Soft rear suspension!!!!

I have a 06 r1 with only 3,000 miles on it and I have lowered it with the triangles and the suspension is way soft I am only 165 and can make the bike bottom out by just seating on it and the have everything on full stiff ( helped some but not enough). If I put the stock triangle it stiff as hell. Do I just need to make the bottom dog bone longer and use stock triangles. At stock wheelbase was not a big deal put now that I extended it it drags the exhuast and plastic when I leave hard.

You need to increase the preload in the spring by adjusting the collar on the bottom of the spring seat. If that isn't enough, you might wanna buy a stiffer spring.

You need to increase the preload in the spring by adjusting the collar on the bottom of the spring seat. If that isn't enough, you might wanna buy a stiffer spring. Its already on full stiff.

i dont think all of it can be.. or u have problem. ur not heavy enuff once u put preload on full tilt to drag stuff. did you use spanner wrench to adjust preload on springs. either that or u have something way wrong in shock and settings. i can add couple of clicks or preload to spring and 220 lb guy cant move it at all sitting on it.

what do you mean by "bottom out" ? you're bottoming out the suspension? or you're hitting the ground with body work/exhaust?

i think he is hitting bodywork.. but i dont know if he has giving it all preload, or just turned dampening and rebound adjusters and not preload on spring.. if so, spring is bad or something wrong in shop.. best bet is to have it sent off and re sprung for ur weight and re-valved for dragracing.

1long i know what ur saying but i feel him cause i am having the same problem right now ....the dampering are all the way hard just turned back one click and i just gave it all except one click on the preload....so its does something to the geometry of it when u lower with the triangles as opposed to the dogbone... but no worries i have already bought a spare shock from my peeps here on the forum and i am sending mine out to litz racing in the very near future cause i am 205-210lbs so if he is having trouble at 165 then u can imagnine what i am going through ....

no doubt bro.. i drag my lower fairing as well, with 2 clicks on preload on spring and it had small hole in bottom now... and im 130 lbs...so at ur weight i can see problem.. stock shock is really sprung for like 170-180 rider...but then u stretch bike out and that extra leverage on shock makes it like 120 lb rate. whoever u send it to, make sure u tell them not only ur weight, but how long ur bike is as well so they can get right spring for it. u may need something like 250 lb or higher spring rate depending on ur length

got you man... but litz racing is very good with the shock and suspension in general...but ill make sure i give them that info when i send my shock off...

Its already on full stiff. When you say full stiff, are you talking about compression damping or spring preload? Also, is that the bike in your avatar? That's a long swingarm. Between that and the links stock spring probably isn't close for your weight. I would add preload to the point of about 1 or 2 clicks out from full stiff, increase the spring preload and try it again. This way if you do have to send the shock off, you have notes on what needs to be changed.

I have the spring as tight as it goes and set to all the way to hard I am with blakjongotti I thank the use of lower triangle throw the geometry off because even with the extensions on it if I put the stock ones back on it is stiff as hell. I guess I will try putting stock ones on and build a dogbone.

I have the spring as tight as it goes and set to all the way to hard I am with blakjongotti I thank the use of lower triangle throw the geometry off because even with the extensions on it if I put the stock ones back on it is stiff as hell. I guess I will try putting stock ones on and build a dogbone. I don't know if that is going to help you man. Laws of leverage. If you are on the highest spring setting and set tight on compression, you are overcoming all that with leverage. I'd check with 1longr1, but I think you need a spring.

yea.. either go with different link with stock triangles or get stiffer spring.

Hey question o6r1man: When you are on the bike, is the swingarm pivot even with or below the axle, or above? I was reading about squat and anti squat the other day, and I think that may be what we are running into. If you can look at that and let me know I can see what the book says.

Hey question o6r1man: When you are on the bike, is the swingarm pivot even with or below the axle, or above? I was reading about squat and anti squat the other day, and I think that may be what we are running into. If you can look at that and let me know I can see what the book says. Will do and get back to you.

im 185 and use the triangles on the 2nd from the last hole. the only thing that rubs is my hugger on my rear pegs just a bit when it squats, spring is on min preload, and lightest dampening

just lowered and stretched mine and i am 215lbs didnt touch the spring at all it doesnt bottom out and the ride is great i can still take corners and feel comfortable doing it mine is a 07 and i only lowered it 2" in the rear and stretched 6"