MotoGP Assen **SPOILER WARNING**

Here's the MotoGP Assen results, Rossi's on a roll! http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2004/Jun/040626b.htm :beer

As a die hard Sete Gibernau fan, Rossi didnt deserve that win!!! But logic dictates... thats racing, if rossi didnt have the guts to pull of that kind of manouevre in the race it'll be boring as hell. I was absolutely devastated... I though gibernau can win that race :( I hate to see this season be a repeat of 2003, gibernau lost the championship because he had too many 2nd place. Right now is the best time to win the championship since the yamaha isnt fully sorted out yet, next year I'll bet it'll be more powerfull and we could see all fortuna yamaha riders, Rossi, Checa and Melandri on the podium at the same time.

"Lose the front and almost fell" my ass... he was holding a tight line and he braked. That was downright dirty. But he did it cuz he knows if he let Sete continue with his pace he's gonna lose it in the straights before the start-finish line. Sete knows it, Vale knows it, but I think what irritates Sete the most is that Rossi wont admit it, and it shows in his expression. I'm pissed (which is very very obvious):rant

Originally posted by EliminatorR1 As a die hard Sete Gibernau fan, Rossi didnt deserve that win!!! But logic dictates... thats racing, if rossi didnt have the guts to pull of that kind of manouevre in the race it'll be boring as hell. I was absolutely devastated... I though gibernau can win that race :( I agree 100%:fact While Rossi is one of my fav riders,gotta feel for Sete-he did everything he had to in that race for a win and has battling as hard as possible to get some wins on the board. While it looks like its going to definatley be a 2 man race for the title this season,hopefully Sete doesnt drop his head and is able to get a few 1st possitions to boost his confidence.

Rossi wouldnt do that on purpose, I dont think sete is to much of a good sport anywyas, whenever Rossi wins Sete puts his helmet on the podium and always makes excuses why Rossi won and he didnt, Rossi is the winner fair and square, everybody makes mistakes sometimes.

Rossi lies? :confused: Aahahahahah :D See this... Rossi lose the front (http://motogp.tiscali.com/ppv_multimedia2/283/283891.wmv) Gibe sux! :finger

Damn anyoen see Alex Baros lose it? :confused: :cryin

Originally posted by Grant Rossi wouldnt do that on purpose, I dont think sete is to much of a good sport anywyas, whenever Rossi wins Sete puts his helmet on the podium and always makes excuses why Rossi won and he didnt, Rossi is the winner fair and square, everybody makes mistakes sometimes. While I do find it curious that he always put his helmet on the podium no matter what position he finished in I always thought thats more of a covenience thingy. I never put my helmet on the floor where I'm standing as I think that degenerative behaviour, levelling your head protector same as your foot (gr?) But i never ever seen him blame anybody for any result that he got in a race. He always said, the better guy wins... congrats to the winner, he have to work harder in the next race, of it shit happens (like last Sat) "it's racing". I seen max blame everybody though. and btw miki, didnt look like to me that he lost his front end from the video as he did stay on the racing line throughout the corner. The only one who went wide was sete, but you being italian I understand your blind passion and enthusiasm for rossi and any italian marque or rider ;)

Rossi won, period. It's racing. He is better rider than anyone on the field. I mean, common!!! What will we hear if he wins the championship? - That he was riding on a better "factory" backed bike? Nothing is ever good enough when this guy wins. First is because he is riding factory Honda, so he goes to Yamaha, now its because he rides dirty..... common fellas... Its like they said on Faster movie... He will follow, follow, follow and then boom, checks out..... simple as that.... Sete gave him room, he took the inside and was gone. Man knows how to ride.... Thing I though was funny was Max Biaggi...kind of funny how Melandri took 3rd place :lol What will Biaggi say now? That he is not riding Yamaha ??? :lol

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Maxxym [B]Rossi won, period. It's racing. He is better rider than anyone on the field. I mean, common!!! What will we hear if he wins the championship? - That he was riding on a better "factory" backed bike? Nothing is ever good enough when this guy wins. First is because he is riding factory Honda, so he goes to Yamaha, now its because he rides dirty..... common fellas... Its like they said on Faster movie... He will follow, follow, follow and then boom, checks out..... simple as that.... Sete gave him room, he took the inside and was gone. Man knows how to ride.... :iamwithst That move was 100% legal, Rossi waited and saw his chance. I think Sete was more pissed off with himself than Rossi for leaving the door open no matter how slightly. Sete would have done the same thing given the chance... Its called racing I also think that Max has had his chance, I dont believe that there will be another chance for him, if he can't do it this year then bye bye Max

Well interestingly, setes's bike are not factory honda bike. Infact Gresini racing was the first non factory team to recieve RC211V. I didnt sat rossi wins in the yamaha cus he fight dirty, i said in this round it was not a clean fight. Well at motogp.com biaggi said, his bike was a lot slower in the corners sometime up to 20km/h slower than the yamaha (if i recall correctly). Although he was faster at the straight, the gap opened by melandri in the corner was too big. That yammie can handle better than anything else on the track and it shows. For me rider of the day was nicky hayden.... man, 16th on the gird and ended up in 5th... what a ride (but of course he's on the factory honda :lol ;))

Originally posted by EliminatorR1 Well interestingly, setes's bike are not factory honda bike. Infact Gresini racing was the first non factory team to recieve RC211V. I didnt sat rossi wins in the yamaha cus he fight dirty, i said in this round it was not a clean fight. Well at motogp.com biaggi said, his bike was a lot slower in the corners sometime up to 20km/h slower than the yamaha (if i recall correctly). Although he was faster at the straight, the gap opened by melandri in the corner was too big. That yammie can handle better than anything else on the track and it shows. For me rider of the day was nicky hayden.... man, 16th on the gird and ended up in 5th... what a ride (but of course he's on the factory honda :lol ;)) As we can all see clearly this season, having faster bike does not mean shiat....It's the rider. Noone could do what Rossi is doing with Yamaha this season. Even comentators keep saying"Lookkkkkk at Rosssssiiii... noone ever rode that Yamaha M1 that way...." Biaggi's bike is always slower according to him :lol Maybe that's why Rossi stuffed him so many time first race of the season first time on the new bike racing..... Niky kicked ass!!!! I bet you if they had one more lap, he would be on the podium. He was VERY close to Biaggi when they crossed the line. I think maybe if everyone started race 10 seconds before Rossi and then when he wins, it would be considered fair win for him :sleep It's like he said himself :" If other guy wins the race, it's because he made this beautifull pass, if I win the race, it's because I am on the better bike"

It has always been a strategy of Rossi's to play the mind game as well as he rides. In front of the camera its all sh!ts & giggles. In the paddock its all about the mental advantage. Thats why he often waits all day in testing or qualifying then comes out whoops everyone on laptimes. Right now Sete is starting to genuinely question his own ability to beat Rossi which is exactly what Rossi sets out to acheive. To make them all question themselves just long enough to create an advantage for himself. And it works. Its why Sete couldn't help but leave an opening for Vale to slip through, then too panic and put himself in a dangerous position trying to recover. Sete didn't mean to, he just couldn't help it. Rossi was inside his head and he was visibly rattled. AND. Thats why Rossi waits until the last lap to make his move, just to drive the knife into Sete a little deeper and let him know that Rossi can steal a win whenever he wants and there ain't nothing Sete can do about it acecpt pray for rain. Rossi just F***** his head..... Royaly. And Rossi's season is just going to get easier. (Although bring on the airstrip straight and tight turns of Brazil to make him really work for it) As for Rossi riding dirty, what a joke. On a doco I was watching on the weekend I discovered that Rossi, much to Jerry Burgess' disgust, used to have his throttle wound back when at Honda so that he would have RACE to other riders. It's no fun for him if he's not 'competing' and getting REAL wins. He wants the win where the other guy has the advantage. And stop making excuses for Sete. He's man enough accept defeat, no matter how bitter a pill it is to swallow. Do you think he'd appreciate you making excuses on his behalf. I don't. ontiK

My two cents here guys! Awesome race...wtf did Barros do to load the rear like that??? It simply looked as though Sete moved over...if you watch the race again (Tivo!) the last few laps Vale took a few corners with dif. lines! He was so much faster through certain corners....then it looked as if agression on the brakes paid off...Sete simply moved to the middle to set up that last corner. Here is the thing..the lastest Cycle News has some juicy tidbits about the Honda vs. Yamaha thing. HRC basically makes changes as they see fit...that is why Vale did not get along with them. Nicky and Colin have been open about the new chassis design and all the damn chatter at both ends...especially when the tires go off!!! Nicky was quoted as saying they basically give him a bike and tell him "it's awesome...go win with it...." I guess the Honda is not designed with much adjustment...the Yammy is and Vale has made suggestions for improvement and results follow!!!!!!!!:bow

I thought it was also a clean race as well. It was almost as Rossi was just letting Gib set the pace and leaving all the pressure on him, then when he saw the right chance at the right time he took it. Seems pretty smart to me.

Just a little off track here but did anyone happen to watch the 125's race? OMG!!!!!! Those dudes are nuts!! The last lap was some of the loooooniest riding I've ever seen. They looked more like a hyped up version of multiball at the pinball arcade than jnr GP riders. Crazy Stuff. ontiK.

i won't get involved as to whether it was a dirty move or not, but man that was as entertaining a race as you could possibly ask for...good stuff. did you guys see zemke pull it out over duhamel? that was awesome to watch also....and before that the middleweights...the hayden bros battling...yesterday afternoon was awesome!

I remember seeing the video of Yamaha introducing Vale as their rider and how Vale went on and on about how weak the bike was and how much work they needed to do to be competitive. I didn't know anything about Rossi and I thought that his engineers/mechanics were going to hate him after that or that he was just making excuses. How wrong I was. Obviously, Rossi has inspired his team to compete at the highest level. I'm new to MotoGP racing but I still have to say that Rossi must surely be one of the best of all time. Sete is going to have to change his strategy. I can't imagine what it is like to run balls to the wall for 19 laps all the while knowing that Rossi is right behind and never knowing which turn he will slip past you. I guess that Sete can't see what is behind him or hear anything. Once a lap he can check out the board and see how many hundredths of a second he is ahead of 46. I wonder if Sete will turn the tables on Rossi and give him a taste of his own medicine in the future. Another great race!