Quickshifter???

Hi all, I'm currently looking at getting a quickshifter for the R1 as I miss having one, but can't find too much info on them for the 09. obviously I could go the expensive HM strain gauge route, but was thinking of just getting a PK power (ie dynojet) one as they are cheap and it's what I had before and never had any problems with. however dynojet don't list one on their website and looking at it possibly as the 09 will need the ignition module and that is still in developmet (with no ETA). can anybody point me in the right direction

Go to graves they have em for this bike.

PCV versions are located here (http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/Products/QuickShifter/powercommander_quick_shifter.aspx). I did call PC to find out if I could use my old quick shifter with the new PVC and they said no. Just another way to suck more money from us...

The only option we offer at this time is the stand alone ignition quickshifter. This unit connects to the coils sticks and has nothing to do with the Power Commander. If Ignition timing is of no benefit to you then this unit is definitely the way to go. Offers kill times per gear and staggers the kill dependant on RPM so it offers a really smooth shift even at lower RPM ranges. I personally use this unit on my track bike as Ignition timing doesn't help on my CBR600RR. This unit will use the older PCIII style shifter. We did not change it to "suck money out of customers". Many companies have copied our shifter and even sell it with the software needed to enable it in the PCIII. We changed it to slow this down.

The only option we offer at this time is the stand alone ignition quickshifter. This unit connects to the coils sticks and has nothing to do with the Power Commander. If Ignition timing is of no benefit to you then this unit is definitely the way to go. Offers kill times per gear and staggers the kill dependant on RPM so it offers a really smooth shift even at lower RPM ranges. I personally use this unit on my track bike as Ignition timing doesn't help on my CBR600RR. This unit will use the older PCIII style shifter. We did not change it to "suck money out of customers". Many companies have copied our shifter and even sell it with the software needed to enable it in the PCIII. We changed it to slow this down. Hmm, your website and my PCV manual both state there is a quickshifter option with the PCV. Even goes into detail about how to adjust the gear shift timing. I can't say for sure if it increases the shift timing for lower RPMs like the stand-alone model though. The link I provided above takes you to this info. I guess if you didn't have the PCV, the stand-alone option would be a good one.

The PCV does have the quickshifter capability but on 8 injector bikes you need another way to unload the transmission. Simply killing the lower injectors is not enough. Once we have the Upper injector box, Ignition Module or Quickshifter expansion module then you can connect via the PCV and adjust in the software. For now you can only use the stand alone Ignition quick shifter.

So that would be why I couldn't order one over here when I tried on tuesday. Are you likely to be bringing out an ignition module or upper injector box anytime soon, or am I going to have to wait all summer for them, as I'm kind of desperate for one at the moment.

Upper injector box should be in August. Ignition Module end of the year.

The PCV does have the quickshifter capability but on 8 injector bikes you need another way to unload the transmission. Simply killing the lower injectors is not enough. Once we have the Upper injector box, Ignition Module or Quickshifter expansion module then you can connect via the PCV and adjust in the software. For now you can only use the stand alone Ignition quick shifter. Up date. PCV and the new PCV Quick Shifter DOES work on the 09 R1. It's like having an automatic tranny, lol.

so I can just buy the sensor, plug it in and go, without having to buy any of the other modules mentioned earlier?

The only option we offer at this time is the stand alone ignition quickshifter. This unit connects to the coils sticks and has nothing to do with the Power Commander. If Ignition timing is of no benefit to you then this unit is definitely the way to go. Offers kill times per gear and staggers the kill dependant on RPM so it offers a really smooth shift even at lower RPM ranges. I personally use this unit on my track bike as Ignition timing doesn't help on my CBR600RR. This unit will use the older PCIII style shifter. We did not change it to "suck money out of customers". Many companies have copied our shifter and even sell it with the software needed to enable it in the PCIII. We changed it to slow this down. This is also contrary to what I was told by PC customer support. The first time I called was to find out what rods I needed to buy to take the QS off my PCIII bike and move it to my PCV bike. The employee made no mention that the QS's were different, but did tell me the correct rods to buy. Then after fitting everything I called back once I realized that th QS from the PCIII would not plug into the PCV only to be told that I needed a new QS that would plug into the PCV for 199. Now that seems to be different from what you just said. What is the case? Does the QS for the 09 even plug into the PCV? Is it 199? how is it programed? I am not saying the people I have spoke to dont know what they are talking about, but they definatly dont take the time to explain it completely to the customer. Its like they give you the bare amount of information to get you off the phone, but clearly all the questions have not been answered.

Running the Bazzaz on mine. SUPER smooth! http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs189.snc1/6360_1191022853107_1154454156_30561099_3356818_n.jpg

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FYI - Bazzaz makes a standalone QS that can be found brand new on ebay for about $350-375.. Or you can get it with the ZFi for like $620.. Or with TC for $739..

Sorry for the bad information. You can use the PCV shifter part #4-113 pull or 4-114 push. This will connect into the PCV and the software does allow you to adjust kill times per gear. Since this bike has 8 injectors and the PCV currently only controls the lower 4 then we recommend additional products to ensure a proper shift. I have seen many competitors in the AMA run our shifter on the 06-08 R6 WITHOUT running anything but the Power Commander without issues but I can't recommend this as we just haven't done much testing with it. As R1Fast posted it is working on his bike. Since the Yamahas have a fairly high duty cycle on the lower injectors it could work. This would never work on a Suzuki.

getting mental here... I've asked Ruud Frederiks (handles Netherlands import of PowerCommander) during 2 weeks already which shift rods I need to put Dynojet Quickshifter on the R1 2009. They keep on telling me it does not exist for this bike, I've even already showed them the picture with the rods on. Still keep on telling it does not exist... I've sent 2 mails to Powercommander through www.powercommander.com... no answer... I really need these shift rods... Anybody who can help? Shift rod A, B, C??? greetz from Belgium!

I just ended up getting an HM quickshifter (which is awesome, loads better than the dynojet ones), but what you need to do is measure the following: -stock shift rod length (210mm if I remember correctly) -how long the quickshifter is (not including the threads) (my HM QS was 55mm) this meant I needed a rod that was 155mm. you will need a rod with female threads at both ends. -how long the standard setup measures between the pivot points as a reference for installing the QS, and make sure the shift rod is at 90 degrees square to the shift arm otherwise you wont get nice clean positive gear shifts. if you need to adjust the height of the gear lever do it by using more or less of the threads on the rod. you should be able to buy the rods from them if you give them the measurements, or just go to probolt, or even HM possibly. just make sure you measure the size of the threads, I think they were M4 possibly but I can't remember. good luck

I just ended up getting an HM quickshifter (which is awesome, loads better than the dynojet ones), but what you need to do is measure the following: -stock shift rod length (210mm if I remember correctly) -how long the quickshifter is (not including the threads) (my HM QS was 55mm) this meant I needed a rod that was 155mm. you will need a rod with female threads at both ends. -how long the standard setup measures between the pivot points as a reference for installing the QS, and make sure the shift rod is at 90 degrees square to the shift arm otherwise you wont get nice clean positive gear shifts. if you need to adjust the height of the gear lever do it by using more or less of the threads on the rod. you should be able to buy the rods from them if you give them the measurements, or just go to probolt, or even HM possibly. just make sure you measure the size of the threads, I think they were M4 possibly but I can't remember. good luck believe it or not but we actually sell PowerCommander ourselves.... It is ridiculous how hard this info is to find, even for distributors... sad but thanks mucho for your quick reply! now I can get this thing in second gear and order me some shift rods :rock

I answered your email yesterday?? It uses Rod A (32104060) and 2 of Rod C (32104030)

I answered your email yesterday?? It uses Rod A (32104060) and 2 of Rod C (32104030) feel free to come check my mailbox... :dunno

feel free to come check my mailbox... :dunno but hey, thx for trying anywayz :thumbup

....ended up getting an HM quickshifter.... How do you like the HM? Can you tell the difference between the HM and standard quickshifters?

It's fantastic, yes you can tell the difference, it is a lot smoother than other ones I've used. Not really much to say to be honest as it's hard to describe it but it definately is better, and definately worth the extra $$$

It's fantastic, yes you can tell the difference, it is a lot smoother than other ones I've used. Not really much to say to be honest as it's hard to describe it but it definately is better, and definately worth the extra $$$ The HM sounds like the way to go. I really like that they have a plug-n-play YEC ECU kit quickshifter that does not require a power commander or bazzaz (making the HM solution cheaper).

To be 100% honest I've been very disappointed with Dyno Jet lately.... I used to love these guys for years but lately, Their customer service is going down hill. I had a problem with my PCV and called them about it. The guy on the phone told me to put it in "original packaging" and send it back, so i did. Well after not receiving my PCV back for quit some time I called them to ask what was going on. The told me that they had received it, checked it out and sent it back. (They said every thing was fine with it which i know it wasn't because i have two 09 R1s and two PCV's one works on both bikes and this one would not work right on either) Anyways I informed then that i never received it. The guy on the phone got all pissy and said that he would send another one. (they claimed it on FEDEX) So a few days later i get this little white box that has just a PCV in it. The didnt send one new in the box (which you know they charged FEDEX for). Just a PCV that had no Serial # sticker on it , No box, no manuals, no rubber plugs, NOTHING BUT THE PCV. So I call the guy and he tells me i shouldn't have sent my box in with my PCV. I inform him that i was asked to by the gentlemen i spoke with. He said, "NO YOU WERENT." Instead of arguing with him I just told him that i need a box, manuals, rubber plugs. He gets pissy and says fine. Well here we are 3 weeks later and still no box, plugs or manuals. I really wish i would have just paid the extra money and got the BAZZAZ now. Maybe my extra money would have gone to pay some guys that treat you a little better. Sad day though because i never thought i would see the day that i had to leave this post about DYNO JET.

....i have two 09 R1s.... twice as nice! :rock

chris514scott - I am disheartened to hear that story. This is not the customer support that we strive to have here at Dynojet. I have not invested 10 years of my life to this company to hear that and I take it very personally. Being the manager of Powersports technical support I would like to get this remedied. Please let me know your RMA # and person you spoke to. Also PM me your address and I will get the parts out next day air. I am very sorry for the support you received and I hope you give us the chance to make it up to you in the future.

chris514scott - I am disheartened to hear that story. This is not the customer support that we strive to have here at Dynojet. I have not invested 10 years of my life to this company to hear that and I take it very personally. Being the manager of Powersports technical support I would like to get this remedied. Please let me know your RMA # and person you spoke to. Also PM me your address and I will get the parts out next day air. I am very sorry for the support you received and I hope you give us the chance to make it up to you in the future. :thumbup

OK so after making this post I was contacted by DynoJet and let me tell you they went above and beyond to make things right. I must have just spoken to the wrong person on a bad day or something (we all have them). I just want everyone to know how well they ended up treating us. This is the DynoJet I know. DynoJet.... THANKS AGAIN

News from DJ about the PCV and QS issues. 3 weeks they will have the QEM (Quickshifter Expansion Module). This unit connects to the upper injectors and PCV which will allow the shift. 5 weeks they should have the SFM (Secondary Fuel Module). This unit also connects to the upper injectors and allows the shift but also will allow full control of adjusting the upper injectors. 3 months they should have Ignition Module that allows full ignition timing control and of course would allow the shift. Looks like I will have a tetris board of DJ boards under my tail section. LOL

Does anyone know how the HM QS YK kill the upper injector timing if it is plugged into the PCV...and therefore the PCV controls the kill timing but only for the lower injectors...therefore the HM QS works exactly like the DJ QS, as far as kill timing goes? I am confuded.

Get the bazzaz and call it a day. :fact

The QUICKSHIFTER works GREAT on the 09....:hammer: nuff said

Does anyone know how the HM QS YK kill the upper injector timing if it is plugged into the PCV...and therefore the PCV controls the kill timing but only for the lower injectors...therefore the HM QS works exactly like the DJ QS, as far as kill timing goes? I am confuded. We are starting to work with the HM "strain guage" QS's a lot, very nice stuff! Give us a call and we will be happy to try and sort these questions for you. Thanks!

Cheaper solution than the HM, and it's a stand alone unit, I run this quickshifter on my 08 gsxr 1k. I like having a stand alone unit, that way if my FI tuner goes out, I still have a QS Looks like the 09 is on it's way http://www.danosperformance.com/yamaha_r1_r6_quick_shifter.htm

The HM Quickshifter IS a stand alone unit, which is why we were asking this customer to contact us, so we could try to understand what he was doing here... We thought it might be easier to not get into a technical support discussion up here on a thread, but instead have a phone conversation and let the user post his results. But since it is rolling... The 2009 R-1 (for which the kits have been selling for quite some time) use what is called the "Plus" version of the HM design. In fact, all of the HM Plus kits are 100% stand alone, with every variable necessary contained in the kit itself. The "Plus" has, in the kit, all the parts needed and necessary to install the smoothest, quickest and most technically advanced design straight on to the bike. There is no need to "integrate" into any other box, as everything you need to control every aspect for the HM Quickshifter to work is already built into your kit. Our advice, and what 98% of the customers we know of are doing, is to skip all the "tie in" issues, real or not real, and just install the product as its own. Of course if you "want" to integrate it into other products, HM does offer this capability and that is what you are dealing with here. But there is no "need" to do that, and as far as HM's technical support tells us, doing so adds nothing and/or no benefit as compared to "stand alone". So we suggest (not knowing all the details so we may be 100% wrong) that you skip the confusion, install the unit (you need a different wire loom that does not have the "other" connectors) and enjoy what is probably one of the best "new" technology designs for a product that we have seen in years...

I go the HM QS Plus YK a week ago. It ties directly into the coils and kills the spark. No need to mess with the PCV or AutoTune.

I go the HM QS Plus YK a week ago. It ties directly into the coils and kills the spark. No need to mess with the PCV or AutoTune. Opps! Well then, we guess you have this all sorted already... :) How do you like the product?