Graves Motorsports Rearsets..

http://www.r1-forum.com/featuredproducts/graves_rearsets.jpg When it came time for me to change up the main page "Featured Product" on the R1-forum.com I put my bike in the middle of the showroom at the shop and began asking myself, what's always been the first thing I do to my bikes...? Rearsets... No mod to any of the R1's I've ever owned (ALOT) has ever improved the total and overall feel of our shop bikes then a NEW set a rearsets... 9 times our of 10 we turn to Graves for there race proven and designed units ... :fact First on the agenda are the 98-03 R1 units.. Part # RS020 http://www.tobefast.com/images/pic_46.jpg These units are totally adjustable... For peg height.. it's almost overkill the amount of adjustability these rearsets provide. These are the rearsets I'd choose hands down as the most versatile models on the market. These are fully adjustable, CMC machined and allow the gear shift pattern to be reversed (specify gear pattern you desire or if you want both options). Adjustable in 10mm increments. Black anodizing on these models perfectly compliment the race inspired Graves rearsets! We use these on our shop R1's in road race trim and they are some of the best rearsets we have ever used... hands down... Improves shifting when properly set up.. Next we have the 04 R1 all NEW NON-adjustable untis. Part # RS029KR http://www.tobefast.com/images/gms04_11.jpg Graves anodized black 2004 R1 rearsets. These are the same units used on the winning AMA Superstock R1's. Non adjustable setup is 10 mm higher and 10 mm back from stock position. Setup for reverse shifting (GP sytle, 1 up and 5 down). The shift rod is outside the frame for a more direct link. Your brake sensor is discarded with this setup also. Install on both setups is fairly painless. Alot of people will tell you once you go GP (reverse) shift you will never go back and I'm one of those.. The "direct" link the Graves setup provides outside the frame draws a unique and solid configuaration for flawless shifting on each of the units.. The 98-03 models have a billet machined and designed heal guard. While the 04's have the all new carbon heal guards. Both a trick and tasty bits of machined ART for sure..! Improved grip with the machined (a replaceable pegs) will keep you in place on the track or street for years to come. One thing to keep in mind: these trick units do not retain the rear brake sensor so you can just zip that sensor out of the way. For street riding your tail light comes on anytime you hit the front brakes anyway. Everything else about these units is plug and play. You won't be disapointed with the Graves quality you've come to expect. Graves even sells shift rods that are specifically setup for the new Dyno Jet quickshifter pc3 USB units. Hope you enjoy the brief write up and if you have any Graves rearset pictures feel free to post them up. Available from forum sponsor.. www.tobefast.com and www.gravesports.com :thumbup

they are pretty sweet

_ THanks... :)

Why aren't the 04 ones adjustable ? and yes the are sweet

The 04's are 10 mm higher and 10mm back then the stock riding position. That is the same positioning that all of the Yamaha / Graves Superstock racing team uses on there bikes. So the major majority of the rearset buying market want them set up the same way plus they are cheaper then the adjustable ones.. Going up much more then that will offer too much of a cramped leg position for the average rider...

personally, i would always choose the Gilles units over the Graves units, and here are my reasons. 1. GP shifting? With the Gilles, you get the choice without having to think about it. Also, whether you want standard or GP shift, the shift rod is routed through the frame, just like stock. 2. Slick Shifting? NO one will ever convince me that you can have better shifting than the Gilles when properly set-up. Yes it took me a few tries to get them perfect, but once there, the shifting is precise and very easy due to the amount of adjustability to the two different shift rods on the Gilles. 3. Powdercoating? The black powdercoating on most rearsets, including graves is a gloss finish, and in my opinion looks wrong when paired up with the flat finish of the frame on the later model R1's. The finishes on the Gilles are meant to offset them from the bike while still providing a flat finish. 4. Adjustability? The Gilles have enough adjustability for anyone. Period. If you need more adjustment than they offer, than you need a different bike. I'd suggest a hayabusa.:crash 5. Strength? Unfortunately i weigh a bit on the heavy side, and i also use my feet A LOT for steering inputs when going from side to side on my bike, and i can say without a doubt, that the Gilles are strong enough for anyone. 6. Brakes? The Gilles allow you to keep your stock brake light switch if desired. They include a bracket at no extra charge to allow you to mount the switch right to the rearset. Or if you wish, you can get a pressure switch banjo bolt and bolt that on, and remove the switch bracket. 7. The Gilles include a carbon heel guard for the left foot. while it is a simple looking piece, it is very functional and plenty strong. Now for a few other comments and dislikes. One thing i really like about them is that they are shipped assembled and attached to a small bracket. This allows you to see exactly how they should be assembled on the bike. this is good, because the instructions included, leave much to be desired. also, if you are getting them before getting brake lines, spend some time and measure your rear line after install, because the way they install, you could use a much shorter line that would look much better. so a custom line is a possibility. However they do work fine with the stock line. Finally, they do not come with a matching carbon heelguard for the right side. it is not really necessary, however aesthetically it would be an improvement. BTW, in case your wondering, i got my Gilles from Shane...:crash

Thanks buhda, I've got some good gilles pictures also you wanna put up that review too.. We can link to the sales page for them and post up some pictures along with it.. :thumbup The only comments I can add if you are comparing the two (cause they are both great and my top two choices in rearsets, I've used all 3 mentioned here Gilles and both Graves models) Graves design does not flex like the gilles... I can stand on the gilles and slightly move up and down and feel the pegs flex (I'm sure you know what I mean) and there is also some flex in the levers.. That isn't the case with the Graves at all, which also have larger sealed bearings at the pivot points.. They are ALOT thicker is design.. Comparing the levers alone will reveal that. With the Graves you get real carbon molded guards (3 times thicker then the paper thin gilles) and two of them.. I like both setups don't get me wrong I just don't think there is much comparison in the build when you put the two side to side... The gilles do have the brake mounts I'll give it that but there is rarely a time you not on the front brakes to activate the lighting anyways. :)

My friend had a Gilles peg break off when dropping it form 2 mph. When comparing mine to his I like Graves mine of course were Shane's ;) at one time GRAVES ....I like Sato and Arata too Mike

Any input on SATO rear sets guys. I just need opinions, as they are closer to home. Shane, I know that you don't know me apart from the forums and I have been checking out your comapny payment systems, but I just found out that Western Union in Oman will charge me a bundle for a wire transfer to the states. I gave them a figure of USD$3,000 and after they've taken their cut, all I'm left with is around USD$2,499. BELIEVE IT OR NOT. I know wire transfers are expensive, but jeez, can you enlighten me...!!! :dunno

Use the bank "wire transfer" option... It's easy for your bank to do it that way and it typically takes about 3-4 days to complete a transfer.. Once our "international" order technician has all the parts you need added up with shipping he can get you the total you would owe us and you give that to your bank and they can let you know what your fees are...

One thing I didn't mention.. but you can flip the "cog" that goes on the transmission around and have standard shifting with the 04 graves setup.. We did it on one of our bikes and it worked fine...

Originally posted by 02R1guy My friend had a Gilles peg break off when dropping it form 2 mph. :no :bs

Originally posted by R1Budha :no :bs I'm lying now ???? I gain nothing by lying but :finger you anyway R1 in NYC is his name the bike landed hard so maybe thats why but it still broke

Originally posted by SpidermanSS Use the bank "wire transfer" option... It's easy for your bank to do it that way and it typically takes about 3-4 days to complete a transfer.. Once our "international" order technician has all the parts you need added up with shipping he can get you the total you would owe us and you give that to your bank and they can let you know what your fees are... Shane I have already looked at that option, butI will have closer scrutiny, as my bank isn't multi-national, but I will do some more homework. Thanks for the reply, Cheers Warp...:hellobye

Any chance of doing a "group purchase" on the rearsets ('02/'03 model for me)? Price including shipping to Eastern Canada? Just curious.

I'm sure if enough wanted them I could get them priced a little better for you... :) let me know how many units your talking about..

Originally posted by SpidermanSS I'm sure if enough wanted them I could get them priced a little better for you... :) let me know how many units your talking about.. I wonder if there would be enough interest on this forum.... All the same, could you PM me a price for the rearsets and a set of velocity stacks for an '02 R1, including shipping to Eastern Canada, based on an individual purchase? Thanks in advance.

I wish there was a group buy on the 04' rearsets.

start up a list... if I can get over 5 that will actually commint we'll see what I can do.. :thumbup

i need to know the STRONGEST rearsets available. I've had 2 of my friends 02 R1's pegs break off during standups and I don't want the same to happen to me. Can you guys help me out? all the moto gp stuff and adjustability doesn't matter to me, I'm looking for strength! thanks Kris

The graves 02-03 R1 rearsets are the strongest I've seen... :fact

Originally posted by SpidermanSS The graves 02-03 R1 rearsets are the strongest I've seen... :fact Improves shifting when properly set up.. How hard are the Graves to properly set up? What's the spring on the footpeg for? :beer PM sent

could someone post pics of the gilles rearsets and the prices/where to buy them? im with stompin, i know the guys whose stock rearsets broke. i need strength, but i do want something asthetically pleasant. i like how the gilles can be routed through the frame and keep the sensor....how are they compared to graves srtength?comparable? im 6'1" 250lbs.....i dont wanna be breakin a peg

Originally posted by eldiablo531ff2 could someone post pics of the gilles rearsets and the prices/where to buy them? im with stompin, i know the guys whose stock rearsets broke. i need strength, but i do want something asthetically pleasant. i like how the gilles can be routed through the frame and keep the sensor....how are they compared to graves srtength?comparable? im 6'1" 250lbs.....i dont wanna be breakin a peg www.mrflamingostravels.com/images/forks

Graves rear sets are nice!!!! but they are not whats on the graves yamaha race bikes. they may look like what you can buy but they are not!!! all the graves team's rear sets and clip on's are custom cut to rider preference. hell the fairing brackets on their bikes looks totaly different!!! I know this for fact as I spoke to their team mechanics at VIR (nice guys). But for what you can buy I think graves puts out the best product, no matter what you buy from them.

I purchased the "Graves fixed rear sets" with reverse shifting. How do you know if you got the correct part in regard to reverse shifting. More importantly, is the picture on the graves website show the reverse shifting part or is that standard shifting that is displayed?