How to do rolling stoppies??

How do I learn rollin' stoppie (I can come to stop and lift the rear---but I can't come to a rolling stop)????

lots of speed and guts. make sure the asphalt aswell as your front tire is sticky. Then you can just press harder and harder and eventually you'll find yourself in a rolling stoppie.

Yelp, it's usually best to do it on Concrete or fresh (less than 2yrs) asphalt. Start with speeds of 10 to 15 and gently pull in the front brake while lifting your ass off the seat! Squeeze the tank with your thighs. Just parctice doing this and you'll be a pro doing one handers in no time. If your serious about it, get ya a dunlop slick, alot of people will have different opinions but I find they work the best. Let us know how it comes.

If you do it like Swedie said, you're in business. If you grab a fist-full-of-brakes, you're in trouble. The key is speed. Rolling stoppies are easier to control the faster you are going.

This is how I do rolling stoppies. You will need a good front tire. i don't care who makes it as long as it sticks. It needs to have the proper air pressure in it, and you need to have forks in good working order. Also note this will wear on your steering head bearings, and make a not to lovely noise when the rear tire hits the ground if you still have the bike in gear. It makes less noise if the bike is in neutral. Start out at whatever speed you like, keeping in mind the faster you go the less of a rush you will be in as you have more speed, and hence more time to work with. What you want to do is to get the rear off of the ground without shocking the front tire. You want to get your speed to whatever you want it, pull in the clutch and down shift to first, then squeeze the brake lever. you want to feel the bike's nose dive. It should dive smoothly, not all at once. Keep in mind you do NOT want to shock the front tire, you want to transfer the weight of the bike onto the tire smoothly. when the front end is dived down you will want to roll into the brake lever. When I say "roll into" I am meaning to squeeze on the lever progressivly harder and quicker. You will feel the rear end lift. Then it's time to smile. It is easiest to do at about 40mph or so. At that speed you have enough time to transfer the weight to the front tire with out scrubbing of so much speed you have nothing left to lift the bike with. Best bet is to pratice it several times soft and easy. It is more important to be smooth on the brake lever than anything else. A quick grab at the lever when the tire is warm will usually get the rear end up, but it will be much harder to controll / ride out. Make sure you are forward on the seat, and your crotch is up against the tank. Once you get the smooth brake lever thing figured out you can add speed and rear tire height to it and ride them for longer. I will warn you though if you get it up too high while going fast (over 40mph) the front tire will try to tank slap and thats a bad thing. If you started a stoppie out at 80mph then the rear tire would not be coming off of the ground until about 65mph, you see what I am saying. make sure you are transfering the weight onto the front tire smoothly. It is much easier to controll that way, and you can work you way up to better and better stoppies with less fears of crashing. Be forwarned, sometimes the tire will lock up on you. Sometimes even after the rear tire is off of the ground. It is no big deal just roll off of the brake lever. Smoothly. If you drop the brake lever and tense up you will cause yourself problems.

I was always told to preload the front a bit, i.e slow down a bit to ease weight forward, then give it a good firm pull on the brake, careful not to lock it up.

Just like this! :rock http://cg.expocard.com/cg156/chad6.jpg

Show off!:rock :lol

Not quite to that height on my stoppies yet, but getting closer. Need to get the camera out and see how high I'm getting.:rock

Hello guys and girls ! I´m from Germany and i found your funny forum this weekend. I want to post a picture from my stoppie:D . I don´t know how to do this. Please help :eek: :eek: :eek: !!!

In the Reply section go to 'attach file'. Browse your computer til you find the file and then hit 'okay'. Then Submit. If you preview reply it will toss out the attachment so you will have to do it again. Hope this helps and welcome to the board. ;)

Thanks to joemt Here my little stoppie from Bavaria:

http://12.153.50.20/smilies/Mexicanwave.gif I think mine is higher!! Just Kidding!! Nice stoppie, you get them to roll at that height?

No, I almost stop the bike. I think it´s one of the funniest thing you can do with your bike but it´s not so good for the (I don´t know the english word for "Lager") ;) ...

I loooovvvvveeeee endos. All variations, I will send some sweet pics of some feet over and one handers on Monday. Anyways, I skimmed through some of the others advice, my only additions would be to squeeze the tank with your legs. This will come in handy when doing high speed (80-120 mph) endos. You really need to get that weight of the handle bars when you are going to fast. It also helps when you start doing one handers and cross over one handers. Just my 2 cents.

Oh my god. It´s really very hard to understand that difficult english posts. (Just for me, because my english is not perfect like yours). Especially some "nickname" like "endos" and so on... So, did you (NCLunatixR1) send me some eMail with attachement? Onkel

"Endos" are to BMXs (a bicycle used for doing stunts on) what "stoppies" are to motorcycles. Just different jargon... same thing though :) Hope that clears it up :thumbup

I have my preload set s little heavier than stock I weight 230 and have suspension set stiffer for the twisties. DO I want to lighten the preload off the forks to help transfer weight. My tire likes to skid more than any thing. Sometimes I get lucky and pull of a nice one. The other night a lady asked me if I was all right after doing a rolling stopie she though I did not intend to lift the tire.:jump

@SpdKlzU Thanks This is a really nice forum but very hard to understand even 50 % of it. (for me) bye

OK, for people having trouble understanding. A stoppie is when you are at a complete stop and then the rear tire lifts off the ground. This is very sketchy and not a good thing to try. Usually a stoppie happens when you are not going fast enough. 25 MPH or less. An endo is when you get the rear tire in the air and it rolls. This takes some practice. Here are some pointers. Pratice.....ride at 45 mph and then pull your front brake and front brake only very hard. Odds are you won't flip over. You will just stop very fast. Practice this a lot. Now you are a little used to the front brake power. Try this now.... 1.) Find a road with no traffic that is no slick. 2.) Ride at 50 mph. 3.) Grip the tank with your knees hard, lean a little forward. 4.) Shift into neutral. 5.) Apply small amount of preasure on front brake. 6.) Now, this is the hard part. Apply a lot of preasure on the front brake, feel the balance of the rear end over the front tire. 7.) Continue doing this until you feel comfortable. Soon, you will get to a point when you feel like you can let off the brake and still roll in the air. Remember this point. That is the point of no return. It is very hard to get back from there. I have rolled many endos over and it takes a lot of practice. If you are not willing to lay down your bike, then don't do it. The odds of you messing up are good. You will most likely be fine, but it does a lot of damage to a bike. Happy endoing. T North County Lunatix

Thanks a lot. I know, that a stoppie or an endo can be very expenisve. Question: Why #4) shift into neutral ? I use always the clutch. bye

Originally posted by JAYSTENSEC4CYL [B]This is how I do rolling stoppies. Also note this will wear on your steering head bearings, and make a not to lovely noise when the rear tire hits the ground if you still have the bike in gear. It makes less noise if the bike is in neutral. /B] If you hit the back brake while your rear wheel is still in the air (preferably right before you come down), it will stop the wheel and when you touch down it will be completely silent. It's a great trick.

Thank you for that information. I tried it already to use the brake when i´m in the air but it´s hard to control and i think always about the expensive spare-parts ;) bye

I do not recommend stopping the rear wheel with the brake. If you stop it with the brake then the inertia from the tire is transferred to the brake(bike) and if you are in a nice high position, it could cause you to go over the balance point unintentionaly. If you do an endo for a decent distance the tire should stop anyways. So, there you go. T North County Lunatix

good advice!

When applying the brakes to stop the bike tire it would raise the back end up right? So if punching the gas while in gear should lower it right? If u think about jumping a MX bike u hit the rear brake in the air to drop the front, then just before landing the jump, u tap the gas and it brings the front end up. Works the same in RC cars. Or anything that has rotating things (I have a vid of a snowmobile doing a backflip) So my question is, if you go past the balance point and r about to flip, theoreticlly wouldnt u be able to (assuming youre in a gear like 2nd ect) let out the clutch and hit the gas to bring down the rear? I always thought "endo" was where u flipped it forward, u know as in flipped "end-o"ver-end. Just what we Mt.Bikers around here call it.

easiest way.. roll 30 mph.. hump the tank and squeeze with your knees.. dip into the brakes like an emergency stop. get used to the feeling of the front end compress and stop as fast as you can. get that down solid, and learn to do it fast. next step, once you can get the front to dip and not lock up or tuck, give it a bit more pull they back will rise. you have to be fast to get it up and roll but dont stab at the brake youll eat pavement. onve you get good you can give a quick pull and learn to back outta the brakes and modulate the lever to maintain height and go for distance.. :thumbup

listen to these guys, you will have it in no time... here's my contribution.. http://spink.ca/pictures/R6/stoppie.jpg

most of this makes sense..however, loving my bike I have found it difficult to push it all the way for fear of having to write a large cheque, not being 20 anymore and having to be without the bike for parts delays...biggest concern is when will the front wheel lockup and send the bike head over heels...at what point can this be sensed or can it ?

take care....

Originally posted by Onkel Thanks a lot. I know, that a stoppie or an endo can be very expenisve. Question: Why #4) shift into neutral ? I use always the clutch. bye Nah you don't need to shift into nuetral unless you are spiceing them up one handed. Gustav1 Tell me you didn't loop that brutha! That's mighty high and by looking at the right hand, it might have came off causing a slapper!

Here's my 5 cents worth: If you ride along in 2nd gear, then shift into neutral, you dont have to worry about pulling the clutch in (yeah I'm lazy) and it gives you more time to worry about more important things like grabbing the front of your bike, waving to friends etc Disco Stu www.cunningstunts.com

Here's one I prepared earlier: :fact

when i hit my balance point on my stoppies my engine cuts off, does anyone have problems wit that and how to prevent that.

That dude is ejecting! Both of his hands are off the bars!

when i get my bike to the balance point on my stoppies the engine cuts off, does that happen to anybody else and how to prevent that.

Originally posted by u"R1"badMoFo Show off!:rock :lol :lol

Speed!! Speed!! Speed!! When I learned how to do stoppies I couldn't get past the speed thing. It's all a mind-set. Now, I tell people that are learning that 25mph is a good speed. Bring the bike up to 25mph and lay into the front brake. You want to put most of your weight on the pegs. If you keep your ass on the seat chances are you'll crush your nuts.... Guarentee'd!! Get you lazy ass off the seat.... well, not off but make sure your feet / pegs are supporting your weight. You have to make sure your controlling your weight. Sitting down isn't gonna cut it. So, now.... Hit the front brake and lean forward. I like to throw my weight up and forward at the same time I ease into the front brake. You'll figure out that stoppies require stages of brake power. The inital lift takes more application but as the rear lifts you'll use less. Just like a wheelie.... you full open the throttle to lift and let off once you're there. Speed, Speed, Speed!! is the key... especially when you're learning. You'll slow the bike down considerably at first (because your scared and human) but you'll eventually get over that. You want to avoid at all costs waiting for the bike to stop and pop. If the bike is stopped or your not lifting until you stop then you're going to hurt yourself. I've seen people loop forward doing that. it's better to lift the rear in motion because if you get in trouble you just let go of the brake and continue forward. Take you time... ease into it. Lata, Bri Check out a clip of me doing a stoppie. This was taken a while ago but it's all I have. Check out my website www.core6.net. We're a stunt team out of Boston. www.core6.net/videos/Brian300ftr.mpg

whos this clown and wtf does he know about stoppies.. brian c6 blaaaaaaa never heard of u... you probly suck! haha.. so bri.. whens my private lessons ??? :D

hahahaaha ME TOO !!! CORE 6 !! CORE 6 !! :rock :rock whats up Bri ......... Is summer ever gonna get here... this feels like the longest winter ever ....:(

Originally posted by ASSASSINR1 when i get my bike to the balance point on my stoppies the engine cuts off, does that happen to anybody else and how to prevent that. you ever mess around with your clutch?.. this usually happens when the clutch is too tight.. losen it and you'll be fine

Hey Onkel The english word for "lager" is ball bearings. :) I´m from Denmark :cool:

go fast turn left.......oh wait that nascar...oh yeah go fast spike brake.....or something like that, either way here is my contribution

does anyone know if its easier to do stoppies and rolling stoppies on a cbr 900rr than a r1?

For the riders who are just learning to "stoppie" don't concentrate too much on the speed, you don't need to ride at 50mph just try at whatever speed you are comfortable with, you don't need to grip the tank with your knees you need to be relaxed and just need to position yourself forward, don't try to shift into neutral when all you need to do is pull in the clutch. Basically what you are doing is outbraking yourself, lightly at first to load the suspension then progressively harder, start small until you get the technique and then you can start to do faster and higher but always safety first, there is no coming back from the point of no return hence the name and it is expensive, it is easier to learn on a "supermoto" bike or bikes like the 1200 bandit/ Fazer 1000 because they have a higher centre of gravity. Hope this is of some help! Best regards my US friends from all in the UK.......

Originally posted by tidbit you ever mess around with your clutch?.. this usually happens when the clutch is too tight.. losen it and you'll be fine if it was the clutch the bike would only cut out when the back wheel landed, and not when you reached the balance point

Give me a bmx and I'll touch the bars on the ground.. no ****.... ;)

then I do my famous fall on my ass trick.. gets the chicks every time.. JK ;)

I just realized something.... I have wanted to do a rolling stoppie for awhile, only really tried a few times... endo's are pretty ezy... not that I can go super high or anything... Now if Swedie (The man) says it takes speed and Guts then I fear I have no chance in hell at ever doing 1... a rolling stoppie that is... If he says it takes Guts and he is that good. (he is Swedie after all) <<<