me today, and said that Yamaha was going to be sending him an ECU for my bike. He said that he would have to send the old ECU back to Yamaha within a week, and wants feedback from me about the new ECU...........sounds like they still may be fishing for a fix.

Yamaha told him that they were going to send out only a few ECU's to those people that are complaining. It wasn't clear if they would eventually make it available to everyone. Sounded to me like they are going to try to silence those that are aware of the problem, hoping to avoid a fleetwide ECU replacement.

What do you guys think?

Jimmy

Now that it is mentioned on Sport Rider Magazine, Yamaha will have a tough time keeping this quiet.

Also, my dealer is calling Yamaha 2morrow to push the issue. I'll post an update.

Wheatman, who's you dealer? I've called three local dealers, none know anything about this.
What good is that gonna do ya? I'll have the "Fix" here on wednesday before we roll out for the covention. I'll post in this thread wednesday afternoon.

Talked to my dealer - there will be a recall at some point when they are sure that this ECU map fixes the problem and they put it into mass production. He said they are giving the first batch to people who have brought their bike in to the shop and filed an official complaint. The full run wont be for a few months so if you dont get one of the first ones it will definitely get replaced eventually.

What good is that gonna do ya? I'll have the "Fix" here on wednesday before we roll out for the covention. I'll post in this thread wednesday afternoon.

I would like to get one on order and would like to talk to a dealer that knows what's going on!

I spoke to my dealer today and they said that that underneath the "tech exchange M2007-007" notice it says what is stated above but also included something about the clutch slipping from abuse. I said what are you talking about, Ive been riding for 23 years, this isnt a clutch problem!! He said bring it in and we will look at it. Now I envison some yahoo burning up the clutch on my 600 mile old R1 at the dealership.

Is there anything I can say or do so I dont have to leave my bike there and they can just order the ECU???

My dealer just said the same thing, I am pretty hot. Especially considering the price I paid for my bike. He goes bring it in so we can check for rider abuse!
WOW! By all means, lets not take give the customer the benefit of the doubt. My Dealer is finding new ways to have me not refer customers to them. Will stop by tonight and have a go with the Sales Manager about and this forum.
Ray

I need to find a different dealership in my area, the one local keeps stonewalling me. I went again today and they are still claiming ignorance. I think they just don't want anything to do with it since they wont make any money off it.

*EDIT* So I found a list of Yamaha dealerships on the Yamaha site, gave one a call in the next town over. Their service department was already closed for the day, but it appears I may have better luck with them. When I mentioned the dealership that is giving me the run around the sales person I was talking to told me that they get alot of people from that dealership who wont let that dealership work on their bikes anymore. Plus this new dealership is listed as 5 star certified by Yamaha, so seems to me I may be on the right path now.

Make a Service Technician ride your Bike. Then make sure he calls Tech line to report the Glitch with Your Bike. :fact

Make a Service Technician ride your Bike. Then make sure he calls Tech line to report the Glitch with Your Bike. :fact

The 5500 RPM / 48 MPH bit you mean? Do they have to actually ride it and hit it themselves to be able to replace the ECU? I mean shit, if it's a known problem why are they pretending its hit and miss when they know it's a ECU thing? sigh...

I doubt when they figure it out that they'll actually make the service dept verify each bike has the problem, once they realize there is a bad map in the ECU as designed, not as a random defect. If they haven't figured it out already...

so does anyone know if the new ECU's work??? and is the problem fixed at all

I'll have some fixed ECU bikes at the GAP this weekend and let everyone know how they GO :)

I'll have some fixed ECU bikes at the GAP this weekend and let everyone know how they GO :)

Looking forward to it!!

bring a spare for me ? :)

bring a spare for me ? :)

Me too, me too!!

mine is ordered.... hope everything goes well at the gap this weekend.

good news from the dealer today, my new ecu will be here next week, I had let him know the specifics on the lag issue awhile back when I talked to him today he said he took a new 07 off the floor and tried to reproduce the lag
and couldn't get it to do it at all, it may be BS but from what yamaha told him not all of the 07's had the problem
my response was, well maybe yamaha should visit the forum and see how many pages there are concerning the issue

When did they order it?

stan


mine is ordered.... hope everything goes well at the gap this weekend.

Make a Service Technician ride your Bike. Then make sure he calls Tech line to report the Glitch with Your Bike. :fact

Thats what I did this morning. Report filed, ECU on its way! :)

The service technician said they knew of the problem, they just had to reproduce it on the bike and I had to sign a form. Piece of cake.

He also said Yamaha may run out of replacement ECUs very soon so get down to the dealer this weekend would by my suggestion - otherwise wait till the official recall.

Does my suzuki need a new ECU?????? :finger

Does my suzuki need a new ECU?????? :finger

Nope...just a frame. :finger:

Nope...just a frame. :finger:



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