**** Amsoil!

So I ordered 3 gallons of MCF and a 6mo preferred membership on Sunday, it was supposed to ship within 24-72 hours from what the site said. They now have an energy surcharge on top of the tax and $15 for shipping from a Dallas warehouse 15 min from my house. I got a rude email today that says I can't have a 6month membership b/c I was given a free one by a site sponsor like 2 years ago, I can either pay full price or sign up for 1, 5, or 10 years? WTF their site says nothing about 6mo being only for first time purchases. I order oil once a year for the bikes and have no need to buy memberships indefinitely that I will not use. I just think it's bullshit to nickel and dime people over dumb shit. :rant:chair::rant So what synthetics have people had success with in their bikes? And where do you get yours?

300 Ester V by Motul... 10w 40 Local dealer Discount club members and all that noise I dont care for. As they say where there is cheese there is a mousetrap. Bummed you got rooked...

Mobil1 4T syn. @ any auto parts store.

300 Ester V by Motul... 10w 40 Local dealer Discount club members and all that noise I dont care for. As they say where there is cheese there is a mousetrap. Bummed you got rooked... That was my next choice actually. What do you pay for it on average?

That was my next choice actually. What do you pay for it on average? I paid just over $26 3 liters, bike takes 3.1 l...

Oh Wow Thnx For Telling Me

Silkolene Race 0W-40 is great stuff (expensive though, about $12/qt) and I use that in the track bike Usually I just use QuakerState non energy conserving full synthetic in 10W-50. About 4.50/qt at Pep Boys

Dumonde Tech GP4 synthetic

Why is Amsoil obligated to give you dealer cost on oil when you are too cheap to pay $20 for the year? That's just one of their policies and they don't need a big flashing banner on the front page telling you so. The year membership is super cheap for the saving you get. So either buy it or pay retail (like you will for any other oil). As far as shipping goes, if it's 15min from your house, go pick it up. There is a warehouse pickup option. Amsoil doesn't set UPS's shipping charges, nor does UPS's route structure change based on where your house is. $15 to ship 3 gallons of oil is not a lot.

Mobil1 4T syn. @ any auto parts store. :stpd:

Why is Amsoil obligated to give you dealer cost on oil when you are too cheap to pay $20 for the year? That's just one of their policies and they don't need a big flashing banner on the front page telling you so. The year membership is super cheap for the saving you get. So either buy it or pay retail (like you will for any other oil). As far as shipping goes, if it's 15min from your house, go pick it up. There is a warehouse pickup option. Amsoil doesn't set UPS's shipping charges, nor does UPS's route structure change based on where your house is. $15 to ship 3 gallons of oil is not a lot. It's just the point of it, go look at the description of the 6mo membership and tell me where it says you must be a new member to buy it? I'm not asking for a giant flashing banner, any statement at all would be appropriate, there is none at all! :no So I placed an order and was told I can't buy their product unless I pay more. :confused: That is bullshit:fact I do not have time during business hours to go pick it up this week, that's why I wanted it shipped. A responsible company does not hide their policies they are very upfront about them to foster trust and make their customers clear about what is expected and allowed. Making it difficult to do business with you is not a good way to keep customers or get much business. And, cheap or not the extra six months is still wasted money if I am absolutely certain I will not use it, which I am. Incidentally I received an e-mail this morning that my order will be shipped as I ordered it with a 6mo membership. :)

Incidentally I received an e-mail this morning that my order will be shipped as I ordered it with a 6mo membership. :) I'll be damned, it's true what they say: the squeaky wheel gets......

It's just the point of it, go look at the description of the 6mo membership and tell me where it says you must be a new member to buy it? I'm not asking for a giant flashing banner, any statement at all would be appropriate, there is none at all! :no So I placed an order and was told I can't buy their product unless I pay more. :confused: That is bullshit:fact I do not have time during business hours to go pick it up this week, that's why I wanted it shipped. A responsible company does not hide their policies they are very upfront about them to foster trust and make their customers clear about what is expected and allowed. Making it difficult to do business with you is not a good way to keep customers or get much business. And, cheap or not the extra six months is still wasted money if I am absolutely certain I will not use it, which I am. Incidentally I received an e-mail this morning that my order will be shipped as I ordered it with a 6mo membership. :) Dude, you are way over thinking this. It has nothing to do with distrust or difficulty doing business. Amsoil gives consumers a very cheap and easy way to buy product at dealer cost. NO other oil company does this. They actually gave you a free trial of it and offer a 6mo version to newcomers. How exactly does this make them assholes?

Dude, you are way over thinking this. It has nothing to do with distrust or difficulty doing business. Amsoil gives consumers a very cheap and easy way to buy product at dealer cost. NO other oil company does this. They actually gave you a free trial of it and offer a 6mo version to newcomers. How exactly does this make them assholes? My free trial was purchased by a site sponser here. Not by corporate. The 6mo should be open to all and unless the policy is clearly stated on the description it is. Anyway, my order went through so I have nothing to argue at this point; but, it shouldn't have taken a threat to cancel and a thread here to get it done.

My free trial was purchased by a site sponser here. Not by corporate. The 6mo should be open to all and unless the policy is clearly stated on the description it is. Anyway, my order went through so I have nothing to argue at this point; but, it shouldn't have taken a threat to cancel and a thread here to get it done. It doesn't matter who you got it through, it is a discount extended to you by corporate. The 6mo deal is for people to test the waters and see if it's something they are interested in, not for nickle and dimers to milk the system. Either you save money by buying the oil at a discount after paying the yearly fee, or you don't buy enough and would just assume paying retail. This is Amsoil going above and beyond to give customers great oil at great prices. Your misplaced scrutiny makes no sense at all.

It doesn't matter who you got it through, it is a discount extended to you by corporate. The 6mo deal is for people to test the waters and see if it's something they are interested in, not for nickle and dimers to milk the system. Either you save money by buying the oil at a discount after paying the yearly fee, or you don't buy enough and would just assume paying retail. This is Amsoil going above and beyond to give customers great oil at great prices. Your misplaced scrutiny makes no sense at all. However Amsoil doesn't distribute to Retail customers, it's dealers can in theory but I never see their oil on shelves, they use multilevel marketing so the preferred membership is almost guaranteed to be your best bet. Which forces you into the yearly fee, I disagree with that. I wouldn't be arguing this at all if the web site's description had even a single short statement about the 6mo being for first time customers... there isn't one anywhere on the site at all let alone in the description, so that means it's some hidden policy that they pull out when it suits them. We can agree to disagree on this one. :sissy:

However Amsoil doesn't distribute to Retail customers, it's dealers can in theory but I never see their oil on shelves, they use multilevel marketing so the preferred membership is almost guaranteed to be your best bet. Which forces you into the yearly fee, I disagree with that. I wouldn't be arguing this at all if the web site's description had even a single short statement about the 6mo being for first time customers... there isn't one anywhere on the site at all let alone in the description, so that means it's some hidden policy that they pull out when it suits them. We can agree to disagree on this one. :sissy: So I guess you'd go into an ice cream store, order a free sample, then another, then another. And when they cut you off, starting bitching that the sign simply says "free samples", it says nothing about a limit! :crash

Did someone say free ice cream?

So I guess you'd go into an ice cream store, order a free sample, then another, then another. And when they cut you off, starting bitching that the sign simply says "free samples", it says nothing about a limit! :crash Did I ask for anything free? Cause I remember offering to buy a product and being told I had to buy a more expensive one I didn't need because that was an unwritten policy. :dundun:

Did I ask for anything free? Cause I remember offering to buy a product and being told I had to buy a more expensive one I didn't need because that was an unwritten policy. :dundun: :nopity:

It's just the point of it, go look at the description of the 6mo membership and tell me where it says you must be a new member to buy it? I'm not asking for a giant flashing banner, any statement at all would be appropriate, there is none at all! :no So I placed an order and was told I can't buy their product unless I pay more. :confused: That is bullshit:fact I do not have time during business hours to go pick it up this week, that's why I wanted it shipped. A responsible company does not hide their policies they are very upfront about them to foster trust and make their customers clear about what is expected and allowed. Making it difficult to do business with you is not a good way to keep customers or get much business. And, cheap or not the extra six months is still wasted money if I am absolutely certain I will not use it, which I am. Incidentally I received an e-mail this morning that my order will be shipped as I ordered it with a 6mo membership. :) Looks like we need an * along with the 6 months membership option. I will contact the company and get that changed. You do have a point to some degree. I don't know of any other companies that even give the option of 6 months with their discount memberships. Sorry you had such an ordeal getting your oil at discount. If you would have went through one of our advertsing dealers this may not have happened and if it did they would have gone to bat for you to keep your frustration down. george ADG

It's just the point of it, go look at the description of the 6mo membership and tell me where it says you must be a new member to buy it? I'm not asking for a giant flashing banner, any statement at all would be appropriate, there is none at all! :no So I placed an order and was told I can't buy their product unless I pay more. Evidently, you are asking for a Flashing Banner.. This is and has been on the Corporate site... "Ten dollars gets you a six-month trial Preferred Customer membership for buying AMSOIL products at wholesale prices." That is a copy and paste from the site That is bullshit:fact I do not have time during business hours to go pick it up this week, that's why I wanted it shipped. Then you must pay the freight and it is not $15.00 to ship 3 gallons, it is $10.56 plus .01 cent per qt. energy surcharge charged by the State of Texas. I'd also be willing to bet that the warehouse would change their hours maybe 1 day a week for people just like you, that work during the day, say, maybe Thursdays from NOON- 8:30 PM... UPS sets the rates, not AMSOIL... Sounds like everything you have said is unfounded.... Doc

Looks like we need an * along with the 6 months membership option. I will contact the company and get that changed. You do have a point to some degree. I don't know of any other companies that even give the option of 6 months with their discount memberships. Sorry you had such an ordeal getting your oil at discount. If you would have went through one of our advertsing dealers this may not have happened and if it did they would have gone to bat for you to keep your frustration down. george ADG Thank you for your reply, I appreciate that someone in the company can understand my frustration and would at least suggest the site be more clear. I was obviously pissed when I wrote the thread but being open with a policy like this goes a long way. Sounds like everything you have said is unfounded.... Doc Once again, My order was filled. But since y'all keep bumping the thread rather than letting it die... Just b/c the word trial is there doesn't mean I should assume I can never buy one after being given one years ago, make it clear. Great so since I can't plan on when I'll be home tomorrow (Thursday BTW) it would've been great for me to cross my fingers a week in advance, and my fault for being off 4 dollars :crash Doc, Keep bumping the thread, doesn't hurt me a bit when it shows up in the active topics for everyone to read over and over, great advertising for you to keep berating a customer for your lack of clarity and my frustration.

Just b/c the word trial is there doesn't mean I should assume I can never buy one after being given one years ago, make it clear. Great so since I can't plan on when I'll be home tomorrow (Thursday BTW) it would've been great for me to cross my fingers a week in advance, and my fault for being off 4 dollars. $4.00 is a lot when referring to freight as that was a 40% increase over what it actually was. And, if you can't arrange a time to be at the warehouse during their business hours, you are arguing a mute point about any freight charges. Doc, Keep bumping the thread, doesn't hurt me a bit when it shows up in the active topics for everyone to read over and over, great advertising for you to keep berating a customer for your lack of clarity and my frustration. Doesn't bother me either as other members have commented on how you have no reason to gripe. You do Not have to pay to be a Preferred Customer or Dealer to buy at a discount. Many Dealers will sell to you at Dealer Cost. Many times the problem comes from somebody thinking that they can "Cut out the Middle Man" and go to AMSOIL and buy direct, not realizing that they are Always going through a Dealer no matter what. Doc

You act like just because you got your hopes up, Amsoil is committing a crime. Whether you read a policy on a website or are informed of a policy it's the same damn thing and whining about it just makes you look foolish.

You all need to get a room...

You all need to get a room... We have on per se .... It is this Thread.... Doc .

We have on per se .... It is this Thread.... Doc . :lol:stpd:

Why have it shipped when you can just go pick it up at the distribution center? Or are they not open on Saturdays, or the day you have off.

Why have it shipped when you can just go pick it up at the distribution center? Or are they not open on Saturdays, or the day you have off. I don't get much time off, I'm a full time student and a Project Manager. It took me three days to change the oil :crash... Granted I ****ed the drain plug up and had to get a new one.

I ****ed the drain plug up and had to get a new one. Are you friggin kidding me?!?!?!?! Amsoil didn't tell you not to over tighten the drain bolt??? Bastards! :finger

Are you friggin kidding me?!?!?!?! Amsoil didn't tell you not to over tighten the drain bolt??? Bastards! :finger Dude that's just ignorant, when did I blame that on them? I burnt my hand on the headers and ended up with the socket at an angle to avoid another burn, it ate some of the bolt, simple $4 fix... surprisingly the dealer didn't tell me I needed an $8 drain plug because i was previously a customer. :thumbup

hahaha was a joke

Find a local dealer and you can go pick it up. amsoil is the best oil you can get,go out of your way to get it .

Find a local dealer and you can go pick it up. amsoil is the best oil you can get,go out of your way to get it . Why not just click on our Banner Ad and find a Dealer There? We all offer Specials to Forum Members. A different Dealer should come up each time you refresh the page for about 18 Dealers. Collect the Toll Free Numbers and make some calls on their dime to find a Dealer you like. Sometimes, it pays to do your Homework. The Dealer that may be next door, may not be as good as one across the country. Miracle of Modern Technology. Bob Schultz