09 R1 temperature

Hey all, I am a bit concerned about the temp on my 09 R1. When you are riding at a constant speed, the running temp is fine. It runs between 72-85 degrees Celsius depending on speed. So that is not my concern. But say you stop at the lights for a minute or 2 the temperature seems to shoot up very quickly. It gets to 105 and the fans come on. This seems very bizarre, I do not recall my 06 heating up this quickly and our weather in Western Australia at the moment is quite mild at around 20-25 degrees Celsius in autumn, so I am worried about how it will be on a 40 degree Celsius day in summer. And today riding on the freeway in traffic, it was averaging around 93 degrees Celsius and the weather was around 23 degrees Celsius. I questioned the service manager about it and he said it is because the fairing are more enclosed on the 09 then they are on the 04-08 so hence not allowing as much heat to escape when not moving. It makes sense but I just wonder if the thermo fans will keep up in out summer days. Anyone noticed this?

Yea, I did think and notice the same exact thing also. I really don't like riding in the summertime anyways, so I was thinking it wouldn't be that much of an issue, but the heating up quickly thing is kind of annoying.

If it is normal, and the thermo fans cope with it, then it is not an issue, but it does worry me a little...

This seems normal to me. I have only had my '09 since Monday this week but my Ducati 1098 runs hot and my Kawasaki ZX-10R runs hot too.

i just realize that today 40C on my city and my r1 was 221F when i was "stuck" in the trafic, but when i hit the accel (180k/h for a fee minutes) it was at 200F regards

when you give it gas you allow the pump to run faster and the fluid flows allowing it to pass through the radiator faster and pass through the cooling elements. my .02

i just realize that today 40C on my city and my r1 was 221F when i was "stuck" in the trafic, but when i hit the accel (180k/h for a fee minutes) it was at 200F regards That's beause when your temp. hit 221, your fan kicked on and cooled it down to 200...Had nothing to do with giving it gas....to me, giving it gas while sitting in stopped traffic would only heat it up quicker. :dunno

I too am concerned about heat issues. I'll let you know about the heat issues I encounter over the next few months. I'm in Arizona. It was 103 today and spring is just ending. My fans have been kicking on since the first day I bought it two months ago. I notice stop n go riding heats it up quick, the freeway there's no problem. I stopped at a gas station the other day ago and when I went to restart the bike the red temp light was on and the temp guage was maxed out at 245' F. I started the bike and let it idle for a few seconds and it cooled to 217 - 220 so I rode off. Vicious heat to the backside of the left leg and the inner knee of the right leg. ouch!

I live in nyc and sometimes i get stuck in traffic. just the other day i was in traffic and made it to my destination and shut off the bike for about one minute. as soon as i turned it back on i had a red water temp light blinking and and my temp at 242 degrees. after just a few seconds it went down to 216 but it gave me a scare. this never happen to me with the other bike that I've owned.

That's beause when your temp. hit 221, your fan kicked on and cooled it down to 200...Had nothing to do with giving it gas....to me, giving it gas while sitting in stopped traffic would only heat it up quicker. :dunno yes I agree, but what I was trying to say is that when I reach the highway I was driving at 150k/h, I reach 180k/h for 1 or 2 minutes and the wind may help a little to reduce heat.

The other day when I went to get tires (Sheesh, already need new tires @ 2.5k, 2CT's for me now) it was a little hot and I knew when I shut it off the temp. was going to rise even further (noticed that the other day) so I kept the fan on after I shut the bike off just to let it cool down a bit before I actually killed all the power, That helped a bit.

yes I agree, but what I was trying to say is that when I reach the highway I was driving at 150k/h, I reach 180k/h for 1 or 2 minutes and the wind may help a little to reduce heat. Ahhh, yes, definitely. It cools down quickly when at speeds but even if you are like just riding behind someone for a bit, it will heat up in the 215 range easily. And that's with the outside temp. at just 80-85, imagine the outside temp. @ 90-95? :ncont: That's why summertimes' a rap on riding for me.

Installed the baffle kit and rode with my buddy with the exact same bike...my temps were close to 25 degrees cooler coming to a stop light...and stayed cooler much longer

What about gutting the cat, or installing a Y pipe, that would also help out tremendously, eh?

Installed the baffle kit and rode with my buddy with the exact same bike...my temps were close to 25 degrees cooler coming to a stop light...and stayed cooler much longer What is a baffle kit? Do you mean exhaust? If so, which exhaust did you install? Was it just a slip-on?

What is a baffle kit? Do you mean exhaust? If so, which exhaust did you install? Was it just a slip-on? nope search up A&R Race Baffle kit

After installing my full system, I noticed a big difference. The bike does not seem to heat up as quick and cools down much faster when it does heat up...

@ 95-100' F: I notice that if you ride the bike @ about the 5k rpm range the bike runs cooler. you have to be at or above 55 mph. the heat I get coming out of the fairings during stop n go traffic is hot enough to toast my inner thighs and it's not even the heat of summer yet. :fork

Installed the baffle kit and rode with my buddy with the exact same bike...my temps were close to 25 degrees cooler coming to a stop light...and stayed cooler much longer Oh come on, give us a break, the baffle kit will do nothing to engine heat in traffic! The whole exhaust has little to do with (internal) engine heat. But internal heat (combustion chamber!) is driving water temperature, not the exhaust!

This engine is building up heat very quickly at low speed, even a bit faster than my old 05 R1 did. This may have something to do with higher internal friction, but I am not sure. At speeds below 60km/h /35mph and temperatures above 30?C / 85?F there just isn't enough air cooling, so the fan kicks in. That's normal. But I also noticed what Powerpand and absoluteag1 reported: If you stop the engine, the temperature keeps rising for a moment and if you turn on ignition after a moment, it will indicate a dangerous temperature level. Just start the engine and let the water pump move the hot water out. This may have something to do with the position of the temperature sensor, maybe it's closer to the head than it was on earlier models. On my 05 R1, I observed the same, but it didn't go up as high.

my temp has gone down on average 15 to 20 degrees since i've had my two brothers cans on it, shame they're soo bloody loud.

my temp has gone down on average 15 to 20 degrees since i've had my two brothers cans on it, shame they're soo bloody loud. But you are aware that engine temperature (when riding fast enough) is controled by a thermostat and not the exhaust, arn't you? Unless you are monitoring ambient temperature, riding speed and engine temperature accurately over an extended period of times and running statistical evaluations, there is no way to make such a statement. This is just imagination! The exhaust propably has got cooler (by some 50°) because you removed the cat, but the only way to lower internal engine heat I am seeing is by - reducing friction (that may have happened during break in) - colder combustion = less performance...

@ Juerg, got PM...

I stopped at a gas station the other day ago and when I went to restart the bike the red temp light was on and the temp guage was maxed out at 245' F. I started the bike and let it idle for a few seconds and it cooled to 217 - 220 so I rode off.QUOTE] [QUOTE=absoluteag1;3973855]I live in nyc and sometimes i get stuck in traffic. just the other day i was in traffic and made it to my destination and shut off the bike for about one minute. as soon as i turned it back on i had a red water temp light blinking and and my temp at 242 degrees. after just a few seconds it went down to 216 but it gave me a scare. this never happen to me with the other bike that I've owned. I had this exact same thing happen to me the other day. It was only about 70 degrees outside, stopped to fill gas, and when i turned the bike back on the coolant light was flashing and temp said 244. As soon as I started it that went away and temps went back down. They should put an electric water pump on these things to cool them if they need to run so hot like that. If the bike is really warm w/ the fans running when I go to park it, I think I'll try letting it idle for a few min until the temp goes back down. Sometimes I'll leave the bike sit w/ just the key on and fans blowing to cool down a little faster too.

Well guys, don't be afraid to start complaining about this issue to Yamaha. It is going to be hard for me to show them the issue in our winter months. But I suppose the good thing is that this is not an isolated issue, everyone seems to be experiencing it so we should be able to get something done about it.. It will certainly be interesting in the summer months here is Western Australia as we average around 32-35 degrees Celsius and have quite a few 40 degree Celsius days too.

Well guys, don't be afraid to start complaining about this issue to Yamaha. It is going to be hard for me to show them the issue in our winter months. But I suppose the good thing is that this is not an isolated issue, everyone seems to be experiencing it so we should be able to get something done about it.. It will certainly be interesting in the summer months here is Western Australia as we average around 32-35 degrees Celsius and have quite a few 40 degree Celsius days too. Where do ya go to issue a complaint ... this heat is makin' me feel like Ghost Rider :hammer:

No $hit, one of my plastic heat sheilds for the exaust has melted to the exhaust. Where do ya go to issue a complaint ... this heat is makin' me feel like Ghost Rider :hammer:

Gut the cat, it will reduce the heat, there is a post here on how to do it its not that hard just takes some time.

Thanks, I have been thinking about cutting the cat. I would think with the reduction in back pressure and increased air flow I would want a PC installed first. I would hate to run this engine lean. I am new to these litre bike engines, so what is everyones thoughts on this. Thanks Gut the cat, it will reduce the heat, there is a post here on how to do it its not that hard just takes some time.

I did not run a pc and the bike seems to run fine.

Replacing the exhaust will help with the heat under your thighs but doesn't do much to the engine running temp. Mine runs about 175F when moving and easily gets up to 225F if I am sitting in traffic.

It's been hot here 112' to 116' It's just too hot to ride the R1 anymore until it cools into the high 90's. A four mile trip to the store or restraunt burns the thighs. the engine gets pretty good. when I park the bike in the garage at 3 in the afternoon it's still in the 115 to 125' range (turn on key) @ 9pm 6 hours later! So it's parked for awhile now. ;-(

Put new stickers on mine today and it runs 20degrees cooler. Pretty big stickers though....... hmmm, then again it's now winter here...ROFL

When the ambient temp is above 80 and bike is in 1st or 2nd gear running at 7k+ rpm, there is excessive heat from the engine block around my left foot. The heat go through the boot and burns my toes, it makes the bike unridable. Usually The engine temp in these situations is around 217 - 230. I switch to the MJSPERFORMANCE and engine ICE, it helped a bit but did not solve the problem. I dont have much problem w/ heat coming from undertail are after removing the cat.

This Heat Is Miserable, Makes It Absolelutly No Fun To Ride In Stop N' Go Traffic Here In Atlanta. Also, Ive Noticed When Riding At Interstate Speeds My Left Leg Just Where It Meets The Seat Gets Very Hot, The Plastic That Follows The Seat Curve Gets Flimsy Its So Hot. I Do Have Leo Vince Slip-ons ... Should Not Affect Any Engine Heat Issues. Also If You Guys Are Sitting In Traffic Or Coming To Stopping Place And The Bike Is Heating Up, Rev The Engine To About 2500 Rpm And This Will Allow The Fan/radiator/water Pump To Work Properly. It Allows The Engine To Circulate Water Through The Radiator, While The Fan Removes The Heat. Turning The Engine Off While Its Hot Is A Bad Idea. To Be Honest Im Not Completely Satisfied With The Bike. Its Great On The Top End And When Riding Hard But Cruising Down Town Streets Or Stop And Go Traffic Its Completely Miserable. And Lets Not Talk About Comfort Compared To Other Liter Bikes... Thats My Rant For The Day ... Ha Sorry About All Caps ... Whoops

Wow, my 2000 never gets over 160 even in 90deg weather while cruising.

Went for a ride a couple days ago, it was 45 degrees outside, and even in slow traffic (25-30 mph, stop and go) the temp would go over 220 and the fans would kick on. It's ONLY 45 degrees outside!! The fans should never have to come on. Sure its nice to have a bunch of heat coming off the bike when its this cold outside, but the fact of the matter is this bike gets way too hot. That's my only complaint about this bike. Yamaha didn't quite fix the hot bike issues of the past.

you guys are complaining about a common issue of every liter bike. try to ride a duc or even an RSV4 and after probably you will never complain anymore about the r1 temps when having a rear cylinder under your ass ;)

I dont think it runs too hot. sitting in traffic w/the engine running will allow the bike to heat up naturally and the fans kick on as there is no air running through the radiator to remove the heat... hell you could be in subzero's and the fans would kick if there was no air flow. My only complaint is the extreme heat that comes out the side just about where your knee bend is. I get hot spots on my inner knee bend areas no matter what the temp is. I got through a hot Arizona summer w/no over heating or operational problems at all. I dont think Yamaha has anything to fix on this bike. they could perhaps put a 210' stat in in replacement for the 221' currently being used.