When reading this please keep in mind:
This is my first 190/55 tire
Prior to these tires, my suspension was set to be plush for the commuting
The only other tires I used for riding was PP, so I can?t compare to pp2ct or power one
I may not be as fast as you
I may be faster than you
The bike is used only for canyon carving and riding to carve canyons... not much more
My tire pressure is currently set at 30/29


Alright here goes my review, the tires themselves look great, and they ride as good. They turn in a little better and instill a little more confidence with the softer compound that goes higher on the tire, however I foresee them not lasting very long (1200-1500 miles of canyon carving) in aggressive or semi-aggressive riding. The confidence has increased my speed going into and coming out of the corner. They have not slipped on me once. These may very well be my tire of choice for awhile. The prices are really good right now. I will have a track day review for you after april 17th.

Joe

Yes, I know I really like the pures

When reading this please keep in mind:
This is my first 190/55 tire
Prior to these tires, my suspension was set to be plush for the commuting
The only other tires I used for riding was PP, so I can?t compare to pp2ct or power one
I may not be as fast as you
I may be faster than you
The bike is used only for canyon carving and riding to carve canyons... not much more


Alright here goes my review, the tires themselves look great, and they ride as good. They turn in a little better and instill a little more confidence with the softer compound that goes higher on the tire, however I foresee them not lasting very long (1200-1500 miles of canyon carving) in aggressive or semi-aggressive riding. The confidence has increased my speed going into and coming out of the corner. They have not slipped on me once. These may very well be my tire of choice for awhile. The prices are really good right now. I will have a track day review for you after april 17th.

Joe.


NICE Review. :fact


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Nice. More stick but more wear. Looking forward to your track review!

As it seems, these tires may last 2k, gone very well so far without slip (750 miles) and I will prolly have a new set for the track day seems how I have been riding every weekend. I am not one to brag much but with these tires, the confidence lvl is way high, so much so that others have noticed that I am faster with these tires, as the tires wear more I will let everyone know what the life span is

Joe

As it seems, these tires may last 2k, gone very well so far without slip (750 miles) and I will prolly have a new set for the track day seems how I have been riding every weekend. I am not one to brag much but with these tires, the confidence lvl is way high, so much so that others have noticed that I am faster with these tires, as the tires wear more I will let everyone know what the life span is

Joe.

Makes Sense.

Softer Stickier tires hold better, and give you more confidence. :fact


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subscribed, waiting for detailed report and after the track day.

Great Review!! I like my Diablo IIIs for now..

how many miles did you get out of the pps?

2k isnt very confidence inspiring for my wallet

how many miles did you get out of the pps?

2k isnt very confidence inspiring for my wallet.

He's got 750 miles so far.

He he estimating they should at least get 2000 miles.

So, guess, we are all still waiting for someone to take a tour across the country NOW... and get some THousands of miles on them. :)


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I got 5k miles with my pilot powers with commuting and canyon carving, now I only canyon carve... I would get a lot more if I commuted too... but at the current price, it isn't that bad on the wallet for me

Thanks Joe. Just ordered my Pures from Hardracing tonight. Looking foward to trying them out.

Hmmm. What happened to Paytheons post?

As it seems, these tires may last 2k, gone very well so far without slip (750 miles) and I will prolly have a new set for the track day seems how I have been riding every weekend. I am not one to brag much but with these tires, the confidence lvl is way high, so much so that others have noticed that I am faster with these tires, as the tires wear more I will let everyone know what the life span is

Joe

Can we have an update on the tire wear please?

Can we have an update on the tire wear please?.

That would be nice.

To finally know what kind of mileage to expect on these, from FACTS. :fact

NOT Speculation. :dundun:

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Can we have an update on the tire wear please?

about 500 miles on my rear. scrubbed in half-decent but otherwise minty. even at proper FL pressure (36ish) grip is no issue. i'd guess on better roads at decent pressures wear will be more than acceptable in relation to performance.

everything you hear about these is true to my early estimation. pull the trigger on em and don't look back. :fact

I wish I could give a better idea on tire wear, but I haven't ridden for a few weeks due to the exhaust is being painted 3 weeks ago, my kids party last weekend, and I had family over 2 weeks ago, I wish I could give more info, but right now the bike is just sitting until the track day

My apologies
Joe

well, the track review of the tires will be posted up tomorrow, i am too tiredand i wont make much cents...

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Makes Sense.

Softer Stickier tires hold better, and give you more confidence. :fact


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:secret: Then get Power Ones:fact

alright, the tire pressure i ran first was 26/28 but i had to adjust to 27/28 cuz the rear tire was a slipping a touch

i ride B group with ease but not the fastest there but at a faster pace then others

Now on to the tire after finding a good tire pressure, i kept going faster and faster into the corners (not my imagination but actually going faster)
they held out well under the torque of first gear at 11k rpm and accelerating hard out of the corner leaned over
they held really well... very sticky...
however this does mean i wont be able to gauge how many miles they last on the street due to the trackday wear....
and yes paytheon, power ones are a better tire, but they exceed my current needs
let me know if you have any other questions, the track was streets of willows

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and yes paytheon, power ones are a better tire, but they exceed my current needs
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And TOTALLY different price point. :fact

Much more :dollar:dollar:dollar


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I have about 900 miles on them, they are great in the canyons. they are really responsive, turn in is great on the taller 190 rear.. I feel pretty confident with them. Nothing to complain about here :)

alright, the tire pressure i ran first was 26/28 but i had to adjust to 27/28 cuz the rear tire was a slipping a touch

i ride B group with ease but not the fastest there but at a faster pace then others

Now on to the tire after finding a good tire pressure, i kept going faster and faster into the corners (not my imagination but actually going faster)
they held out well under the torque of first gear at 11k rpm and accelerating hard out of the corner leaned over
they held really well... very sticky...
however this does mean i wont be able to gauge how many miles they last on the street due to the trackday wear....
and yes paytheon, power ones are a better tire, but they exceed my current needs
let me know if you have any other questions, the track was streets of willows

alright now that i have had time to think, the tires held the road very well but gum'ed up just as good.... my top tach (ish) was around 12k in second gear i cant say what speed that was cuz the speedo was taped off (stock gearing if you know where to find it) i did take the trackdaz academy and i was prolly the fastest out there (other then the instructors) with all said and done, i would FOR SURE purchase these tires again
so hardracing.com when i find the time to enjoy these tires a little more, you may have to mail out another set of tires for me :fact

alright now that i have had time to think, the tires held the road very well but gum'ed up just as good.... my top tach (ish) was around 12k in second gear i cant say what speed that was cuz the speedo was taped off (stock gearing if you know where to find it) i did take the trackdaz academy and i was prolly the fastest out there (other then the instructors) with all said and done, i would FOR SURE purchase these tires again
so hardracing.com when i find the time to enjoy these tires a little more, you may have to mail out another set of tires for me :fact.


Excellent.


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another review of you are still un-sure

http://www.edrperformance.com/insider/showthread.php?t=3429

another review of you are still un-sure

http://www.edrperformance.com/insider/showthread.php?t=3429.

Still Not good enough. :)


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I've got the pure's on my 09---a shit ton better than the donecraps that came stock. Before I put them on I did kinda weigh them.. the weighed the same as my worn out dunlops..well which is good...
anyways steering is quickened up a bit-- as is always with "new tires"- whats good is the feed back- the on road compliance of these cannot be touched- they absorb bumps very well without feeling smushy- I ran 34 rear 35 front psi's- Rain slick roads still offered allot of corner and braking grip. Stability and is good too- especially in bumpy coners.... Full left to full right transitions were quikened over the stock dunflops( im not sure what yamaha was thinkin when the equiped those-...maybe they were drinkin,....)
Previosly I wasn't a fan of the 2ct's as they felt slugish when compared the the regular powers despite having more grip. The 2 ct's were heavy- 'an it felt like it .. the carcas was allot stiffer too... bumpy tire...no thanks...I was about to go back to bridgstone when the Pure's showed up... well these here new fangled pure's are the cats ass... I'd give them an edge over the diablo IIIs( which I LOVED!!!) for quicker steering and performance in the wet. Fuhgehtabout the 2ct's too AANND hey... Price is better too.
I've got 750 miles on it so far- look great still- roads varied from chip seal ( which is very hard on tires) concrete to new asphalt- these tires wear good and grip well on anything within reason- but then again so do allot of other tires,
I recomend these for the 09-10 especially if you're looking for a an overall performance improvment in many areas- I check back in when I break the 1.5k mark-- Im also in a new state now too as a of a few weeks ago--no more Arkansas

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Great review.


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I was thinking of getting these particular tires and have been doing a lot of research on them. After reading this review and the one posted in it (link) I'm sold and will definately be swapping out the Dunslops for a set of these. I transitioned from the stock Dunslops on my 08 R6S to 2CT's and bye bye chicken strips - enough said. I'm sure the newer more improved Michelin's won't dissapoint. Although I doubt I will get the same mileage out of em on the 1 as I'm getting on the 6 (5k in on the 6 and looks like at least 3k left). Damn rear tire on the 1 is at 3/32" and I've only got 1600 miles on it. Guessing after 2500 it will be toasted. I'll be happy if I get 5000 out of the Power Pure rear tire on the 1. I guess only time will tell. :dundun:

i still have alot of tread left, but my bike is now used mostly for the tracks so i really cant tell you how long they will last... only thing i have to say is that they provide the traction needed for the track with ease.... best of luck and i hope they are as rewarding to you as they were for me

I too use Power Pures, but for a whole different purpose than most. Here in the Pacific Northwest it rains alot. Quite often we have to track or race in rain and shower. In rain where the track is soak and wet I will run Power One rains. Normally that's enough...till the track starts to dry to the point you can't hunt puddles on the track anymore. Those times where you get small showers and then it turns dry, using rain tires is out of the question being as you can burn a set up in as little as 5 laps if the track isn't wet. At 400 dollar set that's out of the question. The solution: Power Pures. They work great on both dry and semi-wet tracks at speed. You definately have to manage the pressures while running them, depending upon the wet/dry condition of the track, but overall they are a great inbetween solution.

Cool, thanks for the added opinions guys. I don't know if I will track the r1 as it was expensive and don't want to increase my chances of binning it. Might do so with the 6 though if I can afford to keep it! :)

I was thinking of getting these particular tires and have been doing a lot of research on them. After reading this review and the one posted in it (link) I'm sold and will definately be swapping out the Dunslops for a set of these. I transitioned from the stock Dunslops on my 08 R6S to 2CT's and bye bye chicken strips - enough said. I'm sure the newer more improved Michelin's won't dissapoint. Although I doubt I will get the same mileage out of em on the 1 as I'm getting on the 6 (5k in on the 6 and looks like at least 3k left). Damn rear tire on the 1 is at 3/32" and I've only got 1600 miles on it. Guessing after 2500 it will be toasted. I'll be happy if I get 5000 out of the Power Pure rear tire on the 1. I guess only time will tell. :dundun:.

Most customer who we sold PURE's to that have put on some good mileage so far have reported 5-6000 miles, and still plenty tread left.

That's pretty good for a tire of this caliber. :fact

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^^Wow, thats more impressive than I thought it would be. I figured with the r1's power it would be killed AT 5k, not last longer. Guess the stock D210's are just that soft of a tire:saw:.

This is very re-assuring.:)

^^Wow, thats more impressive than I thought it would be. I figured with the r1's power it would be killed AT 5k, not last longer. Guess the stock D210's are just that soft of a tire:saw:.

This is very re-assuring.:).


no doubt.

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I just switched from the pilot power 2ct to the power pure. The softer compound power pure is awesome when warm, but f*cking sketchy when cold. U-turns when it's cold in the morning are bad news. When i tracked the 2ct at Buttonwillow I noticed that I was significantly quicker on cold tires than those are racing slicks. The harder compound warms up quicker and holds greater lateral loads at lower temperatures. So, my take on the power pure: good for canyon carving (haven't tracked them yet), dangerous for commuting/low tire temperature riding.

I just switched from the pilot power 2ct to the power pure. The softer compound power pure is awesome when warm, but f*cking sketchy when cold. U-turns when it's cold in the morning are bad news. When i tracked the 2ct at Buttonwillow I noticed that I was significantly quicker on cold tires than those are racing slicks. The harder compound warms up quicker and holds greater lateral loads at lower temperatures. So, my take on the power pure: good for canyon carving (haven't tracked them yet), dangerous for commuting/low tire temperature riding..

Strange.

We all use them on our street bikes for past 18 months.
All of us came from 2CT, and Power before that.

Hot, Warm, Cold, doesn't matter, we all love the Power PURE.

It's been low 30's - 40's in the morning here recently, no issues.
Of course, ANY Tire is sketch at those temps. :fact

But, that is to be expected.

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I just switched to the Pures myself. Lots more feel than the Q2s I had been running. The Dunlops were great when warm but made me a little nervous when cold and wet. No issues with the Pure. Have about 500 road commute miles and they still look new.

I just switched to the Pures myself. Lots more feel than the Q2s I had been running. The Dunlops were great when warm but made me a little nervous when cold and wet. No issues with the Pure. Have about 500 road commute miles and they still look new.

what tire pressure are you running on them?

what tire pressure are you running on them?

Running about 35/36 rear and 32/33 front. I started with 36f and 36r but the front seemed a little loose. Could have been just different tire profile from the Q2 but I lowered the front pressure and it seems much better.