OIL What is the best way to check its condition??

R1-Mini-Matt
10-23-2008, 01:32 PM
Hey guys Im using Super comp 4 & iv just done a filter & oil change after 400 miles because the engine has sat for a while from when i dropped my bike! & a new clutch with barnett spring convertion (anodized etc) So how do i check the oil?? Were can i send it off for it to be looked at It seems to be a little bit gunky?? any help would be great!

Jarrett H
10-23-2008, 06:41 PM
There is an AMSOil guy on here that will send you a kit to have your oil analyzed. I can't remember his name though. Am I missing something? Why not just change the oil? You are going to spend money to have it tested when you can just put fresh oil in it. People typically test their oil when they suspect a problem with their bike. When the cost has nothing to do with what they are concerned about.

R1-Mini-Matt
10-24-2008, 01:41 AM
There is an AMSOil guy on here that will send you a kit to have your oil analyzed. I can't remember his name though. Am I missing something? Why not just change the oil? You are going to spend money to have it tested when you can just put fresh oil in it. People typically test their oil when they suspect a problem with their bike. When the cost has nothing to do with what they are concerned about. I have dropped the oil! but I'm just concerned that something might be wrong cheers anyway!

yankin&bankin
10-24-2008, 01:38 PM
Most people agree that analysis for the oil of a crotch rocket engine whose life span will probably be measured at under 30,000 miles (most crotch rockets are crashed or the engines are blown up before the 30,000-mile mark) is overkill. However, it's fun to see a gas chromatograph analysis of what your engine oil is up to in there, and I've done it a couple of times. This is the company I used: Blackstone Labs (http://www.blackstone-labs.com/)

R1-Mini-Matt
10-24-2008, 01:56 PM
Most people agree that analysis for the oil of a crotch rocket engine whose life span will probably be measured at under 30,000 miles (most crotch rockets are crashed or the engines are blown up before the 30,000-mile mark) is overkill. However, it's fun to see a gas chromatograph analysis of what your engine oil is up to in there, and I've done it a couple of times. This is the company I used: Blackstone Labs (http://www.blackstone-labs.com/) Nice 1 fella! I aint blown it up yet but i have crashed it! well some1 pulled out on me! thanks again!

s.ga.rider
10-25-2008, 06:27 PM
I agree with the crashing part but not so sure about blowing them up. If you are intereted in doing an oil sample you must take good care of your bike. I have used this company for past samples. http://www.blackstone-labs.com/motorcycle.html and you can check this site for others reports http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

R1-Mini-Matt
10-26-2008, 05:37 AM
I agree with the crashing part but not so sure about blowing them up. If you are intereted in doing an oil sample you must take good care of your bike. I have used this company for past samples. http://www.blackstone-labs.com/motorcycle.html and you can check this site for others reports http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/ ERMMM not much use that was it rely! :dundun:

299
11-14-2008, 10:27 PM
Most people agree that analysis for the oil of a crotch rocket engine whose life span will probably be measured at under 30,000 miles (most crotch rockets are crashed or the engines are blown up before the 30,000-mile mark) is overkill. However, it's fun to see a gas chromatograph analysis of what your engine oil is up to in there, and I've done it a couple of times. This is the company I used: Blackstone Labs (http://www.blackstone-labs.com/) Blown up engines???meaning Broken cramshafts?:dundun:

yankin&bankin
11-14-2008, 11:06 PM
Blown up engines???meaning Broken cramshafts?:dundun: Well, to use a quote from Skeeter that I found very amusing, most of our sportbike guys around here are your "bling-bling, Bike Nite, Chrome, Extended Swingarm, LED Lites, Lowered" Busas. For some reason, most of these guys haven't ever heard of maintenance. Drivechains breaking and turning into whipsaws that slice through engine cases is a frequent occurence here, as is clutches burning up from multiple drag races without allowing the engine to cool and oil changes that are few and far-between. I read a story posted here one time by 1longR1: A guy bought a brand-new Hayabusa. They got a call at the dealership. Evidently this new Busa was a POS. Not even 500 miles on it, and it was running like crap. Driver sent with a truck from the dealer to pick the POS Busa up finds evidence on the street in front of the house of multiple burnouts. Apparently the guy who bought the Busa had some genius friends who told him that the tire on the new bike needed to be "burned out." The friend was happy to take care of this break-in procedure for the owner of the new Busa. Result: Fragged clutch with pieces of clutch spread throughout the motor. Motor had to be completely rebuilt.

Oil Doc
11-20-2008, 01:56 PM
Oil Analysis is the only way to check the condition of oil. I use Oil Analyzers Inc. as they are ISO Accredited, which basically tells you that they are The Best of The Best. Results are duplicatable.. Some people think it is not worth the money to have oil analyzed. I think of it as Cheap Insurance. My bike had a K&N air filter installed at the Dealer as part of an upgrade I had done. I did an analysis on it at 2 times the recommended drain interval and the Analysis came back with High Silica (Dirt) and Elevated wear metals. The K&N was removed and the next Analysis came out fine. If I would not have done the Analysis, I would have slowly been killing my engine due to sanding (Dirt ingestion). A kit runs $20.55 postage paid both ways for Forum Members... Retail on that kit is $28.20 ...... Let's see.. $5000.00 for a new engine vs: $23.00 once or twice a year for a little added maintenance.. So, in a hundred years of Analysis, I still wouldn't have spent as much as the engine costs.. And I am pretty sure I will be quite dead by then.. Doc

R1-Mini-Matt
11-20-2008, 03:05 PM
Oil Analysis is the only way to check the condition of oil. I use Oil Analyzers Inc. as they are ISO Accredited, which basically tells you that they are The Best of The Best. Results are duplicatable.. Some people think it is not worth the money to have oil analyzed. I think of it as Cheap Insurance. My bike had a K&N air filter installed at the Dealer as part of an upgrade I had done. I did an analysis on it at 2 times the recommended drain interval and the Analysis came back with High Silica (Dirt) and Elevated wear metals. The K&N was removed and the next Analysis came out fine. If I would not have done the Analysis, I would have slowly been killing my engine due to sanding (Dirt ingestion). A kit runs $20.55 postage paid both ways for Forum Members... Retail on that kit is $28.20 ...... Let's see.. $5000.00 for a new engine vs: $23.00 once or twice a year for a little added maintenance.. So, in a hundred years of Analysis, I still wouldn't have spent as much as the engine costs.. And I am pretty sure I will be quite dead by then.. Doc AWESOME REPLY!!! thanks alot very informative.