How to.....Rolling Burnouts

So I hate the stock dunlops on the R1, so I learned rolling burnouts last night....first gear tho... get up to about 30 mph and two finger the clutch and two finger the front brake...give it some throttle and some front brake and let out some clucth....it will get to a point where the tire will just break loose...its actually really smooth... sorry just psyched that I learned these... :rock Oh yeah...stand upon the pegs and learn over the front to unweight the rear....that is kinda key too!! :p

CONGRADULATIONS MAN! It's always great when you can learn something new and then be able to repeat it over and over again. Before you know it you'll be rolling them around parked cop cars! LMAO NOTE: Unless you are friends with the cop, I do not advise this!

Ahhaaa...something else I wanna dive into. My front tire is a little flat looking (wheelie landings I suppose) but my back tire still looks good. So I wanna learn rolling burnouts to kinda even it out, so I can replace both of them at once. Better learn some straight ones before I start asking about circles huh. I need to find an empty parking lot in the middle of nowhere.

Yea, there is definitley a nice touch to rolling burnouts. They look pretty smooth. I'd be willing to try them except my tires can barely handle all the wheelies... Besides that, I dont think losing it trying one would look very cool. Mad props to you though!

I sat down to write a how too but remembered seeing a fellow stunter I know at another site who wrote this: Originally posted by motoxpete alright man first thing is you don't want to get the tire spinning that fast cause if you do it will be harder to keep it going strait.....or to do a donut for that matter.once you get it spinning keep it at a low rpm,beleave me it's much harder to control when it's spinning fast.Also put alot of weight on the front end....another thing, I find it easier to do this when I am slowing down...it helps put more weight on the front tire.just get going like 5 mph then grap the front brake alittle,you'll feel the front end dive alittle....at this time you should already over the front of the bike....don't dump the clutch.....just let is slip out. lets go over it 1.Get going a little 2.Stand up and weight the front end. 3.start to pull in the front brake. 4.when the front supension starts to compress,give it gas and slip the clutch. 5.keep the tire spinning at a low rpm....like I said if it's spinning fast it will be harder to control. another thing that helped me was....I would do a regular burnout with my feel on the ground,then I would let off the brake a bit and get a feel on how it will roll.Then throw you feet on the pegs...before you know it you'll be dunkin donuts all day!! It's hard to explain in words but I hope I helped a little.Good luck let me know how you turn out the author is MotoXPete with the stunt group signs of insanity thanks Pete!

Here's a how to clip of a rolling burnout by Aaron Yates. Aaron Yates Rolling Burnout Video (http://home.mchsi.com/~00zx12r/yates_highside_small.wmv) :lol

Or better yet, what not to do.:p

I have to give HUGE ups to Aaron Yates. I have a new found respect for the guy because at MidAmerica Raceway in Elkhart, Wisconsin last weekend, I saw him eating dinner Sunday night with his wife & kid. He was still signing autographs with his kid on his lap & trying to carry a conversation with his wife. I can see where that would get old realllllly fast! Most riders would have said to come back later.

hhmm well.. I tried to get it going and give it some gas and all that good stuff but for some reason it wouldn't spin.. so I think I might just see what it feels like and do the regular one with my feet on the ground and letting off the break a little...

whats up everyone! so your getting the rolling burnouts down, sounds good , ive been doing them for a while now just becare full of slipping the clutch to much where it will grab traction and lock the front tire and wash you out, its happened to me a few times but im usaully starting them at like 60 65 mph and accelerating to 80! they get hairy around that speed but the funnest thing to do on a R1! that is besides spinnin donuts and figure 8s hahaahhaaaa keep up the good work and take them slow!

tires must be cheap were you guys come from. i dont think its very fun or does it even look cool to watch $400 go up in smoke and not even catch a buzz. but to each their own:iamwithst

How Long have you been ridding? Just be carfull when doing those burn outs if you panic your bike will look like Shit !

Originally posted by Guia_X Here's a how to clip of a rolling burnout by Aaron Yates. Aaron Yates Rolling Burnout Video (http://home.mchsi.com/~00zx12r/yates_highside_small.wmv) :lol Did you take that video??...i was standing right there by the winner's circle when Yates did that at Road America..everyone started yelling and clapping when he got back up.:lol

So I tried this last night...I started with a standing burn out... I forgot to hold on to the front brake and the bike just shot out at like 45 miles an hour... Just kidding.. Actually, I got a few rolling burnouts. I did them at about 15 MPH... here was my process...(correct this if you have a better way) 1. get rolling at 10-15 mph 2. clutch it 3. give it some throttle 4. grab the front brake (just a little) 5. slip the clutch just as the nose begins to dive.. I noticed that if I hold to much brake the front end wants to slide out...Is it just me??

That was a pretty impressive vid. I am wondering though, was he pissed off at the tire sponsors, or the mechanic team? It seemed like he was venting a little. :D :mad: :rock :p

Originally posted by casper2001R1 tires must be cheap were you guys come from. i dont think its very fun or does it even look cool to watch $400 go up in smoke and not even catch a buzz. but to each their own:iamwithst 400?????????? God lord man! I get brand new 010'z and 207'z for 75-100 bucks.........

Hey Casper, where are located? If you are in the DFW area, I can get you a set of race take-offs for $125 (includes installation).

One handed!! :rock http://12.153.50.20/cg156/ohrbo6.jpg

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tires must be cheap were you guys come from. i dont think its very fun or does it even look cool to watch $400 go up in smoke and not even catch a buzz. but to each their own Then don't do them. Besides, you have a lot more to be concerned about than rolling burnouts if you're paying $400 for a tire.

i think the easiest way to do a rolling burnout is sitting on the tank. it takes alot of weight off the ass end and u dont have to give it much gas at all(plus its not as bad on the tire). the down side of this is that since the weight is at the front, the back end will want to swing out more if u are not balanced properly. another bad thing is that since you are up higher it will be harder to catch the bike if it starts to go down. the main point to doing these burnouts is good clean and even pavement. i almost dumped my bike once cuz my front tire hit some sand and the tire locked causing me to almost biff. (when u get these down try putting your legs over the windsheild. that just looks cool):cool: :thumbup

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rolling burnouts are fun but a new tire every other week isnt lol....i mostly do my burnouts with out the clutch unless i m at high speeds!! shoot i did find it easier to control with a damper on that without one on lol...peace

How come when i try to do a rolling burnout usually the front tire locks and i almost dump it?:confused: What am i doin wrong any ideas?

Go faster! Not kidding!

I feel your pain triplerider, my last attempt at a rolling burnout the front wheel locked up and I had to kick my legs out like outriggers to keep from dumping it. Oh well, I guess thats what practice is for. :hellobye

Hey guys I just went out and tried a few rolling burn outs. It went pretty well. I to had the problem of the front wheel slideing. My problem was that I didn't let go of the clutch after the back tire started spinning:confused: which caused me to adjust the play in the cable after a few attemps. If you a worried about tires try and go to your local motorcycle shops and see if they won't give you some used tires that they have pulled off of other bikes. Thats what me and the guys i ride with do. We just scored 8 tires from 3 local shops for free. any way I do basically the same as everyone here I guess 1) GET going about 5-10 2) lean over the tank (standing up) 3) pull in the brake (just alittle) 4)pull in the clutch 5) give her some gas and let out on the clutch easy 6) the back tire will start to spin then let out on the clutch (unlike me) and just use the throttle to control the speed. OH and hold the brake alittle. that's how I get them going. Although I have been told I look like a monkey humping a football when i am in the process of a burnout:crash

thanks weezer!:rock .. I shall try it heheh the only thing I am scared off is when I try to do it is that the rear might start going side to side :confused: and then I dump her :(

Just learn young!!!! That's the best way to go! Here's my first Rolling Burn-out AGE 3 :lol http://www.gotadrenaline.com/Learning%20Burnouts....JPG *****DO NOT LOOK AT THE VIDEOS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (http://WWW.GOTADRENALINE.COM) :jump

Originally posted by weezer 5) give her some gas and let out on the clutch easy Just not to easy, you'll go thru clutch plates faster than you do dirty underwear! Unless you don't care then it will run you some where along the lines of 200 to 250 bucks to change them if you do it yourself.

My buddy, ballsrnot4sale, has an 02 and it is hard to control in a burn out. On my f4i I can roll them forever. Oh yea, I finally got a full donut yesterday.

My buddy, ballsrnot4sale, has an 02 and it is hard to control in a burn out. On my f4i I can roll them forever. Oh yea, I finally got a full donut yesterday.

i dont know about on dry ground (so you might want to ignore this) because i never tried one on dry ground... But in the rain i do mad rolling burrns all over the place, from a stop up tp speed limit, already cruising speed, highway, around on ramp's wherever i think its pretty easy to control the r1 spinnin a roll, compated to my old gixxer 750 tons easier.. in the wet tho i dunno how it applies to dry ground

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Accelerate to your desired speed whether it's 10 or 70 mph, pull front brake slightly to load the front end, get your weight on the bars and hit it to about 1/3 throttle. I don't use clutch, too expensive to be replacing clutch's like someone already said.

CONGRATS! I've never done a rolling burnout, this is a good time to try it since my tires need to be replaced. :D

MiniMike, ....sounds pretty doable :) over the weekend....

I have just mastered the stopped burnouts and have been attempting the rolling ones, however the back end wants to slide to the left and rigt. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?

Someone said they could do burnouts with just the break and no clutch, how much throttle is needed to get the wheel to roll. It almost seems like I am going to staul. Do I need to give it more gas?

pkbaum you've got the rear tire spinning TOO fast. slow it down as slow as possible with out it catching traction! This will create stability. But, you might want to try starting them while moving, cause speed creates stability too!

When I do my rollin burnouts my front tire slips out from under me. What am I doing wrong? And when I do these I am standing up leaning forward but the front tire still wants to slip out. Some one help me. Also need help with wheelies I can do a 1st gear wheelie until I redline but can't figure out how to shift. Every time I shift "no clutch" the front end just falls. Thanks.

Anyone have the Yates burn out video saved? ( the page is gone ) and willing to email it to me.........RedReaper@charter.net .....Thanks

I am also haveing the problem with the front tire washing out. I am going about 15 mph leaning over the front (maybe not far enough), applying some front brake(maybe to much) gassing it(maybe to much or not enough) feathering the cluth(maybe to fast or to slow). Anyone else have this problem and work it out?

CG 156 You the man- great pic!

awsome shit guys

i get it! i always skidded the front trying to do these, but i found the right brake pressure feel and the aggressive gas/clutch needed. 1st 5mph, today several over 50, (shouldn't have done that with a car behind me, i glanced back and saw this guy emerge from a blinding cloud of smoke. now over 80mph in 2nd! had several front slides doing this, could have gone bad, i went back over the roads and saw lots of thin darkies from the front. be careful when learning this, let go of the brake if it feels funny.

Mojo, What kind of rubber are you running?

Originally posted by rkleber2002 When I do my rollin burnouts my front tire slips out from under me. What am I doing wrong? And when I do these I am standing up leaning forward but the front tire still wants to slip out. Some one help me. Also need help with wheelies I can do a 1st gear wheelie until I redline but can't figure out how to shift. Every time I shift "no clutch" the front end just falls. Thanks. you gotta blip your throttle. dont take the bike all the way to redline. put foot against shifter and press up, blip the throttle, when letting off the gas the bike will shift and you will continue on you way. i do this same method at the dragstrip and saved me some tenths on the timeslip. my buddy rides this way when stuntin so i kno it works. P.S. try using second for wheelies feels better(2 me)and they stay up longer.

d208, (what's left of it now!) would be easier with touring rubber, but i would die trying riding w/ my buddy on his 03 r6. just went one tooth down in front yesterday and 1st gear rollers w/ bald tires happens just getting on the throttle. getting another d208 sat.

btw- my friend said my back tire was coming off the groud when i put pressure on the front brake to start the 2nd gear (clutched) roller @ 80-85mph(indicated)

80-85?! holy sheit man!! i do that closer to 60-70 and push the bars!! damn near got popped today tho by sheriffs officer!! watch out!! they are after us!! i bailed and took off!! i found 6500 rpm works really well for me and i weigh in about a 165-175(depends on beer consumption the nite before!!) i personally dont like running hi speed wheelies as theres no real control left. kinda freaks me out but then im old!! haha:confused:

"Just be carfull when doing those burn outs if you panic your bike will look like Shit !" AN R-1 NEVER LOOKS LIKE SHIT ........THEY JUST DEVELOP PERSONALITY AND LIKE A SCRAP BOOK YOU CAN ALWAYS CARRY THOSE MEMORIES WITH YOU TO SHOW YOUR FRIENDS!!

Maxxym, Standing ones are pretty easy, just make sure you 1: Try to preload/compress the fork then grab the front brake tight, don't want it flying away. 2: Don't sit on the bike 3: Keep it between your legs 4: Put it in gear and then bring the revs up slowly don't just yam on it and the wheel will spin and then the smoke begins. Then I'm sure if you apply what everyone else says you will have a rolling burnout before you know it.

Originally posted by N8kdFrost How Long have you been ridding? Just be carfull when doing those burn outs if you panic your bike will look like Shit ! nice helmet :crash

Re-title that thread to: "how to mess up my transmission 101" :lol

ive got to work on mine i stink but ill get the hang of it

Tyres are really expensive here in NZ. $300 for a rear and $230 for a front. Mind you i like Pirelli Dragon Super Corsa because of the grip so dont mind paying the extra cause a set o dunlop D208 are only $20 each cheaper. "You gotta pay if you want to play".

Originally posted by martinc Re-title that thread to: "how to mess up my transmission 101" :lol lmao:lol

Originally posted by martinc Re-title that thread to: "how to mess up my transmission 101" :lol :lol :lol

Sweet, Ill need to try that. Originally posted by Cg156 So I hate the stock dunlops on the R1, so I learned rolling burnouts last night....first gear tho... get up to about 30 mph and two finger the clutch and two finger the front brake...give it some throttle and some front brake and let out some clucth....it will get to a point where the tire will just break loose...its actually really smooth... sorry just psyched that I learned these... :rock Oh yeah...stand upon the pegs and learn over the front to unweight the rear....that is kinda key too!! :p

I take you can't do them that's the only reason you find it rediculous, should try it sometime

i did my first rolling burn this weekend. it wasn't much to be honest... but ya gotta start somehwhere.

This thread should be called: "How to waste perfectly good rubber and burn clutches". :lol

Originally posted by martinc This thread should be called: "How to waste perfectly good rubber and burn clutches". :lol Yep burnt mine on Saturday. Only noticeable clutching up wheelies though.

:lol

just go like 20 or so and start giving more gas as you give more front brake and can even give a slight jerk on the front brake to take weight off of back tire to get it started but once you get it going just use enough front brake to keep the bike att he speed you want it and you can steer them and make them slide sideways, pretty fun

When I was learning I found it easier to wet the pavement in one spot roll over it and pull the brake alittle while still moving and let her rip. Got used to balance and control really quick.

That front tire will slide out from underneath you quick, fast, and in a hurry...

I did a rollin one today. It was to easy on my R1. Thing is once it broke loose and started to roll I think I let the brake out a tad bit to much and she started fish tailing side to side. I didn't loose her though any tips?

Well this is all some really good info. So now I can go Jack up my stock dunlops and go get some new michelin pilot powers to ride the mountain with. thanks all

Originally posted by mrmike_316 When I was learning I found it easier to wet the pavement in one spot roll over it and pull the brake alittle while still moving and let her rip. Got used to balance and control really quick. okay you got lucky dude.. dont EVER do that.. I had my feet over the windsheild and was sitting on the tank and was spinning the back tire and hit a wet patch bcz of trees and it slipped out from under me.. didn't feel nice.. trust me.

people are talking about not using the clutch....how do you go about it? just put enought weight on the front and use a little brake and give it gas and it will break loose or what?

ive practiced this one abit, but any tips on keeping the arse end straight? i wounder alittle some times. mostly to the right.

Steer into it, kinda like a controled slide. Keep the RPM's down, but enough to keep it spinning. I personally use the clutch to get it going.....But I think it works eitehr way.....Deffinately a great way to kill a back tire or two getting it down good. I usually wait till I am ready to replace mine and then spend a few weeks working on this trick. The Guys on the videos make it look easy, but getting control of it is the KEY!!

how far do you have to roll it to count? LOL... I usually just Do a Burnout, then Slowly Come off the Brake and Ride it out until it catches grip. I never actually tried to keep it going and Drift with it... Think i need to try it on another bike 1st... http://youtube.com/watch?v=QHPdRt6Lwc4&feature=related

From the Video's you are doing pretty good, I never start from a stand still, I slow to 5mph or so, and tap the front break and ease the clutch out and give it some gas to get her spinning and don't speed up much from there..... I usually do some circles try to learn the control part of it......Keeping the rear wheel spinning at a constant speed seems to help alot, and slow. I have tried it fast and its like riding with the back tire on ICE. I always stand up and lean over the front wheel.....But I also prefer stand-up wheelies....More control for taking curves and changing lanes.......Its just what you are comfortable with....... Nice Video!!

learned ir and found the easyest way tho had a problem...the front tire was always sliding away so dont u try to do this stuff with a empty tank :D u have to give more waight to the front thats all so... 1st u have to be rooling about 10km-h 2nd stand uu about 10 15cm from ur siting position 3d pull in the brake abit 4th give thorotle 5th let some clutch out. Done u succeded a rooling burnout ;) riding a r1 2000 with small mods :) like AP brake pads with some carbon in it or something...best brakes ever saved ma fckin life maby 10-20 times :)

update:today was a rly lucky day :D i was trainning the rolling burnout again with a empty tank :D its posible to do the burnouts ofcourse but u need to put a bit more waight to the front or the bike becomes unstable SOOO tryed to make the burnout and the front sliped rly hard to the left sidely i was able to let go the front brake and the tire got the grip again so it sliped to the right i hited the mirror with my helm and then the front tire touched the "bordstone" so it stabalazed the bike and i crusched a bit my balls :D damn that was kinda hard to drive home with the pain...so u all stunners be carefull with this better PUSH THE BRAKES MORE and more WAIGHT to the front...coz crashing a bike withought a cage aint funny...btw i have holidays so im thinking to make me a crash cage and the 12oclock thingy...just need to find who could do that :) or maby anyone sells something?

Glad your alright man...Sounds like a Good Save! This was pretty good too!(not really Rolling but a damn nice Bike) http://youtube.com/watch?v=fKs2mn5DoMc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXAjQh_q9MY when i first started...notice the mild off/on squeezing of the front brake.... ..and no helmet, boots, leathers..blah blah blah...:nopity: you dont have to go fast at all, in fact you can start at a dead stop if u cruise along at 10 mph, then slowly squeeze front brake so it dips like said before so all weight shifts, then slip clutch out...and pray..lol sory if repeating, didnt read other posts...

Got any longer vids??

resurrection, i did a standstill burnout at bikenite. I know it's not a roller but gotta start somewhere.

^stand stills on the pegs with feet up are harder to do then rolling ones?

any tips on keeping the arse end straight? Steer into it, kinda like a controled slide. so when the rear moves to the right, you steer to the right too? do you shift your weight at all, like o the bars or pegs? how do you recover if it goes too far? and how do you finish it, just ease off the gas or clutch in? just trying to get my head around it before i give it a go... i read the thread and it sounds simple enough but i really dont want to bin it

here's mine..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFHIxpp9F3c&feature=youtube_gdata