Rossi on Top......(He can do et)

http://www.amasuperbike.com/2004/Apr/040416c.htm First qualifying session of the year from south africa 1 Valentino Rossi Gauloises Fortuna Yamaha Yamaha 1:33.353 2 Sete Gibernau Telefonica Movistar Honda Honda 1:33.378 3 Loris Capirossi Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1:33.709 4 Max Biaggi Camel Honda Honda 1:33.730 5 Kenny Roberts Team Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1:33.841 6 Colin Edwards Telefonica Movistar Honda Honda 1:33.859 7 Marco Melandri Fortuna Gauloises Tech 3 Yamaha 1:34.100 8 Makoto Tamada Camel Honda Honda 1:34.177 9 Nicky Hayden Repsol Honda Honda 1:34.208 10 Carlos Checa Gauloises Fortuna Yamaha Yamaha 1:34.540 11 Alex Hofmann Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki 1:35.616 12 Alex Barros Repsol Honda Honda 1:34.619 13 Shinya Nakano Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki 1:34.661 14 John Hopkins Team Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1:35.112 15 Norick Abe Fortuna Gauloises Tech 3 Yamaha 1:35.251 16 Ruben Xaus D'Antin MotoGP Ducati 1:35.417 17 Shane Byrne MS Aprilia Racing Aprilia 1:35.852 18 Neil Hodgson D'Antin MotoGP Ducati 1:36.187 19 Troy Bayliss Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1:36.552 20 Jeremy McWilliams MS Aprilia Racing Aprilia 1:36.834

Bring it home :thumbup

Wow... Suzuki must have made quite an improvement on the GSV-R motor, 'cause Kenny qualified 5th !!! I dont see Kurtis Roberts up there anywhere.

Colin Edwards is the "Dark Horse", keep an eye out for him. :fact He will be on the podium.

Originally posted by Magnus I dont see Kurtis Roberts up there anywhere. Kurtis isn't racing due to a shoulder injury.:beer

It's going to be a great MotoGP season....I can't wait for Sunday's race. :jump

:jump Go Rossi :jump I wonder what Honda is thinking now having let him slip away? In the battle of rider vs bike, Honda has taken 2 slaps, fast lap to win the BMW and provisional today. I always loved watching Rossi race, now he's no longer on a homo honda! H - Have O - Often N - Needed D - Dealer A - Assistance. Honda sucks.:lol

Originally posted by rezar1 It's going to be a great MotoGP season....I can't wait for Sunday's race. :jump :iamwithst :jump :jump

:rock :jump :yesnod

:rock :cool: :rock :thumbup

Originally posted by rezar1 It's going to be a great MotoGP season....I can't wait for Sunday's race. :jump EXACTLY!! MOTOGP is hands down the most popular and most competive motorcycle racing series currently going on.. WSB - Ducati cup.. no major manufacters but Suzuki challenging.. even then.. who cares.. AMA - Superbike is the same ole shyt for the past 5 years other than Nicki Hayden and the Vtwin advantage year.. Mladin & Suzuki.. BSB - who even watches this shyt.. not even the Brits.. *lol* But who cares again.. if the Virgin R1 bikes win races.. maybe i'll watch..

Come on Sunday!!!

this will be an interesting season.

what time and what channel on sunday?

Speed TV. Sunday, April 18, 2:00 pm, MOTOGP WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

Originally posted by Daekwan EXACTLY!! [QUOTE][B]MOTOGP is hands down the most popular and most competive motorcycle racing series currently going on.. no argument here. WSB - Ducati cup.. no major manufacters but Suzuki challenging.. even then.. who cares.. I care. Go look at my response to your post the last time you said "Ducati Cup." I wish you'd do me a favor and read it. In a nutshell, if you call WSB the "Ducati Cup", you *must* call AMA superbike the "Suzuki Cup." There are more Suzukis on the grid in AMA (both in pure numbers and as a percentage) than ther are Ducatis in WSB. I get tired of hearing this crap about the Ducati Cup when AMA is way more homogenous than WSB. For cripes sake, there are two Foggy Petronas machines on the provisional first row at Misano right now... AMA - Superbike is the same ole shyt for the past 5 years other than Nicki Hayden and the Vtwin advantage year.. Mladin & Suzuki.. Same 'ol? What do you call factory efforts by suzi, honda, and ducati? Chopped liver? How about Toye going out and finishing respectably at Fontana with an R1 that had stock pipes(!!) and still had the mudguard attached? I don't know about you, but I call that interesting. What about that idiot Yates and his WWF manuevers? I think AMA is pretty exciting this year. It'd be moreso if Attack Kawasaki got off of their dead asses. BSB - who even watches this shyt.. not even the Brits.. *lol* But who cares again.. if the Virgin R1 bikes win races.. maybe i'll watch.. I'd watch it if I could. But I'm an American, and it's not televised here. Who cares? Have you ever seen the crowds at a BSB race? Believe me, Brits care about BSB. The friggin country has 1/5 our population but has better factory participation and mfgr mix than we do.

Gotta be cheering for that Rossi.. Its sooo the rider these days (Mostly always has been).. Hope he wins.. JUST to SHUT THE H3LL UP all these "Honda Honda Honda" chanters... "RC this".. and "RC that"... "It's the best bike.. blah blah blah... " There's no debating that it is an UNREAL motorcycle.. BUT.. Rossi has taken the poll.. It's good to see that Honda is "HUMAN" after all I would love to see and hear all the "excuses" when or if he wins.. LOL.. NICE TO SEE.... GO ROSSI!!!

With the nicer weather, I'm in the mood to really get into some GP action!!!!

Originally posted by YZEtc Speed TV. Sunday, April 18, 2:00 pm, MOTOGP WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP Let me guess, but directv dont have Speed tv huh? Cause what i see for sunday 2pm on channel 607 is: 607 SPD NASCAR Live NASCAR Racing Am I just assed out?

That sucks. I have Adelphia Cable adn mine says Motorcycle Racing "Mot GP World CHamp" Maybe they just didn't update their guide?? I would think SpeedTV is SpeedTV.

OOOOOOOOH YEAH. The site updated and it now reflects......... 607 SPD Motorcycle Racing

Beautiful!

Watching it now and this shit is intense. Nice

My first time watching this shit and dam that was good. I saw how it was going to get played from the last 10-11 laps. Biaggi is going to take him but cant hold him off for the last 2-3 laps. Dam fine riding. Rossi is just an animal.

That was a very good race. Rossi bringing it home for Yamaha!

Watching the WSB now. Ducati's rule in this format! I'd go riding but I have threads showing on my back. Should have my new Dunlops this Friday (hopefully)!

Rossi is definately the man:rock It almost looked like he was toying with Biagi.

Originally posted by Champions904 Rossi is definately the man:rock It almost looked like he was toying with Biagi. :no Sorry to disagree,but personally I think he was riding his :butt off. Even before the race,you could see it wasnt the usuall clowning around,smiling,joking Rossi that we regularly see-he was completley focussed on the race.Parking the bike,sitting down crying,reflecting on what he'd just achieved on the new machine was a good sight to see-seeing that he's human after all:fact As for the actuall race,well that was an awesome race.Was good to see Sete swapping positions for the first half of the race,but the highlight would have to have been the Itallian duel with Rossi,and Biaggi. Just my 0.2cents worth:thumbup

I don't know if he was necessarily crying but maybe relieved that he could do the impossible and show that with Yamaha, Honda can be defeated. First time you guys have been in the limelight for 2 years. Enjoy it, I can't even wait for the next one.

Originally posted by Ozzy_R1_demon :no Sorry to disagree,but personally I think he was riding his :butt off. Even before the race,you could see it wasnt the usuall clowning around,smiling,joking Rossi that we regularly see-he was completley focussed on the race.Parking the bike,sitting down crying,reflecting on what he'd just achieved on the new machine was a good sight to see-seeing that he's human after all:fact As for the actuall race,well that was an awesome race.Was good to see Sete swapping positions for the first half of the race,but the highlight would have to have been the Itallian duel with Rossi,and Biaggi. Just my 0.2cents worth:thumbup :iamwithst Rossi just showed why he is the best, and I think Biaggi is coming to grips with it. Rossi rode the M1 like it has never been ridden before, but he was spent. It will be interesting to see if he can keep it up emotionally.

Originally posted by Landshark92 I don't know if he was necessarily crying but maybe relieved that he could do the impossible and show that with Yamaha, Honda can be defeated. First time you guys have been in the limelight for 2 years. Enjoy it, I can't even wait for the next one. Alrght guys! Help me out, I am new to bike racing and watched two races today and have to say I enjoyed both. But I have a question, what is the diff between MotoGP and SuperBike? :corn Thanks!:thumbup

I would have to say that AMA superbike will continue to be only a borderline class ( read "almost" BS ) UNTIL Yamaha and Kawasaki re-enter the race.

Here's the way I view the diffrent formats Moto GP = Worlds Best Racer and Bikes competing globally WSB (World Super Bike)= Very Good Racers from all over the world competing globally AMA = Good riders competing in the United State based I say this very losley. It's not to say people in AMA couldn't beat someon in the WSB or is anyless. If nothing elese AMA you prove yourself adn then you either so good you go to GP or WSB. GP by far is hands down the best of the best in bikes and riders. Just my opinion.

motogp=prototype machinery, the best motorcycles a manufacturer can build, something will never be available for sale, the formula 1 of two wheels WSB=production based motorcycles modified for racing use. a feeding class for motogp right now.....all the good riders left for motogp.

MotoGP = Formula 1 WSB = Indy cars AMA = Nascar Rossi = Deity I = late for work.....so bye!

GO GO GO ROSSI !!!:thumbup

Rossi's the Man !!!:beer :thumbup

If you only watch one series, make it MotoGP. Even if you don't like the machinery or the riders, just look at the history in the making. What Rossi is doing is not only shutting up the naysayers, he is exceeding the expectations of even his fans and devotees.

Originally posted by Landshark92 If you only watch one series, make it MotoGP. Even if you don't like the machinery or the riders, just look at the history in the making. What Rossi is doing is not only shutting up the naysayers, he is exceeding the expectations of even his fans and devotees. I caught that just from watching that race on Sunday, but the other one with chili(sp?) was pretty cool too!! It is amazing watching them race at those speeds. I have total respect for their skills and having the nads to do it!!!:thumbup

Rossi is doing what Rainey did back in the day, on a Yamaha again!

Originally posted by Shakie Rossi is doing what Rainey did back in the day, on a Yamaha again! Yeah, but not as cleanly or gentlemanly as Rainey. If you'll notice, (for those of you who may have missed it) the last pass Rossi made on Biaggi, diving on the inside, Rossi then drifts wide to force Biaggi way out toward the edge of the track. This causes Biaggi to back off the throttle and lose momentum, thus giving Rossi a chance to build a small gap. All's fair in racing I know, but dirty tactics in my book.

Originally posted by nee.dragger Yeah, but not as cleanly or gentlemanly as Rainey. If you'll notice, (for those of you who may have missed it) the last pass Rossi made on Biaggi, diving on the inside, Rossi then drifts wide to force Biaggi way out toward the edge of the track. This causes Biaggi to back off the throttle and lose momentum, thus giving Rossi a chance to build a small gap. All's fair in racing I know, but dirty tactics in my book. I noticed that too. He basically took Biaggie out of his game plan BUT you also have to remember, he (Biaggi) has to watch for shit like that. He didnt adjust his strategy and hence his lost. This is not the first time this happened I am sure.

It's an old racers trick, but in the heat of battle, sometimes you concentrate too hard on trying to come back and forget about the stuff that other racers will do to hamper you.

Can I just say that Biaggi kinda left the door open for Vale? It was all decided when they tried to outbrake each other going into the corner. And then after the race, Biaggi shows respect for Vale. Thats real respect by doing everything he said he couldnt doe to to something else. This time he didn't say anything after the race and Rossi said it was 'very difficult '.That was a slow pull outta that last pass for the lead and the Yamaha didn't do too bad there but it seemed that the Hondas had the upper hand until almost the very end when Biaggi couldn't pull. Just wondering is two weeks enough development time for Vale and Yamaha going into Jerez.:)

I'm not debating the fact that Biaggi left the door open, he shouldn't have done that. And Biaggi didn't try to outbrake Rossi, otherwise, he wouldn't have left the door open. But all during the race, Rossi appeared to make that corner without going wide. But the time he takes it while passing Biaggi, he happens to take the corner too wide, forcing Biaggi out toward the dirty part of the track. And Biaggi can't force his way back in or lean on Rossi, cause if he does, he goes down. Rossi knows this as do all racers in that situation, so they're forced to stand the bike up, back off the throttle and lose any drive they might have off the corner. In my book, that's not the way to race. If you can't do it cleanly, I don't think you deserve the win. Biaggi can't say anything because Rossi didn't touch him. If he had, then Biaggi might have whined about it. But, there is always next time and Biaggi gave him respect because that's racing.

I don't know man, it looked like he went in there Extra HOT to make the pass and drifted wide in doing so. He made the pass, I have seen it done all the time.

If it was that hot, Rossi would have been a little further ahead of Biaggi instead of being at his front wheel. Nope, watch that part of the race again and you'll see, it was intentional.

Not agreeing or disagreeing but it look like Rossi could out-brake and corner just a tad better than Biaggi throughout the whole race. Am I the only one that saw how Rossi was beating the hell out of that M1? Alot of instability at times.

Originally posted by beafer Not agreeing or disagreeing but it look like Rossi could out-brake and corner just a tad better than Biaggi throughout the whole race. Am I the only one that saw how Rossi was beating the hell out of that M1? Alot of instability at times. I'm not stating that Rossi couldn't outbrake better than Biaggi, yes he could (and did numerous times). Since Rossi COULD, why did he happen to go wide on that corner at that particular time? It was purposely done to screw up Biaggi's drive out of the corner. THAT'S MY POINT! And as I stated before, it's an old racers trick.

no arguments here man. just a friendly debate. And yes you are right on his tactic but Biaggi should known Rossi was going to make a move. And most especially, he(biaggi) was going to get pushed out more in one of the corners. It was not like no one (who was paying attention to the race) didnt see that coming. It was slowly building up, corner by corner, up til that last intentional drift wide.

Originally posted by beafer . . . . And yes you are right on his tactic but Biaggi should known Rossi was going to make a move. And most especially, he(biaggi) was going to get pushed out more in one of the corners. It was not like no one (who was paying attention to the race) didnt see that coming. It was slowly building up, corner by corner, up til that last intentional drift wide. Yes, you are right, it is Biaggi's fault he let it happen. But as I stated earlier, in the heat of battle, you can't remember every little dirty tactic that other riders may push your way. You are too busy trying to stay with your game plan, or make up for the pass or deal with the pressure the other rider is giving you. What irks me is that Rossi can do what he did and no one says a word. But I guarantee that if Biaggi would have done the same move, everyone would be jumping up and down protesting. Mick Doohan was same way , but no one ever paid it any attention or said anything. But if the other riders did the same moves to Mick, he whined and protested.

Well, I figured since they celebrated eachothers racing at the end, it was cool. The two have a history of rivalry. All up to that point, Biaggi has always had some complaint, something to believe he couldn't win it all. Now, he has none of those things. He has matured that he recognizes Rossi as the only true thing stopping him from winning it. And it was on the slowest track as well. He is already looking good at Honda. Who do you think is gonna get all the speed parts from Honda if Biaggi keeps getting second? With that kinda determination, this is gonna be real interesting to see how things unfold.

Plus, didnt you read Biaggi's statements? He really respected the race, he said that one may be the best one of his career. And Rossi said it was for sure. They are both proud of what they have done on Sunday. So take this one, tape it and put it right on the shelf next to the WSB race Edwards and..., ya know which one. If Biaggi won it all in the same fashion, we would still congratulate him the same. Did you see where fourth place was, all three of them smoked the field, and a lot of people were running under Rossi's old lap record when he was on the HRC bike.

My view of that passing manouver is that Rossi came into that corner a bit to hot, had to keep the bike upright to break down a bit more and therefore was forced to run wide. Biaggi just was on the wrong side there. But we will never know unless Rossi tells ;)

I agree I think Rossi did not do it in purpose. I think they were both at the limit and Max left a bit too much space going in the corner. Rossi took advantage of it as any racer would have done.......saying he ran it wide in purpose is a little too much speculation.