Mich Pilot Power

shawn_foo
03-03-2004, 11:19 AM
hi to all my front/rear sportec m1 tire are finishing soon, and i would like to give the Mich pilot power a try. but before i do that, anyone out there tried it? i'm not too sure on the Mich, but its review isn't that bad after all...

r1diculous
03-19-2004, 08:45 PM
is it available in s'pore now?

accce
03-22-2004, 07:36 PM
I would like to try it also is it available ?

r1diculous
03-22-2004, 10:12 PM
http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/ImageServlet?imageCode=1113803063&codeSite=AUTO_UK

WTFO
03-22-2004, 10:16 PM
My experience with Pilots here in the northwest are not good. Roads are cooler and even dropping psi down doesnt help. I would suggest sticking to the M1's or run a Dunlop

Juerg
03-23-2004, 03:53 AM
My R1 was delivered with Pilot Powers. I didn't really chase them to their limits but first impression is superb. Easy handling, very transparent. Very good grip level (superior to the former Pilot Sport) and this allready from the second turn. WTFO, what Pilot did you use? Pilot Race? This tire works only when hot, not really a good tire for road use. I.m.h.o. the Pilot Power is a very good tire for the new R1, I don't have a comparision however. Availability: I understood that in the U.S. the tires will be available in Summer only?! I (better: my dealer) might help out there if anyone is interested.

martinc
03-23-2004, 04:56 AM
I like Pilot sports very much...most around here agree that they are still superior to the M1...different strokes for different folks I guess :)

Juerg
03-23-2004, 05:07 PM
I agree Martin, so far the Pilot Sport was my tire of choice! I was a Metzeler Man before but the Pilot Sport bought me!

XbusaRyder
03-23-2004, 05:18 PM
I had the last genration Pilot Sports on my Busa and the tires were great!! I never doubted their grip and thought they lasted alot longer then Dunlops. I thought that they took a little while to warm up though. I was thinking of trying the M1's after this set of Dunlops wears out(I am actually quite impressed with the 218's though).

WTFO
03-23-2004, 10:19 PM
Juerg I have a set of Pilot Sports on the Honda 954 (wife's bike) and she has had problem with them sliding on the corners where the M1's on my Daytona stuck fine. Really like the Dunlops on my R1 though. May try a set of BT-012ss on the Honda or drop a set of M1s on. Pretty much around here folks either love them or hate them.:riding

Juerg
03-24-2004, 06:29 AM
Was it a real slide or did she just think it slides? My personal observation as well as many mag comparisons surelly did not show a higher grip level on the Metzelers. Now, there is conditions that may be in favour of one or the other tire, not all perform equaly under all circumstances... And comparing two different tires on two different bikes is not possible anyway, different suspensions, mechanical grip, motor power/weight and last but not least the driver influence

WTFO
03-24-2004, 09:59 PM
Not sure pavement was a bit damp etc I railed her on the inside. She has been on my daytona when I slid the tires so she knows what it feels like. She weighs in at 130 pounds have the spring backed all the way off and it still is not set up for her. Am going to do some work on getting things set for her weight on the bike have not had much time for that I just got back from Iraq and she is over there now so will have to wait. I am going to take the bike out and see what it does course it will be a down grade from the R1. :D :D

Juerg
03-25-2004, 10:39 AM
At least it is worth looking for other potential sources of the problem. The Pilot Sport is known to have best grip in class in wet conditions specially. I am a rather fast driver and never felt unhappy with it.

9mile
03-25-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by WTFO My experience with Pilots here in the northwest are not good. Roads are cooler and even dropping psi down doesnt help. I would suggest sticking to the M1's or run a Dunlop Supposedly, the warm-up issues with the 'Sports was addressed with this new tire... I'd like to hear it from street guys rather than paid Mich riders at the press intro though...

Redrocket996
03-25-2004, 11:13 AM
The pilot sports are ok on the road but not really up to the job on the track. They work really well up to a point and inspire great confidence and then bammmmmmmmm. Your on your arse and watching your bike slide down the track. This has happened to me twice now! However the pilot sport cups are an excellent road tyre and a good track tyre and have never caused me problems on the road or track and I've even managed to run them hard on the road in the wet. I run sport cups during winter and stick on rennsports in the summer. The pilot power are getting good reviews and it sounds as though they are made of a similar compound to the sport cups. I'll definitely give them a try next time I change my tyres.

Juerg
03-25-2004, 01:43 PM
Now that's interesting! There is no Pilot Sport v/s Pilot Sport Cup here in Switzerland/Germany! Different markets, different products I'd say. From what I read, I would suppose that our Pilot Sport here is the U.S. Pilot Sport Cup, what makes my statements valid for this tires only! http://www.michelin-motorrad.de/sport/pilotsport.shtml

WTFO
03-25-2004, 11:16 PM
Well it appears likes in tires goes hand in hand with beer. It is what a person likes or is comfortable with. The experience I had with the mich tires was getting them to heat up to stick. Ran Bridgstone and like them slide perdictabily. Since swithching to the M1 on the daytona though have really enjoyed them. Will see how the D's wotk on the R1 but so far m VERY happy with the way the D 218's feel.:thumbup :corn :rant :riding :no :D :riding

shawn_foo
03-27-2004, 10:56 PM
i'm not too sure whether or not it is available in s'pore. gotta check with the shops. so far the feedback given to me would be to stick to the diablos or the renns, cos they are the rubbers that really sticks. the pilot sports have very negative feedbacks, and they don't perform unless really warmed! i've got no special preferences, just wan to try it (i'd not change it yet!).

castrolr1
04-15-2004, 11:59 AM
kentisugu in sport rider did a little blurb on them.. he said the main problem with the mich pilot sports was their warm up time and now mich has addressed this.. they warm up much quicker but they turn in a little slower... which is what i noticed when going from the pilot sport to the M1... anyway it's in the new sport rider.. FYI

r1diculous
04-15-2004, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by shawn_foo i'm not too sure whether or not it is available in s'pore. gotta check with the shops. so far the feedback given to me would be to stick to the diablos or the renns, cos they are the rubbers that really sticks. the pilot sports have very negative feedbacks, and they don't perform unless really warmed! i've got no special preferences, just wan to try it (i'd not change it yet!). if you are going for renns or supercorsas, be careful when riding in the wet. They are mostly for dry weather and the track.