: porting/power
BSR-1 11-04-2007, 08:55 PM I'm hoping you will all keep me in mind for your winter build up.
I already have a 04-06 head that is ported & waiting to be milled & valve job.
this head also has been port matched to a set of single bladed, ported throttle bodies matched to a custom large volume airbox & lifetime filter.
I also have a 04-06 head that is being ported now.
I will also port your head.
I can do very good work at half the price of the big names
this is the real deal! I can make a dramatic difference in your bike! you won't be wondering if it made a difference.
you can gain only so much power with the pipe & pc111. if you want more, this is the way to get it!
wfofz1@hotmail.com 949 292 6353 (after 8:00 pacific)
yokedup05 11-05-2007, 08:10 AM By way of APE Racing I can vouche for BSR-1. I purchased a P/P head from him and sent it to APE Racing to have it milled they said the job he did was grade A :thumbup I haven't had it put in yet but hopefully in the next month or so...
rtpassini 11-05-2007, 10:28 AM whats the price on this?
valdez 11-05-2007, 03:15 PM Can you do 02's ? What kind of price am i looking at?
vance 11-05-2007, 04:03 PM I don't really need more power, but......wtf am I saying?
How much?
vtecetr92 11-05-2007, 04:27 PM BSR-1 does a great job..
I bought a head off him several month's back.. Looks and works great!
DJack 11-05-2007, 04:31 PM :cornwhat are the gains
vtecetr92 11-05-2007, 04:35 PM :cornwhat are the gains
Depends on what you have done.. and how your bikes tuned..
I picked up almost 10hp with just the headwork
bob sierra 11-05-2007, 05:16 PM $$??
traeday3 11-05-2007, 05:25 PM $$??
Same ? How Much?
BSR-1 11-05-2007, 05:31 PM I can port, mill & multi angle valve job for 1000.
if you check around you'll see that is less than porting alone anywhere else I can think of. at some places that's half the price of just porting.
I can do 02's, heck I'll port anything (I think).
bob sierra 11-05-2007, 09:44 PM I'll do it for $500, it only take about 3 maybe 4 hrs to do.
BSR-1 11-06-2007, 06:58 AM I'll do it for $500, it only take about 3 maybe 4 hrs to do.
go for it!
Sexton-R1 11-06-2007, 07:19 AM :saw: :jump :corn this is gonna get good
Captain Squid 11-06-2007, 07:27 AM I'll do it for $500, it only take about 3 maybe 4 hrs to do.
I think it's a little more than wiping a rag over everything :dundun:
brnrber 11-06-2007, 08:08 AM I think it's a little more than wiping a rag over everything :dundun:
lol :fact
2WEELFERRUM04 11-06-2007, 09:35 AM hey BSR-1
have you installed that head on your brothers bike yet and if so what is the difference in power output?
JAYSTENSEC4CYL 11-06-2007, 10:40 AM http://www.speed-tribe.com/__FileGrabber.axd?id=8570
JAYSTENSEC4CYL 11-06-2007, 10:41 AM http://www.speed-tribe.com/__FileGrabber.axd?id=8571
JAYSTENSEC4CYL 11-06-2007, 10:42 AM damn it why does that not come up in a pic? I hate computers...
early R6, done yesterday.
Captain Squid 11-06-2007, 10:43 AM It comes up when you click on it. looks good
BSR-1 11-06-2007, 05:52 PM damn it why does that not come up in a pic? I hate computers...
early R6, done yesterday.
you tryin' to muscle in on my action? :nforc:
was that before or after? :crash
DJack 11-06-2007, 06:10 PM I am a big ass person. might need this mod!!!
bob sierra 11-06-2007, 06:18 PM I used a Dremel on mine. It took about 3-4 hrs. and looks as good as any ones.
bob sierra 11-06-2007, 06:19 PM I am a big ass person. might need this mod!!!
++ 1 on the ass part.:sneaky
DJack 11-06-2007, 06:22 PM ++ 1 on the ass part.:sneaky
another fan??:thumbup
bob sierra 11-06-2007, 06:27 PM another fan??:thumbup
With the dimples on the lower back, just above the butt. Oh yea...:bow
DJack 11-06-2007, 06:29 PM With the dimples on the lower back, just above the butt. Oh yea...:bow
UHHHHH:lhumper: No that was Not me!!!:scared
BSR-1 11-06-2007, 06:30 PM I used a Dremel on mine. It took about 3-4 hrs. and looks as good as any ones.
you da man! :epimp
funny it takes me a couple hours to disassemble & reassemble.
all told I have about 40 hours into each head I've done.
bob sierra 11-06-2007, 06:55 PM Thats just polishing, 4 hrs. It looks just like ur AV.
JAYSTENSEC4CYL 11-06-2007, 08:32 PM keep in mind there is a very big difference between cleaning up the stock ports, which is what i do, and actual porting for power, which is what the big guys do with knowledge of what works and what does not from flow bench and dyno testing.
Smoothing the ports helps, and blending the sometimes not great valve seats is a real help, but don't confuse 3-4 hours with your dremel with actual porting.
when you pay $1000 to the big guys for a port job you get a head that will have the same cc's in ever chamber, same cc's in each port, and same flow numbers from each port. Some of the bigger guys now have CNC machines that do their porting for them, KWS comes to mind.
BSR-1's work is top notch. And $1000 for a head that has a valve job and a port job is a steal. After seeing his work I had to step up my game :)
Bob why don't you post some pics of your work? Then we can all see what a 3 hour port job looks like.
bob sierra 11-06-2007, 09:43 PM Ok, yea let me take my head off again..... I'm not nocking BSR-1 work. It looks very good. I'm just saying with some time and some info any one can do it it's not that hard. As for me charging $500, I would'nt do it again, it was a joke. Amatter of fact, I told my friend about BSR-1. He asked if I would do it for him, and I told him NO. So he might be hitting you up BSR-1.
JAYSTENSEC4CYL 11-07-2007, 06:00 PM well if I could earn $500 in three hours I would jump all over it myself :)
But then to be honest it takes me consideriably longer than that to just clean up the ports to my satisfaction.
I mean the grinding of the imperfections, the sanding of the entire surface, the smoothing everything, the disassembly, the washing of the bare head once the messy work is done, the cleaning of all the valves before they go back in, the lapping of all the valves, the reassemble of all of it with new valve guide seals. Takes me some time.
It would take me even longer if I actually knew what i was doing, as got a valve job (seats cut) during the process. Then you could always measure every installed spring height, and test every spring while it is out, cc every chamber....etc
I hope to get there eventually, but I am not there yet :(
JAYSTENSEC4CYL 11-07-2007, 06:01 PM Ow, and just so you know, I am not sure how your bike is put together, but to see the intake ports you don't have to pull the head, just the fuel tank, top of the air box, and the filter. Carbs if you really want a good look, but it's not 100% nessiary for pics.
BSR-1 11-07-2007, 09:33 PM I'll do it for $500, it only take about 3 maybe 4 hrs to do.
originally posted by R1scooter:
"Porting only of the 04-05 head is good for around 5-7hp. But that with a real valve seat job (4angle cut with a blend into the throat) will get you into the 12+hp gain range. BUT, do not cut too far. Do not cut too far. Do not cut too far. There will be a piont where you remove around 17-20 thousands off the floor of the ports. DO NOT GO ANY Further. You will not see gains past that point. The port will out flow the valves and you will lose enough velocity that the mid range WILL suffer. The only fix at that point is larger valves. That head has not shown much improvement with the larger valves by the ones I've played with. Also, the seats in this head do not meet the throat very well. You will notice a "step" on the inside of the intake runners, just under the seat. Blend this by taking a small part of the seat off where it meets the head. Also, completely removing the guides from the intakes doesn't seem to help the flow that much. Blend them in on the intake side, but don't remove them completely. Balance the combustion chambers while you're at it. Stock chamber displacment is around 12.7 cc's. Mill the head .017" and you'll drop that too around 11.7. The stock chamber has plently of material that shrouding the valves which can be removed. The real gains on this head are at the seat/ valve section. Backcutting the valve is also advisable on this bike. Do that to the 04-05 heads and you'll see real differences.
I saw on here once where some one was claiming a port/ valve job shouldn't cost more than $500. :bs A real job on this head takes a LONG time. But it really does pay off. 12+ is obtainable with no ill effects whatsoever. And it retains all the reliability of the stock bike. Good luck:thumbup"
mad271r1 11-07-2007, 10:58 PM originally posted by R1scooter:
"Porting only of the 04-05 head is good for around 5-7hp. But that with a real valve seat job (4angle cut with a blend into the throat) will get you into the 12+hp gain range. BUT, do not cut too far. Do not cut too far. Do not cut too far. There will be a piont where you remove around 17-20 thousands off the floor of the ports. DO NOT GO ANY Further. You will not see gains past that point. The port will out flow the valves and you will lose enough velocity that the mid range WILL suffer. The only fix at that point is larger valves. That head has not shown much improvement with the larger valves by the ones I've played with. Also, the seats in this head do not meet the throat very well. You will notice a "step" on the inside of the intake runners, just under the seat. Blend this by taking a small part of the seat off where it meets the head. Also, completely removing the guides from the intakes doesn't seem to help the flow that much. Blend them in on the intake side, but don't remove them completely. Balance the combustion chambers while you're at it. Stock chamber displacment is around 12.7 cc's. Mill the head .017" and you'll drop that too around 11.7. The stock chamber has plently of material that shrouding the valves which can be removed. The real gains on this head are at the seat/ valve section. Backcutting the valve is also advisable on this bike. Do that to the 04-05 heads and you'll see real differences.
I saw on here once where some one was claiming a port/ valve job shouldn't cost more than $500. :bs A real job on this head takes a LONG time. But it really does pay off. 12+ is obtainable with no ill effects whatsoever. And it retains all the reliability of the stock bike. Good luck:thumbup"
hey u got a flow bench?
BSR-1 11-08-2007, 12:41 PM hey u got a flow bench?
no, I don't have no stinkin' flow bench!
I'm doing this as a hobby & would like to develop into a business.
I've had great results so far & like yokedup said APE racing looked at my work & called it "grade A".
I'm not twisting any body's arm, if you're not comfortable getting work from me rather than a "brand name" place that's fine.
like I said I'm trying to get more work doing this so there's no incentive for me to sell crappy stuff or rip anybody off & I'm almost giving this stuff away at these prices.
marcaztls 11-08-2007, 12:47 PM Just to add my two penneth to this...
Doing an even half decent job on any head takes a very long time and much knowledge. You can severely screw it up if you don't know what you're doing. BSR has done his homework and his work is proven. I'd have no qualms with him doing my head and that's a bargain price. :fact
I have a head sitting in front of me which was done by the legendary Tony Scott (UK tuner) which would have cost a fair few times what BSR is charging. His work is almost on par from what I've seen.
Go BSR, you deserve it :thumbup
BSR-1 11-08-2007, 01:07 PM Just to add my two penneth to this...
Doing an even half decent job on any head takes a very long time and much knowledge. You can severely screw it up if you don't know what you're doing. BSR has done his homework and his work is proven. I'd have no qualms with him doing my head and that's a bargain price. :fact
I have a head sitting in front of me which was done by the legendary Tony Scott (UK tuner) which would have cost a fair few times what BSR is charging. His work is almost on par from what I've seen.
Go BSR, you deserve it :thumbup
thanks Mark!
I can't believe that people can buy a $10,000+ sport bike & then spend 2 grand on a pipe & pc111 but then think they can't afford my work.
personally I ALWAYS want more power, that's why I'm into sportbikes
cause I'm a power/acceleration junkie.
I'm honestly thinking about tearing my bike apart 1 more time to install the head with the port matched airbox & bodies.
I originally made that set up for my brother & then right as I was finishing he decided he was going to sell his bike.
I really put my all into that one, it's even better than what I'm running right now on mine.
anybody that is looking for the best should jump on that one before I use it my self or give it to someone who can use it. I've been thinking of offering it to 1longR1 for almost nothing just so he can report on here about the results. but I don't know if he wants to mess with his motor again.
I wish you had a home for it!
BSR-1 11-08-2007, 01:10 PM I have a head sitting in front of me which was done by the legendary Tony Scott (UK tuner) which would have cost a fair few times what BSR is charging. His work is almost on par from what I've seen.
I'd be willing to give Tony some pointers & bring him up to speed if he's interested. :)
marcaztls 11-08-2007, 01:13 PM thanks Mark!
I can't believe that people can buy a $10,000+ sport bike & then spend 2 grand on a pipe & pc111 but then think they can't afford my work.
personally I ALWAYS want more power, that's why I'm into sportbikes
cause I'm a power/acceleration junkie.
I'm honestly thinking about tearing my bike apart 1 more time to install the head with the port matched airbox & bodies.
I originally made that set up for my brother & then right as I was finishing he decided he was going to sell his bike.
I really put my all into that one, it's even better than what I'm running right now on mine.
anybody that is looking for the best should jump on that one before I use it my self or give it to someone who can use it. I've been thinking of offering it to 1longR1 for almost nothing just so he can report on here about the results. but I don't know if he wants to mess with his motor again.
I wish you had a home for it!
No problem mate, I meant it.
It kinda baffles me too because there's usually more to be had from decent headwork than in a pipe setup... :dundun:
Your brother was just scared of the power that was coming to him, don't take it personally LOL
If you want my opinion, fit that head/throttle body combo to yours and have the results documented. That way you'll be able to offer real proof to people if you end up taking this further which I have no doubt you can. I'm sure once you've done that and proved that setup, you'll be able to sell more of the same.
marcaztls 11-08-2007, 01:17 PM I'd be willing to give Tony some pointers & bring him up to speed if he's interested. :)
:2bitchsla
LOL I have a mate with an incredibly good camera setup that's going to come and photo that head properly for me. I'll post all that up in my thread. My pictures just haven't done it justice. Nice to see the unshrouded valves seats too :1pok: Guess what one of the next things I'm doing to my head will be... I seriously think the flat-faced valves are helping with big power too. I've got quite high hopes for it once I've cleaned the exhaust ports up as they're in such a state at the moment it's scary.
BSR-1 11-08-2007, 01:24 PM I noticed that flat valves are available in some of the yamaha "kit" parts.
they say there good for .20 CR.
I can't even get them here so I don't even know the price but WOW what an easy way to get more CR.
marcaztls 11-08-2007, 01:27 PM Well I've yet to confirm it but I think they're from APE. Don't necessarily go by the pictures on their website though...:sneaky
mad271r1 11-08-2007, 09:34 PM no, I don't have no stinkin' flow bench!
I'm doing this as a hobby & would like to develop into a business.
I've had great results so far & like yokedup said APE racing looked at my work & called it "grade A".
I'm not twisting any body's arm, if you're not comfortable getting work from me rather than a "brand name" place that's fine.
like I said I'm trying to get more work doing this so there's no incentive for me to sell crappy stuff or rip anybody off & I'm almost giving this stuff away at these prices.
well excuse me sorry i asked! i was thinking of sending mine off to u after feb for a tune up and some. i thought grade A work might of come from something more precise like a flow bench becuase obviously if it close its not exact!! i was by no means ?ing ur work lol how rude! good way not to get business!
BSR-1 11-08-2007, 10:02 PM well excuse me sorry i asked! i was thinking of sending mine off to u after feb for a tune up and some. i thought grade A work might of come from something more precise like a flow bench becuase obviously if it close its not exact!! i was by no means ?ing ur work lol how rude! good way not to get business!
jeez dude! like I was just joking!
sorry but I guess it's hard to hear my tone through the key board.
after rereading my post I don't think I was rude at all, the first line may have been misconstrued as such but the rest was just openly stating my intentions.
Captain Squid 11-09-2007, 07:05 AM Not to thread jack.....BUT I can offer the same work that BSR-1 does for $50........I will even pay for you to ship me your stuff, and I will pay the shiping back :crash
J/K it's a hell of a deal you got going on!!!!!!!!!!!
BSR-1 11-09-2007, 07:39 AM Not to thread jack.....BUT I can offer the same work that BSR-1 does for $50........I will even pay for you to ship me your stuff, and I will pay the shiping back :crash
J/K it's a hell of a deal you got going on!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe I'll offer a free set of steak knives? :dunno
2WEELFERRUM04 11-09-2007, 07:45 AM i guess you never read my reply
so i'll ask again
did you install the head on your brothers bike yet?
and if so what were the gains?
BSR-1 11-09-2007, 08:08 AM i guess you never read my reply
so i'll ask again
did you install the head on your brothers bike yet?
and if so what were the gains?
I'm sorry,
in post #39 I explained how just as I was finishing it my brother decided to sell his bike so the whole setup is just sitting here waiting to go to the machinist.
maybe you'd be interested???
sss r1 11-09-2007, 01:19 PM bsr , your port work looks great , good luck mate :epimp
BSR-1 11-09-2007, 01:57 PM some pics of the whole airbox/throttle boby set.
the third pic is before, for comparison.
vtecetr92 11-09-2007, 02:19 PM some pics of the whole airbox/throttle boby set.
the third pic is before, for comparison.
great pics!!!
I need that for mines..
2WEELFERRUM04 11-11-2007, 06:59 AM I'm sorry,
in post #39 I explained how just as I was finishing it my brother decided to sell his bike so the whole setup is just sitting here waiting to go to the machinist.
maybe you'd be interested???
wow i must have not read that post. that's too bad he sold his bike. i'll call you about that set up.
BrianJen77 11-16-2007, 04:51 PM Are the performance gains the same for the 02-03 as the 04-05?
BSR-1 11-16-2007, 05:04 PM Are the performance gains the same for the 02-03 as the 04-05?
I haven't dynoed any 02-03's but I'm sure that I can make just as dramatic an increase for you.
marcaztls 11-17-2007, 04:19 AM I haven't dynoed any 02-03's but I'm sure that I can make just as dramatic an increase for you.
Bring it on Sunshine... :)
Crankshaft 11-17-2007, 05:43 AM keep in mind there is a very big difference between cleaning up the stock ports, which is what i do, and actual porting for power, which is what the big guys do with knowledge of what works and what does not from flow bench and dyno testing.
Smoothing the ports helps, and blending the sometimes not great valve seats is a real help, but don't confuse 3-4 hours with your dremel with actual porting.
when you pay $1000 to the big guys for a port job you get a head that will have the same cc's in ever chamber, same cc's in each port, and same flow numbers from each port. Some of the bigger guys now have CNC machines that do their porting for them, KWS comes to mind.
BSR-1's work is top notch. And $1000 for a head that has a valve job and a port job is a steal. After seeing his work I had to step up my game :)
Bob why don't you post some pics of your work? Then we can all see what a 3 hour port job looks like.
I'm glad somebody said it...
I am a professional mechanic with over twenty years experience and when it comes to porting my '04, I'm going to pay someone who spends their days porting, ccing, and producing real results.
BSR-1 11-17-2007, 08:25 AM Bring it on Sunshine... :)
sounds kinda like a challenge? :flex: Sunshine.
now I just need a guniea....er.....donor with an 02-03. :sneaky
BSR-1 11-17-2007, 08:27 AM I'm glad somebody said it...
I am a professional mechanic with over twenty years experience and when it comes to porting my '04, I'm going to pay someone who spends their days porting, ccing, and producing real results.
I'll be expecting your call, thanks!
00RavenR1 11-17-2007, 04:05 PM I am interested. I have a 2000 R1 head sitting on a blown engine. The engine turned a rod bearing I believe. How much would you charge me to do that year head. I recently purchased a full exhaust and would be interested in a head job. Thanks Steve
BSR-1 11-17-2007, 04:15 PM I'd be glad to rebuild/port that for you.
price would be the same, 1000.00 & that includes milling & a multi angle valve job.
you'll have to adjust your jetting afterwards.
00RavenR1 11-17-2007, 08:18 PM Would I see the same kind of gains that you were talking about with the 04 head? I have been wanting to do it for a long time. How hard is it to get the head off and then back onto the good engine???
marcaztls 11-18-2007, 09:24 AM sounds kinda like a challenge? :flex: Sunshine.
now I just need a guniea....er.....donor with an 02-03. :sneaky
LOL I'd love to squeak up and be that one but I've got to find a new head to have a pop on myself and try something different to what I've done already.
Post up if you do an 02-03 head mate, I'm sure you'll do great work with it :thumbup
BSR-1 11-18-2007, 09:47 AM Would I see the same kind of gains that you were talking about with the 04 head? I have been wanting to do it for a long time. How hard is it to get the head off and then back onto the good engine???
I haven't done an 00 head so I can't give you exact numbers but I can promise it'll be a remarkable difference. you won't be wondering if it made a difference.
do you have a decent set of tools?
the hardest part will be pulling the motor from the frame, after that it's pretty much a bolt off bolt on procedure.
where are you located?
ProphetR1 11-19-2007, 08:15 PM Subscribe they won't know what hit them if I do this hey 1LONGR1 he is throwing you a bone here if you don't I will then i'll come lookin for you lol (just take the bottle of)
The drag guys know I'm tryin not to drag my R1 but stuff like this makes it so hard to resist
00RavenR1 11-22-2007, 10:38 AM Sorry it took so long to get back with you. I am having all kind of computer problems. I am located near Cincinnati Ohio. I have a decent amount of tools, but i am sure I would have to get some more sockets and stuff. I a good with tearing stuff apart, I just dont any experience with timing and stuff like that. I have always wanted to have that extra head I have ported and polished, or whatever would give me the biggest gain. I think it would be worth it if It gave me 10+. Like you said. Some spend 1000.00 for exhaust and may get 10hp and your saying you will get more than 10hp on 04 and up head. My biggest fear is this is the only bike I have and I really am afraid of putting my engines reliability and longevity at risk.
1longR1 11-22-2007, 06:18 PM BSR does great work for great price. ive ported heads, and its no fun.. and hell its 3-4 hours of dissassembly and reassembly. lapping valves, checking everything is no fun. ive had head ported and watched for 4 hours of master at work and learned alot. and i have also bought heads that were already done. and ive had dealings with BSR and he is top notch. he is ever trying for more power and having good success with it.
just porting head wont hurt any reliability at all. it can actually improve mileage, power, less carbon build up and such. if u cant put it together.. than pay someone.. and watch.. find mechanic at local shop or ask around... they all do side jobs.. have them help you. get service manual and go for it. i will tell you this.. on R1.. timing is pain if motor is in bike. its easier with motor out.. and its not but about 10 more minutes to get motor out from just taking head off.
I've been watching his posts for a long while, and I am pretty impressed with his work now that I've seen pictures and explanations. I'm strongly considering it, but right now timing is rough with the Elvis Warrior Trackday coming up and a few others things. I'd love to see flowbench/dyno sheets before and after if it could ever be possible. I think he's onto something with the 04-06 heads. After talking cylinder heads with Billie Rohm of Rohm Performance Machine a few years ago, I am thoroughly convinced there is always good gains to be had. And it sounds to me like BSR1 has been practicing with several things.
GAMBLER 11-22-2007, 07:35 PM Not to thread jack.....BUT I can offer the same work that BSR-1 does for $50........
porting the head, not giving head
jeesh
Vman1300 11-22-2007, 07:41 PM porting the head, not giving head
jeesh
:lol
ssj4sadie 11-23-2007, 08:17 AM So I just found something out that will free up some cash:sneaky
Right now I'm deployed and get back in jan/feb, and am going to do the full exhaust/pc111/vstacks. But seeing this has really made me (despite when I get back all I'll want to do is ride) tear down the engine and replace stuff. My bike has 16,xxx miles on it and has been sitting for over a year, so I know alot of crap possibly needs replacing.
Do you do port matching on the exhaust side? So if I do have the oppurtunity to do this I could perhaps ship the header along with the head (or make a trip up to CA) Also do any work with the engine itself, such as rebuild?
I'm really looking to if I voluntarily bring the bike down to do the most/get the most out of it:flex:
Captain Squid 11-23-2007, 08:22 AM :rant
BSR-1 11-23-2007, 08:38 AM So I just found something out that will free up some cash:sneaky
Right now I'm deployed and get back in jan/feb, and am going to do the full exhaust/pc111/vstacks. But seeing this has really made me (despite when I get back all I'll want to do is ride) tear down the engine and replace stuff. My bike has 16,xxx miles on it and has been sitting for over a year, so I know alot of crap possibly needs replacing.
Do you do port matching on the exhaust side? So if I do have the oppurtunity to do this I could perhaps ship the header along with the head (or make a trip up to CA) Also do any work with the engine itself, such as rebuild?
I'm really looking to if I voluntarily bring the bike down to do the most/get the most out of it:flex:
yes I do port match the exhaust side also but I won't need your headers to do it, I just open it up to the size of the exhaust gasket.
I rebuild the head but not the bottom end. unless you're wanting to add 1000.00 rods or something I don't think you'd need to rebuild at 16,000 miles.
ssj4sadie 11-23-2007, 10:41 AM Rock on. I just need to come up with a game plan. I really don't know crap when it comes to the R1's engine. What else can be done to this engine while you are doing your thing?
But my mind is made up, P&P is the way to go. Will your deal still be good when I get from SWA?
BSR-1 11-23-2007, 11:20 AM Rock on. I just need to come up with a game plan. I really don't know crap when it comes to the R1's engine. What else can be done to this engine while you are doing your thing?
But my mind is made up, P&P is the way to go. Will your deal still be good when I get from SWA?
I'm pretty much doing it all unless $ is no object.
in that case you could get 1000.00 rods, lightened/balanced crank, turbo etc...
SWA? you lost me on that one.
these prices are going to be good only until demand increases.
ssj4sadie 11-23-2007, 11:53 AM SWA is South West Asia (afghanistan)
I really don't see any benefit in the $1000 rods :scared I think I would just leave it at the P&P. What about cams? If those are a grand, F all that.... But this is something I will have done(P&P), unfortunately have to wait two months before I can even see my baby. But as far as a game plan what do you reccomend for head gaskets and all the odds and ends that comes along with tearing down an engine?
BSR-1 11-23-2007, 12:58 PM SWA is South West Asia (afghanistan)
I really don't see any benefit in the $1000 rods :scared I think I would just leave it at the P&P. What about cams? If those are a grand, F all that.... But this is something I will have done(P&P), unfortunately have to wait two months before I can even see my baby. But as far as a game plan what do you reccomend for head gaskets and all the odds and ends that comes along with tearing down an engine?
first off; I appreciate your sacrifice, if it wasn't for guys (& girls) like you we wouldn't be having thanksgiving here at home THANK YOU!
cams for the 04-06 sold for about 900.00 a piece from yec. I'm not sure if they are even available anymore.
I tried a set of the medium cams (more duration but stock lift) & didn't find them to be a big difference so I sold them to finance other projects.
gaskets are a little controversial at the moment. it all depends on what you are comfortable with. I'm running a split stock gasket that is thinner than the yec race gaskets. some say this is too close but so far so good here.
ssj4sadie 11-24-2007, 07:01 AM first off; I appreciate your sacrifice, if it wasn't for guys (& girls) like you we wouldn't be having thanksgiving here at home THANK YOU!
cams for the 04-06 sold for about 900.00 a piece from yec. I'm not sure if they are even available anymore.
I tried a set of the medium cams (more duration but stock lift) & didn't find them to be a big difference so I sold them to finance other projects.
gaskets are a little controversial at the moment. it all depends on what you are comfortable with. I'm running a split stock gasket that is thinner than the yec race gaskets. some say this is too close but so far so good here.
Welcome man, just doing my job. Hope your thanksgiving was good. Wasn't too bad here.
OK so cams and all that jazz are out of the question then. But yeah, this is something that I will definitely do. Just a matter of time now, unfortunately. What does running the thinner gasket do, raise CR?
Name is Kendall by the way.
Welcome man, just doing my job. Hope your thanksgiving was good. Wasn't too bad here.
OK so cams and all that jazz are out of the question then. But yeah, this is something that I will definitely do. Just a matter of time now, unfortunately. What does running the thinner gasket do, raise CR?
Name is Kendall by the way.
Hey Kendall. +1 on the good job out there. Get back and get your mods going! What branch are you with?
The thinner gasket will raise the CR as you thought. It's a good compliment to a good flowing head. If you hadn't had the chance to see the pics of the headwork you should look it up. Looks pretty good.
ssj4sadie 11-24-2007, 10:00 AM Hey Kendall. +1 on the good job out there. Get back and get your mods going! What branch are you with?
The thinner gasket will raise the CR as you thought. It's a good compliment to a good flowing head. If you hadn't had the chance to see the pics of the headwork you should look it up. Looks pretty good.
I'm in the Air Force, but I'm deployed with the Army and my immediate supervisor is Navy:crash Working with the Army can sometimes result in me :2bitchsla when they do some really off the wall dumb crap.
But yeah I'm getting really anxious to get home and start the modding process. Been eyeing this thread for awhile, and contemplating life back in the states. P&P the head is at the top of list of "Stuff for myself". "Project R1" is coming together quite beautifully in my head.
Thanks for the appreciation guys, always a good morale boost to know there are people back in the states that support us:bow
I'm in the Air Force, but I'm deployed with the Army and my immediate supervisor is Navy:crash Working with the Army can sometimes result in me :2bitchsla when they do some really off the wall dumb crap.
But yeah I'm getting really anxious to get home and start the modding process. Been eyeing this thread for awhile, and contemplating life back in the states. P&P the head is at the top of list of "Stuff for myself". "Project R1" is coming together quite beautifully in my head.
Thanks for the appreciation guys, always a good morale boost to know there are people back in the states that support us:bow
Air Force is cool. Caught a lot of rides from the Air Force.
That sounds like a good thing to have at the top of the list. Make sure you keep us all posted on the progress.
Yeah... I know about the feeling of support from home. We didn't get much of it until about the first Gulf War, but it was decent. Better than the responses we drew after Beiruit etc.
Take care...
BSR-1 12-30-2008, 10:41 PM I'd love to see flowbench/dyno sheets before and after if it could ever be possible.
here ya go! this compares my bike from stock to now.
automan 01-01-2009, 05:29 AM here ya go! this compares my bike from stock to now.
would you mind sharing each upgrade mod you have on your bike? 167 is impressive
PimpClayR1 01-01-2009, 09:24 AM here ya go! this compares my bike from stock to now.
That's a nice power increase:rock I think the next bit of cash I get will be sent to u for one of these heads:secret:
BSR-1 01-01-2009, 10:09 AM would you mind sharing each upgrade mod you have on your bike? 167 is impressive
that is with; a pc111, full akro evo, ported, milled, 3 angle valve job, custom airbox with custom stacks that are matched to ported, single bladed throttle bodies that are matched to the intake on the ported head.
Sign me up - My heads in route - Thanks BSR...
junito70 01-01-2009, 10:30 AM BSR-1 do you have any heads for 06 R1 in your possession ? And if not whats the cost to have you if i bring my bike to you to remove the heads and do your magic your not far from me ?
BSR-1 01-01-2009, 10:35 AM BSR-1 do you have any heads for 06 R1 in your possession ? And if not whats the cost to have you if i bring my bike to you to remove the heads and do your magic your not far from me ?
I do have one head right now that I'm taking apart (haven't ported it yet).
it takes me quite a bit of time to pull the motor & put it back. I'd probably charge 500.00 on top of the job.
here ya go! this compares my bike from stock to now.
:lol
I posted that question so long ago I wasn't even subrscribed to this thread any longer.
Nice, very nice. We may have to discuss this :fact
BSR-1 01-01-2009, 11:03 AM :lol
I posted that question so long ago I wasn't even subrscribed to this thread any longer.
Nice, very nice. We may have to discuss this :fact
I don't know why I never responded. maybe because of the haters? I don't remember.
I don't know why I never responded. maybe because of the haters? I don't remember.
I don't know. I waited and waited, but nothing.
I guess I can put you back on my Christmas shopping list now. :lol
Seriously good dyno. Did you ever flow bench the head?
BSR-1 01-01-2009, 11:28 AM I don't know. I waited and waited, but nothing.
I guess I can put you back on my Christmas shopping list now. :lol
Seriously good dyno. Did you ever flow bench the head?
I don't have access to a flow bench.
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