Engine Ice

I put in Engine Ice just last weekend (After a full radiator flush) So far, results seem to be good, it takes a bit longer for the temps to go up. I am seeing about a 10-15 degree difference overall. Normal cruising temp is about 160 degrees instead of the normal 174-178. The good thing is that sitting in traffic, My engine temps would usually clip 200 degrees, but since engine ice went in, I haven't gone above 194. Most riding conditions, my fan hasn't had to come on at all. So far I'm happy. I'll have to beat on the bike a bit more to see if I can coax the engine temp up to 200 degrees. JUST FOR REFERENCE: I have a 2002 R1 w/ full Hindle Racing exhaust (high mount). I am Buffalo N.Y., where summer is..... well, not quite summer if you've lived in warmer climates. I don't think we've had temps higher that 82 degrees all summer so far.

Wow, thats cool! (no pun intended) Just think, if you would have used Prestone Low Tox coolant, you could have found the same results and saved a bit of cash!! Engine Ice is a scam to get you to pay top dollar for a simple concoction of low-cost, readily-available coolant.

Right! and that's why there's 4 patents pending on it!! All smoke and mirrors!! (you don't know what you're talking about)

Originally posted by EngIcedave Right! and that's why there's 4 patents pending on it!! All smoke and mirrors!! (you don't know what you're talking about) :lol This guy is cool shit. He answered some questions in another thread and spoke highly and respectfully of Redline's Water Wetter (probably his closest competitor). Only after I asked him to explain the differences between his product and Evan's Coolant (another competitor), did he reluctantly promote his own product with some facts. Simply put, Engine Ice promotes transfer of heat out of your system while still providing lubricants that Water Wetter does not do as well. It's not that expensive - spend the extra 10 bucks to fill your bike. Additionally, Engine Ice and Water Wetter are track friendly products while regular automotive antifreeze/coolants usually are not.

Fact: EngineIceDave is a salesman, a smooth salesman. I wont argue that one with you, extreme1rider. Fact: the components of Engine Ice are a simple concoction. The key ingredients are Propylene Glycol and Di water, with a few other things mixed in. Dave has just been able to patent his specific concoction and sell it for much more than it truly costs. Funny thing is, this "magic" di water looses much of its' primary attributes the moment it leaves the sealed bottle and enters the bike. Fact: I know hundreds of other riders, and myself, who have tested both Dave's concoction against Prestone Low Tox and came up with extremely similar cooling and corrosion-resistant results. Also have had no water-pump failures. Fact: Your cooling system will only work as well as it can transfer the heat. Transferring of the heat from the engine to any coolant is not a problem in most modern systems. It is usually the transfer of heat from the radiator to the air that is the primary road block. Think of it this way; you dont see the Factory racers use some fancy coolant concoction when they need better cooling properties, they usually just make the radiator either bigger or add another row of cores to the current one. I guess if you have the money to burn, go right ahead and use the stuff. But to tell people that this stuff is some magic concoction that cant easily be duplicated is nothing but selling SNAKE OIL!!

it's ten dollars if it works put it in you payed 10k for the bike are you that cheap?????

I have 5 different bikes right now, and change my coolant in each at least once a year. That is enough savings to pay for a good track day or two (which are much more effective in making me a faster rider than Engine Ice is). Besides, my current R1 only cost me $400 and another $2600 to fix her up. Now you know why I have 5 bikes... :)

And a large over-sized radiator costs how much? Engine Ice's price is only a couple dollars (maybe 2 or 3) greater than our motorcycle specific competitors such as Maxima, Spectro, Honda Pro-Cool and the like. If you want to buy Prestone, please go right ahead. Just tell me what Prestone has done to help your sport and hobby lately? What races, racers, events and teams do they support in any form or motorcycling? Also, if you think PG is "cheap," why does you gallon of Prestone Low-Tox cost 3x to 4x more that standard EG antifreeze's?? PG costs a LOT more to manufacture

I live in FL and have been using engine ice for years in MX Bikes, Quads, and streetbikes. The bottom line is that it works! To pay a couple of bucks extra for proven results is well worth it in my opinion. Now, if we are talking about scams, how many high dollar aftermarket components claim performance gains only to be proven wrong on the dyno etc. If you don't like it or you don't think it is worth it, then don't use it. Also Dave makes a good point, in what ways do his competitors support our sport? Take a look at their website and you will see that even for a small company they offer significant rider support in all areas of motorcycling.

Question--When you guys flush your coolant system--do you use a hose or just pour distilled water into the radiator? I changed my coolant out a few weeks ago and I popped the radiator cap to find little black particles floating around in it. I did'nt flush the system-I just drained it and filled it.-Help!!

Cut and paste from the Engine Ice website FAQ ----------------------------------------------------------- Most every coolant product will work best when changed somewhat regularly…at minimum, we’d recommend once a year. For racing applications, we actually recommend twice per year. The cleaner you can keep your cooling system and the fresher you can keep a fluid, the better it will perform. There are no special requirements for using Engine Ice. For any coolant and anytime you are changing coolant, we recommend a simple solution of distilled water and white distilled vinegar, both available at your local grocery store. 1. Mix the water/vinegar at 50/50 2. Fill system with the solution 3. Run engine until warm 4. Let cool 5. Drain 6. Run clear water through to rinse out vinegar. 7. Fill with coolant of choice. This is the same as cleaning your coffee maker. The vinegar is acidic enough to clean out and contaminants and residual coolants, yet it won’t harm your seals and gaskets.

Are the corrosion preventitive properties as good as "regular" coolant, or better for aluminum radiators? If not, I am staying away.

Sorry for the delay in my reply, I was at the Loretta Lynn's AMA Amateur Motocross National Championships Corrosion is not an issue. We are required by law to have the product tested by the State of Florida for corrosion as well as freeze and boil points. Engine Ice meets or exceeds all ASTM and SAE standards required for all antifreeze/coolant products.

Originally posted by Wrench Fact: EngineIceDave is a salesman, a smooth salesman. I wont argue that one with you, extreme1rider. Fact: the components of Engine Ice are a simple concoction. The key ingredients are Propylene Glycol and Di water, with a few other things mixed in. Dave has just been able to patent his specific concoction and sell it for much more than it truly costs. Funny thing is, this "magic" di water looses much of its' primary attributes the moment it leaves the sealed bottle and enters the bike. Fact: I know hundreds of other riders, and myself, who have tested both Dave's concoction against Prestone Low Tox and came up with extremely similar cooling and corrosion-resistant results. Also have had no water-pump failures. Fact: Your cooling system will only work as well as it can transfer the heat. Transferring of the heat from the engine to any coolant is not a problem in most modern systems. It is usually the transfer of heat from the radiator to the air that is the primary road block. Think of it this way; you dont see the Factory racers use some fancy coolant concoction when they need better cooling properties, they usually just make the radiator either bigger or add another row of cores to the current one. I guess if you have the money to burn, go right ahead and use the stuff. But to tell people that this stuff is some magic concoction that cant easily be duplicated is nothing but selling SNAKE OIL!! and what did your tests consist of????????

Engine Ice WORKS!:hellobye :beer :beer :beer :beer :beer

(distilled) Water is actually the best coolant. Only caveat is for cold weather riders...you must add an anti-freeze of some type.

If anyone plans on doing a NESBA trackday, they don't allow Engine Ice.