09 loud clicking at first start..

did anyone find a fix for the clackitty clack for the 09 at start up?? it's bugging the sh*t out of me,, I mean it goes away within a second, but embarrasing when around other folks

is it coming from under the seat? if so its the starter relay...mine use to click when battery was low

I have 284 hard driven miles on mine, and mine doesn't do it. How many miles do you have on yours? How did you break it in? (no I am not asking 'how' or 'what's the best way to break it in').

is it coming from under the seat? if so its the starter relay...mine use to click when battery was low Nope not under the seat,, from what I've read here, seems like the cam chain tensioner,, just wondering if anyone found a solution or is yamaha going to do some free surgery for us I have 284 hard driven miles on mine, and mine doesn't do it. How many miles do you have on yours? How did you break it in? (no I am not asking 'how' or 'what's the best way to break it in'). 635 on the clock,, broke it in the "not so easy way", somewhat of a compromise between the manual method and dyno method

Got one here in the shop I work in and looks like to be the hydraulic can chain tensioner to be the fault

Got one here in the shop I work in and looks like to be the hydraulic can chain tensioner to be the fault Is yamaha going to do anything about it? do you know if alot are complaining about this noise

I am replacing the cam chain tensioner regardless, I have no idea how many are complaining yet, here in NZ we only got a few on the first shipment, the rest are not due till late june

Thanks, fripples... anyone else experiencing this noise,, rode last night now i noticed the noise more, just doesn't happen at cold start anymore, It's always there, just not as loud as start up,, definately sounds like something is slapping around in there... 12 efen K on this thing hope this is it..

I have the same exact sound coming from my engine area. i thought i we normal.

I've got 1,400 miles on mine. the sound is loudest at first start up, like after the bike has been sitting for a while.

Same here, I changed the oil after a track day and noise is still there. Mainly at startup, funny thing tho NOT every time. Most times is makes the noise like there's no oil there, but sometimes it's fine. Even after a warm start, say 30 mins cooldown, and it still does it.

anyone bring it in to get an opinion?? ( I mean they'll just lie to us anyway) I also changed the oil recently, figured maybe it didn't like the motul that i put in, so I swapped it with yamalube,and it did quiet it down a bit, and shorten the clack on cold start up,, but in the end it still does it, the yami lube is stll fresh, and the clack started when I had 200 miles on the motul,, we'll see what happens when the yamalube gets more miles on it... do you guys also notice it on decel,, rode with no earplugs the other day and noticed it,,although not as loud, but it's audible enough to piss me off, sounds like a slack/sloppy chain... any of you guys in the NY metro area?? penn,jersy,conn...would be great to take notes jst noticed you guys joined in march and april, I'm assuming you got your bikes around then...maybe we got a bad batch of tensioners or something, guys that got their bikes earlier in the year doesn't seem to have this complaint. so wondering if we are close to each others build # (just a thought) I think mine is in the 2000's lot ?? I'll look and post it up

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curious,, what weight oil is everyone using ?

15-50 synthetic here

I crossed 400 miles on mine, having dumped out the stock oil at 25miles and replacing it with Yamalube 10W40. Still no issues. This past outing I ran it harder than I have before in the upper gears (finally out on open country roads as opposed to looping the feeder roads of freeways). The oil is still mostly dark amber, not black like the stock oil was when I dumped that out. I dunno, maybe there is something to keeping the stock break in oil in longer that it does something? Are those who are having these loud noises ones who kept in the break in oil longer? I have no idea about the weight of the break in oil, my guess would be it would be thicker but I dunno.

I put a heavier weight oil in mine (20w50 synthetic) and it cleared right up. I've also got a bit of advice about the do's and do nots on the manual cam chain tensioner installation and adjustment.

I put a heavier weight oil in mine (20w50 synthetic) and it cleared right up. I've also got a bit of advice about the do's and do nots on the manual cam chain tensioner installation and adjustment. You had the clackity clack at cold start, prior to putting in the 20-50

You had the clackity clack at cold start, prior to putting in the 20-50 Not so much on cold starts as hot. It's not making any strange noises now that I put the heavier oil in it. I also removed the CCT to install a manual and goofed up a little (another story) I took the oem CCT apart then reassembled it and installed it back on the engine and as far as I can tell it sounds a lot smoother. Maybe gunked up from break in bits or something.:dunno

I crossed 400 miles on mine, having dumped out the stock oil at 25miles and replacing it with Yamalube 10W40. Still no issues. This past outing I ran it harder than I have before in the upper gears (finally out on open country roads as opposed to looping the feeder roads of freeways). The oil is still mostly dark amber, not black like the stock oil was when I dumped that out. I dunno, maybe there is something to keeping the stock break in oil in longer that it does something? Are those who are having these loud noises ones who kept in the break in oil longer? I have no idea about the weight of the break in oil, my guess would be it would be thicker but I dunno. I dumped the break in oil (and filter) somewhere between 200-250 miles I put motul 10-40 in and when I hit 400 miles (give or take) that's when the "clack" started,, so dumped the motul at around 550 miles for yamalube 10-40(and another new filter)...... It's actually a little better,, the "clack" is still there, but it does go away faster at cold start up,, but i still hear a sloppy chain on decel.. Still gonna bring her in, just can't get the time right now

nevermind, doesn't matter what oil you use...IT STILL DOES IT!! just went to start her up after 2 days of sitting.... alls the same my 08 blade is whisper quiet compared to the R1... hear nothing but exhaust note on the blade

Not so much on cold starts as hot. It's not making any strange noises now that I put the heavier oil in it. I also removed the CCT to install a manual and goofed up a little (another story) I took the oem CCT apart then reassembled it and installed it back on the engine and as far as I can tell it sounds a lot smoother. Maybe gunked up from break in bits or something.:dunno That's what happened on my 08 at around 20,000 miles - Started doing the clacking noise on hot start-ups. Lasted about 3-4 seconds then went away. I know some people start hearing the tensioner backing out (causing the clacking) on decel (usually at high RPM), but this didn't happen in my case - it was only on hot start-up. Very dangerous if the tensioner starts backing out at high RPM - we all know this can cause the engine to momentarily go out of time, with potentially disastrous consequences! Our theory on why it made the noise only on hot start-up is that the oil was thinner, and somehow hindered the buildup of oil pressure in the stock hydraulic tensioner for a few seconds. Problem solved with the APE manual timing chain tensioner.

HERE WE GO..................... I called the dealer yesterday to let them know that i have a complaint and would like to bring in the bike, so they asked what's the issue,, and I explained..blah blah blah anyway was told they are going to call yamaha first to see if there's a known issue,, got the call back today and yamaha said that there is no known complaint of that nature, but are curious to know about it.. guess folks that are experiencing this are not complaining about it

mine is a little loud at start up as well, it just started to do that a few days ago and i am at about 400 miles.

mine is a little loud at start up as well, it just started to do that a few days ago and i am at about 400 miles. That's about when mine started. sounds like a quick shake of a spray paint can,, right? or is yours a different sound just when i start liking the bike (hated it at first) this crap shows up really hope it's nothing, just a bit worried that yamaha claims they are not aware of it

Just started noticing it on mine. I have about 850 miles on it. Only hear it when it is in gear. As soon as I pull the clutch it goes away. Hope it is nothing.

The bike is at the dealer,, according to them it appears normal, and didn't hear anything out of the norm,, dropped the bike off yesterday afternoon, last words was "I'll call you in the morning after i start her up and let you know",, guess he meant morning in europe,, cause 4:30 rolls around and still no call, so I decide to call, tells me he didn't get to it all day, tells me he just got to it about a half an hour ago, and didn't hear anything or according to him "could have missed it" and sarted it a 100 times, and feels that it's normal.. I don't even think it went that far.... so they didn't do dick... except waste my ****in time.. now I have to take more time from work to leave early to pick up the bike on monday WTF now this could have been avoided only if he did what he was supposed to do,, I mean come on.. what's it take to push a ****in button.... this is what pisses me off,, Now that they're diagnosis is normal, and found nothing or even hear a strange noise. I want this on paper.. cause if this was normal I'm sure the entire 09 R1 community would of chimed in on this to say we all have that noise,,ride more worry less...and I have this same concern on other discussions.. and when i pick up my bike on monday it better be just the way i dropped it off CLEAN AND NOT ONE ****IN SCRATCH ON IT or else i will blow up and this time I don't care what the doc says **** anger management sorry had to vent.... a little

well i was starting to have the same problem... same noise and stuff.. weird clutch noise sometimes to when i would take off.. and then i had a low side at the track.. replaced everything i had to do.. when i started it up.. i heard a stronger clacking noise. took it in and they blew it up!. apparantly my cam chain tensioner completely shattered.. timing was off.. and shattered an intake valve.. warranty covered it.. whole new top end.. been in the shop almost 4 weeks now ..expecting to pick it up this week

well i was starting to have the same problem... same noise and stuff.. weird clutch noise sometimes to when i would take off.. and then i had a low side at the track.. replaced everything i had to do.. when i started it up.. i heard a stronger clacking noise. took it in and they blew it up!. apparantly my cam chain tensioner completely shattered.. timing was off.. and shattered an intake valve.. warranty covered it.. whole new top end.. been in the shop almost 4 weeks now ..expecting to pick it up this week Give us a full report when you pick her up,, damn 4 weeks ?

Just started noticing it on mine. I have about 850 miles on it. Only hear it when it is in gear. As soon as I pull the clutch it goes away. Hope it is nothing. Mine is the opposite,, pull in the clutch and it makes noise like a dry clutch... ratteling?? dealer also said that it's normal??

Well, you've succeeded in alarming me. Mine makes that rapid "rattle can" noise at startup occasionally. I thought it sounded a bit like a cam chain. I guess she's going back in.

Give us a full report when you pick her up,, damn 4 weeks ? ya man 4 weeks tomorrow!!!! slow a$$ dealer! they told me should b ready tomorrow.. will update for sure!

"DEALER UPDATE" forrest G finally heard the rattle-can at startup, again a phone call to me was promised for this Am, never happened, was about to leave work to retreive the bike, something told me better call before I go,, good thing I did, now they heard the noise,, of course you heard the noise dumb ass because you finally started the fu**in thing.... anyway they think it's the cam chain tensioner or something to do with the chain itself,, they're going to call yamaha tomorrow to explain the noise in better detail (thought you called yamaha the other day forrest) I'll have more tomorrow, looks like they want to change the tensioner and see from there.... I hope this is not going to be a 4 week thing, like SoCal

"DEALER UPDATE" I'll have more tomorrow, looks like they want to change the tensioner and see from there.... I hope this is not going to be a 4 week thing, like SoCal i would not wish that upon anyone!! crossing my fingers!! for tomorrow!!! mhh finally yamaha will notice this crap!! i see a possible recall.....

i would not wish that upon anyone!! crossing my fingers!! for tomorrow!!! mhh finally yamaha will notice this crap!! i see a possible recall..... Yeah, check page 1 post #5  from fripples,,, he changed out a tensioner on an 09, haven't heard from him, so I'm assuming all is well with that bike he worked on.. dealer supposed to call me around noon....anyone wanna bet that I'll never get the call at noon,, I'll bet a months pay, that they don't and I'll end up calling them, and get some BS story,, so for now I'll go wrestle with bass and blues in the surf

Yeah, check page 1 post #5  from fripples,,, he changed out a tensioner on an 09, haven't heard from him, so I'm assuming all is well with that bike he worked on.. dealer supposed to call me around noon....anyone wanna bet that I'll never get the call at noon,, I'll bet a months pay, that they don't and I'll end up calling them, and get some BS story,, so for now I'll go wrestle with bass and blues in the surf well ya they showed me the tensioner it was completely shattered in pieces... The dealer keeps telling me they will call me and never do..ive been calling daily.. for the past week..and keep telling me. "it will be done tomorrow"..well the first tomorrow was last week saturday wasn't done closed sunday , monday...tuesday they didnt finish it, wednesday the only tech allowed to touch my bike didnt go in..thursday he didnt go in.. so it would b finish friday.. they didn't finish friday..they would finish by 2pm saturday..5pm they didn't finish.. closed sunday monday..will b done tuesday(today) so f***!!!! they are lagging.. and pissing me off..irritating... but new top end fixed under warranty.. so that keeps me calm!!!!:rant:flush::argue:ugh:chair::hammer::confused::confused::confused:

mine makes the same rattle can noise at start up for a few seconds.

well ya they showed me the tensioner it was completely shattered in pieces... The dealer keeps telling me they will call me and never do..ive been calling daily.. for the past week..and keep telling me. "it will be done tomorrow"..well the first tomorrow was last week saturday wasn't done closed sunday , monday...tuesday they didnt finish it, wednesday the only tech allowed to touch my bike didnt go in..thursday he didnt go in.. so it would b finish friday.. they didn't finish friday..they would finish by 2pm saturday..5pm they didn't finish.. closed sunday monday..will b done tuesday(today) so f***!!!! they are lagging.. and pissing me off..irritating... but new top end fixed under warranty.. so that keeps me calm!!!!:rant:flush::argue:ugh:chair::hammer::confused::confused::confused: what would keep me calm is fix my f**kin bike and return it to me ASAP but glad you got yours fixed under the warranty mine makes the same rattle can noise at start up for a few seconds. you're not at all concerned?

Well guys my bike also makes that same noise as you guys explained. I got 2,850 miles and it did it when new and still does it, Not all the time, only once in awhile.I have noticed that if I just start the bike up and not open the throttle at all it doesent do it,but if I mistakenly open the throttle even a micro secound,LOL, it will do it almost every time, hot or cold. Try starting up your bikes and only let the starter do it and do not try to blip or open the throttle at the same time and see if that helps. If this keeps up we are going to have to get a letter written up for the complaint and we will ALL have to send or email it in to Mama Yamaha service reps so they know its REAL. I (we) had to do this on the road star forum back in 2002 because of a tranny problem, Yamaha finnaly fixed the problem , which was a vendor flaw in a clip in the transmission when they changed vendors (between 2001-2002) who makes the clips, not a design flaw like the hd twinn cam 88 engines blowing up cam bearins,LOL So we might have to do a R1 forum complaint? IN fact mine did it today after a hot ride up blood mountian, but I did mistakenly open the throttle slightly when starting it!

what would keep me calm is fix my f**kin bike and return it to me ASAP but glad you got yours fixed under the warranty so again..they said will b done tuesday!!. i called.. now they said..no later than saturday!!! wtf!!!!!!!!!!!It was suppose to b done saturday of last week.. 2 weeks to put an engine together!!!wtf.. it woulddnt even take me that long with half the tools !!!! fu**!!!!!!! i wanna go over and :nforc::nforc: while im :drunk:!! lol...a lil vent!!!

Well guys my bike also makes that same noise as you guys explained. I got 2,850 miles and it did it when new and still does it, Not all the time, only once in awhile.I have noticed that if I just start the bike up and not open the throttle at all it doesent do it,but if I mistakenly open the throttle even a micro secound,LOL, it will do it almost every time, hot or cold. Try starting up your bikes and only let the starter do it and do not try to blip or open the throttle at the same time and see if that helps. If this keeps up we are going to have to get a letter written up for the complaint and we will ALL have to send or email it in to Mama Yamaha service reps so they know its REAL. I (we) had to do this on the road star forum back in 2002 because of a tranny problem, Yamaha finnaly fixed the problem , which was a vendor flaw in a clip in the transmission when they changed vendors (between 2001-2002) who makes the clips, not a design flaw like the hd twinn cam 88 engines blowing up cam bearins,LOL So we might have to do a R1 forum complaint? IN fact mine did it today after a hot ride up blood mountian, but I did mistakenly open the throttle slightly when starting it! We shouldn't have to do any type of special procedure to start our bikes, it should be a no-brainer turn key, watch pretty lights go on, and hit the f**kin button,, This is really starting to piss me off,, 12 efen grand and we have to do a vodoo chant so the damn thing starts normally... so how do we start this complaint?? I have no clue.. and i guess my dealer doesn't either!!! so again..they said will b done tuesday!!. i called.. now they said..no later than saturday!!! wtf!!!!!!!!!!!It was suppose to b done saturday of last week.. 2 weeks to put an engine together!!!wtf.. it woulddnt even take me that long with half the tools !!!! fu**!!!!!!! i wanna go over and :nforc::nforc: while im :drunk:!! lol...a lil vent!!! I hear ya on that... and they have one tech on your bike right? what this guys got one arm and missing a thumb on the other?? WTF a seasoned tech can put this shit together in a day + do other routine crap in the shop.. I don't care how busy the shop is,, in my book take care of the guy that just dropped 12k into your establishment... bro this shit keeps up you might read about me in the papers.. man shoots salesman at local dealer while choking the service manager... at the same time... more at 11

Dealing with dealer service departments is the prime reason why I really will probably do the 600 mile maintenance myself and not have the dealer want to cry me a river on why they need to keep my bike for a week to do a stinkin oil change! Hope you get it sorted out soon. Since the advent of fuel injection on the two bikes that I've owned that have them, I've never grabbed the throttle on them prior to, during or after starting. It's key, watch the lights, hit the starter. I don't even touch the throttle until the bike's past 170 degrees and then I'm rolling off anyway. The only thing mine seems to do all the time is never kick over on the first try, but always fires right after I release, wait a sec and hit the starter again.

Ok just got off the phone with the dealer......... *According to yamaha it is normal, they have numerous complaints on it, and well aware of it *The hydraulic mechanical tensioner is the same as last years R6, with slight changes to the ratcheting system.. the teeth for the R1 are pitched wider than the R6 *The mechanical part is responsible for setting tension and the hydraulic end will take up the rest of the slack (shock absorber) *Yamaha is finding that, it takes longer for the tensioner to set and lock to the next tooth on the tensioner,(due to the wider spacing) that's why when bleed down occurs, it will back off and rest on the previous set tooth, this is when chatter/rattle occurs till the oil builds up enough pressure *Yamaha claims it will go away once the chain stretches enough, so the tensioner can automatically compensate for slack and set itself to the next tooth *Seems that my bike is in between stages, once it makes the jump the noise will go away when starting up. even after bleed down (over night, extended periods of sitting) *In closing... they are not going to change it,, just keep an eye on it, and if it gets worse, bring it back, and then we'll change it out.....FAIR ENOUGH but if it's the same as the R6 why not just give me that and call it a day... so you don't hear from my ugly arse again.. till of course for something major from the replies I've been getting from members,, I'm going to assume that from 300-500 miles is when the chain starts to slow down on the stretch, so the tensioner is in limbo waiting for the chain to stretch some more so it can make the jump to the next level... WE'LL SEE.... I'll report back with the mileage that the noise dissapears,, or that they replaced the tensioner

I just got of the phone with Yamaha. They told me that they have heard nothing about this problem and that there is nothing wrong.

Well I would think with just under 3,000 miles on my 09- R1 that by now the chain should have streched enough? Either way im keeping my eye,(EAR) out for this one.OH yea, since im going to be doing my free track day this coming sunday ( if it doesen't rain) and im using their 09-R1'S. Im going to check the mileage on the one I use and try the start up and hear if I get the noise . I figure their bikes must be pretty beat on? Ill check back with you guys sunday night.

Try this, With engine OFF, put bike in 5th gear, pull in clutch and roll bike backwards and let the clutch out so the engine will try and turn backwards 6-8 feet in 5th gear. Helps if you have a driveway thats down hill and you can roll backwards. You might need to try this more than once. These type of problems appear to be happen more on bikes with "slipper" clutches as there is less reverse tug on the cam chain on "decell" while riding to accomplish what I have described manually above. By the backward rolling deal you put extra slack in the cam chain when you released the clutch as I'm sure you're aware. This allowed the cct to go an extra click. Give this a try, it might work. Has for me on other models.

over 6000k's and it still does it.

Great,, my dealer says yamaha knows of it and another says no bikes with 3k, 6k on them and still doing it,, now what?? if mine is still doing it by 2k then I'm going to demand a swap but for the meantime I'll try the roll it backwards thing.. KLW you say it helped your 09 ?

Great,, my dealer says yamaha knows of it and another says no bikes with 3k, 6k on them and still doing it,, now what?? if mine is still doing it by 2k then I'm going to demand a swap but for the meantime I'll try the roll it backwards thing.. KLW you say it helped your 09 ? NO, thats not what I am saying. What I described did work on other brand. I have not tired it on a 09 R1. The principle is the same however. It may work, it may not. Cannot hurt to try. Basically it reverses the side where the slack is allowing the tensioner to then take up the extra slack. Good luck with it guys. KLW

well my tensioner shattered into pieces...

NO, thats not what I am saying. What I described did work on other brand. I have not tired it on a 09 R1. The principle is the same however. It may work, it may not. Cannot hurt to try. Basically it reverses the side where the slack is allowing the tensioner to then take up the extra slack. Good luck with it guys. KLW like you said, why not give a try, will do that first thing when I get the bike home,, then report on it

Finally dealer told me bike is ready took more than a month.. Will pick up in the morning and let u guys know how it goes

Picked up my 09 R1 4 days ago. I previousley owned an 04 R1. I noticed the rattle can noise while pulling away from stop lights on the first ride home. It currently has 160 miles. So I adjusted the clutch engagement way out. I prefer to use 2 fingers while engaging and barely touching the lever. Once I did this the noise went away? I will see if it comes back.

So got her back today,, 6 days of nothing accomplished except for a couple of calls to yamaha,, and some new scratches, was so f**kin pissed,, caused a scene without realizing how escalated I got then something just held me back and realized this is not worth another police report,, guess some of that anger management crap works?? Think I'm done with new bike purchases for a while, really don't want to deal with dealer service, when things like this show up... just don't understand why these pricks can't handle customer bikes with some respect. anyway thanks for all the inputs,, and hopefully this "rattle" will resolve itself, cause according to yamaha, it will,, I'll post up if it does.. although I doubt it, some of you have 3-6K and is still doing it

So got her back today,, 6 days of nothing accomplished except for a couple of calls to yamaha,, and some new scratches, was so f**kin pissed,, caused a scene without realizing how escalated I got then something just held me back and realized this is not worth another police report,, guess some of that anger management crap works?? Think I'm done with new bike purchases for a while, really don't want to deal with dealer service, when things like this show up... just don't understand why these pricks can't handle customer bikes with some respect. anyway thanks for all the inputs,, and hopefully this "rattle" will resolve itself, cause according to yamaha, it will,, I'll post up if it does.. although I doubt it, some of you have 3-6K and is still doing it I know this will not make you feel better but mine clicks and rattles at start up. Its just normal stuff. All bikes have thier quirks and this is just one of them. My solution is a three pronged approach: 1) Use Ipod and crank it up loud. 2) Add loud exhaust 3) Do not worry about it. RIde the the shit out of it and enjoy the ride. I am not being a smart ass. I have owned and ridden many bikes in my 42 years and they all do wierd shit and most of the time nothing ever happens. I realize that this is a new bike and a large investment but the odds are that it is just part of the normal noises of the bike. Mine does it too.

I know this will not make you feel better but mine clicks and rattles at start up. Its just normal stuff. All bikes have thier quirks and this is just one of them. My solution is a three pronged approach: 1) Use Ipod and crank it up loud. 2) Add loud exhaust 3) Do not worry about it. RIde the the shit out of it and enjoy the ride. I am not being a smart ass. I have owned and ridden many bikes in my 42 years and they all do wierd shit and most of the time nothing ever happens. I realize that this is a new bike and a large investment but the odds are that it is just part of the normal noises of the bike. Mine does it too. you're absolutely right,, all bikes have their own character,, just gonna ride it enjoy it,, and thinking about it, jap bikes are pretty durable

you guys could always force it out another tooth by pulling out the center bolt on the cam chain tensioner, be carefull there is a spring in there, take note of the pieces in there and the order they are in ( or look at a service manual) take a phillips head screwdriver and push on it untill you hear a click. Im not 100% positive this will work but ive done it on other bikes ( r6 and old honda f2) that had cam chains slapping a bit and it worked both times.

I always start the bike with my helmet on and had to move the bike today so did it without my helmet on and sure enough for about 1 second it sounds like someone shaking a spray paint can. My bike has 1200 km and otherwise seems to run well. The lumpy low rpm behavior that I previously complained about has actually improved quite a bit as well.

I have a little over 2000 miles and only herd it once, my buddy has 1600 miles on his and he brought it in to the dealer yesturday were I work. Ill post up and let you know what our service department says. Just like what Leo167 my service tech said the same thing when he herd it and said its vary common but there calling Yamaha this morning.

I have a little over 2000 miles and only herd it once, my buddy has 1600 miles on his and he brought it in to the dealer yesturday were I work. Ill post up and let you know what our service department says. Just like what Leo167 my service tech said the same thing when he herd it and said its vary common but there calling Yamaha this morning. Yeah definately let us know,,,

Ok here at the dealership that I work at the service manager told me that all you have to do is slowley back out the two screws on the timeing chain tenshioner untill you here a click and then tighten them back that's it probelm solved if you don't do that as the chain streches it will self fix the problem according to Yamaha or you can bring it and they will take care of it quick.

Ok here at the dealership that I work at the service manager told me that all you have to do is slowley back out the two screws on the timeing chain tenshioner untill you here a click and then tighten them back that's it probelm solved if you don't do that as the chain streches it will self fix the problem according to Yamaha or you can bring it and they will take care of it quick. going to assume that they did that to your buddy's bike ?? think I'm goin to try this,, there's members on here with 3k-6k on thier bikes and the chain still didn't stretch out enough for it to jump on the next tooth

mhhh well got my bike last friday. put about 450 miles on it since the top end rebuild and its running strong so far.. breaking it in again so not sure what its like 7000k and above.. but the knocking sound is gone..but i did here it once the other day when it was parked on a little slope

going to assume that they did that to your buddy's bike ?? think I'm goin to try this,, there's members on here with 3k-6k on thier bikes and the chain still didn't stretch out enough for it to jump on the next tooth Be careful you don't back it off more than 1 click. Be REAL carefull. Not something to be doing after a few beers either.

the dealer here just did my buddy's bike and the problem was fixed.

Be careful you don't back it off more than 1 click. Be REAL carefull. Not something to be doing after a few beers either. Damn.. I figured I'd throw some back befoe attempting this,, you know ,to ease the nerves the dealer here just did my buddy's bike and the problem was fixed. :thumbup Thanks for the Info..

Glad to help...

ya 500 miles after rebuild and the rattle can sound is back.. total of 2000 miles on it so far.. also "yamaha tick" is much more noticeable ..gonna need to try that ..

man rattle can noise almost everytime at start up.!!! It's bugging the crap out of me

Be careful you don't back it off more than 1 click. Be REAL carefull. Not something to be doing after a few beers either. this is why i prefer the manually puhing it out method, i would get paranoid and have to reset the whole thing, lol

I put a heavier weight oil in mine (20w50 synthetic)... What is the air temp where you live this time of year? Does your bike run any cooler? What synthetic are you using? Is it designed for v-twins or is it designed for a four? Are there any cons to running 20w50?

What is the air temp where you live this time of year? Does your bike run any cooler? What synthetic are you using? Is it designed for v-twins or is it designed for a four? Are there any cons to running 20w50? This is a good topic all by itself. I've been wondering about what other oil I might run in my new beast.

2200 miles on mine the first oil change was done at 375 miles, all of my riding is either agressive canyon or the occaisonal track day. I use 20-50 spectro 4 synthetic blend. My bike does not make the cam chain noise as of yet :dunno

ya i knom the manager at a local cycle gear and he heard the noise at start up and got scared himself.. was like man... take it in to yamaha... but i told him they said it was normal.... and he said no way that sh** is normal... they just dont want to admit there fu** up..but dam i love this bike

Mine has done it a few times so far but went away fast, I guess ill get mine done next.

My bike has 200 miles on it now, no noise so far, Ill be on the look out though. damn you guys got me worried now lol.

took zx10rich advice and did the backout thing,,, it did work, but b careful as that tick you're looking 4 is very faint... anyways as for me it doesn't matter,, i totalled my bike last week started a thread on it in appearance and mods... it was good while it lasted, gonna miss her

my 250 km on odo, no clack sound at all BUT has click/tick sound ...is it a problem??

Now with a little more then 2000 miles on my bike its makeing the sound every time I crank it but you know I don't know why but it really does not bother me.

Install manual TCT and be done with it...

Now with a little more then 2000 miles on my bike its makeing the sound every time I crank it but you know I don't know why but it really does not bother me. ^^^same for now, just dont twist the throttle while starting(ie. let some goose start your bike)

I checked with Yamaha today and was told that the bike has an oil fed tensioner and the noise was the nature of the beast. He did say that dealers could replace it if it made the customer feel better but it would start doing it again.

Wow hope all is well for my bike does the same thing every start but what can we do *****RIDE IT LIKE WE STOLE IT!

mhhh maybe if enough people take it in they will do something about it.. mine does it every time still.. and if i rev it to maybe 4k rpm right after u start it.. it ticks real real bad!! did it twice on accident

I've never understood the mentality of reving the bike right after you start it. I've always let it warm up fully before touching the throttle, on every bike I've had, even my kawi which is supposed to have the ubiquitous 'kawi tick' doesn't have it.

Like I said did it twice on accident. It was done at a red light. Light turns green. I turn it on and it did it .. It's been 105+ here for the past 3 weeks. . And it does that after it's already warmed up

Yep, I thought i was the only one with this paint can noise when starting it!! But it only does it when i havent started it for more than 2 days!! weird!! and sometimes when i come to lights or stops, it starts clicking, but not as loud as when i start it..Then I just RIPE the hell out of it on the highway!!! Once i come up to lights after i beat the crap out of it, usually it stops..really weird..but it doesnt do it much( I got about 4100milles) ..Also, Ive noticed that when it does the clicking, its usually right after I do an oil change ( i did it after 100miles/2000m and just did it last week end at 4000miles)..Anybody else?

im doing the first service at 450 miles and i didnt have this noise but what i noticed was some weird noise when i took off sometimes from the clutch , anyone experienced clutch noises on take off>? and i didnt break in the bike per manual instructions but didnt beat it either...any comments on that?

Was speaking to a mechanic at my local dealer and he was telling me that yamaha are looking at redesigning the CCT on the 09's although he wasn't sure about a recall, so I'm going to ask them to replace it at the moment so there is a warranty claim in place for when they have the new type ones come out.

At about 1900 miles, the startup chain noise stopped. I expect it might be back after a bit of wear, when I get in between notches again. I just let the bike idle for a second to sort itself out. The top end has quieted down a bit, as well.

I have noticed this topic coming up more that once in this forum under various starter threads. But it sounds like no has had an major breakdowns or engine blow-up from it. It must be normal...right...right?

just did my 600 mile oil change today. K&N filter and Redline 20w50...and i heard the clack for the first time on the second start AFTER the change. so oil pressure had already been built up from my test ride after the change. clacked about 3 times and stopped. wonder why, AFTER a change to a slightly heavier oil i hear it now....

2 oil changes and 774 miles ridden hard, still no noises or issues.

Same here, little over 900 miles. No issues at all.

Owned four R1's and never heard anything like this. Right when it starts up sounds like a little trip hammer in the top end for about 3-5 seconds. Making me very nervous, not to mention very embarassed around my bike buddies. :dunno

Im pretty new to posting here, but I always read everyones posts to see what is happening. I posted a issue about 2 weeks ago about the clutch slipping bad while the bike is cold. Had to bring it back twice for them to tell me that other bikes were having the same issue and that the clutch was completely dry - not getting any fluid at all - so the whole clutch had to be replaced by Yamaha - as of right now its been in the shop for 2 weeks. But - I am having the same issue with the bad clicking at startup...I am at 3500miles and still doing the same thing. The tech at the dealer said that this is normal for the R1's but I am not buying that BS. The dealer had to order a oil regulator saying that this could have also been another issue with no fluids getting into the engine or clutch, but Im just hoping that this bad slipping and ticking goes away or I will be returning the bike under the Nevada lemon law - this is getting to be a big hassle and will be keeping up with everyone else here to see any status report. I will post one when i HOPEFULLY get my bike back 8-14-09. 09' R1

Mine does it aswell, 2500miles on it, only used Yamalube so far, piece of shit that Yamaha havn't fitted a manual adjuster, 10k for a bike that chaps it cunt out on start up is well shit, might trade it for a Ducati atleast you expect shit noises from them,, How much warranty is on them anyway???

Took mine in for this and the dealer is changing the CCT for me. Didn't start doing it until just over 2000 miles. Bike has 3100 on it now. I know people on here say it's normal but i can't imagine that sound at startup being normal.

Let us know if that changes anything, osuyzf. It might be worth a mass of us demanding new tensioners.

well, 1900 miles and now mines doing it. :scared what to do?

This was my post from a couple weeks ago "Im having a problem w my 09 R1... I took it to the track and could only pull a 7.287 @ 113.2 mph in the 1/8th. I was also on the road a couple days ago and a guy pulled up next to me on an older model bike 02 03 ish, i couldnt really tell, but he had a girl on the back and we both took off at the same time, i was in second and pulled pretty hard, but at 155 my oil light came on and i couldnt push the bike beyond 159!! He came around me like i was standing still!! This is my 4th R1 Ive had 01, 02, 05 now the 09. It also has a hard time starting up when cold. I have been riding for over 20 years and with this new cross plane crank im not sure if its normal or not. I took it back to Yamaha and they said they are going to look into it. Do you guys think in the 1/8th it should be faster?? Also is there any way that guy should have come around me? P.S. also it doesnt seem to want to pull up in a wheelie at all....on my older ones they were so easy to pull up and stay up a mile or so." The end result is the ticking is still there sometimes strong and sometimes not. The dealer said that their tech rode my bike and said "wow its fast" and he couldnt reproduce the oil light comming on or any hard starts.Duh he didnt go 159.. My bike will hardly even start sometimes. Sometimes it feels fast as hell and sometimes it feels like a 600 katana lol. (nothing could be that bad lol) but no one around here knows anything about the 09 in southern illinois and YAMAHA said take it back to the dealer and tell them that YAMAHA said for them to call the tech line. I am going to try my 4th dealer and see if i can get any results. i will keep you all posted. let me know if you have any of these issues...

I blew up my first motor after 4050 miles. Ticking started after 1500 miles. Got worse and worse. On my second motor it started up around 2000 miles. And yes its getting worse and worse. Also my clutch is very touchy when its cold and seems to slip a little bit and under hard riding it makes some messed up noises. However this is only when its below 60 degrees and the bikes cold. Not enough for me to lose the bike from riding.

Well I got 5,325 miles on my 09 and I still have the rattle sound when I start it up, especially after it sits around for a week or two. I also noticed the clutch gets grabby when I first take off also, then its okay. If they come up with a new tensioner for the 2010 model, you can bet ill be complaining before the one year warrenty runs out about the noise and get it replaced.Lets ALL keep our eyes and ears on this one!

I blew up my first motor after 4050 miles. Ticking started after 1500 miles. Got worse and worse. On my second motor it started up around 2000 miles. And yes its getting worse and worse. Also my clutch is very touchy when its cold and seems to slip a little bit and under hard riding it makes some messed up noises. However this is only when its below 60 degrees and the bikes cold. Not enough for me to lose the bike from riding. That's not good to hear. Did they say what caused the engine failure, was it the CCT?

No it was more like a bad connecting rod bolt that had a small fracture in it from the assembly line. The bike started to lose power around 3000 mile i thought i broke it in wrong, but turns out that motor was a grenade with a timer ready to go.

Got the bike back Tuesday. So far no rattle at startup. Let's hope it stays that way but i have my doubts. As expected, Yamaha covered everything.

Anyone in australia reported this to Yamaha Australia? Talking to my local dealer yields no results, my clutch is also very, very touchy when cold and they just said that "yamaha said that's just how they are" As for the clicking, they just shrugged... Mine does it too, and I'm approaching 10,000km on the clock. Only when cold. Parked on an incline also causes it to do it briefly even when warm. Sigh...

Anyone in australia reported this to Yamaha Australia? Talking to my local dealer yields no results, my clutch is also very, very touchy when cold and they just said that "yamaha said that's just how they are" As for the clicking, they just shrugged... Mine does it too, and I'm approaching 10,000km on the clock. Only when cold. Parked on an incline also causes it to do it briefly even when warm. Sigh... I'm actually taking mine down to the dealer tomorrow to have a look at it, keep you posted.

hi new to this but have the same noise on start up for 3,5 sec not good only got 1.350 km on it had a 08 that shit it self at 1.300 km head had to come off i was not happy first new bike ever!!!!!!! now got a 09 black r1 1300 km and now clicking at start up new oil 10w50 still the same as when i had 10 w 40 in it talked to the rep and same old story there test ride 09 r1 in the shop is doing it at start up thats only got 800 km on it !!!! now thay say is bleed down of oil from the cct so what now he say you got warranty if any think shit it self thats crap in my book 20.000 grand forclack clack clack at start up on a new bike thats got 1.300 km on it come on YAMAHA FIX THIS CLACK CLACK CLACK ON START UP !!!!!!!!!i must say that there warranty larst time was very good drive in drive out no cost but thay need to get there reps to report it to yamaha there is lots on this page all the same i am from sa

Sychoitalian, any updates?

:) hello i am french My r1 09 began to make a jingle for the starting up in 1500 km. In 3000 km my dealer yamaha changed me the tender of chaine in guarantee. Now I am 6000 km, no problem of noise in the starting up. :):)

Hey everyone, new to the forums here. I bought my 09 R1 2 months ago. I have ridden an R6 for 6 years and this is my first 1000. I had the time of my life riding this bike for the first 600 miles. Then after the first service it started the cold start click. This noise is driving me absolutely NUTS! I go to two bike nights a week and it is embarassing as hell to have everyone stop and look at me with a look of horror everytime i start my bike! It goes away after 3-4 seconds but it is extremely loud and doesn't sound very healthy! lol I hope they come up with a fix seeing as I got the extended warranty and won't be able to swap it out for a manual CCT until the warranty is over. They tell me it's nothing to worry about at the shop where I bought it so I guess I'm just gonna ride it like I stole it while it's under warranty.

Got 8100 or so miles on mine. Has always made the noise at startup. Have not had a single issue of any kind since I Bought it (knock on wood).

Ok I've worked out how to stop the clicking on startup, Turn over the engine without letting it start for about 1 sec three times with a pause of 3 sec between each turnover and on the fourth let it start. It hasn't made a clicking sound since. What this does it lets the oil pump build the pressure up in the galleries and primes the hydraulic cam adjuster. It works for me, give it a go guys and report back expecially on cold starts.

Ok I've worked out how to stop the clicking on startup, Turn over the engine without letting it start for about 1 sec three times with a pause of 3 sec between each turnover and on the fourth let it start. It hasn't made a clicking sound since. What this does it lets the oil pump build the pressure up in the galleries and primes the hydraulic cam adjuster. It works for me, give it a go guys and report back expecially on cold starts. tried this way back...didnt work. i did it to prime the oil filter and do cold starts when the bike has sat for a long time. still does it

I'm actually taking mine down to the dealer tomorrow to have a look at it, keep you posted. no worries mate, i look forward to seeing what they say. I'll bring it up again next service, which isn't too far away.

no worries mate, i look forward to seeing what they say. I'll bring it up again next service, which isn't too far away. They said its normal and wait till the 10k service

I'd been getting the lovely paint can rattle on startup, and my dealer said it was fine when I first brought it up at about 3000 miles. however they've changed their view on it since, and replaced it at the 6000 mile service and wouldn't let me take the bike till they did it so I had to wait a week for the part. apparently according to the mechanic who's done a few now, the numbers on the part have changed compared to the original item even though the part number on the yamaha EPC is still the same. I'm guessing that yamaha have realised there is a problem and modded it, so there maybe a recall in the not too distant future.

I'd been getting the lovely paint can rattle on startup, and my dealer said it was fine when I first brought it up at about 3000 miles. however they've changed their view on it since, and replaced it at the 6000 mile service and wouldn't let me take the bike till they did it so I had to wait a week for the part. apparently according to the mechanic who's done a few now, the numbers on the part have changed compared to the original item even though the part number on the yamaha EPC is still the same. I'm guessing that yamaha have realised there is a problem and modded it, so there maybe a recall in the not too distant future. thats good to hear...should i just go ahead and bring the bike in to yamaha? its gonna be awfully hard to prove it till there is an actual recall

I wouldn't know to be honest, but check with you dealer, as mine changed it's stance on it in a few weeks. I'd taken it in for a service and when I came to collect it they told me I couldn't take it as it needed the CCT replaced. A few weeks before when I'd showed them the problem they'd said it was normal and fine.

I wouldn't know to be honest, but check with you dealer, as mine changed it's stance on it in a few weeks. I'd taken it in for a service and when I came to collect it they told me I couldn't take it as it needed the CCT replaced. A few weeks before when I'd showed them the problem they'd said it was normal and fine. sweet il give em a call...looks like this maybe be turning ok!

My machine has been making the same noise. Took it to my dealer who aknowledge that there is a noise that shouldn't be there. They are consulting with the warranty people and are going to come back to me. Frankly I am disappointed with this situation and am expecting a prompt resolution.

3500km and starting make this click 2 days ago..... thinking to change the bike now....

3500km and starting make this click 2 days ago..... thinking to change the bike now.... You would seriously change a bike because it makes a little noise wich can be easily fixed. I personally will not change one of the best bikes on the market, even if I have to pay to get it fixed expecially when its so cheap. My bike never makes that noise with the way I start my bike, I posted it earlier in the thread. But I do agree yamaha has to pull their finger out and recall it to make people happy and not ruin their reputation. Japanese people are so proud of their reputation, yet we have a quirk with our bikes and they won't admit to it. Darren Hinch use to say shame, shame, shame. ^^^^^^^^ (Australian Current Affair Host)

3500km and starting make this click 2 days ago..... thinking to change the bike now.... Mines doing it also, amongst other things. I can understand why you feel that way.

mine makes the noise too but i thought it was just another niosy yamaha thing. ill keep my eyes and ears open for a recal, i cant trust my dealership with my bike, i know they will tell me its fine but find some stupid thing that doesnt need to be replaced and charge me for it.

ive had that clicking noise for a little bit started at around 1000 miles.. but the yamaha guys were at the track for biketoberfest this weekend so i went up there and asked them about it. they said it was just an engine noise and that it would be fine something about it just being a characteristic of the new engine... the rep even said his did the same thing on occasional cold start ups so who knows hopefully its just as they say and just an engine noise

Okay, now I've got the noise too. I wonder if it's from the colder weather now. I notice it on startup and even after it's been warmed up. We went from high 80's to low 70's in the last week. But, the bike is still running as strong if not stronger than ever.

mine has 1350 miles on it and I have noticed it making the rattle can noise a couple of time since Ive had it...I dont really care, I mean it is embarrassing to some extent but really who cares....the bike is a beast and it runs like an F'n champ. ive already done two trackdays with it and im confident that yamaha's are some tough animals. my 05 r6 as had the ever living hell ridden out of it with no maintenance except for oil changes and tires....I love this freakin bike and im gonna try not to sweat the small things about it. R1 for the win :fork

Mine has been doing it since I had the 600 mile service done at a dealer. Well a few days ago at 3,300 miles, I changed the oil to Motorex 10w50 full synthetic, filter also, and it's not clicking at all now, even after it's sat all night long. It used to click like crazy for 3-4 seconds even after work (10 hours later). I dunno, but I'm not too worried about it! Still runs like a bat out of hell! I looooove this bike, need tires now though.. :) http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1791/r1sandyssmall.jpg By chaveezy (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/chaveezy), shot with Canon EOS 5D Mark II (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=Canon+EOS+5D+Mark+II&make=Canon) at 2009-10-20

mine just started tody at 1397 miles.... going to the dealer tomorrow.

I have 7000 miles on my bike and it does it, if the bike breaks then i will demand yam. to fix it, but as a previous post said, the bike rides like a bat out of hell and i honestly dont think i could ever out grow it, did the full exhaust from leo and a bazzaz...yeah i will admit the noise does get people to look at u at initial start up, but hell its a nice ass bike none the less...If anyones bike breaks, or find the fix, let me know till that time, i believe everyone in this forum understands theres a noise!

I had mine in the shop (approx 3800 miles) and was told by the Yam rep "it was normal." Tried to give me some bs about running synth oil!?!??!?! Anyway, obvious there will be a recall??? Has anyone put a manual cct in? They look trick too!!:cool:

I am so glad I sold mine!! :fact

Been over a month since the dealer replaced the cct on mine and it hasn't made the noise yet. The dealer i took it to never even mentioned that it was normal. They heard it and said they were replacing it. Can't believe how anyone could say it's normal. Even if this is part of the design, Yamaha has to know that consumers are not going to accept it.

Been over a month since the dealer replaced the cct on mine and it hasn't made the noise yet. The dealer i took it to never even mentioned that it was normal. They heard it and said they were replacing it. Can't believe how anyone could say it's normal. Even if this is part of the design, Yamaha has to know that consumers are not going to accept it. I hear ya! I diff got the 'general public' fix from my dealer. I really want to put a APP manual adj on there,,,but hell if it's still under warranty might as well wait and see....sux

I am so glad I sold mine!! :fact u know u miss your bike

Yea mine started doing the noise crap at 200 miles. The stealership told me to change the oil and said it was normal, what a load of crap. Any news on what yamaha is doing about it cus Im telling the place I got mine from to fix it

mines been doing it since 1500 miles got 6000 on it now seems like everyones is doing it i agree a recall is needed

mines been doing it since 1500 miles got 6000 on it now seems like everyones is doing it i agree a recall is needed I also think, given all the posting bout this, people are being relatively patient and content. If the bike wasn't so sweet to ride I would be unhappy, and I'm the worst with that shit. To me it's a small issue that diff needs some official attention by Yamaha....I'm mean come on,,,now that I really think about it, Yamaha HAD to know of the cct prob by the time I talked with them. But I was told BY Yam that they were not aware of a cct noise....:lhumper: I'm just trying to avoid future issues, it's not the type of engine failure you want,,,,esp at speed!!!

I got 6400 miles on my Yellow babby and the start up clacking noise now does it after its warmed up also. It use to make the noise mostly when cold and first start up from over night, not all the time ,but enough to make you cringe! So when are we going to file a letter and send it to mama Yamaha? My warrenty ends in march or april 2010.I didnt get the extended warrenty, I did not get it because I never ever needed a extended warrenty on a jap bike since 1973!But now for the first time im wondering if I should get it when they offer it to me?

alot of people are making a big big deal out of this, ya it rattles a little bit at start-up but its nothing to panic over. it takes the CCT a second or two to get oil to it, no big deal, no harm, no foul. my 09 R1 does it, my 06 zx-14 did it, my pops 08 zx-14 does it & my 08 kawi concours does it. however i do think that for as long as the various bike mfg's have been building bikes they could come up with a CCT that doesnt bleed off while the bike is sitting.

We may be making a big deal about it, I do agree, but it should still be watched just in case. remember, "the squeeky wheel gets the oil" or is that the cam chain tensioner,LOL.

I think the bike is too sweet to let this make or break my ownership....but sometimes it's so loud it sounds like it's going to come out the top of the engine!!!!! Little toooo "wtf is that" kinda thing, that's all. I will be anxious to get the fix,,,,if one is offered at all?

I think the bike is too sweet to let this make or break my ownership....but sometimes it's so loud it sounds like it's going to come out the top of the engine!!!!! Little toooo "wtf is that" kinda thing, that's all. I will be anxious to get the fix,,,,if one is offered at all? I agree with you for sure.No other inline four I EVER owned sounded or felt like this bike. Some times I may not ride the bike for a week or two (cause im on my LINER) but when I do take the R1 out for a spin the sound it makes winding it out is well, intocicating! to say the least and im still running stock mufflers! I stll hope they put this motor in the next generation FZ1 though?

Yeah, I bet this will start a wave with the other brands. Back in 98 when the R1 came out it took the others several years to catch up. So I imagine the next fad will be coming out with other engine configurations....Yam and Aprilia have....who/what's next????

hi had the rep from sa down thay are replacing the cct mine mad the noise at start up some times when hot only ride for 10 min and let sit for 30 mins and would do the clack clack and when it got to 75 temp it would sound like it was trying to jump out a click my bike has only got 1.850km on it i will let you all now what thay find tomoro i would like to see the old one it can not be good for teeth to clack back and forth and i think people how say dont worry its only a noise when it falls a part and dose your motor in !!! well i think you mite chang your mind i will post back tomoro with the news

o wait I didnt realize you guys were talking about just at start up, mine clicks all the time and people try to pass it off as "yamamhas have loud valves" is anyone on here from the connecticut/new york border area, I wanna compare mine to someone elses to see what they sound like.

well had new cct put in bike is like when i got it nice sweet start no clak clak and the tik tik is no more i seen the old one and it is worm drive with spring .. spring keeps it tight to oil gets there and worm only works when motor starts up with oil so i think the spring in the cct had lost it spring so it clack clack well thanks to yamaha drive in drive out all fix thats why you go yamaha is all fix 1!!!! i love this bike is so got bulls i had a 08 but this is so much better well i i can do is put so km on it and see how she go XXXXXXXXX

well had new cct put in bike is like when i got it nice sweet start no clak clak and the tik tik is no more i seen the old one and it is worm drive with spring .. spring keeps it tight to oil gets there and worm only works when motor starts up with oil so i think the spring in the cct had lost it spring so it clack clack well thanks to yamaha drive in drive out all fix thats why you go yamaha is all fix 1!!!! i love this bike is so got bulls i had a 08 but this is so much better well i i can do is put so km on it and see how she go XXXXXXXXX Cool...Let us know when it starts clicking again :(

Cool...Let us know when it starts clicking again :( +1, yep im sorry to say squidly but it WILL do it again. i too replaced the CCT in my zx-14 which is eccentialy the same CCT as out R1's & the noise went away but sure enough it slowly came back. until yamaha designs a CCT that wont bleed off when sitting we will always be dealing with this issue. for shits and giggles i called my yamaha dealer and mentioned my rattle, they called yamaha & yamaha told them that it is normal for the bike to do this, however if it gets to bad they will not only replace the CCT but will also replace the cam-chain itself, but mama yam assured the dealer that this noise is normal on this paticular engine. contrary to people's beliefs engines can and do make odd noises, i'll use the 5.3 in my silverado as an example, that thing has rattled at start-up since it was brand new & that was 10yrs ago, but gm said its normal & dont worry about it & guess what? its ran like a top for 10yrs & 130K miles.

Hi guys and gals. Im in the UK and have an 09 R1. I had noticed this noise from day 1, and as an Engineer for a non Government owned Detroit Car maker (!) had not been overly concerned about it. A couple of observations/questions: 1) those of you who say the noise lasts about 3-5 seconds - is it really that long or if you time it is it more like 1-2 seconds? 2) This noise is different to the mid flight noises that some of you are talking about right? I have covered 2.5k on mine, and having just belted it round two track days decided to change the oil again. I put the stock stuff in it (Yamalube in these climes here) and hey presto noise still there - but I wasnt expecting it to go away anyway. What has happened tho is that the noise is damped out by at least half. Honestly guys, I read that some of you have some bad things going on with your bikes, but the end failures are all varied and in most cases, nothing has broken and the noise is still there. Its a new development and things will go wrong its life. I agree with the posts that say its just one of those things - I wouldnt agree with it if mine did it for 3-5 seconds tho! I honestly relate it to piston slap in a car for example. Its just the mechanical noises prior to the oil doing its job. Same with the snappy clutch on a cold start - its engineering limitations. Of course Im probably going to eat humble pie and mine will pop in the morning ( when it will get redded in every gear :) ) but here is a thing - I know personally my local Yamaha head mechanic - sound as a pound he is - asked him - said yes there is a noise, no its not 'normal', but they all do it and quite frankly what is normal about this bike anyway! If it bangs yam will fix it - I dont read anywhere that Yam havent honoured any warranty claims ? So, here's what I will do - I will remember why I brought it - for some highly illegal fun, especially when the misses is on blob. I will remember to smile when looking at my mates 848 fall away in the background, and I will also remember just how slow my R6 was by comparison. By the time I have done all this the cold start rattle will be no more!

Fully agree !

^^^ ha ha good post... at first i was kinda worried about getting this bike, but its a machine, it will make noises... there are way too many positives on this bike than for anyone to be worried about some engine noise... 05 is up for sale

Don't forget, she is in her debut year. Who knows what this will lead to in the future

I'm sure those intelligent boffs at Yam do some form of durability sign off far greater than we mere mortals can do to the engine. Most cars are signed off at 250k miles for engine and gearbox and thats at cold start right to the reds in every gear! No doubt in motorcycle development they will be doing something similar (not in miles but just as challenging to the lump) Me not worried! :)

Hi guys and gals. Im in the UK and have an 09 R1. I had noticed this noise from day 1, and as an Engineer for a non Government owned Detroit Car maker (!) had not been overly concerned about it. A couple of observations/questions: 1) those of you who say the noise lasts about 3-5 seconds - is it really that long or if you time it is it more like 1-2 seconds? 2) This noise is different to the mid flight noises that some of you are talking about right? I have covered 2.5k on mine, and having just belted it round two track days decided to change the oil again. I put the stock stuff in it (Yamalube in these climes here) and hey presto noise still there - but I wasnt expecting it to go away anyway. What has happened tho is that the noise is damped out by at least half. Honestly guys, I read that some of you have some bad things going on with your bikes, but the end failures are all varied and in most cases, nothing has broken and the noise is still there. Its a new development and things will go wrong its life. I agree with the posts that say its just one of those things - I wouldnt agree with it if mine did it for 3-5 seconds tho! I honestly relate it to piston slap in a car for example. Its just the mechanical noises prior to the oil doing its job. Same with the snappy clutch on a cold start - its engineering limitations. Of course Im probably going to eat humble pie and mine will pop in the morning ( when it will get redded in every gear :) ) but here is a thing - I know personally my local Yamaha head mechanic - sound as a pound he is - asked him - said yes there is a noise, no its not 'normal', but they all do it and quite frankly what is normal about this bike anyway! If it bangs yam will fix it - I dont read anywhere that Yam havent honoured any warranty claims ? So, here's what I will do - I will remember why I brought it - for some highly illegal fun, especially when the misses is on blob. I will remember to smile when looking at my mates 848 fall away in the background, and I will also remember just how slow my R6 was by comparison. By the time I have done all this the cold start rattle will be no more! Great post! Agree totally. And yes mine does it for only about 1-2 seconds....

I'm sure those intelligent boffs at Yam do some form of durability sign off far greater than we mere mortals can do to the engine. Most cars are signed off at 250k miles for engine and gearbox and thats at cold start right to the reds in every gear! No doubt in motorcycle development they will be doing something similar (not in miles but just as challenging to the lump) Me not worried! :) Its called letting the buying public do the development. Its cheaper, cost them nothing. Not being worried = burying ones head in the sand.

Ok, go and worry about it then! Point is the problem (noise) will still be there so why beat yourself to death about it! Anyway, must dash as the sand is in my eyes :)

Ok, go and worry about it then! Point is the problem (noise) will still be there so why beat yourself to death about it! Anyway, must dash as the sand is in my eyes :) my bike is my life i love it to death my bike was making the clack at start up for 3 seconds and when geting warm say 67 75 it wold start clicking like a sound in a paint tin but its tik was not as loud i have the bike fixed with a new cct and all the noise has gone when i start it up it is so quite the way it sould be as you say it my come back well i hope not!!!!! i love it the way it is proud to start it in front of me mates so go get it fix if you are like me !!! or put up with it ...... but for me i am happy i made a vido and sent to yam rep and thay replace the next day ride in ride out thank you yamaha!!!!!!! i do not have any outher foult with the bike it out rides me 08 by the way it go in to bends and fly out with a rocket up is ass lol i love it and for me a new bike should not clack at start up. the cct is a worm drive cog that works by oil and then a spring at the end to take the slack out at start up when there is no oil it is not pleed down that dose the clack clack the oil runs back down but the spring stays tight so the the chain stays nice tight when you start it thats what the spring is for yamaha have the old cct and the spring is going to get teasted i will let you now ... :jump for now i am happy that she all good and no tik tik lololol:jump

:2bitchslamy bike is my life i love it to death my bike was making the clack at start up for 3 seconds and when geting warm say 67 75 it wold start clicking like a sound in a paint tin but its tik was not as loud i have the bike fixed with a new cct and all the noise has gone when i start it up it is so quite the way it sould be as you say it my come back well i hope not!!!!! i love it the way it is proud to start it in front of me mates so go get it fix if you are like me !!! or put up with it ...... but for me i am happy i made a vido and sent to yam rep and thay replace the next day ride in ride out thank you yamaha!!!!!!! i do not have any outher foult with the bike it out rides me 08 by the way it go in to bends and fly out with a rocket up is ass lol i love it and for me a new bike should not clack at start up. the cct is a worm drive cog that works by oil and then a spring at the end to take the slack out at start up when there is no oil it is not pleed down that dose the clack clack the oil runs back down but the spring stays tight so the the chain stays nice tight when you start it thats what the spring is for yamaha have the old cct and the spring is going to get teasted i will let you now ... :jump for now i am happy that she all good and no tik tik lololol:jumpand i love this r1 forum!!!!!!!!!!!!

I took my machine back to my dealer after adding another 1000km's (4000 now). The noise is louder and lasts for longer than a few seconds. My dealer here in New Zealand has been talking to Yamaha Australia. They agreed to pull out the tensioner and say that its fine. They also say that the cam chain is fine. They took the engine covers off the right hand side of the bike and have not been able to identify what the culprit is. They are going to look at the AIS valves next. They said they consulted with several other dealers who say they have not had any complaints in relation to this noise. Not sure whats next. I was convinced that it is the cct and that others were raising this issue with their dealers. Obviously some people find the noise acceptable. I'm sorry I don't.

ps.. my cct look like new but when thay put the new one in no clack so thay are geting it tested to try and find why it my look new well it should my bike only had 1.800km on it

ps.. my cct look like new but when thay put the new one in no clack so thay are geting it tested to try and find why it my look new well it should my bike only had 1.800km on it cool...keep us fellow clackers posted!!!! cheers

9,840 miles and mine still does it, my dealer said it was normal

so is there any issues out of this besides the annoying noise? My 09 at 6000 miles has a very minor tick, but it's nothing compared to my 03 SV. That bike has a M4 full exhaust, and on cold startup the CLACK CLACK CLACK drowns out the exhaust. Never gave me any problems though.

The "not a problem" was described in post #43 to some extent, they forgot to mention the crossplane firing order and how that effects cam chain slack. What no one seems to have recognized is the fact that there are periods of higher tension on the cam chain that causes slack on the tensioner side and periods of low tension that creates tension on the tensioner side of the cam chain (while running, typical 4cyliner firing orders have balanced tension on their cam chains and thus do not exhibit this phenomenon). The CCT is a saw tooth ratching with a hydraulic assist. The ratch prevents it from retracting back to far, while oil pressure keep the tension force correct (when running). If your engine stops rotating when during high tension period (on the tensioner side), the oil pressure in the CCT will be overcome slowly (sitting for a period of time), the CCT will move back to its last ratchet and lock. No harm, no foul. When you start your bike, to extend the plunger away from its ratchet, it needs OIL PRESSURE, this takes a little time. Once you have oil pressure the noise is gone as chain tension is correct. The noise is from the little bit of cam chain slack and the tight / slack moments occuring as the engine is rotated. This very small amount of slack is NOT going to hurt anything, otherwise all of you would have bent valves the first time it happened. The morons that have backed out their tensioners to the next ratchet have just added extra mechanical force to the tensioner, this merely wears on the chain guides... Change your oil and filter - you have lots of plastic in it. No different than over tighening a mechanical tensioner, to those of you that can relate to that. Recalls are for SAFTEY ISSUES, not something that is a byproduct of the unique firing order of this engine, that hasn't cause any failures, let alone one that is only annoying during the first 3 seconds of start-up. Quit whinning, and yes your local Yamaha dealership has no idea of why or how this engine is making this noise, they are replacing the tensioner just so you will be happy, Yamaha pays the warranty, your noise is gone (until the chain or guides wear enough to allow it to start again) the shop makes money and you didn't have to pay. Heck there is even a crank position where the valves are neither opening or closing. Sure makes cam removal easy. Can we stop with the ... it makes noise... already, your pipes are far more obnoxious and for far longer periods of time.

Quite agree with you Emry. My dealer said not to worry and I don't. However, I took it in for a 10,000km service and they called me to say they were going to replace the cct. I said it's quite ok I can live with the noise. They said no it's being done under warranty and the mechanics bike is doing the same thing, so they're going to replace it. Oh well, that's what you get for being so nice, they look after me hehehe.

The "not a problem" was described in post #43 to some extent, they forgot to mention the crossplane firing order and how that effects cam chain slack. What no one seems to have recognized is the fact that there are periods of higher tension on the cam chain that causes slack on the tensioner side and periods of low tension that creates tension on the tensioner side of the cam chain (while running, typical 4cyliner firing orders have balanced tension on their cam chains and thus do not exhibit this phenomenon). The CCT is a saw tooth ratching with a hydraulic assist. The ratch prevents it from retracting back to far, while oil pressure keep the tension force correct (when running). If your engine stops rotating when during high tension period (on the tensioner side), the oil pressure in the CCT will be overcome slowly (sitting for a period of time), the CCT will move back to its last ratchet and lock. No harm, no foul. When you start your bike, to extend the plunger away from its ratchet, it needs OIL PRESSURE, this takes a little time. Once you have oil pressure the noise is gone as chain tension is correct. The noise is from the little bit of cam chain slack and the tight / slack moments occuring as the engine is rotated. This very small amount of slack is NOT going to hurt anything, otherwise all of you would have bent valves the first time it happened. The morons that have backed out their tensioners to the next ratchet have just added extra mechanical force to the tensioner, this merely wears on the chain guides... Change your oil and filter - you have lots of plastic in it. No different than over tighening a mechanical tensioner, to those of you that can relate to that. Recalls are for SAFTEY ISSUES, not something that is a byproduct of the unique firing order of this engine, that hasn't cause any failures, let alone one that is only annoying during the first 3 seconds of start-up. Quit whinning, and yes your local Yamaha dealership has no idea of why or how this engine is making this noise, they are replacing the tensioner just so you will be happy, Yamaha pays the warranty, your noise is gone (until the chain or guides wear enough to allow it to start again) the shop makes money and you didn't have to pay. Heck there is even a crank position where the valves are neither opening or closing. Sure makes cam removal easy. Can we stop with the ... it makes noise... already, your pipes are far more obnoxious and for far longer periods of time. Very informative thanks! My whinning has now officially been stopped :)

Yes thanks for the input emry!!! Great read.

Me & Emry are aligned!!