pilot powers are garbage...

...compared to my new corsa 3's. If you need to get new tires, give the pirelli diablo corsa III's a try. They are leaps and bounds better than the powers. btw, they were both tested at the track by me. Corsas get hotter faster, and the sides are farrrrr stickier once heated. Stuck me like glue and allowed throttle at full lean and braking into corners.

2ct's or regular powers?

just the regs. stock on the 08.

Try 2ct's. I have also run metzeler m3's, they work very well too. Mine had the regular corsa's stock. Hated em.

...compared to my new corsa 3's. If you need to get new tires, give the pirelli dragon corsa III's a try. They are leaps and bounds better than the powers. btw, they were both tested at the track by me. Corsas get hotter faster, and the sides are farrrrr stickier once heated. Stuck me like glue and allowed throttle at full lean and braking into corners. Are you talking about the diablo corsa III tire? There is no pirelli dragon corsa III. There is a dragon supercorsa pro that came out not too long ago.

i haven't tried the regular corsas, but i'm gonna run these corsa3's for now and next summer i'm gonna switch over to slicks for the track. Not because these tires suck, but because I want to go even faster.

i have dragon supercorsa pros, love them.

Are you talking about the diablo corsa III tire? There is no pirelli dragon corsa III. There is a dragon supercorsa pro that came out not too long ago. you must have misquoted me. :) sorry, coulda sworn it was dragon, but you're right, they're diablo's. :crash

I'm shopping for new tires right now, actually... I've been using powers since 04... Any places online to get particularly good prices on these?

I'm shopping for new tires right now, actually... I've been using powers since 04... Any places online to get particularly good prices on these? i got mine from motonekoparts.com, they gave me a good deal on shipping to alaska, plus their price was pretty low compared to alot of other sites.

The Pilot Powers are dangerous in my opinion... but lots of people seem to like them. When getting them off my bike I commented how bad they are and how many people seem to like them... The guys comment was that most people don't know how to ride and can't tell. :crash Personal preferrence I guess... I'm using BT002s which are really nice! But the Pirellis are the best. :fact

i got mine from motonekoparts.com, they gave me a good deal on shipping to alaska, plus their price was pretty low compared to alot of other sites. hey will you send me some pics of your bike?

2CT's=Pilot Power sides with a harder middle. Same side compound as the Pilot Power. Here's a good tire test. http://www.zinio.com/express2?issue=206338267

I'm running Pilot Powers, and I'll agree that a tire that needs to be replaced at 4k miles is garbage, but I think if you're having problems with the traction of the Pilot Power on the street, you're riding WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard and need to take it to a track.

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Corsa III FTW, I don't think I could ever ride anything else on the street.

Try 2ct's. I have also run metzeler m3's, they work very well too. Mine had the regular corsa's stock. Hated em. I'm running the M3's as well, but haven't really tried anything else. In your opinion how do they stack up compared to the 2cts and diablos?

I hope your not comparring the OEM PP to anything else, the OEM tire is actually a different (harder) compound then the standard PP

I hope your not comparring the OEM PP to anything else, the OEM tire is actually a different (harder) compound then the standard PP Hmm. Is that right? I did not know this.... :crash

...compared to my new corsa 3's. If you need to get new tires, give the pirelli diablo corsa III's a try. They are leaps and bounds better than the powers. btw, they were both tested at the track by me. Corsas get hotter faster, and the sides are farrrrr stickier once heated. Stuck me like glue and allowed throttle at full lean and braking into corners. Michilen is about to release a new tire soon, they have been testing it around here for awhile, I know they have also released a new trackday/race tire a little while back

i run 2ct's on my bike i luv them i ride hard on the street have not tried corsa III's before i will when its time to switch i have nothing bad to say about the pilot powers reg or 2ct they are the sh**

I just wish I could get more then 1,000 miles out of any tire. I don't even have 3,000 miles on my '07 and I am on my third rear tire. Damn nails.

I just wish I could get more then 1,000 miles out of any tire. I don't even have 3,000 miles on my '07 and I am on my third rear tire. Damn nails. Don't feel too bad. I went through 3 PPs in less than two weeks a couple years ago. Damn nails. :rant

I was getting about 5000 miles a rear out of a Power or Power 2CT. I'm still amazed at how long they last for the grip they have. Obvioulsy the Pirellis are stickier, they don't last nearly as long. I'm running the new Bridgestone BT-016R right now. It's a great tire, buy I doubt they will last as long as the Michelins I've run.

I have been using OEM tires on my bikes and replacing them as needed but can you switch a rear to a different type with out changing the front to the same type? I am guessing no but I thought I would ask.

You can switch tires like that, but it's not really reccomended. In a perfect world, you should always try to run the same brand/type of tire front and rear. I used to be a courier for many years, and sometimes, you do what you gotta do to get on the road, and ride your bike accordingly when making such compromises. That philosophy is definitely not advisable for novices.

i've read that its okay to run different compounds as long as the front is stickier than the rear.

I've run both the PP 2CT's and the CorsaIII's and riding all back roads in Germany, I was wearing out the sides of the CorsaIII's in less than 1500 miles. That was all on the street, no track days. I fought with the tire pressures on the street as well...it was hard for me to find the right balance, but once I did I could power out of the corners just after apex without any drama.

i ended up using 25 cold in the rear and 26 cold in the front on the track. once I ran 2 laps they were up to 28.5/29. Ran pretty nice at those pressures. I wouldn't recommend those for the street though because its pretty hard to get them up to temp that fast unless you're riding them hard. Which you shouldn't be riding them like that on the street.

I just wish I could get more then 1,000 miles out of any tire. I don't even have 3,000 miles on my '07 and I am on my third rear tire. Damn nails. i pushed the 2cts as hard as you probably could on the street and got 6000 plus out of them...same as a few other guys i ride with. one of them switched to the pirellis to try them and is showing wear at 2200 miles...didnt have any complaints about them except for their wearing properties

Well compared to the Stock PP's, the corsa III's are way better,..I switched to 190/55 But thats a good point i might have to Buy a set of 2cts to compare. because OEM Rubber is different then Buying the Tires Seperate!

...compared to my new corsa 3's. If you need to get new tires, give the pirelli diablo corsa III's a try. They are leaps and bounds better than the powers. btw, they were both tested at the track by me. Corsas get hotter faster, and the sides are farrrrr stickier once heated. Stuck me like glue and allowed throttle at full lean and braking into corners. Whothe****areyou anyway? "...tested by me"??? If your gonna go ahead and make a claim like that then you should at least include "on the track" in your title. PP's are in fact very good "street" tires and are more than capable of handling anything most riders will throw at them. I've has several sets of these and have never had an issue with them. I did try burning some track time on a set and found them to be adequate track tires if you're not pushing them too much, they get greasy real easy so you can't overdo it. I much prefer to run Dot track tires or full race slicks given the choice but can't fault this tire as a street tire. If Aron213 is correct about OEM tire composition being harder than the aftermarket composition than that may explain some of your heat issues.

If Aron213 is correct about OEM tire composition being harder than the aftermarket composition than that may explain some of your heat issues. That's what I'm wondering. My bike came OEM with Dunlop 207s (hated them), but all the PPs that I bought aftermarket were great. I've had them leaned over grinding footpegs on the street and they stuck fine. :dunno If OEM PP is a different compound, that's a whole other ballgame...

I am running the new diablo rosso's and they are every bit as good on the street as the corsa 3's,they feel pretty good even from cold but heat up very quick.If they last as long as pirelli claim (around 6000 miles on litre bike) then i will stick with these for the forseable future. I have attached a pic of the rear after 1200 miles and it barely looks worn. Doing a trackday on monday so i will see how they work on the track

Whothe****areyou anyway? "...tested by me"??? If your gonna go ahead and make a claim like that then you should at least include "on the track" in your title. i'd think you work for michelin with all that hostility.. yeesh. I tested them at tanacross race track in tanacross, alaska. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOWXVVQFKKk

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i'd think you work for michelin with all that hostility.. yeesh. I tested them at tanacross race track in tanacross, alaska. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOWXVVQFKKk Just calling BS like I see it. You say PP street tires are garbage because you tested them at the track. :confused: Try some track tires on the street and get back to me with your report. My Dunlop NTECs are garbage as well...on the street!

why are my corsa 3's performing so much better on the track then? I'm just comparing apples to apples.

I love tire discussions, it's like comparing condoms. I'll take Josh Hayes using 2 year old takeoffs on an EX500 over any set of new tires and bike anyone here can supply. :fact

i have had a chance to ride on pilots,corsa's and dunlops in my riding the dunlop qualifers were ok but would have bad feed back but slips very little. the corsa's were just shit!! they slip allover don't turn in well and my set pulled right! never will buy again. and the 2ct are the best all around tire for the money for 350 a set ant bad. and i have never had one slip and yes i can ride i dont pussy foot around no chicken strips on my tires! haha

maddox, give the corsa III's a shot next time, in tire shootouts they rated higher than 2ct's.. just don't use the reg corsas.

I love tire discussions, it's like comparing condoms. I'll take Josh Hayes using 2 year old takeoffs on an EX500 over any set of new tires and bike anyone here can supply. :fact You do have a point there, however, when I'm riding to work or hitting the twisties I want something that is going to keep me upright that suits my riding. I'm not really worried about how fast anyone else is, just that I'm having fun. :thumbup

I love tire discussions, it's like comparing condoms. I'll take Josh Hayes using 2 year old takeoffs on an EX500 over any set of new tires and bike anyone here can supply. :fact :yesnod :corn

i'll take rossi on a brand new Vino classic w/stock tires.

I run Diablo Corsa III and love them.

Mmmmmmmm .... tires....

I'll take Spencer on a Vespa over all you fvcks!

Pilot Powers suck. I took them off after one day at the track.

yah, i think everyone that takes them to the track realizes thats not what they're for.

Just calling BS like I see it. You say PP street tires are garbage because you tested them at the track. :confused: Try some track tires on the street and get back to me with your report. My Dunlop NTECs are garbage as well...on the street! this statement is correct. how can people call something garbage when they're testing it out of their design? that's stupid. pp's are street tires, designed and built for the street. so test it on the street. people interested in pp's are generally spending most of their time on the street. test results on the track are useless.

i tried them on the track and liked them very much.

OEM TIRES SUCK, I have a set of OEM diablo corsas that came with my extra set of wheels and I took them off after 4 days on the street. I dont believe that the aftermarket tires are that bad, but the OEM ones suck hard. p.s. I also didnt like the profile of the front either.