09 R1 oil filter???

So I searched around and don't see anyone posting about the 09R1 oil filter. I need to change the oil on mine, and I found that the 09 filter is a little shorter than the 07/08. Would it be ok to put an 07/08 oil filter on the 09? Anybody done this already?:dundun: I can't get an 09 filter in the shops yet:dunno

yes and go to the 09 mechanical section...

you should be able to get the filters at your local dealer. I just bought 2 on Friday at my dealer.

I'm pretty sure the K&N filter part number is the same as the one my 6r takes, (KN-204) so you could probably go with that one if you'd had issues finding the stock yamaha one.

I'm pretty sure the K&N filter part number is the same as the one my 6r takes, (KN-204) so you could probably go with that one if you'd had issues finding the stock yamaha one. I just received some K&N filters from tobefast and they are part No KN-147. They didn't look quite right so I verified that kn-204 is actually the correct part number on the K&N website. I'll be sending these back as they are 3mm in diameter bigger and 1/4" shorter. Just thought everyone should know.

Thanks for the replies. I'm guessing that the 07/08 filter should be ok even if its slightly longer than stock. BTW in Japan the 09 is not 'officially' released yet so parts are not easy to come by at this point.

talked to Nick at tobefast and he verified the part number I received was wrong. They are sending out new filters (kn-204). Apparently it is an incorrect link on their site when searching for 09 R1 oil filter. It redirects to the 04-06 filter.

indeed a 204 is on my 09 right now...that nut on the filter makes it a breeze. Btw the lower fairing does have to be loosened ,,,filter comes out the right side. Oil drain will drain on lower left fairing if you leave it on.

Did this over the weekend. I'm going with the K&N next time. My Yamaha filter was $15.50.

I like the reusable Scotts Stainless Steel Micronic Oil Filter. Spend once for superior filtration: http://www.scottsperformance.com/products.php?PartType=3 http://www.scottsperformance.com/photos2/425.jpg

The Scott's are a joke... get a real filter.

The Scott's are a joke... get a real filter. Would you care to elaborate?

Oh no... not again. To OG poster, just buy an OEM filter. ATL I have a Scott's and I love it. Trick stuff. Developed and currently used in F1. Jhelmuth they suck ass compared to OEM.:lol :crash To all and any buy what you like.:yesnod

That Scotts filter is only good to 35 microns, the Wix filter is about 17 microns, and apparently the Amsoil filter is 14 (I think) microns. You decide.

Oh no... not again. To OG poster, just buy an OEM filter. ATL I have a Scott's and I love it. Trick stuff. Developed and currently used in F1. Jhelmuth they suck ass compared to OEM.:lol :crash To all and any buy what you like.:yesnod Would you care to elaborate? [1] Scotts only filter downn to 35 microns, which is abot 10 microns more than most bearing clearances. That means you'll absolutly get real engine wear with their filter :fact Many premium filters offer a minimum of 20 micron (and less) filtration - thats smaller than any bearing or surface clearances. No engine wear from particles [2] Scotts offer significantly less filter surface area - less filtration by about 300% (1/3 the size). The good news is that you can clean them 3x as often... :confused: There's more - but I think these 2 things alone are more than enough reason to figure out that the Scotts are just a gimick/junk filter. For racing conditions, I guess they'd be OK. Race teams are going to tear down and rebuild their engines really frequently (maybe as often as each race). So wear is not a primary concern. Even so, I would love to see the real numbers of "who" uses Scotts in racing. I'd bet very few do (and those who do are probably going to be getting some $$$ from Scotts to run them). Think about cleaning a Scotts... if you distort the filter at all it's trash.... how do you get particles out of a Scotts if it can really trap the "dirt"? If it's just a 2 dimensional filter it'd be easy, but then that makes it crap because it's not 3 dimensional and will clog very quickly (not allowing clean oil to flow around the trappped particulate). Because it's design provide such a small amount of filter surface and it's 2 dimensional, you'll have to clean that puppy very often. As long as you don't mind filter changes (along with you oil) every 750-1000 miles, don't rule out the Scotts - otherwise forget about it. BTW.... what good is a filter for life if it dramatically reduces the life of your engine :dunno Come on guys.... use your head.

That Scotts filter is only good to 35 microns, the Wix filter is about 17 microns, and apparently the Amsoil filter is 14 (I think) microns. You decide. Kmac, good looking out. ...For racing conditions, I guess they'd be OK. Race teams are going to tear down and rebuild their engines really frequently (maybe as often as each race). So wear is not a primary concern... jhelmuth, while I concede to the arguments made in your second post (especially your above quote), what is up with your tone?

Kmac, good looking out. jhelmuth, while I concede to the arguments made in your second post (especially your above quote), what is up with your tone? My apologies for having a tone - it was not intended to be read that way... What "tone" did you detect? :dunno all the best, Jim PS - that's the trouble with the internet and email - it's not easy to understand the "tone" of the message (other than the obvious ALL CAPS = yelling).

...the trouble with the internet and email - it's not easy to understand the "tone" of the message... +1 No offense intended, none taken. On another note, you guys saved me some money and more importantly some engine wear. My bike and I thank you. :thumbup

Particle size is not the only parameter to care, flow rate/resistance is also important. Use the wrong filter any you'll have bad pressure conditions, resulting in all sorts of unwanted conditions. The bypass valve opening and letting unfiltered oil pass being the least critical one... I'd never use anything else than the stock filters.

so 08 filter still can be used on 09 ..?? coz i still have 2 in my garage.....

so 08 filter still can be used on 09 ..?? coz i still have 2 in my garage..... Unless it's the same article number: no! (otherwise Yamaha wouldn't make a specific part) And if I am not mistaken the 09 R1 has a different filter... After all, those few $ are not worth the risk, isn't it?

Its kinda difficult to find 09 bike s filter in my ancient city hahahaha For filter, I should find from spore the nearest....that's why I think I should use my 08 filter

Its kinda difficult to find 09 bike s filter in my ancient city hahahaha For filter, I should find from spore the nearest....that's why I think I should use my 08 filter Sanaga... Here is a way (my way) of determining if you can use an alternate filter. [1] First find out what the spin-on thread size/dimension is to fit your bike and model year. [2] You'll also need the OEM base gasket (oring if you will) size/dimension. (Note: one way to get that information is to simply spin-off the OEM filter and measure them) [3] Find out the OEM filter capacity and the flow requirements (you can look at the oil pressure range and filter size as a relative estimate if necessary), along with the bypass pressure requirements (not very critical unless you are lazy enough to allow your filter to clog before changing). [4] Find out if there are any special OEM requirements regarding the filter capability on filter paper/element (like the OEM will filter 90% of particles down to say 20 microns, etc.) Now.... as long as you get the right size thread for the spin-on AND the base gasket (oring) are the same size AND the filter capacity and flow capabilities are at least equal to the stock/OEM requirements THEN you can very likely use whatever filter will meet or exceed those specs. For example, for the 04-06 R1 (and I think the earlier editions as well - not certain), you can use a Purolator PureOne PL14610 or 14612 (the 10 is slightly longer than the 12) and I believe the MobileOne performance filter number is 108 (but check that out for yourself). Anyway... if you do some research, you ought to be able to find/determine if there is another filter that will xref the stock/OEM 09 R1 filter. Additional notes... you want to filter 20 microns or less. This virtually eliminate wear due to particles. However, super filtration at this level usually require more filter paper (IE a bigger area) via additional/deeperr folds or a bigger than stock filter can size (possibly both). Be sure that you are not restricting oil flow. Very typically, performance filters do, in fact, increase the filter element area to meet or exceed OEM flow requirements. Best wishes, Jim

thanks.....for the info...yesterday i just did oil change and did the oil filter change, i use the 08 k&n filter....it fits well and no leaks.....any problem i will experience ..??

thanks..... i use the 08 k&n filter....it fits well and no leaks.....any problem i will experience ..?? I've had K&N (long ago) and I chose to quit using them because of their filtation performance. I'm sure they flow quite well (I'm even of the opinion they flow more oil and are made more for racing applications). Overall not a bad filter, but they do not filter fine enough particles and I believe the Purolator PureOne micronic and Mobile1 performance filter do a better job. Just my opinion...