Help
I am getting it up (the bike):lol nice in 1st,pretty good fell of where i am(practising on a mountinbike).
Now i wanna shift gear in the act.
Do i use the clutch or not(don´t wanna break my gearbox).
When should i shift , and where do i sit,up against the tank,or back against the passenger seat?
I am learning it slow...DON"T WANNA FLIP IT::fact
A new R1 in Denmark costs:229.000 dkr=35.200 us$. :butt

I haven't gotten into wheelies too much on the R1 yet, but from other bike experience I'd say the answer is no. don't use the clutch, it takes too much time and your front end will come crashing down. Once at the balance point, just let off the gas a bit and kick it up a gear, but be careful not to flip it after you are done shifting.

35,200 US Dollars???! WTF is up with that, how do you afford that shit

How can a super sportbike MSRP at $10,300 be multiplied over 3 times to $35,200 US dollars in Denmark???? Holy crap, I knew there were taxes, BUT ... DAMN! That sucks!!!

Use the clutch. You are always risking a hard and abrupt shift when you don't use the clutch, and that's the last thing you want when doing a wheelie. If you can't shift it fast enough to keep the front end up, you need to work on two things...

Shifting faster with the clutch. Go to the strip and practice drag racing. The one skill that's critical to good quarter mile times is working the clutch. 1st and 2nd are more slipping the clutch, but 3rd and 4th are quick shift. You aren't really pulling the clutch in and releasing it, you're more flicking the clutch lever. Flicking is easy. The part to practice is timing the flick with the shift itself. Timed right you get a VERY fast shift that is also very smooth.

Getting the front end higher up in the air. With the front end higher, the center of gravity is closer to the centerline of the rear wheel. Not only do you have farther for the front end to drop, but it will drop less in the same amount of time (tenths of a second timeframe here)

Hey!! Du er da vist den første dansker jeg har set her i forumet...! Og ja, den cykel er f....... dyr!! Godt man har lidt tid endnu til at spare lidt i. :-)

And for all of you, who can't understand danish:

Hi! I think you're the first dane, i've seen on this board...! And yes, that bike is f....... expensive!! Good thing I still got some time to make a few bucks. :-)

I would suggest bringing the bike up in 2nd, shift into 3rd. It is a lot smoother and a lot better on your transmission. 1st to 2nd passes through your neutral and can cause premature wear, but shifting from 2nd to 3rd is easier on it. Also, you have more room for error, the torque isn't quite as aggressive.

Jørund og Jeg er her også, og vi er også Danskerer.

You may shift by providing pressure to the gear pedal, and quickly blip the trottle.

Alternative you can buy a quick shifter.

Johnnie
2000 R1

Johnnie, you should actually shift to next gear very fast. Not smooth. that will give your shift forks a hard time.

Just quickly in with next gear and give throttle again.

Watch my video and you'll see.

Originally posted by jRaskell
Use the clutch. You are always risking a hard and abrupt shift when you don't use the clutch, and that's the last thing you want when doing a wheelie. If you can't shift it fast enough to keep the front end up, you need to work on two things...

Shifting faster with the clutch. Go to the strip and practice drag racing. The one skill that's critical to good quarter mile times is working the clutch. 1st and 2nd are more slipping the clutch, but 3rd and 4th are quick shift. You aren't really pulling the clutch in and releasing it, you're more flicking the clutch lever. Flicking is easy. The part to practice is timing the flick with the shift itself. Timed right you get a VERY fast shift that is also very smooth.

Getting the front end higher up in the air. With the front end higher, the center of gravity is closer to the centerline of the rear wheel. Not only do you have farther for the front end to drop, but it will drop less in the same amount of time (tenths of a second timeframe here)


you are crazy, ive been around a bunch of crazy ass nuts that do wheelies and none of them use the clutch when shifting gears in a wheelie. it's almost impossibe because as soon as you pull in the clutch it will come down like a sack of rocks.
all you have to do if you want to shift gears is to keep hard pressure on your shifter(it should not click into gear yet). as soon as you drop the rpm(ever so slightly) it will click right into the next gear.
it's a technique that everyone i know uses, including team x-factor and lvx:boobies

Originally posted by charliev68



you are crazy, ive been around a bunch of crazy ass nuts that do wheelies and none of them use the clutch when shifting gears in a wheelie. it's almost impossibe because as soon as you pull in the clutch it will come down like a sack of rocks.
all you have to do if you want to shift gears is to keep hard pressure on your shifter(it should not click into gear yet). as soon as you drop the rpm(ever so slightly) it will click right into the next gear.
it's a technique that everyone i know uses, including team x-factor and lvx:boobies

I bet there are 100 different ways to make bread, and more than one way to skin a cat. He is not Crazy, and he is not wrong. I ALWAYS use the clutch when shifting in a wheelie. I don't do it in a rush either, I take my time and make a nice smooth shift.

Get the bike up and when you are ready to shift, give it a bit of gas to get it BACK FURTHER than it was already, then pull in the clutch lever and shift, then let the lever out and get back into the gas. If you do it correctly it will be pretty smooth and you will still be in a wheelie.

No matter what happens, DO NOT GET INTO A RUSH. Trying to hurry, or having the feeling that you HAVE TO DO IT OR ELSE are what will get you crashed out. Just take your time and do it.

Really it does not matter if you use the clutch or not. It can work either way. I like using it because I think it is smoother than not using it.

If you do not use the clutch the bike will jerk a little bit when you shift, it's not a huge deal just something to be ready for. When you don't use the clutch you make the motor drop 500 rpm all at once, and that makes the bike jerk.

However you decide to try it, have fun with it. We got these damn bikes to have fun on, not to argue over :)

A buddy of mine who rides an R6 is a member of Team X-Factor. His name is Joey Barta. He is a very talented rider. I gaurentee you he can do it either way. It makes no difference.

jay you got your bike done yet?
if so how about the how to video?:D

I bought a motor off of EBAY. I went to Houston last Sunday to pick it up. I hope to have the bike up in a week or two.

Me and a buddy are going to do a 6 hour endurance race at Hallett Motor Racing Circuit on Saturday. I am working like crazy to get the race bike together. It has not been started in a year...lol It is missing several pieces we need to get it going.

Once I get the race bike done I have three other bikes at the house to get done, then I can work on the r1 :) Man I am ready to ride. My roomate is tired of me riding his F4I I know...lol

I do a no clutch shift from 1st to 2nd before I even hit the balance point for around city streets and on open roads I power it up in second and leave it in second, sit on about 100kph and just cruz, might start using the clutch thou, I'm on my 3rd gear box in 10,000 kays:hellobye