Tires-Mixing and Matching???

Time again for new tires. Going with BT010 for the rear (180) and thought that I should match the front. (not size wise...smartass) Should I consider a different brand/compund for the front? and if yes....what would you suggest for hard street riding on the backroads, mixed with a healty dose of wheelies.

I got BT010 front & rear and i WOULD NOT EVER consider matching the front or rear with any other brand !! Just love my BT010 and next, i'll have the BT012SS !!

bump Yeah, I love the 010...and I got hugh mileage from it...so its a no brainer...but I have heard people complain that they are not soft enough for the front so they went with something else. I think mixing/matching is wrong, but I dont know...thats why I am asking the expertz..... Anybody else???? cmon guys...eyespy?? u out there??? lil help bro?

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C'mon R-Uno...its not the tires.....he was facing the wrong way. :lol Well...I guess that nobody really has an informed opinion on this matter. Could it be possible that I have "stumped" the forum??? *** it......I am goin with a set of 010's

Originally posted by RHCP Time again for new tires. Going with BT010 for the rear (180) and thought that I should match the front. (not size wise...smartass) Should I consider a different brand/compund for the front? and if yes....what would you suggest for hard street riding on the backroads, mixed with a healty dose of wheelies. I nearly always match F/R tire make and model. But that isn't to say that you can't mix and match. It's important to make sure that the front tire has either the same amount of grip as the rear, or more. If the front compound is harder and less grippy than the rear, you may get the rear pushing the front, which will cause you to lowside in most cases. Unlike the rear, once your front starts going, there ain't much you can do to bring it back aside from reciting a quick and effective prayer. So, yeah, you can mix and match, but make sure the front is at least as sticky as the rear. Also note that some front tires today are being designed to do ALL of the water displacement duties. The Pirelli Diablo and Diablo Corsa are examples of this type of design. The middle of the Diablo rear has no tread - when riding in a straight line the rear relies on the front diablo to clear all the water. So make sure if you mix and match that the rear you choose does not require the front to do all the wet duty if the front is not designed to do that.

Originally posted by RHCP Well...I guess that nobody really has an informed opinion on this matter. Could it be possible that I have "stumped" the forum??? *** it......I am goin with a set of 010's Some guys will run a harder rear and softer front from the same family, Bt020 rear and Bt010 front. Supercorsa front, Diablo rear. Rennsport street front, M1 rear, etc. I've never done it but I understand the logic= Go with a sticky front, cause most people can go through two rears to a front, and though if you slide the rear you may catch it, but if you lose the front, you're almost always toast!

I recently switched to the Michelin Pilot Road (rear), this tire sticks like any other (believe me) and is quicker in the handling department than the 010, supposed to last 5K+ miles too. So far I have 2K miles on it and everything is spiffy, will know better as it wears. For the front I have an 010 for now, fixing to switch with a Pilot Sport soon as it wears out. M1's are great but do not last more than 2K miles, 010's are great too but last about 2.8K miles (rears) and are slower handling. If the Pilot Road lasts 5K+ as some of my buddies rave about, I'm converted. Strange thing but I have not seen any drastic effects of mixing and matching front and rears for "spirited" street riding, track's a different story!

Damn, Gb506, you type faster than I do!

Originally posted by 9mile Damn, Gb506, you type faster than I do! Doh!

Rone: I'm interested to see how many clicks you get out of the Pilot Road rears. I'm dealing with a situation where I'm in between jobs and riding is essentially all I do. I go through a rear in a week or 10 days most times, depending on weather. The 190/50 M1 I have on now will be a week old tomorrow and it has ~900 miles and no freakin tread left. None. Anyway, as you can probably imagine I need a more economical way to do this. A couple hunge $$$ every 10 days just doesn't cut it right now. Please let me know how you fare, OK? Thanks. Originally posted by RoneRider I recently switched to the Michelin Pilot Road (rear), this tire sticks like any other (believe me) and is quicker in the handling department than the 010, supposed to last 5K+ miles too. So far I have 2K miles on it and everything is spiffy, will know better as it wears. For the front I have an 010 for now, fixing to switch with a Pilot Sport soon as it wears out. M1's are great but do not last more than 2K miles, 010's are great too but last about 2.8K miles (rears) and are slower handling. If the Pilot Road lasts 5K+ as some of my buddies rave about, I'm converted. Strange thing but I have not seen any drastic effects of mixing and matching front and rears for "spirited" street riding, track's a different story!

Wow a 190 rear and no tread left @1000 miles, I'm sure there's more to this story, is there no tread just in the middle?

Originally posted by RoneRider Wow a 190 rear and no tread left @1000 miles, I'm sure there's more to this story, is there no tread just in the middle? Just replaced it today at 953 miles. teh outer 1 3/4 inches of tire still had discernable tread, but not much. the rest of it was pretty bald. I have a problem with powering out of corners. I might need therapy or something.

Or maybe less rebound damping...

Originally posted by RoneRider Or maybe less rebound damping... Yeah, I dig it. I've been there. I'm softer w/ less damping (both c and r) than I'd like to be now due to traction issues. If the bike is set up to handle sharply the rear doesn't want to stay planted for me on hard exits. It's a trade-off but I'm getting a lot faster even with non-optimum suspension setup. And when I switch back to a turning tuned setup it's like a baseball player using a heavy bat... I can't squat the rear and shoot out at full bore but my corner speed increases significantly. Maybe it has something to do w/ my 220lb weight. I don't know. Anyway, I kinda like to abuse the rubber and I wish I had 20 or 30 more HP to really see how much a street tire can take out of the corners.

It's the entry speed that matters (for fun), not how much twist after the fact, jus messin with ya.

V&M R12000 ride by the late David Jefferies mixed front different brand and Rear Pirrelli on TT Race.

Originally posted by RoneRider It's the entry speed that matters (for fun), not how much twist after the fact, jus messin with ya. My favorite feeling is exiting with the front tire just barely touching the tarmac while the swingarm flexes back and forth under the stress due to big time hookup. Yeah baby!

ride by the late David Jefferies

I run a supercorsa wet in front and a bt010 in the rear and have no complaints.

I love my M1's. I need a new rear tire! the front M1 is still good though... they have about 7000km's on them, the rear un-surprisingly has about 4mm of tread left... Do you guys think that keeping the front (which seems to be fine) and getting a new rear will affect the handling of the bike much.. Never done it, so I'm not to sure! have always just bought them as a set... ;) thanx fellas.