?? Anyone tried the Bridgestone BT-016??

07-R1 newbie
08-12-2008, 04:41 PM
I just order a front and rear of the new Bridgestone BT-016. And I was curious if anyone has tried these yet?? I hear they are replacing the BT-014.

Tyrmeltr
08-12-2008, 05:12 PM
I am a pretty happy with them. Steers a bit quicker than the Power 2CT, and a little better over bumps. They wear faster though, and the rear can get a little greasy at the edges when it's hot out.

tnole23
08-12-2008, 09:54 PM
They wear faster though, and the .... that sucks. i was looking at these over the 2ct for my next set. but i need more holdup to wear than i need stickiness.

07-R1 newbie
08-13-2008, 01:49 PM
Thanks for the info Tyr, what kind of mileage have you gotten from them so far??

yankin&bankin
10-02-2008, 11:20 PM
This will be my next set of tires. Our local club is doing a ride out to Middle Tennessee, where there are some really nice roads that are technically varied. You might have one road that has switchbacks, high-speed sweepers, hairpins, decreasing radius corners, etc. I plan to give the new BT-016 a full test. And if they steer quicker than a Pilot Power, as tire melter says above, then I'll be really surprised, as I have yet to find a tire that steers quicker than my 'ole standby, the PP. I love a tire with a triangular profile.

Skeeter
10-03-2008, 06:48 PM
Looking forward to you great feedback.

KLW
10-03-2008, 06:52 PM
I just order a front and rear of the new Bridgestone BT-016. And I was curious if anyone has tried these yet?? I hear they are replacing the BT-014. Bridgestone BT-016, an OEM version of those tires come stock on the 08 ZX10R and are awesome tires. Best OEM's I have ever rode. Highly recommended. I just bought some BST CF rims and got a set of the BT-016 just for those rims. The sidewall/bead area is not near as stiff as say Dunlops, so they will mount on the rims with little effort using my No Mar changer. KLW

zwp
10-04-2008, 08:23 AM
Look forward to your review. I can get a pretty good deal on them and may replace my 2cts with them.

chadder
10-04-2008, 11:16 AM
I picked up a set from tiresunlimited.com last week for $235 shipped! They had a combo sale going but I think they may have pulled it.:dunno

AsianInvasian69
10-07-2008, 11:19 AM
so i didnt really get a clear review im on the 2cts and love them has anyone rode both the tires and can give a little more feedback how are they in the wet? are they stickier then the 2cts? more opinions on tire wear and turn in

yankin&bankin
10-08-2008, 12:15 AM
so i didnt really get a clear review im on the 2cts and love them has anyone rode both the tires and can give a little more feedback how are they in the wet? are they stickier then the 2cts? more opinions on tire wear and turn in I'll be running BT-016s at Deal's Gap this weekend, and in Middle Tennessee the next weekend, so I'll be able to give a review soon.

bobbalu28
10-08-2008, 11:42 PM
had them on for a few months now. they turn a lot quicker than 2ct. grip is pretty much the same to me. but i do notice they are wearing out faster than 2ct.

r1_dav3
10-09-2008, 12:08 AM
i bought a rear BT016 and shredded it at last track day to test them. the rear is very sticky for a street tyre, i rate it as sticky as a pilot race H2. wear rate on the edges is not as good as a proper DOT track tyre, i suffered 70% wear on the edge after a single track day so it wouldnt survive a second. i would normally expect to get two track days out of a pilot race medium on the rear. i never had any problems with greasyness, i had a 5psi difference between cold to hot ie: 33psi cold 38psi hot. in summary imho excellent street tyre, wear rate too high to be economical as a track tyre.

99yzfr1000
10-09-2008, 05:58 AM
bought a set 3 months back, done the trip down south for phillip island, clocked up 3600kms in 10 days , but back tyre is about rooted now, nearly 5500kms s since new though, Im impressed with them, running a 200 on the back. They do get sticky on long trips when warm aswell.

yankin&bankin
10-09-2008, 11:03 AM
i bought a rear BT016 and shredded it at last track day to test them. the rear is very sticky for a street tyre, i rate it as sticky as a pilot race H2. wear rate on the edges is not as good as a proper DOT track tyre, i suffered 70% wear on the edge after a single track day so it wouldnt survive a second. i would normally expect to get two track days out of a pilot race medium on the rear. i never had any problems with greasyness, i had a 5psi difference between cold to hot ie: 33psi cold 38psi hot. in summary imho excellent street tyre, wear rate too high to be economical as a track tyre. Good info. Thanks.

yankin&bankin
10-19-2008, 08:36 PM
Well, after putting almost 700 miles on my new BT-016s in Middle Tennessee, there's not much to say about the tires except that they stick like glue and have very neutral handling characteristics. I didn't notice any negative traits. The roads this weekend were quite dirty, and I had at least 3 or 4 slides. The tires hooked back up almost immediately, and very predictably. I will say that we did not ride any real high-speed roads this weekend, so that kind of evaluation will have to wait for me to hit Push Mountain on my next Arkansas trip (but I am wanting to go hit Suches, N. GA. in the near future, so the tires may get burned up then). Another thing I will say is that they don't turn in as easily as a Pilot Power (but I haven't found a tire yet that turns in as well as the Pilot Power).

yankin&bankin
11-09-2008, 09:54 PM
Well, I've gone full circle. I went from the 2CT to the BT-002RS to the Continental Sport Attack to the BT-016. I've come back to my conclusion that there isn't a tire out there that offers a better compromise for grip, handling and wear for the street than the 2CT. 1500 miles and my new set of 016s is essentially worn out. My next set of tires will be 2CTs.

steveWFL
11-09-2008, 10:02 PM
Looking forward to you great feedback. +1 I can't imagine it handling better than a pilot power 2CT on the road

zwp
11-10-2008, 10:08 AM
Well, I've gone full circle. I went from the 2CT to the BT-002RS to the Continental Sport Attack to the BT-016. I've come back to my conclusion that there isn't a tire out there that offers a better compromise for grip, handling and wear for the street than the 2CT. 1500 miles and my new set of 016s is essentially worn out. My next set of tires will be 2CTs. Have you tried them on the track, yet? If you have a comparison of those on the track I would love to hear it. I need to break down and buy a generator and warmers, but haven't gotten around to it. I just ordered some 002RS's for my next track day. It will likely be cool weather and track temps will be lower. So, I am hoping the 002RS's do the trick. :thumbup

2WEELFERRUM04
11-10-2008, 10:35 AM
i bought a set of BT-002RS just cause they were on sale. i will not put them on as i am currently coming off of Pirelli Diablo Corsa III and went with PP not 2Tc and what a big difference it makes. i can hold lines i can go a lot faster and the confidence level is way higher that it ever was on the corsa III. will never buy those tires again as it does not suit my style of riding. they are good tires and they work well just not my for my style of riding.

yankin&bankin
11-10-2008, 11:14 AM
Have you tried them on the track, yet? If you have a comparison of those on the track I would love to hear it. I need to break down and buy a generator and warmers, but haven't gotten around to it. I just ordered some 002RS's for my next track day. It will likely be cool weather and track temps will be lower. So, I am hoping the 002RS's do the trick. :thumbup Never been on a track. However, I have a friend who actually just used a set down at Talledega yesterday. I will try to get some feedback from him and post up here. I will tell you this: A 56-yr.-old current WERA racer walked up to Rick and introduced himself. First thing he said was, "You gonna run with those tires?" When I do eventually get to the track, it will be with race rubber, just based on advice from others.

Skeeter
11-10-2008, 12:50 PM
Have you tried them on the track, yet? If you have a comparison of those on the track I would love to hear it. I need to break down and buy a generator and warmers, but haven't gotten around to it. I just ordered some 002RS's for my next track day. It will likely be cool weather and track temps will be lower. So, I am hoping the 002RS's do the trick. :thumbup The BT-002RS is awesome on the track. You will love them. No need for tire warmers on them as they are not a full D.O.T. Race Tire. They warm up very quickly on their own. Just give it a few easy laps then go for it. I ran them at JenningsGP in the Winter when it was cold out and had a blast.

zwp
11-10-2008, 04:19 PM
Thanks Skeeter. The local guy at the race shop told me to run the BT003 and I thought about it for a couple of weeks. But I just can' t help but think after all the research I have done that the BT003 won't work as well for me without the warmers. Can't beat the price on the BT002rs either.

Skeeter
11-10-2008, 04:41 PM
Well, keep in mind the BT-003 is a full blown D.O.T Race Tire only meant for track duty. You don't need this tire unless your a racer or track junkie. Yes, it's best to use warmers on these and any race spec tire for best results as they require lots of heat for them to stick and by keeping them warm you are reducing the amount of heat cycles going into them. To many heat cycles and they become harder and harder. Just give the BT-002RS a try sometime. It's a "Hyper Sport" street tire which is excellent on the street and good on the track too. Although, it will wear faster than other street tires due to the softer compound and you don't need tire warmers for it.

zwp
11-10-2008, 05:41 PM
Yup, that's the reason I decided against the BT003. I'll be saving up for the warmers and generator, maybe I'll be ready for the 003 about the time the next generation tire is out!

sricardo2004
11-18-2008, 10:35 PM
is great to hear from yuo guys, about the experience on the tires

sricardo2004
11-18-2008, 11:22 PM
i need a litte help< white tires pilot power or bridgestones BT-016, Thanks for your comments.

steveWFL
11-18-2008, 11:24 PM
can i ask a question at the risk of getting slapped around and maybe the answer is buried in this thread already - is the BT-016 a dual compound tire?

Skeeter
11-19-2008, 04:55 PM
i need a litte help< white tires pilot power or bridgestones BT-016, Thanks for your comments. I've never run the 016's, but the reviews are pretty good. Your talking a more developed multi compound tire vs the regular Pilot Powers. I'd take it over the Pilot Power which I have run. The review have them as a very good aggressive street riding tire and mild track day tire. can i ask a question at the risk of getting slapped around and maybe the answer is buried in this thread already - is the BT-016 a dual compound tire? Five compound. Three compounds in the rear and two in the front.

yankin&bankin
11-24-2008, 07:56 PM
I am to the wear bars on the sides of my front BT-016. The tire has less than 2000 miles on it. About 300 miles ago, I noticed that the bike started feeling like it was going to fall into the corners - it was at this point that I noticed the accelerated wear on the sides of the tire. The area I call the "center of the side" of the front tire is what is wearing out so fast on this tire. In turns where a good bit of lean angle is required, the bike starts to feel like it's going to fall into the turn as the tire transitions over the "ridge" that has been formed by the accelerated wear in the "center of the side" of the tire. Good news is that I was able to rectify the situation a little bit by adding a turn of preload on the fork. But it hasn't cured the feeling of instability that has resulted from the accelerated wear. Although I have indeed noticed this phenomenon on Pilot Powers, it seems like it didn't happen until I was half-way through my second rear on a particular front. (No, I don't think the Bridgestone is that much softer a compound.) But it is obviously softer, because I know I haven't gotten that much faster. Wearing both tires out together could be a good thing for some, but I personally like being able to run 2 rears to every 1 front tire, like I do with the Michelins. This only confirms my feeling that I will return to 2CTs in the near future. However, it looks like I'll be trying a set of Qualifiers next, since I picked up a 190/55-17 Qualifier for $145.00 including tax from Cycle Gear - they had it mis-marked when I was in there today, ha ha! Look for a review in the near future! John

zwp
11-25-2008, 10:21 PM
However, it looks like I'll be trying a set of Qualifiers next, since I picked up a 190/55-17 Qualifier for $145.00 including tax from Cycle Gear - they had it mis-marked when I was in there today, ha ha! Look for a review in the near future! I used to like the Qualifiers until I bought a set of the 2CTs.

yankin&bankin
11-26-2008, 01:48 AM
I used to like the Qualifiers until I bought a set of the 2CTs. I've never run a set. Like most any other tire, I've met folks who hate them, and folks who swear by them. Personally, the last Dunlops I ran was in early 2005 - the D218s that came on my new 05 R1! Yall think the Qualifiers are any better???

Skeeter
11-26-2008, 04:43 PM
I had fun burning up the Qualifiers which came stock on my '06 R6. No complaints from me at all. Did seveal track days and a week of hard riding at Deal's Gap with the same set. By the end of Deal's Gap they were toast.

yankin&bankin
11-27-2008, 07:53 AM
I had fun burning up the Qualifiers which came stock on my '06 R6. No complaints from me at all. Did seveal track days and a week of hard riding at Deal's Gap with the same set. By the end of Deal's Gap they were toast. Sounds like they're good then. Unfortunately, a common thread with the new "hypersport" tires seems to be that they're good for maybe 2 hard days on the track, or a weekend of hard street riding. If the Qualifiers held up to all that, they're good! I've heard the Qualifiers are a little softer compound than the Pilot Powers. You think this is true?

zwp
11-27-2008, 09:32 AM
I think so. I get better mileage out of the PP and PP 2CT than I ever did on the Qualifier. I ran through about 4 sets of the Q's on the street, but never did a track day on them.

Skeeter
11-27-2008, 04:28 PM
Sounds like they're good then. Unfortunately, a common thread with the new "hypersport" tires seems to be that they're good for maybe 2 hard days on the track, or a weekend of hard street riding. If the Qualifiers held up to all that, they're good! I've heard the Qualifiers are a little softer compound than the Pilot Powers. You think this is true? Yeah John, I've ran both the PP's and Qualifiers. IMO the compound on the Q's are softer vs the PP's. I wouldn't call the Q's hyper sport though as they are just one compound front and rear. I know lot's of people are putting down the Q's, but I never had any complaints with them. The wear on the track was great with very good feedback for a street tire. They got up to temp pretty quick and I never had them slide, but I don't push it to the limit on the track either. Just my own personal limits. All I can say is give them a try and see what you think. Look forward to your review. Remember, it's colder outside now, so let them warm up. :thumbup

yankin&bankin
11-27-2008, 08:05 PM
Yeah John, I've ran both the PP's and Qualifiers. IMO the compound on the Q's are softer vs the PP's. I wouldn't call the Q's hyper sport though as they are just one compound front and rear. I know lot's of people are putting down the Q's, but I never had any complaints with them. The wear on the track was great with very good feedback for a street tire. They got up to temp pretty quick and I never had them slide, but I don't push it to the limit on the track either. Just my own personal limits. All I can say is give them a try and see what you think. Look forward to your review. Remember, it's colder outside now, so let them warm up. :thumbup No, no, I know the Qualifier isn't a hypersport. I was saying that the wear you got from your set of Qs can't be expected from one of the new generation of "hypersport" tires like the 002, 016, etc. I'm frustrated right now. I'm sposed to go ride in the Ozarks on Saturday, but my 016 front is worn into a 'V'! You're turning in, and turning in, and turning in, increasing lean angle, then BAM! Almost feels like a lowside as you transition from the worn side to the edge. I tried adding a turn of preload, but it killed my low-speed handling and slowed turn-in. So I tried lowering the front another 5mm (total 10mm), and I don't really like the feel I get.

laubin
11-28-2008, 11:44 AM
change your front tire! going through 2 rears then a front may be more cost effective but that front has run through too many heat cycles and isn't as pliable as before...and the profile isn't the same either..changing your tires in matched sets is the way to go...

Skeeter
11-28-2008, 05:20 PM
No, no, I know the Qualifier isn't a hypersport. I was saying that the wear you got from your set of Qs can't be expected from one of the new generation of "hypersport" tires like the 002, 016, etc. My bad. I misunderstood you. Hope you get to ride Saturday. :thumbup

yankin&bankin
11-28-2008, 10:37 PM
My bad. I misunderstood you. Hope you get to ride Saturday. :thumbup Well, a friend of mine who doesn't get to ride as much as I do happened to have a new Pilot Power front tire sitting in his basement. He let me have it with the understanding that I'll order him a new front when he needs it (which could be a year from now). So I'll find out tomorrow how a front Pilot Power works with a rear 016!

Skeeter
11-29-2008, 12:26 PM
So I'll find out tomorrow how a front Pilot Power works with a rear 016! Hmmm, looking forward to this. :lol

yankin&bankin
11-30-2008, 09:34 PM
Hmmm, looking forward to this. :lol Worked great - as always, I love how the PP turns in! I didn't notice any negative characteristics.

Skeeter
12-01-2008, 09:58 AM
Sounds like a pretty good combo.

madboosties
01-19-2009, 02:28 AM
mismatched tires are a no-no. tires are designed in pairs, each one compliments each other with the design of the tread, carcass, etc etc. don't run hybrid breeds if you plan on going fast.