PLEASE! I have seen all of you making a lot of rolling burnout but i can´t make because my front wheel seems to bloc and its very slippery. I cant begin to burn my rear tire when I´m rollin fsat or slow. Please tell me what I´m doing wrong.
And my bike ´00 R1 does NOT wheeli ind 2cnd gear with only gas and I dont believe yours. Of course if you tell me how...
Sorry for my poor English.

Rolling Burnout: Get rolling about 5-10 mph, then stand up, put your weight over the front wheel, then tap the front brakes to the loan the front end. While you do this, rev it up to about 5500-6500 rpm and let the clutcth out quickly. Don't dump it, but do it fast; you don't want to slip it out. Once it starts spinning, just give it moderate throttle, and trail the front brake.

Wheelies: Your bike WILL wheelie in 2nd without the clutch. Don't blame the bike for your lack of ability. What you need to do it get the revs it to about 6000, let off the throttle, then in a coordinated movement; move your weight back, tug on the bars, and whack the throttle open. None of these movement should be done violently, but it should be deliberate. Try this and then tell me that it won't wheelie. DON'T FLIP IT!

SO how is Zaragosa this time of year? I was there about a year and a half ago. I love Spain, I cannot wait to go back. Take it easy.

Aitor!
You probably don´t have enough heat in your front tire. Ride along with your front brake on for a short while. This will heat up your rubber enough for it to grip.
As for rolling burnouts; roll along at walking speed in first gear. Then the hard part: get your clutch in, rev the engine up to about 7000 rpm or more, as you let the clutch out, lean forward over the tank and try to get as much weight as possible through the handlebars, and give it a dab of front brake as you let the clutch out. If you´ve done this right your back wheel should be spinning. Keep the revs high and some front brake on, and you should be rolling and burning out, all at the same time.

Second gear wheelies:
Gas it through first gear, shift to second, open throttle, wait. It SHOULD wheelie, unless you have a slip-on silencer but no jet kit.

If this is the case do like this:
As above, but as you hit 7000 rpm in second gear, roll off the throttle and on again, real quick. If this doesn´t make it wheelie, go to your local bike shop and let them remove the restrictors...

Good luck!

Dude,

My R6 will power wheelie in 2nd without the clutch.

bongoray: I so damn much want to see that. Can you pretty please send me some video footage of you on your R6 or someone else on the R6 doing tricks and stuff? please!
I'm on a fast internet connection!

wait a minute. you mean to tell me if you have a slip on pie with no jet kit your bike wont be as powerful:rolleyes:

HEY BOYS! I HAVE TRIED ALL OF THAT YOU SAY , AND IT DOES NOT COME UP. MY NBIKE ITS ALL STOCK, DO YOU THING THAT ITS NO GOOD?. IT MAKES 305 KM/H IN JUST A FEW MTS. AND ITS FASTER IN ACCELERATION AS AN 1100 XX OF A FRIEND.
YESTERDAY I DROVE THIS ONE AND I FEEL THAT HAS MORE "PUNCH" IN THE MIDDLE REVOLUTION, WHAT DO YOU THINK? :(

TURN OFF CAPS LOCK

To your problem...

Solution.. while in second.. go to about 6-7k... accelerate further.. drop the clutch as you still 'accelerate using throttle'... and snap the clutch right out again and it will fly up, literally.

But if you're scared... you will not be able to pull it off.

Aother thing you can try is to stand up as you accelerate HARD in 2nd.. it will come up without any clutch/bounce/pull.
Just make sure to lean backwards as much as possible.
This will probably scare you even further when the bike eventually comes up because this demands a bit more balance from your part.

.....most likely you're just scared of wheeling.

Have you done ANY modifications to your bike? if so.. list them here please.

JuttsR1: Yes, that´s what I´m saying. I had a MIG highpipe on my "new" R1, and it wasn´t as strong in the midrange as my "old" R1 was, which was completely standard. I put the stock silencer back on the "new" one, and presto! Midrange restored. But a jetkit would do the same. But that would mean <money out> which is worse than <money in> from selling the MIG exhaust.

Dear Swedie: Are you telling me that I´m scared of wheelis? NO! I´m triyng to know if my bike does not go like it should. I´m a good rider with thousands of km. in and outside of circuits and not everybody can follow me( I promise), but my totally stock ´00´r1 with no changes at all does NOT wheeli in 2cnd with only gas . you can pull the bars, lean forward , rev to 7,8, 9k or else and does NOT come up. I´m starting to think in the EXUP, if it´s catch in the "open", it will have all the power up but will not have mid-range.Or maybe jetting?Someone has heard something about that?

Hey swedie, u got full mig or slip, how can I tell?:bash

Then I take that back Aitor :hellobye
If it doesn't wheelie even that way.. then you might have some problems.. and that I cannot solve.
It could be a possible leak in the carburators.. some kind of "turbulence" occuring .. which later on clears out as the wind/pressure increases.

Let someone else owning an R1 test your bike. Or You test someone elses R1.

R1@150@alltimes: I got a slipon of the MIG high exhaust. Probably no way of telling just by looking at the pictures.

OK, ty...

Thaks Swedie. I have talked with my mechanic this afternoon and he have told me that there are some kind of limitation wich let the bike to run as fast as the other bikes but you loose some punch and acceleration. I´ll tell you what happens!
other things I have pics of my bike with undertail, steering damper, frame sliders, blue glass and blue ligths, would you like to see it?
Thanks and bye! :rock

Of course I (we) wanna see it :D

post it in the Pictures area oft he site

i just wanted to say i have a 01 r1 with full hindle and jets and my bike comes up no problem in third no clutch. and fourth gear i can get it up with a little bounce. i get going about 65 or 70 let off and hit it and ride it all the way till about 120. my longest wheelie has been almost a mile. just keep practicing the bike is more then capable

Mr. talley2323: I must recognice that I´m not not the best stunt-man I have seem, but if it´s so simple like you say, I know that I will be able to do it. But really I think my bike has a problem, ´cos it hard comes an inch when you hit the gas in 2cnd, not to mention in 3rd.
Please tell me more about it: rev´s when you gas, lean forward or pull the bars strong, soft....
Thanks folks!
:makeout

Aitor....

Use the on/off version.

You accelerate .. get off the throttle and then wack it open and at the same time pull the bars.. this could very well flip the bike in 2nd.

Are you small as person? if so.. it might be you're not getting enough force backwards.. but then again.. if you're that small. You should be able to wheelie it any day in 2nd.

Or do a standup wheelie.... while in 2nd.. accelerate.. bounce the bike so the front suspension compress "wack" the throttle...

But man! BE CAREFUL!

Swedie: When you say "bounce" what do you mean?, I don´t understand what are you saying. I ´m not a small person at all and I can say you i´m pulling so strog the bars that i think i´m gonna wreck it.
:(

Maybe you're just not bright enough to understand the physics/geogemetry of the bike... If you know how the bike works.. you should be able to pull wheelies whenever you want in pretty much and gear HEHE :)

With Bounce I mean that you should JUMP (very little) and as you come back down.. you press with both your feets on the foot pegs .. this will compress your suspension. And as the suspension goes back up... the upforce and with the snap of the throttle will make the bike wheelie incredible easy.

I wheelied my RR '93 in 6th gear that way. I think I'll actually show you the video.. Watch it carefully and see what I'm doing..
http://www.demonews.com/mc/6thgearwheelie.mpg
You won't have to do it as extreme as I did.. cuz the R1 is much more powerful and should need only a LITTLE bounce to get enough upwards pull to wheelies @ 5-6k RPM in 2nd gear. And all this WITHOUT any clutch.

Maybe you can let a friend video tape as you attempt to pull a wheelie? Then I can watch it and tell you what you are doing wrong..

Most likely you're just timing everything wrong.. which will mean that each force in the bike work against eachother and therefore NO wheelie.

I think you´re right, I´m doing all of these things but I´m noy sure if I´m doing like you say.
It´s raining now but then I´ll try slower and thinking of what I´m doing, and I´ll tell you.
It´s a good idea to film my (poor) wheelie and send you, thhis weekend I´ll do.
Bye and thanks!




One thing: dont laught at me!!!!!

Great! just let me know (in here) when you got a video to show.

I don't think I can help you any more from what you have said.. so the next best thing is the video.

Originally posted by Aitor
I think you´re right, I´m doing all of these things but I´m noy sure if I´m doing like you say.
It´s raining now but then I´ll try slower and thinking of what I´m doing, and I´ll tell you.
It´s a good idea to film my (poor) wheelie and send you, thhis weekend I´ll do.
Bye and thanks!




One thing: dont laught at me!!!!!

It is a good idea to video yourself beacuse then you relize how high you are really getting(or not getting) and you can see what you need to do. I have a friend I need to do that for,he will pull it up and freak out,thinking he is vertical when in all reality he is not even close.

aitor... the rpms are around 6000 or 6500.....however i do my wheelies standing up which makes a big difference. however it takes some time to get used to them but they are much easier then sitting down. give it a try and let us all know

Talley2323: I think you´re rigth, I have seen some of you makin stand up wheelies and it seems to be easier. I have tried a couple of times and I fell myself more confortable up there. You dont have the feeling that you´re gonna fall on your back, but I dont know the exact moment to come up: when the bike is up, before, or when is coming up?
:( :( :( :(

Hey Sweedie,

I'll try and get you some footage of me on the R6. I just got the software to capture video off my digital camera. I don't have any footage of power wheelies, but I do have nice footage of a 2nd gear wheelie, then me shifting into 3rd.

As soon as I figure this stuff out I'll either mail it to you or find a way to post it online.

As far as wheeliing in 2nd on an R6, clutch is easiest, but it will power wheelie easily. You have to be going around 50 mph, then roll on the gas until you hit 65 or so. Chop the throttle, then whack it open and she comes up fast. It'll also wheelie in 3rd doing the same and giving the bars a tug, or using the bounce method.

Bongo:rock

bongoray: Great! There aren't many videos out there with R6's in them. So the more the better.

Aitor: get us videos. :)

I did it!!!
You were right!! It comes up ind 2cnd whith only gas!!
I was doing wrong, You must take it easy and do it slowly at 6000 rpm cut off gas , then hit it and it comes!!
I can make it , but I recognize I must practice, but I will do it rigth.
Next I´ll try stand-ups.
Hey , swedie, why don´t you make a " HOW TO" step by step whith pics of all the tricks all of you can do?
It will be very fun and useful to the rest of us.:D :D :D :D :D

hehehe !I'm thinking of doing that. But right now .. it's still winter and spring has to arrive before I roll out the bike.

But congrats! I know it was of newbie-ness you couldn't perform the wheelie :D

So when I'm comfy are you gonna make me "BADASS" too?????:D

I think you´re rigth, I have seen some of you makin stand up wheelies and it seems to be easier. I have tried a couple of times and I fell myself more confortable up there. You dont have the feeling that you´re gonna fall on your back, but I dont know the exact moment to come up: when the bike is up, before, or when is coming up?

What is everybody's recommendation on the last sentence. I'm looking at trying the stand up wheelie for the first time. I can do sit down ones but I'm want to know the technique for the stand up wheelie before I try it. So do you stand up before you wheelie, after you get it up, as it is coming up or what? Also, what is recommended gear to be in? Thx, in advance.

Start off doing them in second, you can choose whichever is better for you,I either stand up as the bike is coming up or stand up first depends on my mood I guess. If you want to start off sitting down that is fine also......but remember to only use your legs to stand up,do not pull with your arms to stand,I am pretty sure I do not have to explain why

Thanks for the advice Twisted! Cool new website you started up too. I saw the link from one of the other postings here on this site.

I'm pretty proficient at my 1st gear wheelies (although the R1 comes up so easily, I feel like I'm cheating). The only time I've been able to pull it up in 2nd is when going off the end of small hills and whatnot (which we have a lot of in San Francisco).

So two questions:

1. When you say slide your weight back, are we talking all the way to the back of the seat? When I ride normally I tend to keep my n*ts right on the tank, and it'll come up in 1st just scooting back a few inches. Or not. It'll come up in 1st pretty much no matter what I do...

2. When you say "whack" the throttle, exactly how much throttle is required? Does "whack" mean twist the throttle to the stop? Half throttle? It doesnt seem to work with the same throttle that you'd use in first gear, but I've yet to find the right combination for 2nd gear.

Thanks.

Aa.

You should be able to just scoot back(start with moving back about half way in the seat) roll on the throttle till you hit about 5000rpm then let off the gas and back on hard(you will have to play with it to get the feel)What you are doing is loading up th efront end and using the rebound to help the bike up. Your bike WILL come up in second and third in a stand up,I guarantee I could do fourth gear standups on the freeway with Mach5er's stock R1(well it has a pipe on it)It just takes practice,but use baby steps or you will get hurt and nobody wants that :cool:

im only 155 to 160 pounds and have no trouble what so ever getting a great second gear weelie without the use of the clutch, sheeeet i dont even need to dump and bump. Maybe you should try giving it some gas instead of talking out of your :butt ....

Bones

Originally posted by Swedie
Then I take that back Aitor :hellobye
If it doesn't wheelie even that way.. then you might have some problems.. and that I cannot solve.
It could be a possible leak in the carburators.. some kind of "turbulence" occuring .. which later on clears out as the wind/pressure increases.

Let someone else owning an R1 test your bike. Or You test someone elses R1.

R1@150@alltimes: I got a slipon of the MIG high exhaust. Probably no way of telling just by looking at the pictures.

laughin my:butt off. try it on someone elses
"NOT MINE":butt

Just one comment. I noticed you say on two occasions 'leaning forward'. If you mean leaning towards the front of the bike, you do NOT want to do that for wheelies. You want to shift you weight towards the back of the bike. In an extreme example just try sitting on the passenger seat when you wheelie. Don't lean so far back you sacrifice control of the handlebars and your footing on the pegs, but in general shifting your weight UP and towards the REAR help with wheelies. Staying low and towards the front of the bike hurts wheelies.

If you ever drag race your bike, the recommending positioning is essentially putting your chest right on top of the tank. This gets your body as far forward as you can safely be and as low as you can get it. This will allow you to get the best launch possible without wheelieing. Wheelies are bad for acceleration.

Also, leaning forward IS good for burnouts in general. The idea being to get as much weight OFF the rear tire as possible, making it easier to spin the tire. As well as getting as much weight over the front tire, making it harder to push the front end.

Hey you don't by any chance have one of those R1s that they are selling in France that are regulated to 99horsepower do you? I have heard of a few of those things slipping out.....

:yesnod

OK, I'm just a lame old man who only started learning to wheelie in the last year or so. On throttle I can pull it near vertical :eek: in first and run it to the rev limiter, and I'm working on learning to shift on the "fly." When I try to get my (156 bhp) '99 up in second on throttle all I get is a little bounce. There is obviously more than machine involved here. I'll try your tips though and report my results.