pjf02 06-13-2002, 06:36 PM Tonight I decided I was going to learn how to do a stoppie. After riding a few wheelies to get the adrenalin pumping I found a nice straight stretch and started by acclereating up to 30 m.p.h. and then applying the front brake. I did this harder and harder until I was sure the front would lock. I learned a lot about braking tonight! Finally on my fourth attempt I braked very hard. Sure enough the rear lofted about a foot in the air and I came to a stop in about 10 feet! It felt so sweet! The rear just settled down gently and I had a huge grin on my face. I thought I knew a fair amount about my bike but I now realize that I can brake much, much harder than I had ever thought possible. After a few more I headed for home, but now I wanna go back out do it again! But I'm afraid that I've had a couple :beer so I'll just have to watch some on-line vids of other people doing endos, wheelies, etc. C-ya on one wheel (front or rear:lol )
P.J.
Silverboy 06-13-2002, 07:49 PM Welcome to the dark side, there's no going back now. :D
Liter Boy 06-13-2002, 08:01 PM You Will be a true member When you go over the bars. But make sure people are watching:D It's alot funnier then at least for every one who saw it.:jump
WETPAVEMENT 06-13-2002, 10:08 PM Gongrats BRO
Just remember to take your time, I cant begin to tell you just how many stunnas I know, that have crashed by doing a new trick off of adrinaline than pure skill but the numbers are high! Enjoy it but be persice!
Y2KRedR1 06-20-2002, 10:04 PM Originally posted by Liter Boy
You Will be a true member When you go over the bars...
I'm a charter member...:)
Here is what you have to look forward when you "go to far":
Dislocated shoulders and/or broken collar bone (if you're lucky). If you are not so lucky & the bike lands on you:
shattered hip (happened to a friend of mine) and/or internal bleeding followed by the removal of various internal organs (hate to say it, but that's what happened to me).
Scared? You should be. I'm not preachin' or saying don't do 'em (yes, I'm still doing 'em), I just want you to respect the fact that these are one of the more devastating stunts when things go bad.
I've learned a few do's & dont's & would be happy to share what I know (for what it's worth) if you're interested.
ENJOY...:thumbup
lakebum 06-20-2002, 10:22 PM Tueday night at Bike night in Fayetteville Ark. I was watching a guy do rolling stoppies first with his g/f on the back. Damn cool. Then he started doing them with his feet over the windscreen......needless to say gixxer tanks suck. He caved in his tank with his ass. :lol Glad I have a Yamaha
Sam56n 06-21-2002, 04:23 PM i've been practicing riding stoppies out, i used to think the higher the better cause it is unpridictable to the people you're doing the wtoppie for!! but both are fun, and silverboy is right, welcome ot the dark side thereis no going back now!!
this is me on my old baby tl1000 which was stolen a few months ago (got an r1 now!)
pjf02 06-21-2002, 05:18 PM Holy shit Sam!!!!
Did you land that? Looks like your about to take a dive!
Sam, ya gotta get rid of that avatar. I think yur Twisted Logic.;)
T-Pole 06-24-2002, 04:17 PM Hey Y2kRedR1,
I'd be interested in some of your do's and don'ts of stoppies. I just started doing em a few weeks ago, and got one too high today. It felt like I pushed really hard on the pegs and it came back down the right way. Anyways, tips would be good.
Thanks
Y2KRedR1 06-30-2002, 01:59 PM T-Pole, sorry it's taken so long to reply. Went in the hospital 6/27 for surgery. Had a laparoscopic cholecystectomy & liver biopsy...direct result of stoppie-gone-bad about six months ago. Hopefully, that will be the last time I have to go in!!!
Anyhow, here are the major points I've learned about stoppies (before taking of this to heart, consider the source. I was, afterall, quite severely injured doing 'em)
Prep:
1. Ride long enough to warm up the tires and brakes. The temps need to be at nominal operating temp to help keep things predictable. When tires are cold, they slide. When brakes are cold or overheated, they grab. So, if the brakes grab, and the tire slides, bad things can happen.
2. Practice a few "panic" stops first. In a clear area, from different speeds, hit the front harder & harder just to get comfortable & familiar with hard braking.
3. At least in the beginning, practice only on roads constructed from "white cement". Black top roads and older roads have different traction characteristics. You must be able to adapt to these differing characteristics. So, in order to get some good experience, just practice on the "good" roads for a while.
4. Look in your rearview mirrors & make sure there are no cars close behind you. Cars can't stop as fast as you & will run over you. Let me say that again: Cars will run over you. Also, don't forget, CARS WILL RUN OVER YOU!
5. Beginning the stoppie is a 2 step process. The transition between steps should be done as smoothly as possible. The first step is compressing the forks. Next time you hit the front brake, pay attention to how your front forks react. They compress. Once the forks are compressed, step 2 is to apply a little more pressure to the brake lever. This will bring the back wheel off the ground.
If you don't compress the forks first, your bike will react more like a pogo stick. This is bad. This is VERY bad.
The pogo effect is typically the result of low speed "hurried" stoppies. Say you are only going 10 or 20mph & have a real short distance & HAVE to do the stoppie quickly or not at all. CHOOSE NOT-AT-ALL!!! If you have to do the stoppie quickly, you are more likely to pogo. As I stated earlier, pogo is BAD. VERY BAD! When you hurry, the forks will "rebound" from the compression step as the back is rising. This can throw off your technique & send you over the front.
Because of the compression step, you will scrub off 10 to 15mph before the back wheel ever lifts off the ground. So, try starting out at around 30mph. As you gain confidence, go up to 40. After a while, try 50 to 60. You may notice that some ppl start from even higher speeds. Don’t worry about going that fast for a while (if ever).
6. Look ahead of you.
Take a look at my avatar. See how I’m looking straight over the windshield at the road directly in front of me? This was the one of the main reasons I was hurt so bad when I crashed. I used to rely solely on “feel” for balance. This served me well for a long time. I could roll stoppies from over 60mph to a complete stop, but I never realized I was limiting myself by looking “down”. By looking ahead of you, instead of down, you get additional input visually. The sense of “horizon” you get from looking ahead will open up many new possibilities for you. It will also give you needed input that will allow you to bail in time if things go bad. If I had been looking ahead when I went too far, instead of looking down, I’m sure I would have bailed instead of going over with the bike. I still would have been hurt, but not nearly as badly.
OK, I’m gonna stop right there. The pain pills are kicking in & I’ve got some pizza to eat…:)
Sam56n 07-01-2002, 06:27 PM never ever ever doin stoppppies again, after reading the last post:ugh
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