Lidar detectors and police.... read this!

idroppedit
10-12-2003, 07:04 AM
This is a jpg of a courier mail article. Everyone should read this!

Petrol_Spice
10-12-2003, 06:45 PM
What day did it come from

Robert Z.
10-12-2003, 07:06 PM
I had a BM-10+ on my R1: NO LEASER TICKETS EVER! PS: Because it is not a radar jammer, (if they catch you the max. you can get is like a parking ticket). See: http://www.1-radar-laser-jammers-detectors.com/laser-jammer.html The M20, M30 and M40 X-Treme products even more effective than our #1 rated Blinder M10+. It has plug in modules using common telephone jacks. It is water and humidity resistant. It does not false alert when driving into the sun. The M20 has plug in expandability, so that if you want to go to 4 laser jammers, just buy the additional laser modules and plug them in. Competitive laser jammers are not water resistant, so if a competitive laser jammer (Escort, K40 or Bel-tronics) were to go through a car wash or rain storm, it will false alert constantly until it dries out. Competitive laser jammers also have the weakness of false alerting when driving into the morning and evening sun.

Petrol_Spice
10-12-2003, 09:04 PM
Those things are Mucho Grande Illegal over here.

Robert Z.
10-13-2003, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Petrol_spice Those things are Mucho Grande Illegal over here. How the F-uk they would find it!?? The way to use it to see the alarm that come on when they track you (it also jammes at the same time) slow down to speed limit and swich it off!!! WORKED FOR ME ALL THE TIME!! (Theyalso hard to see -picks-)

Monoman
10-14-2003, 12:54 PM
You too can dodge the long laser of the law Scott Cooper 09oct03 On September 5, I took a laser gun speeding fine to court and won. What made it even more remarkable was that I represented myself, without relying on expert witnesses or technicalities. The story quickly got out that at last someone had done the unthinkable and beaten the dreaded laser gun, and the story was retold on national television. As the television reporter said that night, the repercussions have become enormous. Besieged by callers telling of their own suspect bookings at the hands of the laser gun and other speed detection devices, I found myself helping people through the muddying of the waters that occurs once an infringement notice is issued. After the first 500 calls it became clear that people have absolutely no idea of their civil rights once they are pulled over for speeding. My journey into this world of smoke and mirrors began 2½ years ago, when I was pulled up and booked on a double points weekend in the NSW city of Coffs Harbour by the mobile radar. Incensed at the unfairness of that infringement notice, I elected to fight the matter in court, defended myself and – like this latest case against the laser gun – I won. Being ex-military intelligence, I did my homework, employed commonsense, sniffed out the inadequacies of the police and their so-called hi-tech equipment and studied carefully the common reasons people had not been successful contesting these fines – whether represented by the legal fraternity or not. I also found that some damaging evidence comes from the police themselves once they are put under oath in a witness box, and the "error" or operational facts that come straight from the operations manuals of these devices. In the case of the police laser gun, the ability to centre and lock accurately on a moving target with a handheld pistol-like device at any range over 70m doesn't just enter the realms of improbability, it actually is humanly impossible. We all know that the very first question the police are going to ask when they pull us over – and they have some very cute ways of asking the same thing – is "Why were you speeding?" We usually blurt out some excuse that starts off with "I'm sorry officer, I wasn't watching my speed", or some such lame explanation. That is mistake No. 1. The reason police ask you why you were speeding is to trap you. As soon as you admit to speeding, whether it be 1km over the limit or 50, there is absolutely no point in getting angry about it later and taking it to court. As soon as the case starts the police prosecutor will stand up, produce either a taped transcript of you admitting to speeding or a written one from the officer who has booked you, and the magistrate has no option but to find you guilty. Police also rely on our apathy. They rely on us paying the infringement notice because we are all busy people and won't take the time to defend it in court. The motoring population of this country have to realise that when the police pull you over for speeding you are under no obligation to answer their loaded questions. You are not under arrest, and the tactic could be seen as questionable. Tell them nothing if you suspect that you were not doing the speed they say you were. Just say "No comment, officer" or deny you were speeding. The stark reality is that if we continue to be apathetic and let this disgrace continue in the name of reducing the road toll, then we have become a nation of whingers not game enough to do anything about a system of Big Brother that is relieving our pockets of more than $400 million a year and infringing our civil rights by not allowing us time to think about the booking. You should take the 28 days the infringement notice says you have to make up your minds as to whether you want to defend the matter. The reality of all these speed detection devices is that they not only are making us go against the most fundamental rule of good driving and accident prevention – and that is to keep your eyes on the road at all times – they actually are forcing us to be watching the speedo far too much for fear of going through one of these dreaded devices. Worst of all, they are an erosion of our civil rights and freedom when combined with the way the police knowingly try to trap us into admitting we have been guilty of that most heinous of crimes: speeding. One other citizen has since stood up; his question to the rest of this supposed democracy is: Who will join him? • Scott Cooper is a Sunshine Coast businessman

blur1
10-15-2003, 01:57 AM
a big AMEN to the obove!:bow :iamwithst :yesnod :yesnod