Recommendations for June 8th

rezar1
06-02-2003, 09:17 AM
Can you guys come up with some recommendations for a meeting spot for June 8th. The last meeting spot was cool but there wasn't anywhere special to ride to that was near to the location. The only places I can thing is around the Malibu/Rockstore area and the Crest. Any other suggestions?

XT777
06-02-2003, 09:23 AM
I do not like to ride on Sundays...There are 2 to 3 times as many cops out and 4 to 5 times as many bikes out. When i ride, i like to see as few of both as possible. Having said that...I vote for Malibu/Rock Store. XT777

rezar1
06-02-2003, 09:34 AM
I like to ride on Sat as well, but unfortunately this upcoming weekend, I have my graduation ceremony to attend to and I can't make a sat ride. We need to get organized for Vegas. We have patches, sticker and hopefully t-shirts and people said they want those prior to going to Vegas. So the only other time would be Sunday. Also, how many people are interested in meeting up on June 8th and actually plan on coming?

BRBJackson
06-02-2003, 11:12 AM
Cops are coming down HARD on sportbikes at the Crest and (so I've heard) the Rockstore area, so I'd suggest this for Sunday the 8th: - Meet in Sunland at the Coco's on Sunland Blvd. off the 210 fwy at 8AM - Meeting/breakfast until 9-9:30AM - Ride Big Tujunga-Angeles Forest-Lake Elizabeth-Lake Hughes - 2nd meeting at Country Girl bar in Castaic. New barmaid there with big hooters :D , plus cheap beer... uh, soda :confused: - Lunch at the Mexican restaurant down the street from Country Girl Sound good to everybody? If so, add your name... need to reserve space at the Coco's if it's a big group Sign Up List: 1. BRBJackson 2. 3. 4. 5.

rezar1
06-02-2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by BRBJackson Cops are coming down HARD on sportbikes at the Crest and (so I've heard) the Rockstore area, so I'd suggest this for Sunday the 8th: - Meet in Sunland at the Coco's on Sunland Blvd. off the 210 fwy at 8AM - Meeting/breakfast until 9-9:30AM - Ride Big Tujunga-Angeles Forest-Lake Elizabeth-Lake Hughes - 2nd meeting at Country Girl bar in Castaic. New barmaid there with big hooters :D , plus cheap beer... uh, soda :confused: - Lunch at the Mexican restaurant down the street from Country Girl Sound good to everybody? If so, add your name... need to reserve space at the Coco's if it's a big group Sign Up List: 1. BRBJackson 2. RezaR1 (bring T-shirts hopefully) 3. 4. 5.

R1_Demon
06-02-2003, 06:06 PM
Sign Up List: 1. BRBJackson 2. RezaR1 (bring T-shirts hopefully) 3. R1_Demon 4. 5. Wholly crap that's gonna be an early day. Hehehe... Anyone have the actual address of that Coco's??? I have NO clue where the hell Sunland is. Hehehe...so I need an address so I can print out directions on how to get there. Sounds like it's going to be a good time. I'm in...but just have to find out where it's at.

R1_Demon
06-02-2003, 06:09 PM
I need an actual address. I just checked Coco's website for sunland blvd. in Sunland, CA and it lists 5 darn locations near the 210!!!! I don't want to be gonig to the wrong one. LOL So, if someone can give me the actual address, it would be much appreciated. :) :crash

R1_Demon
06-02-2003, 06:12 PM
Disregard...I'm a fargin' idiot. Found it on the site. Address is: Coco's 10521 Sunland Blvd. Sunland, CA 91040 Just in case anyone else needs it. Damn, I'm going to have to leave around 6:45 am to make it by 8 am!!!!! :eek: :confused: Hehehe...see you guys on Sunday! :rock

Ronin R1
06-02-2003, 07:37 PM
Wow, that's gonna be a trek.

BRBJackson
06-02-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Ronin R1 Wow, that's gonna be a trek. Yeah, I know, but I figured that there would be some people coming from OXnard/Ventura, and something like Palomar would kill 'em on the drone out and back. Also, I've been this route before, and the Popo presence in the area has tended to be pretty light...

BRBJackson
06-02-2003, 07:52 PM
Anybody coming up from the south is welcome to ride there with me. We can meet right off the 405 at Cherry Ave. (Signal Hill area). Route is 405N-710N-5N-2N-210W. Off at Sunland Blvd. exit, right on Sunland, and Coco's is a couple hundred yards up on the left hand side.

Ronin R1
06-02-2003, 08:17 PM
What time are you taking off? It will take me an hour at least just going 5-CA2-210 from south OC. This would also make it hard for the San D guys to make it over 130 miles before 8AM. How about if we meet in Santa Ana? We could hold our meeting there and then split off in groups North, South, East. I don't mind the saddle time or the miles, but I would think this is a more central location that more people can get to. If nothing else you guys coming from SD or East County can crash at my place Sat. night and we'll ride out in the morning. PM me for directions.

BRBJackson
06-02-2003, 09:28 PM
I'm up for anything. We could make the meeting time later, move the spot to OC somewhere, or leave it as is. Any suggestions? Comments?

mxracer95
06-02-2003, 10:44 PM
Santa Ana is good... that's only 10 minutes away. :yesnod

R1_Demon
06-02-2003, 11:49 PM
I'd have to agree with MX too...hehehhee...Santa Ana is only like 7-10 miles (if that) from me. However, I don't mind taking the trek out to Sunland either... Whatever works for everyone. It's hard because everyone is spread out all over and sometimes you don't feel like riding forever on a freeway and the running the twisties and then riding forever back on the freeway. However, doesn't matter. I think it'll be fun either way. Whatever the concensus is, I'm sure I'll be down with that. :yesnod

CMRRA13
06-03-2003, 08:13 PM
Word of WARNING. I was at the Crest last Saturday 5/31. There was a cop up there pulling over EVRYONE! Even if you were NOT speeding he would pull you over and write you for any BS thing he could find.....aftermarket exhaust, turn signals, mirrors, lic. plates. Two guys got tickets, not for speeding....with at least 3 write ups each. He even said he would pull over EVERY bike he see's :eek: Then I went to the Rock Store and seen a couple of cops but didn't see or hear of anyone getting tickets.

R1_Demon
06-03-2003, 09:18 PM
WTF is with these guys lately? I mean, Huntington Beach police have been a$$holes lately too. THey have tagged a lot of guys for any little thing. One of our guys got nailed for not having his turn signals 9" apart. I mean, WTF is with that??? There is no statute that says the signals have to be a certain distance apart. It just states that they have to be visible as to which direction the signal is pointing/directing to. Then you have the Cerritos problem. That is a cluster ***** in itself. It's just a bunch of crap. Really is. :( Sucks that we can't go out and just enjoy our bikes. We are like the minority and getting busted for any little thing we do or not do. Sorry, I guess I'll turn off my "rant" now.

Sam56n
06-03-2003, 09:38 PM
i'm down for the meeting spot at cocos, but i'm kinda scared since my bike is really not street legal!! i guess i have to get bunch of sundays off now! meeting + vegas + laguna = fired

R1_Demon
06-04-2003, 11:47 PM
So are we still a go for Coco's or ???? I know a couple of people posted other suggestions or something so I just wanted to make sure if I should keep the directions for Coco's and the plan is still an 8 am meet time. Just makin' sure. :D :cool:

rezar1
06-05-2003, 12:12 AM
Since none of the SD guys mentioned anything about coming, I would say Cocos.

Jims2000R-1
06-05-2003, 12:39 AM
Sorry guys .... that is a little far for me ..... I will stay around the SD area ..... I will be needing new tires soon and if I attended that trip ...I would probably need then as soon as I got home. I will be riding my usual .... 76 to Palomar (fast side) off to Banner Grade and finish it up with Sunrise Hwy. Next ride ... if it is closer .. I will go. Note: I am also trying to watch for the police .... I don't need to get any more tickets or get pulled over any more. Jim

Sam56n
06-05-2003, 01:04 AM
i heard from jeremy tonight that no one is showing up on sunday, if we don't have that many peeps coming, let's do it at the rock store, if the plan stays the same, i'm still down, i'll be out late sat night, but i'll make it there sunday morning, even if i'm still a bit tipsy i'll get a hold of you by then reza adios

R1_Demon
06-05-2003, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by Jims2000R-1 Note: I am also trying to watch for the police .... I don't need to get any more tickets or get pulled over any more. Jim Ya, you don't need to get pulled over any more...hehehehe...but we're not going to go there, are we? LOL!!!! Oh ya, I should be good to go for early next week I believe...won't be working yet...

rezar1
06-05-2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Sam56n i heard from jeremy tonight that no one is showing up on sunday, if we don't have that many peeps coming, let's do it at the rock store, if the plan stays the same, i'm still down, i'll be out late sat night, but i'll make it there sunday morning, even if i'm still a bit tipsy i'll get a hold of you by then reza adios So far there is 7 of us I think. I thought there would be more since so many emailed me and told me that they would be interested in riding but I guess they changed their minds. The way I see it is that we should change locations each time like we are doing it right now. Last time it was closer to SD, this time it's closer to LA and next time (if there is one) then we can go closer to SD again so everyone can get involved. What I don't understand is that we have so many people from S.cali, specially LA area but they never respond to these things. I think they are under impression that they are too good for us.

R1_Demon
06-05-2003, 12:16 PM
Hey now...how about closer to OC? LOL Just kidding. Ya, i don't quite understand what goes on here sometimes. Seems like there are a TON of people on this forum and most say "SoCal" or something to that effect under their screen names. They all say they ride a ton or what not, but when we put together things like this...we get like 5 or 7 or something. I mean, not that it's a bad number or anything, but it would be nice to get a bigger turn out. Hell my club is a 10th of the size of this forum and we normally get about 10-14 that roll in for bike nights at Bravo every damn week... Just doesn't quite make sense to me at all. I mean Rezar is trying his a$$ off to set things up all the time and make sure everyone is notified (via post & email) but no one goes with it...like he was saying...is it a status thing? or what? I have a question...if all those people showed interest...WHY did they back out of the ride then? There has to be a reason...what is it? If it's a problem with the location or something, why don't they post up and say what's on their mind? Do they not like someone else that's going on the ride or something and backed out or what? Sorry, not trying to flame anyone (if anything, giving props to Rezar for his hard work), just trying to understand why a forum as big as this, especially in Southern California, (where you can ride all the time...well, unless it's raining like today!!!! :finger <<<----Weather) doesn't get together and do more things together or what not. Anyway...I guess that's my $0.03 (ya, thought I'd throw in that extra penny). Hehehehe..

BRBJackson
06-05-2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by R1_Demon [Ya, i don't quite understand what goes on here sometimes. Seems like there are a TON of people on this forum and most say "SoCal" or something to that effect under their screen names. They all say they ride a ton or what not, but when we put together things like this...we get like 5 or 7 or something. I mean, not that it's a bad number or anything, but it would be nice to get a bigger turn out. Hell my club is a 10th of the size of this forum and we normally get about 10-14 that roll in for bike nights at Bravo every damn week... Just doesn't quite make sense to me at all. I mean Rezar is trying his a$$ off to set things up all the time and make sure everyone is notified (via post & email) but no one goes with it...like he was saying...is it a status thing? or what? I have a question...if all those people showed interest...WHY did they back out of the ride then? There has to be a reason...what is it? If it's a problem with the location or something, why don't they post up and say what's on their mind? Do they not like someone else that's going on the ride or something and backed out or what? [/B] Well put, R1-Demon, and now I feel kinda bad for suggesting a ride thats's too far for so many. That said though, why couldn't everbody just post here with alternate suggestions? I know a few of us did, and that's most appreciated, but WTH? So here's my suggestion. If 7 or fewer people are showing up, than it'd just be a ride, not a meeting. Let's pass on this one, and start PLANNING something in early-mid July. That should give everbody achance to chime in with suggestions, and once we have enough, I'll post a poll for final voting. I wanna get this thing rolling ASAP, but having only a few of us this weekend meeting and getting their shirts, etc. just seems to distance the few from the many... I've organized groups before, and that's like rule #1 for what not to do. So what's everybody think? Those of you with e-mail adresses for squadron members, get everybody in the local area to make suggestions, and we'll vote on 'em.

R1transformer
06-05-2003, 03:16 PM
Did Someone say Palomar Mtn. I am there every Sunday, Tight side.

rezar1
06-05-2003, 03:40 PM
So, what's the final verdict on this? Are we going to ride/meet on Sunday or not?

R1_Demon
06-05-2003, 04:28 PM
Personally, I still want to go and thought that BRBJackson & Rezar's idea/location was good. So it's not right next door...that's one of the entire points or riding...to explore new areas (well, it's new to me anyway). So, I'm still in if everyone else is and was hoping to get my shirt this Sunday so I could wear it at least one of the days up in Vegas for the Convention. :) :rock I think the July thing is good too, but it really shouldn't take that long for a bunch of people to put in suggestions and/or agree on something, however, it is good cuz it's about/over a month away and gives plenty of time for debate on location or what not. I don't know the area all that well because I've only been in CA just under 2 years and only have been riding street since last Oct. So, it's very hard for me to suggest places. I'm just trying to go with everyone else's suggestions so I learn some good rides and then can suggest them again later or something. :) Anyway, I'm up for Sunday's ride, but if we're out, then we're out I guess. However, I was hoping for the ride and meeting you guys...even if it's just 6 others. Just doesn't seem like there is any comradierie (spelling, I know) here in this squadron. :( I was hoping that wasn't going to be the case, but it does seem as such (except for the select few that try to put things together). Well, maybe we'll get lucky and turn it around and make it so damn fun when we ride that people will be begging for rides. hehehe. :lol Sorry about the long posts...I just get carried away sometimes. :eek:

Borealus
06-05-2003, 05:06 PM
So were are we planing on meeting? It looks like it is still un-decided. Let me know so i can meet up with you guys. I have the inlaws in town so if nothing else i would like to meet everyone and do part of the ride with you guys. I had thought i posted in this thread but i guess i did not. Like rezar and a few of you others guys i would like to see this squad pull together. For all of you that ordered patches and stickers refer to that thread for the latest info. I never thought it would take this long to get them.

mxracer95
06-05-2003, 05:19 PM
The OC CoCo's sounds good... they have Cinnamon Roll French Toast there... mmmmmmmmm.....

quin
06-05-2003, 05:33 PM
I'm down to ride too. New user on the board.Cool?. I live in Covina--so where are you guys gonna meet? Coco's in Sunland?

Ronin R1
06-05-2003, 06:57 PM
I'm down for whatever. Like I said before, I don't mind the miles, I'll be riding anyway. I was just trying to lookout for the SD folks, but they have not posted so I guess Sunland is fine. I am also going to try to bring up one of my bro's if he is up to it. Also, I like the idea of a "floating" meeting place. It gives me an excuse to find new rides or go places I would not otherwise.

R1_Demon
06-05-2003, 07:11 PM
I agree with Ronin, I'm in and always good to find new riding spots that someone else might know and i don't. :)

CMRRA13
06-05-2003, 07:17 PM
Can't make Sunday's ride but R1MAN and myself will ride up to the Crest Saturday. We are leaving about 10AM from the Torrance/San Pedro area. If anyone is interested in joining us let me know. R1KneeDrag@yahoo.com

BRBJackson
06-05-2003, 09:49 PM
OK, I'm still in for Sunday at Coco's @ 8AM, but lets just keep this a fun ride and a small t-shirt pass-out. No squadron business this time, and my request for meeting location suggestions in July still stands. To keep the drone-home distance down, I'm also suggesting that we run Big T and Angeles Forest up, then back again instead of continuing out to Elizabeth/Hughes/Castaic (the hooters'll still be there later :yesnod ) Plus it's the best part of that ride, and we'll end up right back in Sunland for a shorter ride home... Who's in? 1) BRBJackson 2) rezar1 3) R1_Demon 4) Borealus 5) quin 6) 7) Add or subtract as appropriate, guys :thumbup

R1_Demon
06-05-2003, 09:53 PM
Works for me...I have no damn idea where the hell those places are anyway. LOL So, I'm in. :) It'll all be new for me. :yesnod

Ronin R1
06-05-2003, 10:13 PM
Who's in? 1) BRBJackson 2) rezar1 3) R1_Demon 4) Borealus 5) quin 6) Ronin R1(+ 1 maybe) 7)

Ag Surfer
06-05-2003, 10:17 PM
how you guys been? i've been busy studying so no riding for me. but i've heard that the fuzz is cracking down hard at the crest so ya'll may want to avoid it. btw - have fun in vegas and be sure to put down 20 on 22 black for me!

crash2
06-06-2003, 01:55 AM
where ever the majority decides I'm there. One thing I would suggest is that if we expect the SD guys to trek, we should do the same. ...meaning we should trek to SD area as well. I like the floating venue as well. the next meeting should be closer to SD. ie old town Temecula, Palomar, Santa Ysabel, the Hideout, et. for the Northern venue, we could meet at Newcomb's, Rock Store, etc. One place that's in the middle of all this is where the 210 and 57 meet. I don't know any good places but I'm sure there a got to be Coco's around. I would even suggest Cooke's Corner in OC as midway. There is another place in Cerritos where the Friday's/Starbucks is and it's right off the 91. ...it's right off Artesia Blvd I think it is. There is also another Starbucks with a huge parking lot and is already known as biker hangout, ...it's the one on Beach blvd near Knott's Berry Farm in Anaheim. I think we all need to agree on electing someone to make decisions. BRB is doing a good job so far. ...none, or most of us, have never met before. Once we've all met and formally organized the squadron, we can decide on who'll represent SD chapter, SFV chapter, OC chapter, etc. sound good? one good thing for us OC guys, we can easily ride to either events.

crash2
06-06-2003, 02:03 AM
how bout this... let's proceed with organizing the chapters and then we can all meet on grand meeting somewhere. So Cal is big and it will hard to organize all at once. I guess this why we haven't organized sooner. I say let's do chapters. San Fernando Valley(SFV) Chapter 1. Samson 2. 3. Orange County(OC) Chapter 1. Crash2 2. R1 demon 3. Los Angeles County(LA) Chapter 1. BRBJackson 2. 3. San Diego County(SD) Chapter 1. Jims2000R1 2. 3.

mxracer95
06-06-2003, 02:22 AM
San Fernando Valley(SFV) Chapter 1. Samson 2. 3. Orange County(OC) Chapter 1. Crash2 2. R1 demon 3. MXRacer95 Los Angeles County(LA) Chapter 1. BRBJackson 2. 3. San Diego County(SD) Chapter 1. Jims2000R1 2. 3.

XT777
06-06-2003, 08:30 AM
San Fernando Valley(SFV) Chapter 1. Samson 2. XT777 3. Orange County(OC) Chapter 1. Crash2 2. R1 demon 3. MXRacer95 Los Angeles County(LA) Chapter 1. BRBJackson 2. 3. San Diego County(SD) Chapter 1. Jims2000R1 2. 3.

rezar1
06-06-2003, 09:47 AM
I have to disagree on the whole idea of the Chapter thing. The idea of this squadron is to bring us together and not to divide us up. As you can see above, there aren't enough members to even have one chapter let alone 4. Maybe N.Cali and S.Cali Chapters but the idea of having 4 chapters with 2 members each doesn't sound right. I don't mind riding to SD and OC to meet people and I hope other's don't either. I think we should leave the whole chapter thing alone and just concentrate on organization of this group and put in more effort to make it to rides.

RLMEsq
06-06-2003, 09:57 AM
If you're looking for a meeting spot on the Angeles Crest, you might check with Todd Robinson at www.calsportbike.com . He recently opened a storefront in Wrightwood to go along with his 'net sales operation and I think he does an open house to watch WSB on Speedvision on Sundays. Todd is also the event coordinator for Pacific Track Time. On Sunday, I'm driving from NorCal to ride at Willow Springs... if I could get down sooner, I'd ride with you guys on Sunday!

XT777
06-06-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by rezar1 I have to disagree on the whole idea of the Chapter thing. The idea of this squadron is to bring us together and not to divide us up. As you can see above, there aren't enough members to even have one chapter let alone 4. Maybe N.Cali and S.Cali Chapters but the idea of having 4 chapters with 2 members each doesn't sound right. Anyone who has been reading the “Dragon Squadron” postings lately is likely aware that while we have a large number of potential members we have very low squadron activity participation. This is illustrated with the “Why is there so little participation in this squadron” post as well as the “Who is still in Dragon Squadron?” post. Now, I cannot, and will not attempt to, speak for all of the potential members of the “Dragon Squadron” but I can explain my concerns and expect that it may be somewhat representative of other’s views. The primary issues are these. Southern California is a big place. I am a very busy person. We have a lot of potential members and a lot of schedules to reconcile. I do not like driving on the freeway. When I go for a ride I want to ride hard and on the track or twisties. Now, while I am very interested in riding with other individual with similar interests and bikes I am still prone to make a cost to benefit analysis of the situation. I have very little time to waste. When I ride, I schedule it and I enjoy it. I have to make a choice. I can ride 1.5 hours down the freeway to have a cinnabun with some guys ride for a while on some unproven road, stop and have chili fries and then ride another 1.5 hours back. Or I can hop on my bike and ride ten minutes to some sick twisties and ride those until I am too hungry to concentrate. I agree with Rezar that the purpose of the squadron is to bring people together. I also agree that group meetings and rides would be enjoyable. I am very much interested in participating in these activities and would love to meet and ride with you guys. However, it is clear that there are some three to four hundred miles separating the members of this squadron. If I had nothing else to do and enjoyed riding the freeway for hours I would be at all of the meets. However, I am not blessed with a schedule that flexible or time that is that discounted. Therefore, as for me, I will only be able to attend those meets that are with in a fairly narrow radius of my residence. For this reason, it seems wise to construct smaller sub squadrons for the purpose of bringing together those members that will likely all ready be riding in the same areas just in an uncoordinated fashion. It is unsound to assume that ancillary squadrons and the primary squadron are mutually exclusive. It is possible to both ride in smaller squadrons on a more frequent basis and then get together on a larger scale periodically. The smaller groups would not be a replacement for the larger and the regional rides would not be a substitute for the periodic all squadron rides. Having said that, I will probably go riding tomorrow who else is going to be in the Malibu canyons tomorrow. Also, are there still plans to meet at a second location on the 8th? Cocos first and then a second Mexican restaurant location? When is that, as I cannot make it in the morning. XT777

quin
06-06-2003, 10:56 AM
I'm in for Sunday. That ride is going to be new for me too but I'm up for it. See you guys Sunday at Coco's in Sunland.

mxracer95
06-06-2003, 11:07 AM
I have to agree with XT777 100%. Some of the problem, and I know this by paying attention to what is in my own head, is that in this squadron we are blessed with awesome twisty roads throughout. Most of us can drive a few minutes from our house and ride some amazing roads. And we do. So why would I want to ride 1-2 hours of freeway, socialize, eat, ride for a bit, and ride 1-2 more hours of freeway when I could spend that 6-8 hours in twisties? Not to mention, most of us have our own little groups we ride with every weekend anyway, so do we break away from our groups that we tpically ride with and are comfortable with to go off on a long freeway ride to hang out with some forum members? I like the idea of the smaller "local" groups.

rezar1
06-06-2003, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by XT777 Anyone who has been reading the “Dragon Squadron” postings lately is likely aware that while we have a large number of potential members we have very low squadron activity participation. This is illustrated with the “Why is there so little participation in this squadron” post as well as the “Who is still in Dragon Squadron?” post. Now, I cannot, and will not attempt to, speak for all of the potential members of the “Dragon Squadron” but I can explain my concerns and expect that it may be somewhat representative of other’s views. The primary issues are these. Southern California is a big place. I am a very busy person. We have a lot of potential members and a lot of schedules to reconcile. I do not like driving on the freeway. When I go for a ride I want to ride hard and on the track or twisties. Now, while I am very interested in riding with other individual with similar interests and bikes I am still prone to make a cost to benefit analysis of the situation. I have very little time to waste. When I ride, I schedule it and I enjoy it. I have to make a choice. I can ride 1.5 hours down the freeway to have a cinnabun with some guys ride for a while on some unproven road, stop and have chili fries and then ride another 1.5 hours back. Or I can hop on my bike and ride ten minutes to some sick twisties and ride those until I am too hungry to concentrate. I agree with Rezar that the purpose of the squadron is to bring people together. I also agree that group meetings and rides would be enjoyable. I am very much interested in participating in these activities and would love to meet and ride with you guys. However, it is clear that there are some three to four hundred miles separating the members of this squadron. If I had nothing else to do and enjoyed riding the freeway for hours I would be at all of the meets. However, I am not blessed with a schedule that flexible or time that is that discounted. Therefore, as for me, I will only be able to attend those meets that are with in a fairly narrow radius of my residence. For this reason, it seems wise to construct smaller sub squadrons for the purpose of bringing together those members that will likely all ready be riding in the same areas just in an uncoordinated fashion. It is unsound to assume that ancillary squadrons and the primary squadron are mutually exclusive. It is possible to both ride in smaller squadrons on a more frequent basis and then get together on a larger scale periodically. The smaller groups would not be a replacement for the larger and the regional rides would not be a substitute for the periodic all squadron rides. Having said that, I will probably go riding tomorrow who else is going to be in the Malibu canyons tomorrow. Also, are there still plans to meet at a second location on the 8th? Cocos first and then a second Mexican restaurant location? When is that, as I cannot make it in the morning. XT777 It's a free country. You can do whatever you want. I don't need a squadron to ride with people. There are plenty of people to ride with in my area. The SFV Bike night is only a block away from my house and I don't need to go anywhere beyond that location to find riding buddies. The reason I started pushing everyone to get involved few weeks back and try to get everyone organized wasn't because of people going on rides. It was more about getting people together and to make new friends. From my experience, you can never have enough friends. It wasn't about riding. I saw bunch of people that have things in common such as riding the One and the Forum and thought what better way to bring them TOGETHER than start getting everyone involved in the Squadron. The way I saw it was that we can have get together such as BBQs, ride to different events and so on. It wasn't about riding 1.5 hours down the freeway to have a cinnabun with some guys and ride for a while on some unproven road, stop and have chili fries and then ride another 1.5 hours back. No one is saying that you only have to ride with the Dragons and that you can't ride with anyone else. You can do whatever you want. Now this is my opinion and no one else has to agree with it. I am just talking from experience. I have been member of other riding groups and the minute they started to divide up, the whole thing fell a part because people were too busy doing their own thing and ttrust me they were way more organized than we are. If this is what you guys want, so be it. As I mentioned, this was never about riding or going on rides. It was about getting people together and making new friends. Again, I feel that breaking the Squadron into smaller pieces will only make it weaker.

crash2
06-06-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by rezar1 If this is what you guys want, so be it. As I mentioned, this was never about riding or going on rides. It was about getting people together and making new friends. Again, I feel that breaking the Squadron into smaller pieces will only make it weaker. ...I just want to say that the idea of chapters was nothing more than 'baby steps' to get to the ultimate goal or having an organized squardron. Let's get it started and then let's worry about getting everyone together later:yesnod

rezar1
06-06-2003, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by crash2 Let's get it started and then let's worry about getting everyone together later:yesnod It already has started.

R1_Demon
06-06-2003, 12:08 PM
I'd have to agree with Rezar on this one. Just my personal feelings. I was hoping to meet up with some (all actually) of you guys so that this way at any time later, I could call you up or email you and we could get together to ride later. It wasn't/isn't all about just going on rides and such. I agree that you can never have too many friends. Yes, I do ride with my other club during the week and almost every single weekend. However, I still would like to meet the members of this forum (especially the Dragon squadron) and be able to hang out and chat and get to know everyone. I just think that is cool. That is the main reason I'm going to Vegas for the convention. I think it's a cool "get together" of the entire R1 Forum. Is it about the ride? hell no. Why would I take my bike 300 some miles up to a heat soaked state that is going to exhaust us when we ride during the day? I can ride 6 miles from my house and get some good riding in. NO, I'm going because of MEETING everyone and think it would be cool since most of us post and talk to these people on a daily basis here. Again, these are just my opinions and opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one. But I'm just saying that I'm afraid that we're all going to bust apart and this will be nothing more than just talk here if we separate. I understand about riding with your friends/groups locally. Hell, I do it with my club...BUT, I'm still willing to go for a little ride up/down the coast to meet with everyone to hang out. That's why I'm still going this Sunday. I think it would be great to meet everyone and such. Freeways??? I hate freeways too...kills my neck and shoulders...however, I'm still willing to deal with it just to be able to meet new guys and go on new adventures that I have never been on before. That's part of the main point of riding...exploring, no? Well, I guess it is just me because I'm not a "stunter", nor am I a "track only guy". So, I just ride for fun and to me it's more fun meeting guys and eventually riding with them than not expanding my horizons to new encounters and staying in my own "local" area all the time. Ok, I think that's enough jibberish for now. LOL Regards...

Sam56n
06-06-2003, 12:22 PM
SO sorry Reza but i couldn't get sunday off (since i'm getting the next weekend off) we will be riding the mullholland canys on saturday if you guys are interested, by the way, i reall yneed to talk wiht you about vegas, i booked a room already and am just seeing whether i should look for a trailer or not, the # you gave me was wrong (i i wrote it down that way) so give me a call, i should be in work tonight till 9, you can stop by there if you want (Q market) adios sam

XT777
06-06-2003, 03:56 PM
>- 2nd meeting at Country Girl bar in Castaic. New barmaid there with big hooters , plus cheap beer... uh, soda - Lunch at the Mexican restaurant down the street from Country Girl <

R1_Demon
06-06-2003, 05:58 PM
Nope...to my knowledge in earlier posts we were cutting off those last 2 parts from the trip. We were just taking the first two parts, turning around and coming back down the first two parts of the trip. At least, that's what I read in this post somewheres... :confused:

mxracer95
06-06-2003, 06:04 PM
Well I thought we were meeting at CoCo's in Santa Ana.

R1_Demon
06-06-2003, 06:10 PM
:confused: When was that posted? I must have missed that one...I always thought it was still out at Coco's in Sunland???? :confused:

mxracer95
06-06-2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Ronin R1 What time are you taking off? It will take me an hour at least just going 5-CA2-210 from south OC. This would also make it hard for the San D guys to make it over 130 miles before 8AM. How about if we meet in Santa Ana? We could hold our meeting there and then split off in groups North, South, East. I don't mind the saddle time or the miles, but I would think this is a more central location that more people can get to. If nothing else you guys coming from SD or East County can crash at my place Sat. night and we'll ride out in the morning. PM me for directions. I don't really care, but if we met in Santa Ana my roommate would bring his R6 out and at least have breakfast with us. ;)

BRBJackson
06-07-2003, 12:11 AM
Wow, is this getting disjointed :confused: Bottom line: I'm blowing off a bunch of other stuff Sunday morning to head out to the Coco's in SUNLAND at 8AM. PLEASE tell me more than a few people are showing up. These are great roads... much less traveled (and patrolled) than the Crest or Mulholland. It'd be great to meet a bunch of you guys :hellobye

R1_Demon
06-07-2003, 12:54 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm still stickin' to the fact I'll be there unless someone calls it off.

rezar1
06-07-2003, 12:57 AM
I am going to be there. Cocos in Sunland between 8-9.

mxracer95
06-07-2003, 01:15 AM
i'll be there.

BRBJackson
06-07-2003, 08:18 AM
Alright then. See you guys there. Just for fun, let's try this list a 3rd time, tho, just so we don't leave anybody behind :confused: Coco's, Sunland Blvd, 8AM Sunday 6/8/03 1) BRBJackson 2) rezar1 3) mxracer95 4)

BRBJackson
06-07-2003, 10:50 AM
BTW is anyone bringing a Chatterbox GMRS-X1? Haven't had a chance to use mine yet.

R1_Demon
06-07-2003, 11:09 AM
1) BRBJackson 2) rezar1 3) mxracer95 4) R1_Demon Nope, I won't have my Chatterbox I ordered till probably the end of the week. Hoping all my goodies come in prior to Friday so I can put them on to take to Vegas. :D

mxracer95
06-07-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by BRBJackson BTW is anyone bringing a Chatterbox GMRS-X1? Haven't had a chance to use mine yet. :hellobye

Ronin R1
06-07-2003, 05:06 PM
I'll see you there, my chatterbox hasn't been working.

R1_Demon
06-07-2003, 06:27 PM
Hey Ronin... You do know you have to charge the battery for it to work, don't you? hehehehe :p :lol Just kiddin' man. Cya tomorrow... Mat

Ronin R1
06-07-2003, 09:23 PM
It has a battery??:confused: :lol :lol :lol Yeah I know, thing still not transmitting.

R1_Demon
06-07-2003, 10:53 PM
:p Hehehe...well, I can always bring something with me to fix it tomorrow...it always works (read: a hammer) LOL!!! :crash Does it not transmit when you use the push to talk button or just the VOX (voice activation) part doesn't work? Maybe we can try to fix it (well, seriously, not with the hammer) tomorrow or something. If not, we'll at least have a few bikes to run it over with. Hehehe... I've learned that all you need are 3 things to fix anything in this world....a hammer, a screwdriver and a roll of 100 mph tape (duct tape will work if need be). Hehehehe... :crash

mxracer95
06-08-2003, 01:07 AM
Chatterboxes are kinda touchy. I assume you have unplugged your earphones/mic connector and plugged it back it, right? A few times I've had mine not transmit and unplug and plug it back it fixes it. Also, check for a bent pin on the plug. I've seen a few guys bend a pin, it's easy to do. As for 8AM in Sunland, it might be a little damp. It's midnight here in OC and it's misty outside. If the streets are wet when I get up, I'm not leaving until they're dry. Can't go out and have fun on wet roads.

Sam56n
06-08-2003, 01:41 AM
We went and rode big tujunga today, it was wicked, compared to the crappy morning clouds of this morning, the crest was great, except my buddy got pulled over by a cop, we were both doing a wheely, i put mine down, and watched this jek off cop zoom pass me to pull my friend over, he got a reckless driving misdaminer ticket anywhoo, have fun tomorrow guys, i'll be at work thinking about riding!!!

mxracer95
06-08-2003, 01:49 AM
Who got the ticket?

BRBJackson
06-08-2003, 07:41 AM
mxracer, it's 6:38 here in Long Beach, and other than it being overcast (normal for the LBC in June), the world looks fine. Weather.com calls for 60/75 degrees in Sunland, with AM clouds (good so the sun isn't blinding you on the way up Big T) and PM sun. Let's RIDE!

R1_Demon
06-08-2003, 07:55 AM
I'm down in Mission Viejo and it's still misting here. Been kind of misting/raining since 2 am. However, I'm hoping it's better "out there", so I'm going to take a chance and leave. It's almost 7 am anyway, so I have to jet to make it there around 8 am. I just wanted to check in to make sure it wasn't canceled or anything prior to leaving. Cya guys in a few

BRBJackson
06-08-2003, 04:03 PM
Great ride guys :hellobye save for the popo presence, that is :butt Hey, did anybody get Melanie's digits? Gotta get her riding with us again :D Looks like we've got the makings of a cool SoCal section of the Dragon squadron ...

R1_Demon
06-08-2003, 04:59 PM
Yup...awesome ride... Even barring the ticket. Which I did just read and it's a "fix-it" ticket. So, I'll just slap some reflectors and reflective red tape back there, get the local dept. to sign off on it and then send that info to the Pasadena court and I should be good to go. I'm going to try and take care of it tomorrow or Tue at the latest. This way it's all done prior to Vegas. :) However, all in all, I had a great time and it was awesome meeting you guys. Would love to ride again. I had a great time and everyone was really cool. I was going to ask Melanie for her number, but figured she might not have liked that or something...so I didn't. :( However, hopefully she rides with us again...was a very nice lady...not to mention very nice to look at. ;) At least to me anyway! :D Anyway, thanks again guys for all of you setting it up. For those of you that didn't go...you missed a hell of a ride. 252 miles round trip for me. :yesnod Was worth it!

rezar1
06-08-2003, 05:05 PM
It was a really nice ride. Thanks to BRB for leading us through some nice roads. Hopefully we can do it again once we come back from Vegas. As for Melanie's info, I got ger # and email and I will add her to the list and whenever we go on a ride, hopefully she can make it.

Ronin R1
06-08-2003, 05:15 PM
I think Ray (Rezar1) got her info. I think we all had a good time. Hopefully next time we can just ride without any incidents. I'll post up a time and place for next month's ride.

RacinJason
06-08-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by rezar1 Can you guys come up with some recommendations for a meeting spot for June 8th. The last meeting spot was cool but there wasn't anywhere special to ride to that was near to the location. The only places I can thing is around the Malibu/Rockstore area and the Crest. Any other suggestions? Hey I just wanted to let you know im interested in doing some rides with you guys and I have more riders who are cool to ride with . I will not be riding for a couple of week due to my g/f crashing the other day she is all broken up her leg broke and was facing the wrong way . When I have her eating solid foods again im going to be riding . I have 3 other riders who will want to go also I will get back to you on that later . I work with large rallys with 300+ riders for vespa rallys and they all have bikes from rds rz350 and 500 to r1's and r6's most of them are collectors and racers. I will let them in on some so cal rides if you want but some times smaller rides are cool so you can go fast and never have to wait up for people. A cool ride might be to set up a track day with a list of riders who want to go. Then get a chase truck with gas and equipment tent and everything and have a ride to willow springs for a track day / BBQ . For those kind of events if you make them big you can get sponsors and have givaways and stuff . Email me at ampunk4u@earthlink.net

R1_Demon
06-08-2003, 06:11 PM
:eek: :cool: Ohhhh, so Rezar was the slick one to make the move, eh? hehehehe... :p :rock Hehehe...seriously though...it really was a great time and I'd ride with you guys/girls (if Melanie gets on the board to read this) anytime. Was a great time. Liked that everyone eventually stopped for us riders that were a little further behind and such. That was cool. That's what I look for in a group because I'm no way as fast as you guys. As soon as I get a damn job again, it looks like my next mod will be the Sportecs...thanks for the info guys...but now i'm paranoid as hell to take turns after hearing the factory Dunlop stories. :machinegu Dunlop Hehehhee..

RacinJason
06-08-2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by R1_Demon :eek: :cool: Ohhhh, so Rezar was the slick one to make the move, eh? hehehehe... :p :rock Hehehe...seriously though...it really was a great time and I'd ride with you guys/girls (if Melanie gets on the board to read this) anytime. Was a great time. Liked that everyone eventually stopped for us riders that were a little further behind and such. That was cool. That's what I look for in a group because I'm no way as fast as you guys. As soon as I get a damn job again, it looks like my next mod will be the Sportecs...thanks for the info guys...but now i'm paranoid as hell to take turns after hearing the factory Dunlop stories. :machinegu Dunlop Hehehhee.. Hey you live close to me I live in anaheim/orange Yeah the factory tires suck . I bet i have seen you riding around here . My bike is blue and im in orange a lot in the circle and on tustin and around there a lot . When its time for tires go to www.discountmotorcycletires.com Or I have a sponsor / shop who I might get a group deal with for locals around here. I need tires soon also.

R1_Demon
06-08-2003, 07:18 PM
Hey there...you might have seen me around..I don't know. I'm usually up in Tustin Marketplace a lot cuz my club is based up there that I'm in. If I'm not there, I'm usually around Mission Viejo/Irvine area... I haven't seen any other red R1's around here and if you saw my windscreen...you'd know it's me. Just ask the guys from the ride today. hehehehe... I'll let ya know about the tires and thanks for the tip. Right now i have to hold off cuz I have no extra money any longer. :(

Ronin R1
06-08-2003, 08:36 PM
I'm gonna need tires soon as well. Two sets.

mxracer95
06-08-2003, 09:10 PM
Hey guys. Sorry I missed you. Had a late night with my b-day party and didn't get out the door until 9:15. Go tot CoCo's at 9:55 and you were gone. So I headed up anyway, knowing basically the area you were going, hoping to find you. After checking a couple roads on my way up Angeles Forrest, I was about 12 miles or so from the 14 freeway and around the corner comes Johnny Law. Got me going 66 in a 55 (Woo Hoo.. that's just SOOOO fast). But he was cool. Said to find something on the bike I could easily fix and he'd write me for that instead of speeding. I asked for his suggestion, he said "no rear red reflector." So I said "Sounds good to me." We got to talking and he said you guys were just about 3 miles up under the big tree. So he hurried and got me on my way and I headed up... but you were gone. Sounds like after he got you guys he came around the bend and got me. LOL He rides a 929 (or 954) so he was really cool. Although I think it's stupid pulling someone over for 66 in a 55. Oh well. How did he get you guys? Were you screwing around at the play spot there by the tree? ;) Couldn't find where you went from there, so I hung out for a while and then headed out to the Rock Store area. It was a beautiful day out there. Wish I had caught up with you guys. Oh well. Next time.

Ronin R1
06-08-2003, 09:29 PM
:lol :lol :lol Sorry man, you were just a step behind us the whole time. If you hadn't been busted you would have probably caught us under the tree. BTW, the "no rear reflector" is the same thing he got R1_Demon for. He must be on a quota. Anyway, we'll see you Friday. I will probably take you up on the offer to share the room. Let me know how much.

BRBJackson
06-08-2003, 10:01 PM
As soon as I get a damn job again, it looks like my next mod will be the Sportecs...thanks for the info guys...but now i'm paranoid as hell to take turns after hearing the factory Dunlop stories. Bro, great meeting and riding with you (and all the other cool R1-Forum folks) today. Listen, I've got a front Sportec M1 in my garage with probably a couple thou miles on it. Took it off when I switched to the Diablos, but it's in beautiful shape. If it helps you get tires on your baby faster, the sucker's yours :fact Let me know.

R1_Demon
06-08-2003, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by BRBJackson Bro, great meeting and riding with you (and all the other cool R1-Forum folks) today. Listen, I've got a front Sportec M1 in my garage with probably a couple thou miles on it. Took it off when I switched to the Diablos, but it's in beautiful shape. If it helps you get tires on your baby faster, the sucker's yours :fact Let me know. :eek: Let me know how much you want for it and I'll see what funds I can squeeze out of myself. hehehe.. :rock I wouldn't mind trying it out so this way that should carry me over and I can get whole new set fairly soon. Anyone know how much it usually costs to have a tire mounted? Eh...I don't know...maybe I should wait cuz I'd have to have the entire set anyway, right? Not good to run a Sportec in the front and the stock Dunlop in the rear, right? I think one of my members said they got a complete set for $220 or something...maybe I can get that somehow. hehehe... It was great meeting you too and the other guys/gals. I had a blast...really did. :) Hope to do it again soon. Cya, Mat PS MXRacer - We weren't doing anything wrong when I got pulled over actually. I was doing 45 in a 55!!!! He was sitting behind a bend/rock when we came around and then pulled in behind me (maybe heard my exhaust is the only thing I can think of). He then pulled me over down the road and told me he was pulling me over for "modified exhaust" and "no rear red reflector". He was decent and asked me to pick which one I wanted to get written up for. It HAD to be the same guy you got tagged by too. I took the reflector too. hehehehe.. I vote today is "National Non-red reflector Day" in CA. LOL :lol

BRBJackson
06-08-2003, 11:01 PM
Mat, I think you might've misunderstood. It's YOUR's, as in gratis, free, nada, keep it for when you can afford the rear, etc. Also, it's much cheaper to get tires changed if you take the wheels off yourself, so if you need a hand, I've got all the tools in my garage... should only be ~$20 apiece at the shop if you bring 'em just the wheels. Cheers, Bill

Ronin R1
06-08-2003, 11:09 PM
Let me know when you get your tires and I'll change them for you for $10 a tire. It won't be anytime soon though. I will be out of town for the next few days and then it's Vegas Baby!

R1_Demon
06-08-2003, 11:12 PM
Hey Bill, That'll work!!! Thanks tons....just tell me when I'd have to get it. I'll have to take my truck up to wherever to get it. :) But I do appreciate it. :) I won't have a problem taking the rims/tires off. No worries there...but I will have to get a front stand to do the front. My rear stand is in route, so no worries there. Last time I took the front off my Katana, I actually used my truck jack to jack it up from underneath (without the fairing of course) and that's how I took it off before. So, if it absolutely comes down to it, I can do that...but I think one of my friends has a front stand, but for a Suzuki...then again, if I get the cash rollin' again, I'll just buy a front stand. My Yamaha rear stand is on order...won't be in until July...UGGHHHH.. LOL :bash Ronin (Alex, right? Sorry, trying to remember everyone's name from today!) No worries...I wouldn't be able to do it until after Vegas anyway. Even if I just have to buy the rear...it won't be till the end of the month...hopefully sooner if I can get a damn job by then! I hate unemployment...sucks. But that's an entirely different issue :no :mad:

Jims2000R-1
06-08-2003, 11:24 PM
Matt, you can get a rear tire .... M1 for 123.00 for a 190. If you take the tire off yourself ... it cost 20.00 to change it out. Once you change the rear out ..... you will be amazed at how nice they feel. Every time I put on a new rear tire .... The first 1000 or so miles you are grinning ear to ear .... all you have to do is look at a turn and you are railing it. You will go through those tire fast though .... 3000 miles or so and ...... time for a new one. I have went through three rear tires this year so far .... soon I will need a new one ...... probably after tuesdays ride. I buy my tires from www.parts411.com .... they are in San Dimas ... which is on my way to school. If you were to buy one, I could stop by and pick it up for ya. See ya tuesday. Jim

mxracer95
06-08-2003, 11:34 PM
<--- Very happy with 208 ZR's and they get great mileage (for a sticky sport tire).

R1_Demon
06-08-2003, 11:38 PM
Hmmm..I might be able to try and find $143.00 lying around somewheres.... (tire & mount) Hehehe...I'll let ya know if I do that Jim. I appreciate it. Right now I'll just have to wait and see. I mean I want to do it, but no cash right now. :( But I appreciate everyone's help and info though!!!!