arpus19 03-19-2009, 10:36 PM Has anyone figured out how to default the bike into A mode instead of STD. Just getting tired of having to remember to hit the switch, especially during a track day. Nothing like going out on the track and pulling out of that first tight corner as a reminder that I forgot to change the mode.
Thnks in advnc
Deegan 03-21-2009, 04:45 AM Good question, I'd like to know too.
idroppedit 03-21-2009, 06:24 AM Is it really that hard to push a button a few times? :)
arpus19 03-21-2009, 08:30 AM your right, it's not hard to push the button. It would just be nice not to have to deal with it when at a track day. STD mode isn't that much of an issue until your in a really low speed, tight corner. Everywhere else on the track your above the RPM range of the STD modes slower opening butterflies.
02R1guy 03-21-2009, 08:38 AM If the power difference is THAT noticeable....I'd make it routine to push the mode button after pushing the start button each time.
If there is a way to keep it in A mode it would be easier :lol
YEC ecu. Although it has its drawbacks for the street. Check the 09 Motor thread. Diel11 has summed it up pretty well.
02R1guy 03-22-2009, 07:27 PM YEC ecu. Although it has its drawbacks for the street. Check the 09 Motor thread. Diel11 has summed it up pretty well.
Drawbacks like no Speedo :crash
anton73 04-06-2009, 05:25 AM Is it really that hard to push a button a few times? :)
YES :hammer:
triplex76 04-13-2009, 05:49 AM you should be able to do that just by entering in diag mode, going to code 63 then changing to next one and at the same time keeping pressed both select and reset for 20 second, after that every single push on the button will change the default start map.
"should" cause i just don't know if us bikes are able to enter in diag mode without linking some cable togheter cause that was the case on the older bikes, on our bikes (italian)for example, we already got 2 maps on 07-08 m.y. cause they were sold in different country such france, and there they can only ride bikes limited to 100hp, so yamaha intentionally add this trick in the way every dealer could switch the power depending on location and intresting enough we can do that (change start mode) and more (100 hp output) also on the 09 m.y. this way...so at the end we got 3 mode for full power and 3 mode for 100hp power... that's a lot of play!
pressing select repeatly you got :
a/b/standard mode (oil light on= full power)
a/b/standard mode (oil light blinking= 100 hp)
just check it.that's all!
arpus19 04-13-2009, 07:39 AM Thanx, i'll give it a try and let you know what happens. I can get to Diag mode with no problems, I only have to unplug the fuel pump harness.
triplex76 04-13-2009, 02:40 PM oh sorry!i just made a mistake,it's not the oil light that lights up but the "engine's check" one. the rest of how to is correct;just written a tutorial for an italian's forum and checked it on my bike step by step just as reminder on how to do that.let me know if it works.
traeday3 04-14-2009, 07:21 PM Didn't work for me
triplex76, do you have a link to the italian forum's tutorial?
triplex76 05-05-2009, 07:05 AM i did it, but i can't find the thread anymore, it was on this site:
http://www.motoclub-tingavert.it/
in the r1's forum section
search for :"r1 2007 doppia mappatura"
the how to is the same for r1 09!
triplex76 05-05-2009, 07:07 AM here it is :
http://www.motoclub-tingavert.it/p4112543s.html#4112543
kozumasbullitt 05-05-2009, 12:07 PM so i tried this and it works on the us model, does anyone think it switches between euro and us spec for us?
yammyduc 05-05-2009, 01:52 PM How do you enter diagnostic mode? Heck i'm thinking of dynoing my bike in the near future. I'd give it a try just for kicks.
Maybe we could do a step by step instructions on how to enter diagnostic mode. I read above but it's in italian i think.
kozumasbullitt 05-05-2009, 02:10 PM How do you enter diagnostic mode? Heck i'm thinking of dynoing my bike in the near future. I'd give it a try just for kicks.
Maybe we could do a step by step instructions on how to enter diagnostic mode. I read above but it's in italian i think.
turn the bike off
hold the reset and select buttons
while holding the buttons still, turn key to on
keep holding the buttons and diag appears
let go of the buttons for a second and repress them down for about 10 seconds and then the screen will change
scroll through pressing select for forward and reset for reverse
when you get to 70 (after 63 or just press reset once to scroll back) depress the other button so both are down again, it is kind of tricky because you can't let go of whatever button you are using to scroll.
it will take about 30 seconds and the oil light will display and you can scroll from solid to blinking (they are 2 different ecu modes)
diel11 05-05-2009, 03:00 PM Man, it would be hilarious if this is all you have to do. I was not aware of this at all so I hope it works. I didn't get a chance to go to the dyno this morning as my little boy is sick. But I should be able to go again by Thursday, will try this also.
devel 05-05-2009, 03:33 PM Very, very interesting! What else can we alter in diag mode?
kozumasbullitt 05-05-2009, 03:53 PM well the weather is not looking to good here in california so anyone with some sunlight can you try this? it is very simple and can be reversed.
kozumasbullitt 05-05-2009, 03:57 PM Man, it would be hilarious if this is all you have to do. I was not aware of this at all so I hope it works. I didn't get a chance to go to the dyno this morning as my little boy is sick. But I should be able to go again by Thursday, will try this also.
man and it would be funny because everyone always makes fun of pro-racer mode :)
yammyduc 05-05-2009, 07:13 PM turn the bike off
hold the reset and select buttons
while holding the buttons still, turn key to on
keep holding the buttons and diag appears
let go of the buttons for a second and repress them down for about 10 seconds and then the screen will change
scroll through pressing select for forward and reset for reverse
when you get to 70 (after 63 or just press reset once to scroll back) depress the other button so both are down again, it is kind of tricky because you can't let go of whatever button you are using to scroll.
it will take about 30 seconds and the oil light will display and you can scroll from solid to blinking (they are 2 different ecu modes)
Thanks for the directions. just to be clear we want to be on code 63? Also once we have chosen the light to solid/blinking how do you accept the change? How do you exit out of diagnostic setup? turn off key?
What was the current ecu setting (blinking/solid)? It worries me there is only two settings. You'd think there should be 3 settings. 100hp france/usa/and euro is what i was thinking. Anyway, it will be interesting if this in fact changes anything.
donno
kozumasbullitt 05-05-2009, 09:38 PM Thanks for the directions. just to be clear we want to be on code 63? Also once we have chosen the light to solid/blinking how do you accept the change? How do you exit out of diagnostic setup? turn off key?
What was the current ecu setting (blinking/solid)? It worries me there is only two settings. You'd think there should be 3 settings. 100hp france/usa/and euro is what i was thinking. Anyway, it will be interesting if this in fact changes anything.
donno
it is option 70 that the change is done. you want to scroll past 63 but once you are on 63 press and hold select and immediatly press and hold reset at the same time. it will take about 30 seconds or so for the check engine light to display and by default we are solid. the euro is solid for full power and blinking for 100hp restricted but for the us model it may be solid for us spec and blinking for unrestricted. to exit diag mode just turn the key off. i know this is like a snowballs chance in hell but you never know.
yamablaster024 05-06-2009, 08:14 AM Just went and tried this. Hard to be sure but seat of the pants the bike does feel faster in fact. I am on Blinking mode.
kozumasbullitt 05-06-2009, 11:10 AM Just went and tried this. Hard to be sure but seat of the pants the bike does feel faster in fact. I am on Blinking mode.
so if this is the case we need someone on the dyno. my concern was the blinking mode may be the restricted 100hp for us as well (the euro model does this for france) but if the seat of the pants feels faster or the same then we may be on to something. the thing is after 12k rpm does the throttle "pull" back or does it still pull hard?
yammyduc 05-06-2009, 11:34 AM Totally agree. The only real way to tell will be someone jumping on a dyno.
Speaking of, is there any way to measure tps on a dyno with a stock bike? (no power commander).
yamablaster024 05-06-2009, 11:49 AM Well, i ride this bike everyday and yea it might be just breaking in more but i usually get on it on the backroad behind my college in first gear and maybe pop the wheel up a little, well today I did that and did a near 12 o clock almost instantly and had to slam the rear brake and bring it back down. I was kind of surprised but I was told as the bike breaks ini will get faster. The bike has 900 miles now. And I love it hah!
Just to re-cap, i changed setting 70 to blinking check engine light then shut it off. re-started and thats it
kozumasbullitt 05-06-2009, 12:42 PM Well, i ride this bike everyday and yea it might be just breaking in more but i usually get on it on the backroad behind my college in first gear and maybe pop the wheel up a little, well today I did that and did a near 12 o clock almost instantly and had to slam the rear brake and bring it back down. I was kind of surprised but I was told as the bike breaks ini will get faster. The bike has 900 miles now. And I love it hah!
Just to re-cap, i changed setting 70 to blinking check engine light then shut it off. re-started and thats it
sounds good, we just need someone with a pcv and a dyno to verify what it does.
ali mansfield 05-06-2009, 01:56 PM so i guess im being dumb but are you guys saying that by following these instructions i can set the bike to start in a mode ? i have a uk bike full power
kozumasbullitt 05-06-2009, 09:22 PM so i guess im being dumb but are you guys saying that by following these instructions i can set the bike to start in a mode ? i have a uk bike full power
no you can't. this came from trying to start the bike in a-mode and evolved to a possible un-restriction.
here it is :
http://www.motoclub-tingavert.it/p4112543s.html#4112543
Thank you very much!
Unfortunately it looks like the Norwegian model need to cut or 'ground' a wire to go from 106hp to full power. The colours on the wires are not the same for 09 as for 07/08. Do you have a description on how to do this on the 09?
triplex76 05-07-2009, 02:48 AM nope,
you need to wait i'm starting right in these days to study how the ecu works togheter with the speedo.
some little reverse... i'll post it if i found the fix
chaparral 05-07-2009, 06:03 AM 100hp & 150hp modes being selected on an FZ1 http://s259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/DenArnold/?action=view¤t=001.flv
strat1701 05-07-2009, 07:10 AM turn the bike off
hold the reset and select buttons
while holding the buttons still, turn key to on
keep holding the buttons and diag appears
let go of the buttons for a second and repress them down for about 10 seconds and then the screen will change
scroll through pressing select for forward and reset for reverse
when you get to 70 (after 63 or just press reset once to scroll back) depress the other button so both are down again, it is kind of tricky because you can't let go of whatever button you are using to scroll.
it will take about 30 seconds and the oil light will display and you can scroll from solid to blinking (they are 2 different ecu modes)
The manual has you disconnecting wire harness to fuel pump and switching main engine run switch to off and run. Do you have to do those steps in what you describe?
kozumasbullitt 05-07-2009, 10:21 AM The manual has you disconnecting wire harness to fuel pump and switching main engine run switch to off and run. Do you have to do those steps in what you describe?
no, just do my steps.
diel11 05-07-2009, 12:04 PM Well guys, sorry to say that it does not de-restrict anything. The throttle still bogs at 5k and closes to 81.5% at 12k. Did 7 runs back to back with no difference at all.
kozumasbullitt 05-07-2009, 12:35 PM Well guys, sorry to say that it does not de-restrict anything. The throttle still bogs at 5k and closes to 81.5% at 12k. Did 7 runs back to back with no difference at all.
well it was worth a shot:flush:
Jengel451 05-07-2009, 01:26 PM maybe it's just time to mechanically connect to the twist grip :-)
mattballs21 05-16-2009, 11:38 AM damn that sucks.. I was just about to try it out, oh well, i guess everyone is just going to have to buy an ecu, :(
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