200 mph build

[Guate]

It is possible to hit 200mph without a lot of mods, some gearing changes and ecm programing, and like Z06 said, you'll need a good distance to achieve such speed, it has been done before, mind you....it was a CBR. http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...cord-by-woman/

[rexmitchell]

Originally Posted by KMac

Nevermind, I just saw your craigslist ad in another post ( http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac...384619864.html ) and I'm convinced you did not hit 196 mph........or even close.

Indicated speed isn't actual speed, or even close to it sometimes

[nossliw]

Originally Posted by Guate

It is possible to hit 200mph without a lot of mods, some gearing changes and ecm programing, and like Z06 said, you'll need a good distance to achieve such speed, it has been done before, mind you....it was a CBR. http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...cord-by-woman/

I'd tap that!

[polakw/aR1]

Originally Posted by KMac

He can put whatever sprocket he wants on that bike, with just an exhaust and a map he can twist the throttle until doomsday and he's not going to get to 196.



Maybe his speedo said 196 for a variety of reasons and errors, but it wasn't actual.

But its a titanium exhaust, that alone should get him close.

Originally Posted by Gearheaded

i have never seen that picture, awesome.

[KMac]

Originally Posted by Guate

It is possible to hit 200mph without a lot of mods, some gearing changes and ecm programing, and like Z06 said, you'll need a good distance to achieve such speed, it has been done before, mind you....it was a CBR. http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...cord-by-woman/

You're looking at about 20-25 HP difference between that Fireblade and a 2003 R1.

[Flexxx]

Originally Posted by Mr. Phil

umm it shouldnt take that much work... ive hit 196 on my 03, and that was before the plus 2 sprocket... i would drop a few teeth in the rear and make sure he has a good jacket and helmet... and get a custom dyno tune not a generic map download

Uhhh look at what bike he rides. It's the flames edition guys! Of course it goes 196! That explains it all...

[Guate]

This is ''completely'' off topic, I thought it was pretty damn funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UdG...e_gdata_player

[KMac]

[Flexxx]

Originally Posted by Guate

This is ''completely'' off topic, I thought it was pretty damn funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UdG...e_gdata_player

Better... https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v...k&feature=fvwp

[Mad Matt]

Ok forgive my dumbness here but is this really that hard to achieve?? According to my spec my R1 fully stock will hit 185mph, is another 11mph that hard to gain??? Thats to hit 196mph....

[KMac]

Originally Posted by Mad Matt

Ok forgive my dumbness here but is this really that hard to achieve?? According to my spec my R1 fully stock will hit 185mph, is another 11mph that hard to gain??? Thats to hit 196mph....

at those speeds, the amount of HP required to overcome aerodynamic forces starts to skyrocket. Drag goes up at the square of velocity, and the propulsive force required will go up at the cube of velocity. Say it takes 150 HP to go 185mph, to go 200mph it would take (in theory) (200/185)^3 x 150 = 190 HP. I doubt very seriously anybody is going to find 40HP from an exhaust and a tune up.

[WOLFITZ]

ok well we are going to approach it like this i think...his motor has like 30,000 miles on it so we are going to look into a bore first followed by the full titanium exhaust, velocity stacks, a racing ecm, power commander(or something similar), a pocket GPS unit, a sprocket change, carbon fiber plastics and a lot of stickers...lol jk on the last part...but my question right now can i believe these wesites like yoshi and graves and m4 and what not on their HP gain claims??? They seem a bit pepped up...anyway i told him lets get all this stuff installed excluding the bore and see what our benchmark is at and go from there

[rexmitchell]

Originally Posted by KMac

at those speeds, the amount of HP required to overcome aerodynamic forces starts to skyrocket. Drag goes up at the square of velocity, and the propulsive force required will go up at the cube of velocity. Say it takes 150 HP to go 185mph, to go 200mph it would take (in theory) (200/185)^3 x 150 = 190 HP. I doubt very seriously anybody is going to find 40HP from an exhaust and a tune up.

PRM

[smalltrack]

Two words to get the job done........ Two Brothers.

[shhaker]

Originally Posted by Mr. Phil

umm it shouldnt take that much work... ive hit 196 on my 03, and that was before the plus 2 sprocket... i would drop a few teeth in the rear and make sure he has a good jacket and helmet... and get a custom dyno tune not a generic map download

unless you got the speed off a gps i wouldn't believe your speedo for one second. did you install a speedo healer?

[Flexxx]

Originally Posted by smalltrack

Two words to get the job done........ Two Brothers.

[KMac]

Originally Posted by WOLFITZ

ok well we are going to approach it like this i think...his motor has like 30,000 miles on it so we are going to look into a bore first followed by the full titanium exhaust, velocity stacks, a racing ecm, power commander(or something similar), a pocket GPS unit, a sprocket change, carbon fiber plastics and a lot of stickers...lol jk on the last part...but my question right now can i believe these wesites like yoshi and graves and m4 and what not on their HP gain claims??? They seem a bit pepped up...anyway i told him lets get all this stuff installed excluding the bore and see what our benchmark is at and go from there

When you do the bore, you should get head work done.... that will be the biggest thing in getting that thing to breathe. No point in taking the engine apart and doing these mods if you're going to skip the head.

Originally Posted by rexmitchell

PRM

I thought about that, but I don't think it was available until 2004-05. That would have done it, though.

[rexmitchell]

Originally Posted by KMac

When you do the bore, you should get head work done.... that will be the biggest thing in getting that thing to breathe. No point in taking the engine apart and doing these mods if you're going to skip the head.



I thought about that, but I don't think it was available until 2004-05. That would have done it, though.

I heard on the gixxer forum they were making a compatible helium filled loom harness that was supposed to work across all FI R1's.

[KMac]

Originally Posted by KMac

at those speeds, the amount of HP required to overcome aerodynamic forces starts to skyrocket. Drag goes up at the square of velocity, and the propulsive force required will go up at the cube of velocity. Say it takes 150 HP to go 185mph, to go 200mph it would take (in theory) (200/185)^3 x 150 = 190 HP. I doubt very seriously anybody is going to find 40HP from an exhaust and a tune up.

Also, if you can improve the overall aero of bike and rider, you won't need as much HP, which is probably a lot more expensive than aero, up to a point.

Using the same example above, say you improved your aero such that you can now go 188mph with 150HP. Now you only need (200/188)^3 x 150 = 180HP to get to 200mph.

[WOLFITZ]

Where is that formula from btw and fiexxx your avatar is amazing and I agree when a bore is done head work will be done to make sense for the bore... I'm doing the research and finding that graves dynos show te most improvement.